Keys, keys, keys and more keys. What's up with the chests?
So whether its playing survivor or killer keys are seeming to be found far more often now. I also check for perks or if they was brought in but nope, if found multiple and have had multiple found when playing killer... like why? Btw sabo toolboxes also seem to be very common and they're purple rarity
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Seriously is no one else noticed the amount of good items you get in chests? I cant even remember the last time I got a brown. So far it's been at least 30% purple keys in a match... iv been noticing this as both roles still since first posted, is this a bug or have the devs buffed it without saying?
Maybe they wanted to test how much keys affect the escape rate, when every match contains a key or two.
It should be even more common considering the amount of tunnelling and camping in the game
It's been happening in most of the matches now to the point that 3-gen is now useless. They escape regardless because of this bug. It rewards survivors (specially swf) for playing badly. I killed half of their team as Trickster (which was a struggle, because it's Trickster), they got 3-gen, weren't doing any gens, and Nea was hiding healing herself just to get in chase with me towards the hatch, where her friend, who was 100% on discord with her, was waiting for her with a key they found.
I understand that it's possible to find keys in chests. But not in every match. It got to a point that you have to tunnel to win. Now I always go to a match expecting at least one key and it's annoying.
It looks like a bug but it could be a shadow buff to keys so developers can get more data on how good they are.
It seems like the spawn rates of different rareity of items somehow got messed up. I have been looting chests like crazy, no plunders, just to add to my items each game, and I have gotten more purple and red items then yellow or brown, with almost no greens.
Glad I'm not the only one noticing it, what a stupid bug lol
I hate to be like this: Keys are so stupid. I (and many others) suggested many ideas to make them better, but I haven't seen any attempt or ideas on the developer's end on making them balanced.
I'm not talking about gutting them, I want a rework where their aura reading aspect is more impactful and the hatch requires a lengthy unlock time.
It sounds like I'm ranting, but when survivors can use an offering to guarantee where the hatch will spawn at and open it when they only did a few generators to spawn it in is ridiculous. Developer's had forever and even if they couldn't do a full rework, just add a temporary fix in the meantime like you did with the killer's equivalent: Mori. Yes, I feel like they could've been changed differently to be more dynamic and fair, instead of just boring.
Sorry, just had to let this out, I seen plenty of ideas to make keys and mori interesting (and balanced), but not a single comment from a developer or even a moderator who can potentially forward the idea.
You know how much it sucks that survivors can just skip the remaining generators and nullify your skill? The same is also with the mori, but at least they put a temporary fix on it until they can make it more interesting.
Okay, okay, rant done, this has been building up for years. I can only keep quite for so long. 😓
using keys is strategy. Same as camping and tunneling
I’m only really finding red maps
I don't think so...They have already years of "DaTa"
Best thing would have been to simply remove the hatch and start the EGC when there is only 1 survivor left. No slugging for 4k, no hiding from the killer while hoping that he finds the other survivor first (when there are only 2 left), etc.
It would be so easy to change the requirements of the EGC and adapt it. In exchange, they could increase the minimum amount of space between the gates and everyone would be happy.
When the mori nerf came, devs said that they are planning something for keys. But instead they introduced 2 hatch offerings. Which makes 0 sense, if their plan is to nerf keys. Because those offerings were a huge buff for keys. The only way to make them even stronger would have been making it secret offerings.
Keys create frustrating situations. For killers and for solo survivors, that get left behind. All in all it just looks like another SWF buff.
Imagine this scenario: You repaired 2 gens, working on the third, the killer still has to find anyone. Suddenly, the killer finds a box on the map, holds m1 at it for a few seconds, then, 3 survivors in your team get killed by the entity like in egc. Do you seriously think this should be very common considering the amount of gen rushing in the game?
Moris were and strategy and they decided to Nerf them because they were "Too Strong"
Same with the Keys, with the difference that they are not nerfed yet :)
Best thing would have been to simply remove the hatch and start the EGC when there is only 1 survivor left. No slugging for 4k, no hiding from the killer while hoping that he finds the other survivor first (when there are only 2 left), etc.
I believe this would work, BUT allow the hatch to spawn in once all generators have been completed (for achievement purposes, wouldn't be too bad)
However, if we do this, we'll have to change how the maps generate exit gate spawns.
It would be so easy to change the requirements of the EGC and adapt it. In exchange, they could increase the minimum amount of space between the gates and everyone would be happy.
I don't think that would work because killers could still find a spot to patrol both gates simultaneously and it would just make killers without mobility suffer even more.
Just copy the indoors maps by making a exit gate title, but on the same edge of the map. That way, you can adjust the gates easily while forcing the killer to at least patrol to win.
Tunnelling/camping = easy win
Keys = easy win
How are keys OP? They only have an impact once the killer has practically won, or the survivors have practically won.
Camping in 90% of games is an easy win, it works against solos all the time and most SWF are altruistic and don’t want to let a teammate do absolutely nothing.
Keys is the same, basically you don’t have to put much work in to get a win, but you still have to do most of the objectives unless the team are dead.
I don’t agree with either as both make the game ######### for someone else, but people always only seem to address one side
Look more killer main whining lol. I'm a killer main and keys don't bother me at all. I don't even camp and tunnel people with keys. Very rarely do they use the keys on me. And if they do, I FAILED.
I've seen more keys being used for easy escapes than ever before this week alone. It's absolutely appalling and makes the killer feel cheated, especially if there are still several survivors alive which makes this just even more unfair.
I've lost track of the amount of Dull Keys I've pulled out of a chest recently.
They could also buff the endgame perks accordingly. Wake up for example. Or hope.
People only use NOED and Adrenaline.
Facecamping is one thing, camping can still be done without being in the hooked survivors face and takes no work. As soon as you see someone going towards the unhook you just get an easy hit. They they either unhook where you can down both or he runs and you get a free hit. Hardly any work needed. Keys you need to do gens also, for 4 people to escape they gotta do all gens
No it’s not, you could call it proxy camping, but it’s not the same as tunnelling. It’s still camping it’s just not face camping.
Tunnelling you would go straight for the person who got unhooked, with proxy camping you trade but also get to tunnel after
How did we go from messed up chest items to camping and tunneling 🤣 is it possible to have a different discussion without either insults or mentioning camping, swf, tunneling etc. Lol
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2071102#Comment_2071102
Sorry for necroing, but was this bug ever acknowledged? Can't find anything.