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Dude, you can't NEVER heal anyone who is being unhooked b/c it takes too damn long and the killer just comes back to tunnel that person out. NOW they made it even longer??? SMH. I'm so done with this game.
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I'm so glad my friends pretty much quit this game. I play like 5 matches per day and I'm done with this game, it's getting unreal with the nerfs, buffs, bs, just fix the game itself instead of nerfing things. Unreal.
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oh god......
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This game is getting boring as hell. Been playing less and less each day. Thank God I have other games I focus on instead of this crap.
I will give them props for the upcoming bloodweb fixes but come on, FIX THE DAMN GAME ITSELF.
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So ONE match and you wanna debff CoH? SMH.
If over 40% of your matches were THAT, I can understand but ONE match?
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You're a surv main? Sure..... LOL
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Right now, I'm playing with a NEW players who is so excited to play dbd. It's so sad when I have to explain to them why the killer is camping a hook or tunneling someone out.
This game has so much potential to be great and new players are so excited to play this game but when they find out the BS that comes along with this game, it's heartbreaking to see them get discouraged. lol
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Honestly, I can't blame killers for this. Well, I can but the developers know that the issue is becoming apparent and it's causing a lot of people to quit this game, play less or stop supporting it financially.
I have actually discouraged people who know I play this game from buying this game. I just can't support it anymore, sorry.
It's NOT fun anymore. Yes, I can give them that, it's FUN to play WITH FRIENDS. Like custom matches, hell yea, a lot of fun! I give them props for that. But, to play with random killers? It's a joke. It's over 40% of matches of tunneling/camping or when you play killers is being gen rushed with teabags. The other matches are either afk killers, survs doing nothing, farming killers/survivors/teabagging/bullying, etc.... Andddddddd I don't support gen rushing perks OR regression gen perks.
I LOVEEE the new survivors (I can't say anything about the killer b/c I'm a surv main but I hear she sucks). I love their unique personality and cultural background. I think they did an amazing job with that but their PERKS SUCK! It has no value to the game what-so-ever. The ONLY perk that seems viable is the only one where you get the burst sprint when someone is about to get hooked. It's not even worth remembering the name since that's not my playstyle. But, I hear some survs like it, fine. But bloodrush? Really? That just encourages MORE tunneling/camping. Killers ARE NOT STUPID. They know exactly how bloodrush works and continue to tunnel you out of the game being that the CD of bloodrush is long while because you're broken (where you can't heal) AND you have to be fully healed to use it. COME ONNNNNNNNN. Why bother? In solo queues, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. Nobody is healing you because survs in solo queue have no idea where you are AND killers just go back to the hook and tunnel you out. HEALING takes so long now after our healing has been nerfed that the killer has more than enough time to go back to the hook and tunnel you out.
I experience that so many times that I just give up.
This game is fun when killers actually hook you twice after some good chases, generators are still left to be done and everyone has enough of their chases with the killer. But being tunneled or camped at the beginning of the match with 5 GENS left???
REALLY??? REALLY??? OK.
I just play less of dbd or play custom matches with friends but no way I'm supporting, recommending, or spending money on this game. HA! never.
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Which is a shame because there are so many cosmetics I want to buy! But I refuse to buy them with real money. Screw that.
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And fun to me doesn't mean winning, I don't mind losing even if I had lost all 185 games. But to be tunneled/camped out of a game within minutes is insane to me and not fun. Every survivor should have their two hooks count towards something.
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Dude, are you serious? lmfao omg
Where do these people who camp and tunnel come up with these great ideas? lord have mercy.
A killer that wants to camp and tunnel is going to continue to camp and tunnel even if they're winning. That's something that is built in a person/it's how they play/it's their playstyle.
A skilled killer realizes that not all the games he's gonna play are gonna be wins. Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. You just get better at the game but resorting to tunneling just b/c is insane.
As a survivor main, I never care if I win or lose but being tunneled out or camped within the first hook IS NOT FUN.
You wanna advocate ending tunneling/camping? Stop doing it and advocate for positive changes in this game like getting rid of all regression/rushing gen perks. How about fixing the toxicity in this game? How about balancing the game out and not doing it with OP add-ons and perks?
If they really wanna get rid of tunneling/camping, they'll need to redo the whole idea of the game and how it's played.
We don't need more debuffs or buffs, what we need is a balance between survivors and killers, someway or somehow.
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Hell no it's not. Leave my d/c penalty alone, please! muahahahahahaha
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To solove the issue of tunneling/camping isn't in perks.
Over 70% of our perks already are useless and have no use in solo queue matches.
So if we make an anti-tunneling/camping perk, that won't stop killers from tunneling/camping. The issue will still exist. And why waste a total perk slot to bring that one perk that will stop the killer from tunneling/camping you? I find that a waste and boring gameplay.
The developers need to come up with a whole different strategy that will change the game itself.
A lot of people are either quitting or playing less and less b/c of it. It's unfortunate because this game is actually very fun if you play with friends or play against a killer who actually gets to hook everyone twice (without tunneling/camping) and is not being gen rushed either.
The game should be: Have each survivor hooked twice and 4 gens should be done by then. Leaving the match at 50/50 chance for both the killer/survivor. Then, the fun starts, who makes it alive, and who doesn't?
The game shouldn't be about actually getting all 4 survivors before gens pop or about popping gens in a rush. The whole fun and aspect of the game are being chased by the killer/interacting with the killer/interacting with other survivors, etc.
The whole game needs a rework.
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You can buff killers and make maps killer-sided, and they will still tunnel/camp. It's something within the game that can't be stopped unless the developers do something about it.
If you buff one side, you have to buff the other.
I say get rid of all gen rushing perks, and get rid of all regression perks.
I'm a survivor main, and even I think some killers need not a buff but a rework. I think they (developers) need to change the mechanics of how killers should be. You have many weak killers with OP add-ons. That makes NO SENSE to me whatever-so-ever. I don't even play killer b/c I find it boring as hell and because of the toxicity within the game. I'm totally okay with losing, got no problems with that.
You think survivor healing is too fast? Our heals have been nerfed over time, look at self-care for example, even healing each other without a med-kit or perks, it's been nerfed over the years, it takes longer now. It takes so long that killers go back to the unhooked survivor to tunnel them out. That's how close hooks are to each other and how close generators are as well (in some maps, not all).
This game is getting boring as hell, it's the same CRAP in every match. Getting tunneled out, camped on first hooked, killers going back to tunnel someone out (can't even heal anyone anymore in solo queues). Survivors not doing generators even with a new HUD buff we got, survivors letting people stay unhooked for being afraid of killers camping the hook. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Give me a break. Both sides need a rework. EVERYTHING needs a rework. It's a mess.
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Don't even bother coming up with ideas to fix tunneling/camping. That's something BHVR should be working on, they have the money and resources to do it. Why should we who already support them financially bother with this nonsense?
BHVR isn't going to do anything about it, they don't care. All BHVR cares about is $$$. As long as people are happy with cosmetics, they don't care about people actually being happy or disliking the game.
They make weak killers (with insane OP addons) to balance things out which it doesn't. Then, killers complain about survivors being OP, so the camp/tunnel to balance it out.
It's an endless monotonous tiring cycle which is why I find myself playing this game less and less each day, even my friends don't play this game as often anymore, it's boring with all the tunneling/camping.
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you're not missing much.
If you play survivor, you get hard tunneled or camped out of the game.
If you play killer, it's all gen rush, dead-hard, and t-bags.
Both sides are unfun to play at this point.
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Dude, you're not missing much. The game is getting boring as hell. It's the same old crap.
If you play survivor, you get hard tunneled or camped out of the game.
If you play killer, it's all gen rush, dead-hard, and t-bags.
Both sides are unfun to play at this point.
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buffed? HAHAHAHAHA
you're funny.
Just wait for the new survivor perks and all will be well! Who cares about some old crappy perk! We got a new chapter ahead of us! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Let's just forget about that Iron will perk! We'll just add them on to the list of all the crappy survivor perks we have! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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LMFAO
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You're going all wrong about it! Just camp/tunnel!
There, you're guaranteed at least two killers per match.
You're welcome.
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Anything is better than Autodidact, LOL. even a med-kit is better than that crap.
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You're overthinking it... just camp/tunnel... duhhhhhhhhh
that's what killers do anyway.
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Wait, you're not having FUN with dbd AND you don't find tunneling/camping fun???? SHOCKING!
This game is getting boring as hell. It's the same crap every other match with killers. Some, I can't blame, cause of toxic survivors, rushing generators due to perks, same old perks survivors be running... what other choice is there for killers? BLAH.
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I'm playing less and less every day. At first, I thought I was getting bored because I'm a solo survivor. So, I decided to join others and play with people online. But, I'm realizing the game isn't as fun as I thought it would be. Too many camping/tunneling killers, too many toxic players, I refuse to play killer since I find it boring and there are way too many toxic survivors, so there's that.
So I'm definitely playing less and really don't care about the game as much as I did when I first started.
I will be playing the new upcoming chapter but I doubt that will change anything with how the meta/camping/tunneling is currently. It just gets old and boring too quickly.
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I REFUSE to play that horrible 3 generator map.
I can't say what I do to resolve that issue when I get that map or else I'll get "banned" for saying it, LOL. But just assume the worst.
OH WELLLL.
i HATE that map.
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It's ridiculous how boring this game is getting from tunneling/camping killers.
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I'd love to see what other survs perks use, that would help out so much!
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I don't have any suggestions for tunneling or camping because I have no idea how to fix it but I just want to put my two cents in for BHVR to see that this is a big issue lol.
I'm a surv main. I have close to 600 hours of playing dbd, I'm fairly new...?
Solo queue has definitely gotten better but still, survs are mostly braindead, they won't do generators, they'll hide in corners, lockers, etc. And the person who did the least manages to always get the hatch (b/c they hid the whole entire game).
Tunneling/Slugging/Camping is a huge issue and it's the reason why I play less dbd now, it's getting boring and it's not fun anymore.
I wish there was a sort of balance where both survs and killers feel good about playing what they choose to play. There should be a level of balance for both sides.
I wish gen rushing and gen regression perks didn't exist.
Although I'm def looking forward to that new perk blood rush, that is only going to encourage even more tunneling/camping.
I've seen and played with a lot of SKILLED killers who don't camp/tunnel and I have so much respect for them. I hope that bhvr does something to change things up a bit.
Please concentrate on fixing the game like making maps balanced, better perks for solo surv who play alone, FUN and UNIQUE perks, and the whole tunneling/camping issue, please!
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree, I still experience and see others get tunneled on purpose so that the killer has the upper hand at the beginning of the match.
It's ridiculous in solo queue how they'll camp a hook or tunnel someone out to make it 3vs1 and gens are def not going to get done in solo queue.
Andddddddd, the killer is the only one who gets rewarded for that game style of play. Developers need to punish campers/tunnelers someway/somehow, especially for the first 3 mins of a match. I can understand a tunnel/camp during the end-game but at the start of the game? It's beyond NOT FUN.
I play less dbd because of it, it's not fun at all.
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Speaking only from someone who plays in solo queue.
Hardly anyone runs deadhard in solo queue. And most killers wait it out. I use to run it ALL THE TIME until I started learning how to loop the killer better and just use my environment to my advantage. There are so many other great perks better than deadhard IMO.
Why don't killers just wait out the deadhard? It's a useless perk.
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@RainehDaze said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/364160/pinheads-puzzle-box
The chains are spawned in waves of three. Dodge those three and you have enough time to solve the box and won't be interrupted.
There's nothing that needs fixing.
I've tried that so many times and it doesn't work!
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@WesCravenFan said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3319296#Comment_3319296
People like you are the reason the DC Penalty exists.
GOOD
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And who cares if you die on the first hook, camping/tunneling is encouraged and not something that is frowned upon anyway, so killers get those kill points/bloodpionts... /shrugs .. if anything, they should be thanking us.
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Don't get rid of #2, or else I won't be able to bail out on matches I hate lol :D
Solo survivor queue is a total mess & not fun 85% of the time, killing yourself on hook is the only way out of this mess of a game.
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I just kill myself on the first hook and move on to the next game to end the misery and boringness of it.
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Thank you for your insight as I am a solo survivor main. I don't do swfs, but I did in the past just for fun and even though we were swf/communicating, we still lost many matches; there are really some skilled killers out there who don't tunnel/camp so I give them a lot of respect.
I play as a solo survivor 99% of the time and I never teabag or wait by the exit gate just to waste the killer's time, I respect everyone's time and I expect the same.
As survivors especially those who play solo, we experience a lot of crap from killers like getting slugged, camped, and tunneled out within the first 3 mins of the game (just because they want to and make it miserable for survivors) and I tend to think that on both sides we take our frustration out on one another.
I'm part of some dbd forums/pages on FB, I've seen more toxicity from killers than survivors (that's just my observation) and they always post videos and pictures of leaving survivors to bleed out on the floor just for kicks or tunneling all 4 survivors just b/c they know how much we hate it. Those are the type of killers that BHVR needs to address because it's ruining the game for everyone.
It's not fun, at all... on both side.
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This is really awesome, I main David/Yui & didn't even know David was gay. I'm not much into the lore but I find it interesting that he is gay, I'm gay as well, haha.
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As a survivor main, keep tunneling/camping, that's how we got buffed in the first place.. hopefully, killers will continue to do it so we can get buffed again. BRAVO!
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Balance the game? Get rid of bloodlust and gen rushing perks. BOOM. done.
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Unfortunately, tunneling/camping isn't an issue I think BHVR will ever address again b/c it's too complicated. Too many killers already complain that it's survivor sided and since most of them don't have the actual skill to chase, they are just happy with how things are for them. But, a lot of my friends stopped playing dbd b/c it wasn't fun getting camped/tunneled in like 70% of matches in solo survivor queue.
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They should buff it but honestly, if they did, I wouldn't use it anymore. We have other perks that do the same thing and with added bonuses.
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Mannn, I'll take THAT situation OVER being face camped or tunneled. At least when you're 3 gen, you come out with a decent amount of bloodpoints unlike when you're tunnled out of the game within the first 3 mins of the game you leave with less than 5k bloodpoints.
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@CompleatBeet said:
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Honestly just delete Hag and Doctor please nobody would care.
I wanna d/c anytime I get a killer that can 1 shot you, it's super annoying & not fun.
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@MoNosEmpire said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3316232#Comment_3316232
See this is the issue.
There is ZERO differentiation between playstyles BECAUSE of tunnelling. That is one MAJOR reason why it needs nerfing.
How can you have a game with such a huge magnitude of perks but the EXACT SAME PLAYSTYLE seen in so many games? That is so damn boring.
THANK YOU! So many survivor perks and yet nobody ever uses them b/c YOU CAN'T USE THEM with the playstyle of how killers play which is tunneling/camping! They really should just get rid of perks that nobody uses and focus on ONE perk per survivor that can actually benefit someone from using it!
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@Crowman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3316224#Comment_3316224
No one is ruining your game experience by tunneling you out of a single match. You can move on and queue for the next game.
It's a PvP game and not everything your opponent does you are going to like. This is true for both sides.
The next game, meaning the next camping/tunneling killer? Sure. To then have a survivor kill themselves on hook to leave 3 survivors scrambling to not get hooked so no gens get done lol. Yea, fun.
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@Crowman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3316166#Comment_3316166
I'm not good at giving specific advice. I've put over 3.5K hours into the game. Play plenty of games on both sides, constantly switch up killers and survivor builds. I still make mistakes and I can still get frustrated with my teammates or map rng. I've also been taking breaks here and there to play other games, because the game can be frustrating and sometimes it's good to play something else for a bit before coming back.
Really the best thing you can do is play both sides to get a better understanding of the game from both sides. It's fine if you prefer to play one side, but a lot of people get locked into a bias and forget that dbd is a pvp game and pvp games don't always go the way you would like them to. If you are getting fed up, take a break. It's fine. Playing when you are you angry/frustrated isn't going to help you improve as you'll less likely focus on aspects you could have done better and focus on what everyone else is doing.
I agree and thank you for your advice... I just wanna say one thing though. I don't get frustrated seeing a few games here or there with camping/tunneling killers (that's the reality of it, I get that) BUT when it's about 60-70% of what I experience, it's frustrating and not fun. Especially when you're new, and you have all these perks you wanna level up and try and then find out you can't even use them b/c of the play style of killers. All these perks that survivors have are pointless and useless b/c killers won't allow you to utilize them. I have to resort to playing with decisive strike which I NEVER run because I don't find it a fun perk but I'm forced to play it if I want to minimize getting tunneled.
Maybe I do need to take a break and look at other games until BHVR decides to do something about it. I'd be happy to receive at least more bloodpoints for being camped/tunneled out of a game within the first 3 mins of the game LOL. SMH.
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@Stabby_Widdershins said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3316224#Comment_3316224
Heaven forbid the Killer plays as sweaty as the Survivors!
Survivors focus gens = Fine. Learn to get better pressuring gens, Killers!
Killers focus a Survivor = "They are ruining the game for someone!'.
News flash: The Killer wins by...killing people! By removing them from the game!
You don't get to decide HOW or WHEN the Killer can kill you just because being killed 'ruins the game!' for you. 🤦♂️
I don't play sweaty though lol lmfao that's how killers play BY TUNNELING/CAMPING.
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@MoNosEmpire said:
What should really happen is when a killer tunnels they should be matched up against SWF bully squad, since they LOVE to harass the same person, they should feel their own treatment.
They really should!
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@Crowman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3316159#Comment_3316159
You can't get better, because you are refusing to get better. DBD is 1v4 and the 4 players can be eliminated. As long as the team of 4 can individually be eliminated there is always going to be a strategy around getting one of them out quickly. You are simply going to have to learn to play against that. Whether it's avoiding being the first seen or getting better at wasting the killer time that they ignore you.
I had a game against an Oni and he would chase me for a minute then give up. He ended up killing the other 3 survivors, because he learned that I was too much effort to down.
You're right in a sense. Part of me refuses to get better not because I don't want to but b/c it's frustrating so yes, I totally agree with you and I will have to get better to avoid situations like that.
I'm hoping that BHVR continues to do something about camping/tunneling because it's not fun and it's not a strategy that should be used as well as gen rushing perks. I believe both should be eliminated somehow.
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@Crowman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3316142#Comment_3316142
If your teammates aren't doing gens and aren't trying to help you out while being chased, then you weren't going to win that game being tunneled or not. And if you are being tunneled out so much, you'll get better at getting chased just due to the nature of being chased so much.
Against teams of survivors who do gens and do take hits for each other, the killer cannot afford to spread out hooks to all 4 survivors. That is just asking for a 4 man escape in the same way survivors not doing gens is asking for the killer to 4K.
Camping/Tunneling are effective, but good survivors do know how to play around it. I've had a game where we get a 3 man escape against a face camping leatherface. I've had games where I was getting tunneled and still managed to escape because I was able to extend the chase long enough and had teammates take a hit here and there as they got gens done. Sometimes you just have bad luck with matchmaking and get teammates who don't really help out as much as they should. Which sucks, but that is an aspect you have to consider when queueing up for the survivor side. Unless you find a group of people to play with on a consistent basis, you are going to be at the mercy of matchmaking.
Thank you, I appreciate your input. So, what advice do you have then? I play as a solo survivor, and getting others to play with me is difficult because of other reasons and whatnot so I'm stuck at solo queuing, which sucks really bad.
This leads to my original point, when you have no option other than playing alone, you're forced to bring the same boring perks b/c of tunneling/camping which are decisive strike and other adrenaline perks which I don't use b/c I find them boring but what other choice do I have? I can't bring in a fun perk for the hell of it because I won't end up using it!