Survivors endurances are ridiculously frequent.
Last match I literally quit the game after hit 4 times survivors with endurance stats.
What is the meaning of basically being unable to down survivors when that is the only thing I can do in the game?
You are a killer? Nice! What´s you job? Hit suvivors! How do I do this if they are all invunerable with so many perks and 3 of 4 have this status right now? I don´t know...
BHVR created a problem again, and again survivors are abusing alot of this INVUNERABILITY of endurance.
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Because Endurance effect is the most simple way how to power up a perk.
Is the perk bad / want to make good new perk? Give it endurance somewhere.
Example: Buckle up, MFT, Off the Record, etc.
I think I don't want to see any more perks with Endurance. It's too offten for how powerfull shield effect can be.
What perks were they using?
Most endurance perks are associated with stopping killers from doing unfun things like tunneling or slugging. If you are making a lot of hits that cause endurance then it's possible that your playstyle is the problem and BHVR is trying to send you a subtle message.
The fact that you didn't even name a perk means the problem is your lack of game sense, not the perks.
The only dumb endurance combo currently is FTP/Buckle Up. The other ones have very obvious tells and counterplay associated with them.
I mean endurance doesn't take more than one hit with the 6.1.0 changes so your complaints are unfounded.
Yeah, I vividly remember that PRB were this things were changed and while the general killer buffs felt awesome, it was rediculous to work through 4 or 5 layers or Endurance :D OMG, it was rediculous.
For sure. I was only on that ptb for a couple days but by day 2 I was running alch ring to combat it.
This video is pretty representative of the situation OP is describing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f9dQIvqkQ0Another perspective is that the video shows him making the choice to try riskier gambits in pursuit of a 4K instead of settling for not killing all the survivors. He’s also probably not playing against players indicative of the general play styles and skill levels for a majority of the player base. 4Ks are the highest win condition for a killer, not the only win.
This is simply not true.
MFT - grants you endurance for just healing a teammate.
Styptic add-on - gives you endurance because you taped E with a medkit in hand.
Mettle - gives you perma endurance after tanking 2 protection hits for a teammate.
Then theres the "Anti-tunnel" perks behind used offensively or pure mis-use -
Basekit BT - Bodyblocking the killer when the killer was trying to get the rescuer.
Off the record - 80s of endurance that only goes away after you tap a gen, if after 60 seconds of being rescued you get found and hit again, its hard to make a "tunneling " claim to justify having such a long 3rd health state status.
FTP+Buckle up combo - Hard to make a slugging claim when the killer doesnt even have enough time to wipe his weapon before the survivor gets picked up with endurance.
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Only perks you're correct on are soul guard and WGLF.
That's the issue with Endurance: it makes being injured meaningless. Being injured used to be high risk (and semi-high reward, I guess, if you used Resilience) but now it's almost better than being healthy because you can do gens 9% faster and proc Adrenaline.
BS, survivors appear right in front of you to tank or get hits because they are invunerable. It´s not about get protection against tunnel (thing that I never do) it´s about use invulnerability agressively against the killer.
It´s funny how BHVR push killers to have to tunnel to win, because playing against 4 survivors will make generators fly too fast. Then if you really wanna win you go to remove a survivor quickly (wich is a thing particulary unfun to me - matches become quite boring against 3 or less survivors because they play very safe, and chases are not too often) but then BHVR give survivors alot of second changes punishing the killer role.
It´s a miserable state.
I ran into that the other day... I forget what killer, maybe Demogorgon.
But it was a flashlight/sabo squad with FTP / Buckle Up... And one other guy that I think might have been a random that did generators while I was dealing with the other 3. But you can't ignore the 3 or they do gens 3x as fast as the (potential) random...
I missed out on most of the broken combos because I play very infrequently so I have to say that that was one of the most annoying things I have experienced in this game as killer.
No man.. Otz is wrong... The main survivors here are all right, no endurance abusive uses by SWF´s... It´s all in your head.
Watching the devs use endurance to virtually child-proof the survivor experience has been weird and now it's just irritating. There's more super armor now than before the deadhard nerf.