Is it legal that a TTV is showing my name?
I have a problem right now. A streamer played against me and started to insult me and showed my steam profile on stream while still insulting me.
Is this even legal to record me in some way and show my stuff without my consent?
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Yeah I think brings up a number of ethical concerns.
Sadly it's legal, he's a dick, but it legal since your steam profile it's public, if people start harass you, then that become illegal, but if nobody do so, it's not illegal.
Yes. It is legal. Steam is public, and so is Twitch. The terms of agreement very likely include something that basically says "people can look at your #########, sorry."
I mean I'm no lawyer but I know it's legal. If it wasn't, Twitch streamers would be sued all the time.
if your profile is set to public thats on you. There is no difference if 1, 10, or 100 people can see it if it's public.
This seems like the best response to OP.
If you want legal counsel, please speak to an attorney. We don't know which country you reside in, what its laws are, or anything else that's relevant to answering your question.
If he's shown your profile and got people to send you hate messages because of it then you can report them to twitch and they can be banned for witch hunting.
So if he beat a ttv then he deserved to be ridiculed by other? No one deserves to be ridiculed just for playing a game that involves losing to another player.
OP, do you fit into the listed protected characteristics? Twitch tends to be less lenient in those cases.
Literally the worst take possible.
Are you the streamer? Imagine condoning bully because you got beat at a fun party game.
Yes. Completely. It is an impossible subject to police.
Clearly there's ethical concerns in this situation, but sometimes people are just jerks. I would advise you to change your name if you haven't already.
Im not the streamer but im fine with this. If you play like totally unsport, you earn what you deserved . Its an indication of who to avoid in-game, thats pretty helpful sometimes for the few streamers im watching, and everybody is cool with that
Its not like he can show your IRL face , adress, phone and bank number to the world, its just a pseudonym between millions. Pass it
If you show your real name in your Steam description or in your Steam Name, you can report that and is 100% ban on Twitch.
I saw this twice with a spanish Streamer.
Aren't you also the person who made a new account so that you could play at Rank 20 and bully people?
Picking on new players is basically as unsporting as you can get.
Considering their post here, where they admit that they made a new account specifically to play with new players, I'd say they are just fine with bullying people.
Who talks about bullying ? Yup ive made a new account to play without campers/tunnelers red ranks tryhards, it never been of question of being toxic or whatever. Just playing ranks 20 again and maybe being better
Youre stand against "people shaming" but you share another thread out of context just because my point is different of yours and trying to make me evil. No logical
Illegal? I don't know, I'd talk to an attorney for that. I personally doubt it though.
A terribly irresponsible move that I'm sure Twitch and just about every other streaming platform doesn't consider cool for their users to do? Likely. There has been examples of streamers getting in some sort of trouble for not controlling their audience or at the very least making it clear they do not support certain behavior.
I don't know if something like Twitch's ToS would consider angrily showing someone's steam profile as directly encouraging harassment of the person in question, but it's an incredibly bad idea for any streamer to do.
Also what the hell are you people saying garbage like "you probably deserved it" smoking? OP said absolutely nothing about what they did (if anything), and no matter what this sorta behavior is something any streamer really gotta cut the hell out long before they get any sort of big following, if that ever happens. They might not want to do more than rant and call someone bad before moving on, but they can never know what kinds of complete edgelord clowns they might have lurking in their audience.
unfortunately the streamer is a in a gray area, all he did was go to your profile and insult you, unless the streamer said "flag this guy to get him banned" or "spam this guy" you would need to know the right people on twitch to get him banned.
These are the kind of asinine comments that just demonstrate your ignorance.
Public space.
You've had an account on the Forums since 2018, so you've likely been playing at least that long.
You are playing against new players, whilst you have been playing for multiple years. You know how the game works and are using that knowledge to get easy games, since Red Ranks are just too difficult for you.
Get a grip and stop blaming the victim of harassment.
It's actually really hard to answer the question of whether this is legal, since the whole business of streaming video games in the first place is kind of murky, and there are different laws in different places. I'm actually not sure if anyone knows whether it's legal to record someone's game play without their consent -- but I would be interested to hear the answer if there's a lawyer who does.
Whether or not it's illegal, it's a really mean thing to do. I think, as a best practice, streamers should block out the names of people they play against, if seeing the names could lead someone back to a real person.
I really hope this is a joke
What a great plot twist.
He probably deserved it
😂😂
Edit: form what i know its legal but if he showed your profil and told people to harras you or something you can send that part of his stream to support in that case they ban players for doing so it is called witch hunt
Legal? Yes, entirely. But...
Not at all. It's all very much private space, owned by Valve (Steam) and Amazon (Twitch). As such it's subject to their terms and conditions.
Now I'm not up to date with Twitch and therefore Amazon's ToS, but it would surprise me if harassment and defamation weren't in there somewhere. So you can report the streamer to Twitch and see if they'll act on it.
Legal, but he's a doofus. Witchhunting is a manchild move.
It is Illegal.
Rallying against person or a group in order to discriminate or harrass breaks ToS and law.
Grab the VOD and report it.
Legal? Yes, somewhat. But this is America, and if he is insulting you on his stream for content, you can sue him. :) If you want to try, be aware it will be costly unless you ultimately win. Even if you win it might be costly. We are in the Wild West phase of this brand new social media world, and lots of things haven't really been put to the test in the Courts. The first time someone commits suicide because of being streamed and abused online will, without a doubt, end up in court under Cyberbullying statutes. The Law is fluid, and whenever something is relatively new it changes back and forth for decades. I suggest, if you are serious about this, you find someone to work pro bono first and get proper legal advice. Remember, I'm just a nameless, faceless voice quacking on the internet.
In short, yes. If there is a country/jurisdiction in which recording you in a game at all is illegal, then likely Twitch would inaccessible. As for showing your profile, again, likely yes. Just like it's generally legal to post someone's home address (jurisdiction dependent). It's not considered private information and anyone can access your steam info unless (I think) you've privated it.
That said, just because something is within in the bounds of the law doesn't make it right or moral.
Your recourse would be to review both Twitch and Steam's use policy & terms of agreement (possibly DBD's as well) and see if what they recorded and said violates those terms. If so, then you'd report them through the channels indicated by those platforms with the information needed. Whether or not said companies will or can action is likely dependent on the situation.
It is legal.
All of the information is able to be accessed publicly. If the streamer was specifically telling his viewers to harrass and threaten OP, then that would be much different. Insults, however, are perfectly legal.
Unless, you want to to back and prosecute everyone who ever made a COD video and in said video, called someone else trash.
I am going to go ahead and close this thread before it starts getting out of hand. Please refer to the TOS of the platform(s) in question for this kind of behavior.