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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276638#Comment_2276638
That is exactly what this forum does to survivor mains. Our opinions are referred to as “bait”, we are called “trolls” or a “sluzzy” (who, by the way, is a survivor main who is constantly mocked by this forum). It is indicative of entitlement by a killer-dominated forum, and a refusal to hear the truth on their part. They will not acknowledge the overwhelming advantage that they have in this game, through a myriad of cheap tactics, busted perks, and broken add-ons. I can hardly believe my eyes when I read the feedback and suggestions that many of them offer. The survivor playerbase is hanging on by a lifeline, STILL they want every survivor perk and item nerfed. Unacceptable.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276793#Comment_2276793
Camping/Tunneling/Slugging are poor sportsmanship. When the killers have such an incredible advantage in this game, what need do they have for such nasty tactics? They are carried by their perks, crutching on broken map offerings and busted, outdated mechanics such as bloodlust. It is fully within their power to play fair, if they choose not to do so, that is VERY unsportsmanlike.
I agree with you 100%.
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Just hit them.
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I feel you man, cried yesterday after getting tunneled 3 games in a row.
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@Gwinty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276334#Comment_2276334
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276326#Comment_2276326
You call the optimal tactic in the game (at some points) bad and tell the Killer to play to your rules. On what ground? You want pity and compassion just because of...well what?
It is clearly statet that non of these is a offense that is bannable. BHVR has made that clear as daylight.
Sure the survivor can be mad about this. But that does not mean it is unsportsmanlike or an offense at all. Also it is not cheating do not even suggest that. The Killer is playing to his objective which is to get sacrifices. What you call a "fair match" here is asking the Killer to be the NPC in this game.
You seem to misunderstand that even thou a tactic is not "nice" it is not unsportsmanlike. Just because a tactic is not "fun for you" it is not bannable and just because you can not play what you lable a "fair game" does not mean the action was "unfair". The rules of this game are made by BHVR and not by the survivor rulebook.
Is it "unsportsmanlike" to gank the same person over and over again in League of Legends? Is it "unsportsmanlike" to focus the healer/support first? Is it unsportsmanlike to stall for time or provoke an offside in soccer? I do not think so. Sure this is boring an the players on the receiving end have less fun. But it is in the game and it is not against the rules.
If you want this gone then you should appeal for change the rules with clear reasoning. Not try to punish things that are not against the rules just because you do not like them.
Everyone should have fun, not just the killer and not just the survivor. You need to think about other people. Some killers are just so selfish and tunnel every chance they get. These are the people who ruin the game. There are other people behind the screen and you never know what they are going through.
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@burt0r said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276326#Comment_2276326
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276334#Comment_2276334
Damn, sorry but at this point you two don't seems like simple sluzzy fans anymore but like people that also believe earth is flat and a tinfoil hat helps you.
So you are insulting us because you don’t agree with us?
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276520#Comment_2276520
Is it fun trolling a Forum?
Why are you so aggressive?
I’m not trolling. How am I aggressive? I’m a kind person.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276505#Comment_2276505
Because winning is generally more fun than losing?
Yeah it is. Is it also fun to make the game ######### for anyone else unlucky enough to get into a game with you?
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276480#Comment_2276480
Because I play for fun?
Then why do you care so much about winning?
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276417#Comment_2276417
Because I don't care/pay attention?
#########, you are playing a game without paying attention to it? 😂
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276403#Comment_2276403
I have no idea whether or not I tunneled.
I double pip'd and got 36K points
How do you not know if you are tunneling?
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276326#Comment_2276326
I literally had zero penalty to Chaser.
Tunneling?
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@[Deleted User] said:
That 12 year old Nephew shouldn't play this game smh
I don't get people like this, do they forget that they are talking to a real person? :(
Don’t campers forget they are playing agaisnt a real person? They have every right to be mad. Autoban will finally fix this game.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276261#Comment_2276261
Killers don't want survivors to have anything in this game. This game is absolutely busted, catering to killers in every way imaginable. Killer mains won't be satisfied until every so-called "second chance perk" is nerfed into nothingness, we can no longer bring in items of any kind, and regression perks such as Ruin are built into the game. They screech about how keys are overpowered, but disregard how broken their perks are, the busted add-ons they crutch on, the arsenal of killer-sided maps at their disposal. They won't be satisfied until the survivor playerbase is oppressed into oblivion. It's shocking and disturbing.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276194#Comment_2276194
I NEVER see a key on my team unless I switch to one last second. Killers have deluded themselves into believing that keys are an epidemic, in reality they are almost nonexistent.
I agree with you. The fact that tunneling and camping is still a thing shows how killer-sided this game is.
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Getting hardcore tunneled by a rank 1 nurse, and once by a stridor spirit.
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@FrndlyChnswSalzmn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276226#Comment_2276226
Okay.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276216#Comment_2276216
Disconnecting explicitly is cheating, actually. Better solution: Make keys reasonable. They're way too good right now.
It’s like survivors are not aloud to have anything good in this game. They already nerfed Decisive strike and Object of obsession. Keys are perfectly fine as they are.
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@FrndlyChnswSalzmn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276201#Comment_2276201
And that is cheating. I won't cheat; I have self-respect.
Don’t complain about keys then. And self respect? You are not doing anything illegal. If you don’t like keys no one will stop you from leaving. And it’s not cheating.
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@FrndlyChnswSalzmn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276169#Comment_2276169
Unless they switch at 9 seconds. Which they always do.
If you close your game while in the loading screen, you won’t lose your offerings, addons or anything so you can do that too, and you won’t get a penalty.
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@FrndlyChnswSalzmn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276144#Comment_2276144
And a Killer has to two-hook a survivor to mori them. But let's look at direct key counters.
PERKS
Franklin's Demise - Does nothing now.
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Oh hey, there's nothing else at all.
You can leave the lobby if someone has a key.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276120#Comment_2276120
Guess BW and NOED don't exist?
And if I hold a 3 gen, 3 people can get out even if I was going to win otherwise.
Even if only two people get out, it's still at least one person who shouldn't have escaped.
Keys need to go and anyone who says otherwise is ignorant
So tunneling and camping isn’t enough for you? Guess we have to nerf anything that ruin your chances of getting a win because you can’t dodge a lobby with a key.
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@FrndlyChnswSalzmn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276120#Comment_2276120
Oh really?
The Hatch becomes visible after the following condition is met: Number of completed Generators = Number of alive Survivors + 1
More specifically:
- 4 Survivors alive: 5 Generators completed, Exit Gates are powered
- 3 Survivors alive: 4 Generators completed, 1 Generator left
- 2 Survivors alive: 3 Generators completed, 2 Generators left
The exception to this is when there is only 1 Survivor left alive anymore, in which case the Hatch will immediately become visible and open automatically, regardless of how many Generators have been completed.
As soon as the Hatch is visible, it can be opened manually using Keys, as well as be revealed by Aura-reading abilities..
Yes! And survivors have to do GENS to get that to happen. It’s not like they are just hiding in a locker for 5 minutes waiting for the hatch to spawn to escape with a key. They have to do their objective.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2276047#Comment_2276047
Yes, you can.
Both are unfun and unfair mechanics that prematurely end matches, even when one side is clearly outmatched.
How do keys prematurely end matches? You know you still have to repair all generators for everyone to escape with a key, right? And if all generators are repaired you have lost, even if the survivors have a key or not.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2275197#Comment_2275197
They already nerfed mori's!
You can’t compare keys and moris
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@FrndlyChnswSalzmn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2272563#Comment_2272563
Nope. Rank 1, buddy. Have been constantly for years. But since you'd rather insult me than hear the truth, you do you.
What truth? That you would rather camp than actually play the game?
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@FrndlyChnswSalzmn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2272371#Comment_2272371
Math.
1 Hooked, 1 circling the hook = 50% of all survivors off gens. if a second survivor comes to lurk for the save, 75% of the survivors are not doing objective and one of the three is dying. If you do this while one is already dead, that's 0 gen progress and you win.
That's why it's stupid. Simple math.
I guess you are rank 20 then, In the red ranks if the killer is camping they will just do gens and escape.
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Most of them are damn stupid. I know if I see a key I will leave that lobby. No need to go into the game and tunnel and be a #########.
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@TeabaggingGhostface said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2271687#Comment_2271687
Still more balanced than spirit
Not really. Bubba is just instadown after instadown. If spirit is playing without strider it’s just a guessing game for both. And if the spirit is bad the survivor will most likely win.
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@FrndlyChnswSalzmn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2271628#Comment_2271628
Don't do this. This is stupid.
How is it stupid? Instead of camping you can find people doing gens.
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Lerys, hawkins and the swamp.
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I think he needs a nerf, I honestly don’t know why he has his braindead instadown thing.
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Let him unhook, go for the unhooker. It’s really not hard.
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i was thinking this:
you start the trial healthy.
When the killer hits you, you receive the broken status effect. The killer can’t see that you are broken.
grunts of pain are reduced by 100%.
you can recover from the dying state at all times.
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Trickster and clown are not weak killers, tinkerer needs a nerf and bubba is op.
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How are people supposed to have fun when they are playing against a wraith?
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It needs to get removed, if enough people dc when a killer is camping you know it’s a problem.
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@EngineerDispenser said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2261694#Comment_2261694
Again, bite the bullet and move on. I know killers who love to slug, tunnel, and facecamp indiscriminately, but no amount of whining or reporting will change their play style. They're welcomed to play that way, along with the survivors who want to send killers to Haddonfield with Keys and BNPs. At the end of the day, Dead by Daylight is a video game and we are here to fool around in a video game. Not trying to ruin each other's experience by trying to ban the other individual.
I guess if they got banned for ruining the game they will eventually stop. They can do whatever they want but nobody will be kind to people like this.
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@EngineerDispenser said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2261658#Comment_2261658
People are welcomed to play whatever they want, as long it doesn't violate the rules. I may not like Iridescent Head Huntress when I go against it as a survivor, but I bite the bullet, play it, and move on. I know a lot of survivors still disconnect and get salty over the current Iridescent Head addon, despite being the weakest point its ever been. Hence, you can't make everyone happy in this game.
Exactly, but you know that no one likes to play against basement bubba. You can play him if you want but you shouldn’t expect anyone to be nice to you after you ruined their game.
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You are playing basement bubba, did you expect them to be happy?
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@Sabraiz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2259012#Comment_2259012
But apparently braindead survivors should have free escape? That's a weird double standard.
When did I say that? A braindead survivor will die if a wraith uncloaks next to them even without the insane lunge.
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@Sabraiz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2258982#Comment_2258982
Simple solution to not get hit through pallets? Don't be greedy against a wraith that is uncloaking.Also why should you be guaranteed to get away if he uncloaks next to you?
Because a braindead wraith shouldn’t be able to hit me, cloak and then get the easiest hit. He required skill before but now he doesn’t.
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@Gwinty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2258664#Comment_2258664
But a regular Wraith that makes some mistakes will also not automaticly win against a decent lobby. If people just let Wraith uncloak on their back without reacting, if they just wait for him to bing his bong while they continue that generator as they could with old Wraith, then they deserve to get hit. Ignoring the Killer should get you punished.
If we are not to assume a lobby is 4 decent survivors with a discord, then we should not assume that every Wraith is Otz, Scott or whoever that has more than 6.000 hours of playtime too. Otherwise this would be double standart.
A beginner friendly character can be S-Tier too. This depends on skill floor and skill ceiling.
And in the end Wraith is just an M1 killer who has a fast lunge after a decent indicator that he is now going to lunge. Wraith literaly rings a bell to tell you "Hey buddy, here comes my lunging attack!". So there is enough counterplay to him in that regard.
We could talk about some of his addons. But overall he is now finaly a fun to play as and against Killer and not "Oh, its Wraith. I guess we get an easy win.".
I don’t know who told you that wraith is fun to play against but you have been lied to. The thing is that with his fast lunge he is 100% more likely to hit through a pallet, you can’t mindgame him because he will either bodyblock the pallet or window and then you are screwed. You are just standing there and can’t do anything, no idea to run away because you barely get distance anymore.
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No killer against a decent swf will win, this is the shittiest argument I have heard. His uncloaking lunge needs to go and his collision when cloaked also needs to go so he can’t body lock windows. This killer is supposed to be beginner friendly, not S tier
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There is no way of buffing his current power without making him trash to play against. He needs a whole rework.
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@ImTooooomingggggg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2255878#Comment_2255878
NOED feels like a catch out gimmick without something like BloodWarden to back it up. I had a mori mission in this case, but I used the guy I mori'd as bait, unlucky for the helper they popped last gen as I was about to hit him. I just give enough space to make people wanna try but not enough to get away. I'm admittedly newish to the game so lack any slow down perks other than Corrupt(not unlocked on Myers yet) that recently showed up in shrine. Still farming cannibal to 35 for bbq atm. I guess since im semi new and lack a lot of meta perks which makes tunneling slightly more of a pay off than higher rank games. Though it feels like tunneling and hanging in the area of hooks with gens has its place to slow momentum as they will usually split one off to help the guy slowing progress.
Yeah I understand that, I know it’s the best thing to do and honestly the only thing you can do is wait until you get the perks you need. I still don’t think tunneling is that good for anyone. Maybe you enjoy it but there are other ways to apply pressure. Tunneling and camping is the cheapest
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@ImTooooomingggggg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2254509#Comment_2254509
Cant agree with that. Tunneling is a tactic for many things. Sure it can be from pure dislike for someone but generally its because options are getting thin. If im getting Sweat with friends gen rushed as a non mobile m1 killer I will probably tunnel and start playing around the hook. My last game as Myers had 2 gens popped within minutes of the game starting. I force tunneled one off gens and hooked a mile out. Then defended closest gens to them. This slowed the match and let me regain some control. Admittedly it didn't go as planned and ended up mori on the first guy and 2 NOED hooks but what are ya gonna do.
Yeah, but why tunnel if you have noed? I understand in the egc but you might want to try some slowdown perks.
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@Tsulan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2255827#Comment_2255827
Good, we need more killers like you, to lower the survivor queues.
Have you considered playing more killer? Since you said, that you play killer almost every day.
Depends on what I want to play, I’m trying to play both killer and survivor evenly. Still don’t think me playing killer would make a change to survivor queues.
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@Tsulan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2255818#Comment_2255818
You complained that you couldn't play the game you payed for, because someone is standing in front of the hook.
The point is, that you could simply switch the role and mark the difference. Play how you would like the other killers to play.
That’s what I already do, I never camp/tunnel even if I’m losing. No one to blame except myself if I can’t apply enough pressure even with all the slowdown perks that exist. No need to ruin the game for someone else
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@Tsulan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2255743#Comment_2255743
Then switch to killer and don't stand in front of the hook.
Problem solved
I play killer almost every day, don’t know what your point is
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@BuddhaBing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2255706#Comment_2255706
I tend to avoid it. It only works against bad teams. I guess that's why you get so bothered by it.
Ofc I get bothered, I paid for this game just so I can’t play it because someone wants to stand in front of my hook. Do you expect me to happy about it?
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@Crowman said:
Because you were unable to lose the killer or force the killer into long chases to buy your teammates time to do gens. You didn't do gens yourself. You didn't save your teammates or healed them.
You didn't do anything that gets you rewarded, so why should you not depip?
Because he got tunneled my guy. He can’t do anything if the killer is on him all the time.
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@BuddhaBing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2254519#Comment_2254519
If you're good, I'm sure you realize this game is 1v4, not 1v1. So questions about how do YOU play around a facecamping bubba are pointless. You should be asking how your TEAM can play around him, which is by doing gens.
Yes, which results in a depip for everyone. Seems like you like to camp since you are defending it so much…