Yes, I'm complaining about Camping/Tunneling
First of all, let me start out by saying, yes, I have played as killer. No, I do not like playing killer which is why my rant will be about playing as survivor in SOLO QUEUE ONLY. Yes, I do feel like this game is survivor sided (at times lol) and yes, I have wanted killers to get buffed when I have played killer because survivors are toxic just as killers. Yes, I do feel entitled playing as survivor (at least I can admit it) and that’s because I honestly do not find playing as killer fun for me. I play dbd for FUN, not to make it out alive each match but to actually PLAY the game the way it was intended. Oh and yes, I’m semi-new to the game, I have watch dbd for years and have played recently.
The protection buff we get once we get off the hook is NOT ENOUGH in solo queue... Killers will literally camp the hook, chase you again, wait for the debuff to wear off and chase you down until they tunnel you out the game. This literally takes them less than 2 mintues to accomplish, EASILY. The frustrating part is that they’re doing that within the FIRST 3 MINS. of the game. I have literally been tunneled out within the first 3 mins and so have others.
When I’m in a match and this happens to someone else, the real fun begins, you have 3 survivors left that are supposed to complete 5 generators??? That is NOT happening! EVER! The remaining survivors are not doing gens out of fear of being the next one to be camped or hooked, this is what I’m noticing when I spectate a game after being tunneled/camped out the game. Survivors out of fear are crouching, hiding in lockers, or refusing to save the next person on hook because of the playstyle of the killer. And I can’t blame them.
And then, the killer who camps/tunnels end up getting 4k kills AND the most bloodpoints for playing so scummy! Now, I understand that tunneling/camping is NEEDED in CERTAIN situations like swfs OR when you have a good team and they want that 1 or 2 kills but for solo queue, it is NOT FUN! It's even encouraged among killers in dbd forums to camp/tunnel just for the FUN of it because they know how much survivors hate it. They get joy out of tunneling and camping which to me is psychotic. Who plays a game to bring misery to others just for the joy of it??
Killers say that for them, it’s not fun getting gen rushed. Get rid of gen rushing perks if killers are so worried about getting gen rushed! Nobody uses HYPERFOCUS (who the hell can continuously hit great skill checks in SOLO QUEUE???) Definitely not I and nobody is running that perk, NOBODY. I’ve seen it honestly ONCE in like all the hours I’ve been playing this game. Rarely do I see anyone using prove thyself, & if I end up bringing it into a match, guess what? The other 3 survivors are not helping me utilize it because they’re more interested in doing something else rather than doing gens.
Now with the new buffs killers are gonna get this month pertaining to how they are awarded with getting kills, it's going to continuously encourage camping & killing b/c it's going to be all about just getting those 4k kills instead of ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME! You know, chasing after survivors, hitting survivors, hooking them, hitting generators, going on to the next survivor to hook them, etc., etc... this game is becoming just about camp/tunnel survivors out of the game b/c killers know 3 vs 1 (5 gens to do) is NOT going to be completed by solo survivors.
Please increase the protection hit time (NOBODY RUNS BORROWED TIME - GIVE ME A BREAK!!!), increase our bloodpoints, decrease killer bloodpoints for camping or tunneling near hook survivors OR come up with something because you have survivors including me just killing themselves on hook to just move on to the next game because killers are the only one having fun & getting rewarded for playing like that.
I also notice that in solo queue, survivors are running “fun” perks or perks that will “help them” get through the match like sprint burst, deadhard, lithe, windows of opportunity, boil over, dance with me, distortion, boom perks especially circle of healing, adrenaline, and bond, etc. Nobody is using any other perks the majority of the time, please fix/change/update, do something with perks that nobody uses like, iron will (nobody uses it now), no mither, solo-survivor (yea, good luck not getting camped/tunneled to actually make it to the end of the match), up the ante (really? Come on…), wake up, autodidact (nobody runs it, it’s useless, you have better healing perks than this crap), all of Jane’s perks except head on which nobody uses in solo queue, all of Ashely’s perks, red herring (really? Who the hell came up with that idea of a perk??), blood pack, power struggle, appraisal, smash hit (smh, really??), self-preservation, rookie spirit, bite the bullet, quick gambit (nobody runs that in solo queue, survivors hear a faint terror radius and run like hell into lockers or the corner of the maps, etc.
1. To summarize my rant, please do something about tunneling/camping and I’m pertaining to the issue in solo queue! I don’t do swfs.
2. Do something about our perks, they need some drastic changes because they’re not being used because they’re useless or there are better perks that overshadow the perks that are not being used. Each perk should have some reason why we would want to use them. I always bring déjà vu, b/c it’s a perk that actually is beneficial and it serves a purpose. It lets me see the 3 closest generators in the map which helps the team not to get 3 gen at the end. Resilience is another great perk that I find myself wanting to be injured so I can benefit from the buff that it gives me and I’m okay with not making it out of the game alive if I was able to complete or help my teammates in some way or another with that increase buff. 80% of the perks survivors have, don’t serve a need or a purpose in solo queue such as red herring or sole survivor.
Ok – rant over. Now, I know I’m gonna get blasted for my opinion, and I do understand that it’s not easy playing killer either but it’s not fun being camped/tunneled leaving you with only two opinions, to d/c or kill oneself on hook to move on to the next game, leaving the rest of the team to be camped/tunneled out the game too. It’s beyond frustrating.
/sigh
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want to get rid of camping/ tunneling ? play better
there are a bunch of maps which are absolute for survivors
garden of pain, hadonfield, gideon
even i am killer main, playing as a survivor was able to distract the killer for 3+ minutes
during this time, survivors with hyperfocus will be able to repair 10 generators
(by the way, this is the reason why the killers camp, they physically cannot make 12 hooks in 3 minutes)
There is no solo queue, which is the root of most of DBD's problems. As long as SWFs and solo players are in the same queue, one player group has to pay the price.
already said maps where a person with no experience distracts michael with an endless stage of 3 minutes
Well, if the survivors don't make a generator, then it's clearly a problem for the survivors.
you can remove the killer, but if the survivors don't make their generators the game will never end
sorry that the killer can't sit down at the generator and fix it
If your teammates aren't doing gens and aren't trying to help you out while being chased, then you weren't going to win that game being tunneled or not. And if you are being tunneled out so much, you'll get better at getting chased just due to the nature of being chased so much.
Against teams of survivors who do gens and do take hits for each other, the killer cannot afford to spread out hooks to all 4 survivors. That is just asking for a 4 man escape in the same way survivors not doing gens is asking for the killer to 4K.
Camping/Tunneling are effective, but good survivors do know how to play around it. I've had a game where we get a 3 man escape against a face camping leatherface. I've had games where I was getting tunneled and still managed to escape because I was able to extend the chase long enough and had teammates take a hit here and there as they got gens done. Sometimes you just have bad luck with matchmaking and get teammates who don't really help out as much as they should. Which sucks, but that is an aspect you have to consider when queueing up for the survivor side. Unless you find a group of people to play with on a consistent basis, you are going to be at the mercy of matchmaking.
What does the map have too do with the behaviour of the killer tunnelling? stop trying to pinpoint an issue with another pointless thing.
The killer still tunnels and ruins the experience for 1 survivor while the other 3 leave, this is why killers get bullied.
LMFAO, if only!
You can't get better, because you are refusing to get better. DBD is 1v4 and the 4 players can be eliminated. As long as the team of 4 can individually be eliminated there is always going to be a strategy around getting one of them out quickly. You are simply going to have to learn to play against that. Whether it's avoiding being the first seen or getting better at wasting the killer time that they ignore you.
I had a game against an Oni and he would chase me for a minute then give up. He ended up killing the other 3 survivors, because he learned that I was too much effort to down.
Thank you, I appreciate your input. So, what advice do you have then? I play as a solo survivor, and getting others to play with me is difficult because of other reasons and whatnot so I'm stuck at solo queuing, which sucks really bad.
This leads to my original point, when you have no option other than playing alone, you're forced to bring the same boring perks b/c of tunneling/camping which are decisive strike and other adrenaline perks which I don't use b/c I find them boring but what other choice do I have? I can't bring in a fun perk for the hell of it because I won't end up using it!
You're right in a sense. Part of me refuses to get better not because I don't want to but b/c it's frustrating so yes, I totally agree with you and I will have to get better to avoid situations like that.
I'm hoping that BHVR continues to do something about camping/tunneling because it's not fun and it's not a strategy that should be used as well as gen rushing perks. I believe both should be eliminated somehow.
They really should!
I'm not good at giving specific advice. I've put over 3.5K hours into the game. Play plenty of games on both sides, constantly switch up killers and survivor builds. I still make mistakes and I can still get frustrated with my teammates or map rng. I've also been taking breaks here and there to play other games, because the game can be frustrating and sometimes it's good to play something else for a bit before coming back.
Really the best thing you can do is play both sides to get a better understanding of the game from both sides. It's fine if you prefer to play one side, but a lot of people get locked into a bias and forget that dbd is a pvp game and pvp games don't always go the way you would like them to. If you are getting fed up, take a break. It's fine. Playing when you are you angry/frustrated isn't going to help you improve as you'll less likely focus on aspects you could have done better and focus on what everyone else is doing.
what have you done to resist tunneling and camping?
always when I play survivor I take kindred and ds as a minimum, but you know what?
I never see Kindred from other survivors, maybe if you instead of taking 4 meta perks 1 time, take atnikamp perks and see what changes
You want someone to be punished because they did something you don't like. Juvenile. No one will take you seriously with this mindset.
No, I want someone to be punished for selectively choosing 1 person at the start of the game and RUINING their gaming experience but allowing the other 3 to live because of it, meaning 0 pips for the survivor, pips for the killer and pips for the other 3 survivors.
It's really not that hard to play this game without tunnelling.
No one is ruining your game experience by tunneling you out of a single match. You can move on and queue for the next game.
It's a PvP game and not everything your opponent does you are going to like. This is true for both sides.
Heaven forbid the Killer plays as sweaty as the Survivors!
Survivors focus gens = Fine. Learn to get better pressuring gens, Killers!
Killers focus a Survivor = "They are ruining the game for someone!'.
News flash: The Killer wins by...killing people! By removing them from the game!
You don't get to decide HOW or WHEN the Killer can kill you just because being killed 'ruins the game!' for you. 🤦♂️
I don't play sweaty though lol lmfao that's how killers play BY TUNNELING/CAMPING.
See this is the issue.
There is ZERO differentiation between playstyles BECAUSE of tunnelling. That is one MAJOR reason why it needs nerfing.
How can you have a game with such a huge magnitude of perks but the EXACT SAME PLAYSTYLE seen in so many games? That is so damn boring.
Sure, blame it all on tunneling.
And when Killers suddenly can't tunnel, and are forced into 12 hooks, and Survivors continue to genrush and 4K in under 5 minutes every match; what will be the next excuse?
You can tell the Killers that won't be here because they got sick of being insulted every time they lose because the game is massively unbalanced because one side threw a temper tantrum over dying in a PvP game where they can die.
Tunneling is fine.
If Survivors can focus down gens in under 5 minutes; Killers can focus down the weakest link. And if that shocks people in a bloody PvP game; then maybe they should stop playing PvP games.
Because it's 100% NOT FAIR to genrush while whining that your opponent does the equivalent, which is tunneling.
I agree and thank you for your advice... I just wanna say one thing though. I don't get frustrated seeing a few games here or there with camping/tunneling killers (that's the reality of it, I get that) BUT when it's about 60-70% of what I experience, it's frustrating and not fun. Especially when you're new, and you have all these perks you wanna level up and try and then find out you can't even use them b/c of the play style of killers. All these perks that survivors have are pointless and useless b/c killers won't allow you to utilize them. I have to resort to playing with decisive strike which I NEVER run because I don't find it a fun perk but I'm forced to play it if I want to minimize getting tunneled.
Maybe I do need to take a break and look at other games until BHVR decides to do something about it. I'd be happy to receive at least more bloodpoints for being camped/tunneled out of a game within the first 3 mins of the game LOL. SMH.
The next game, meaning the next camping/tunneling killer? Sure. To then have a survivor kill themselves on hook to leave 3 survivors scrambling to not get hooked so no gens get done lol. Yea, fun.
THANK YOU! So many survivor perks and yet nobody ever uses them b/c YOU CAN'T USE THEM with the playstyle of how killers play which is tunneling/camping! They really should just get rid of perks that nobody uses and focus on ONE perk per survivor that can actually benefit someone from using it!
Feedback regarding the game is always appreciated; whether from new players or veteran players, constructive points of view allow things to be seen from different angles. That being said though, because of comments from those commenting here biting at one another, including the OP, I am going to lock this here.
As it has been stated, Tunneling and Camping are not reportable offenses (as noted here in the Game Rules). I do understand the frustration with these myself, and why its a largeand heated topic with the community, but please remember to keep all discussions here on the Forum civil and respectful with fellow players & Forum members alike; including how someone decides to play (within the Game Rules, of course!).
And please, a small reminder to not open multiple threads on the same subject within a small span of time.