Does Blight's Rush count as a M1?
I'm trying to come up with a build for my Blight, and I just unlocked Haunted Grounds. Then I started to wonder if Blight's Lethal Rush would put a Survivor in the dying state if the survivor is exposed.
So that's my question xd
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Nope it’s a special attack
It’s weird how Nurse and spirit are the only killers where there special attacks count as basic attacks
Well it kind of makes sense because spirit and nurse's power technically ends and you can't hit until after it's done.
That's actually not true for Nurse. Nurse and Blight's powers are actually similar.
Kinda baffling really that Nurse's M2 doesn't count as a special attack to be honest.
Same with Deathslinger. Despite putting people in deep wound, it counts as a normal attack, cause perks like NOED still work if you shoot someone and reel them in
I disagree, it makes perfect sense to me. Nurse's power is teleportation, after which she can turn her camera and lunge normally. Blight's lethal rush attack is functionally distinct from a normal lunge, as the hitbox is much wider (and I want to say a tad shorter?) than a normal lunge, and the angle of attack is restricted.
A good rule of thumb is, if an attack used during or after a killer's power isn't functionally identical to a regular lunge, then it's a special attack.
Which is why they're top tier. When your power aid you into M1, not a special attack.
Well the difference is though is that when you M2 with deathslinger you don’t down them instantly you have to real them in and then M1 so it counts as a basic attack cause you M1
Special Attacks are highlighted in the power description
Yeah I always thought nurse’s “lethal blink” should be a special attack like blight’s “lethal rush”. It kinda just makes sense
"after which she can turn her camera and lunge normally."
This is the best reasoning I've heard for why nurse gets an m1 but blight doesn't. That being said I don't think any perks should be limited by whether or not they're "basic attacks" except for a few exceptions like Save the Best for Last. I want to use haunted grounds on demo's lunge.
Oh yeah have nurse chase survivors to M1 them. What?
Its a special attack as the golden rule goes: If it can break a pallet or hit over a pallet, its a special attack.
Lethal rush can break pallets so it is a special attack.
I love how my post turned into an argument about Nurse, Spirit, and Blight's powers xd
Thanks, both of you!
Would changing spirit and nurse power attack to special be 2 big of a nerf, I think they need something but I don't want them to be ruined
I'm not sure about nurse but spirit gets a super lunge from her power.
I suppose you're right. As someone else pointed out, Blight's M2 can break pallets whereas Nurse's cannot. I forgot about that but it does kinda justify Nurse's not counting as a special attack. It is still kinda weird to me that the power that ignores all Survivor defences doesn't count as a special attack. I get why it's not a special attack. Still seems a bit unfair but oh well.
It definitely would reduce the variance in what perks they could use but they'd still be insane as it wouldn't actually change their kit much. Honestly, making their M2s count as special attacks isn't really the nerf they need. The fact that they can use perks which require basic attacks is only a problem because of how good Spirit and Nurse are.
I don't think it would nerf them too much personally especially not Nurse tbh. I don't really know how much of a difference it would make, things like NOED not working on their "power hits" would probably be the biggest thing.
It is pretty annoying how nurse and spirit are exempt from a mechanic that severely limits build options
Don't get me wrong a lot of it makes sense, but it does limit build options a lot, like legion lost a lot of potentially fun perks (I used to like third seal on them) I think the devs think the community is a bit stupid sometimes when there's this striving for consistency.
So many perks require basic attack activation that work decently on nurse. If it was changed then every nurse would run Ruin + Undying + Tinkerer because there wouldn't be a point to run anything else. As it stands, there are like 20 good perks for killer, maybe.
Those aren't special attacks. Those are normal attacks that occur immediately following their special ability. Blights special ability attack is always a lunge. As either nurse or spirit, you can perform either a lunge or a basic attack.
Although Legion can lunge or basic attack during a frenzy, it causes deep wounds, which means it's not a basic attack.
Wraith comes out of cloak and enjoys enhanced movement speed, but that is a lunge or a basic attack, not a special.
Onis big club is a special attack.
Trapper can attack trapper survivors, but that's not a special attack.
Get it?
I disagree with you, and the reason that I do is that the lunge for Nurse is modified by her power and her cool-down is affected by whether or not she attacks. If Nurse were a killer that came out recently her attack would be considered a special attack, she and spirit were both grandfathered into having them called basic attacks.
Yes i get that but Nurses Blinks are called lethal blinks she can teleport through walls and hit people and have a fatigue but it’s not special attack. While blight moves very quick has a attack called lethal rush and when he hits someone he goes into fatigue like nurse but it does not count as a basic attack which is weird