Can we nerf swf already. Or at least voice chat software.
This is not from a killers standpoint but for both sides. swf isnt really the problem on it's own. Discord and console party chats is the problem that needs to be addressed. The devs need to take a stance on this and make it where you cant que in game or start a game in lobby while a third party voice chat is active. They need to give solos a ingame party chat if it was intended for survivors to have it. So at least survivors are nerfed fairly for all then nerfing all of them because of swf party chats.
If communication for survivors wasn't intended. then they need start adding into the game a blocker for party chats for console and have pc flag discord so they cant start lobbies or games while its active. Mainly because those are considered exploits that should be bannable. For anyone who doesn't understand. The act of using third party software to give yourself a unfair advantage that the developers didn't intend is a exploit. That frankly needs to be bannable.
But let's be real no dev will do this. They will hide. because they want to shill money from us as long as they can with shoddy design games they create. Why else do you see so many bugs that takes weeks or been a year and still not fixed. But I rather vent this frustration thenhold onto it.
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doesnt the cart take into account DC and suicides?? soooo that would mean that killers arent out performing.
You don't know that.
we do know that because 1st off a suicide would count towards the killer.
Did they explicitly say that?
yea in the link.
I see nothing there that says that.
Instead of 4 or 3 swf teammates, it should only be duos
u dont see it cuz u dont want to see it. but its there.
So what's your solution ban everyone who has a discord account or perhaps just force swf to only play customs. What you suggested was utter garbage because who cares "oh im so worried about a full ds squad" dont tunnel then. "Oh but what about unbreakable" dont slug. What you suggest would make over half the surrvivor players quit so stop crying and just play the game.
You actually won the game. You killed 3 people. One person escaped. If this was being rated the killer vs the team - they lost. Balance, according to BHVR, is 2 killed, 2 escaped. So by any measure, this is not a problem, just because you don't like it.
i didnt say anything about banning ANYBODY. sooooo quoting u u think only survivors should be happy??? im talking about it being fair, but u dont care about it being fair only that is fun and fair for ONLY survivors.
Obviously you think only killers should be happy. Who cares if people play with their freinds your problem is that they are oh so over powered but like other people said the amount of good swf is under 10 percent all the others are just trying to have fun. So im oh so sorry that you cant get what you want. So suck it up butter cup and if you cant deal with it then just quit Simple as that.
Show me evidence. Until then, stop making baseless claims.
Yeah punishing ppl for playing with friends isn't the way to go
So you think killers should be the only ones to be happy? What you suggested was complete and utter garbage and i pointed that out never did i say it had to only be fun for survivors you took it as that. What i did say was that over half the survivor base plays with freinds and by doing what you suggested would cut that number in half and what you suggested means that it should only be fair and fun to killets because you dont like swf having the same perks as each other is stuipid. Why shouldnt they be able to use perks that they recived? Give me a good awnser to this question cause honestly your suggestion is killer sided bs.
"If I can't have fun, nobody can."
So question. Who are you refering to?
If I tell you I have a brain, does that answer the question? :)
Perhaps it does. Ummmm i need to complain about something to uphold my toxicity as a survivir main as you know all survivors are toxic. FIX QUINTENS FACE ITS FUGLY.
NONO NOT SURVIVVIR MAIN FRIENDLY FIRE. WE ONLY COMPLAIN ABOUT KILLER STUFF
UMMMMMM KILLERS TOO FAST MAKE THEM AS SLOW AS A SLUG (is that better?)
yeyeyeye they catch up to my urban evading. too op
Obviously the most op thing ever cant belive devs made them so fast
I don't understand how having a party chat is "unfair advantage".
I play with friends a lot. Sure you can give each other a heads up. But in the way of "This killer is a camper and may be using insidious, don't come unhook me" or "I'm working on this generator at this location, want to get another" etc etc. Usually we just slag each other off 😂.
Even when we play non ranked against a friend, we still have chat open with who evers killer. It doesn't effect the game play, if anything it adds to the fun.
It's more the social aspect. And I'm sorry, but the second they get rid of chats they'll probably lose a lot of players as most like to socialise.
But wheres the cheating? Its not a cheat 😂. It's a chance to chat and socialise a bit is all. And sure you may talk about the killer, but it doesn't make a difference. With certain survivor perks on it doesn't matter what your mates feed you on voice chat, you'll already have the info you need. 😏 I mean, unless the killer is a camper. Happens a lot. They get annoyed when you message your mates and say "He's a camper with no skill, so I'll keep him here, go smash some gens". 😂 So I get why killers would complain at that maybe
swf shouldn't have been implemented in the first place unless killer also gets an advantage but it doesn't,only survivors do
+1 this idea as killer main. If they want use voice chat through phone at least they must have good phone and have charged battery and who wants to bother voice chat from phone. They basically use discord on PC and team-speak on console....
playing with friends isn't illegal. and no one wants to play solo because it's pure hell. this game is only worth if you play as killer or SWF.
you dont know if anyone would leave, and i doubt it also since DBD started without SwFs.
also u still havent gave me a good answer to my question, yet u want me to explain myself to u, the logic here.
"never did i say it had to only be fun for survivors you took it as that" well if u said "no-ones happy but killers" they implies survivors.
its right there.
Killers have a lot of advantages over individual survivors, and are getting more in the next patch. You're gonna be alright.
Dude were you even around fir the time before swf? People would lobby dodge until they got a match with their freinds and that eould cause wait times to be way longer than it needed to be and seriously you think that me saying that implies that only surrvivirs should be happy? So if using your logic why should killers be happy? Why shouldnt surrvivors be allowed to play with freinds? You have no goid awnsers to this because all you think about is the killer side being happy. I pointed out the flaws in your so called "fix" and you just cant take it. So next time maybe look at it from another point of veiw you self loathing peice of crap.
Imagine complaining in a teamplay that players start to play in a team, big brain.
ill answer ur questions bit by bit.
u didnt point out any flaw in my comments because u believe its ok for survivors to have an alrdy bigger advantage vs killer. in a 4v1 game where the 1 side (killer) should be stronger then a single survivor (the 4 side) its not. as updates have happened over time killers have gotten bigger nerfs then survivors which should be the case. i see people crying about survivor Q times and i wonder why are these people crying, they did it to themselves.
do i believe the devs messed up with nerfing some survivor perks like Iron Will??? yes, they need to change perks like them back and buff some killer perks like Monstrous Shrine.
I agree with buffing perks like monstorus shrine and bringing iron will back. However why shouldnt surrvivors be able to use whatever they earned just like killers. Sure people complain that craps overpowered and you are part if them complaining about how surrvivors shouldnt be able to use chat apps to talk to one another. Saying that they should remove any vc software would mean getting rid of steam or microsaft players and xbox players who have vc built into them. This is a game thaf people payed to play they are allowed to do whatever is in the game and what the devs have allowed. Heck the devs even said that they use vc while playing with each other and that their is nothing wrong with it.
why??
all im advocating for is fairness for both sides and SwFs isnt fair, and u cant argue that fact.
It better do something then nothing. Every SWF using coms blocked is small win for balance of this game.
If you are in an SWF group, all that needs to happen is your microphone is FORCED on for ingame chat, if you are a solo you get a push to talk function. Killers can hear you talking within X Meters (32 minimum, i personally think 40)
As i say, it is better to block 90% them, i can deal with others 10 % using mobile. Every blocked swf with coms is small win for game balance
. its a 4v1 gane where each side has to stratagize
.its implemented in the game just like noed wich is unfair to survs but its still there
.killers have a thing called "powers thats basicly 2 perks per one
All im advicating is that your idea is garbage and that its unfair to the survivor side to have that happen to them for wanting to play with freinds.
Holy dude, stop be so ignorant. How you can compare NOED whitch is in game for use and Coms?? Coms are not basic of game. Game is simply not balanced about people share information. Stop so blindly defend your swf easy mode.
Dude the devs use coms they have openly played with them they have never said that we arent allowed to use coms they said its not what they wanted in the base game but its still allowed so until its not allowed people will keep using them and you cant stop it no matter what you say
1 - I agree with you completely.
2 - People complain about NoED because they decided destroying totems wasn't important and payed the price for it. That's on survivors, not killers.
3 - Powers can either be useful anywhere, or in most cases easily countered by survivors or maps. So they can be the worst part of killers.
4 - Besides the fact calling someone's idea garbage is rude. I agree not being able to chat with friends while playing with them would be a BAD idea. The amount of people that would quit if SWF was removed would likely ruin the game. However, something does need to be done about how broken that system is and there's been many good suggestions about it.
BHVR needs to be extremely careful with how they handle it though, leading me to believe this is why they haven't touched it yet. We'll have to see how the new map changes factor in before we're likely to see changes to anything else.
You know,part of me almost wishes SWF was turned off for maybe two months. Just so I could see the complaints about the huge wait times and what would replace SWF as "TOTALLY UNFAIR, DEVS BIASED TO SURVIVORS, SURVIVORS OP, KILLERS NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE FUN", I'm pretty sure it'd be something spectacular, maybe it'll be lockers....