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  • @PinkEricka said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    PC

    @SenzuDuck I actually saw you streaming a few nights ago! I saw your name in the category section for dbd! I didn’t know you streamed! I don’t really participate in the Twitch community as much as I would want to but I’ll make sure to go back and give you a follow :) ❤️

    Ahh thats very nice of you!

    I usually start with 2/3 hours of killer and then start swapping between Survivor/Killer.

    It would be nice to see you pop up, maybe get involved.

    I always say that if you just play this game you meet the most toxic of this community, if you go to twitch and get involved with a community (obviously doesn't have to be mine) you can meet a lot of really friendly & chill people.

  • @Master said:
    Look at it from the killers perspective.
    If someone in the team is an ass to me, then I dont give a damn and will pay back to the team. Doesnt matter who the unlucky guy is (even if I try to punish the proper one too at least)

    Oh, if you are tired of camping, may I suggest playing killer yourself? I know its tough one, but maybe you give it a try

    Yea, let's pretend killers only camp if a survivor is being an ass.

    also, what's to say this person doesn't play killer? Are you not allowed to have issues with killer/survivor and if you have an issue with one side you automatically only play that side?

  • Devs said that after a while tinkerer just started to break killers with certain addons so it was changed. It wasn’t laziness.

    theyve stated they are interested in looking at all killer addons and changing them around the time they spoke about tinkerers change. Last ones they touched up were wraiths, I’m sure Freddy is next etc.
  • @Dead_by_David said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Dead_by_David said:

    The real insult here is putting pineapple on a pizza, this makes me ill!

    Pineapple is great on pizza, it's those animals who have fish on pizza that are the problem.

    SenzuDuck said:

    @Dead_by_David said:

    The real insult here is putting pineapple on a pizza, this makes me ill!

    Pineapple is great on pizza, it's those animals who have fish on pizza that are the problem.

    My favourite is escargot though :p

    I can't handle you man I gotta go lmao

  • @Dead_by_David said:
    The real insult here is putting pineapple on a pizza, this makes me ill!

    Pineapple is great on pizza, it's those animals who have fish on pizza that are the problem.

  • @Tsulan said:
    You honor me to much.
    I just thought,  that since everytime you lose an argument against me, you come up with the hatch discussion which happend months ago and which I had on a early morning train without coffee. The discussion wasn't even with you, but with 2 very nice mods.

    So now I said [BAD WORD] it, why not take a look on who is constantly harassing me and look what's behind his behavior.

    Not even in my wildest dreams I could have expected THIS! 

    I'm sorry if you feel personally attacked. Not my intention. 
    Want something to eat? Can I order you a pineapple pizza?

    I'm not embarrassed about the food panel, lmao.

    Like I said, people actually enjoy watching me, and I've had plenty of people ask if I've eaten today or had enough to drink considering my sometimes 12+ hours.

    So heck yea I have a way for people to support me, it's no different from a donation panel or an amazon wishlist panel (I have both by the way).

    But some people like to see where their money goes and those things allows it. Some people get a donation and order a take away with it, there's no difference except the person gets to choose my food instead.

    For some reason you think these panels are drastically different..

    LOL.

    By the way, go back and look at that screenshot, don't forget it's impossible to get four kills once hatch is available.

    Imagine actually earning four kills because you know it's possible and not come here to cry about the three man matches

  • @Tsulan said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    In this thread.

    Killers who think the fourth survivor should just die because they killed three survivors lmao.

    and i know it's hard for you guys to understand this but they haven't failed their objective, their objective gets changed due to the circumstances. CRAZY RIGHT?!

    I've definitely seen these guys say they don't think they're entitled to a 4K, as well.

    Killer has to find, chase, down and hook 3 survivors in 80 seconds in order to avoid the hatch.
    Yeah, sounds fair...

    Oh yea dude, totally. After 2 gens are done hatch is guaranteed for the fourth survivor.

  • @Tsulan said:
    Sure you can self save.
    Deliverance and Unbreakable both do this.

    Ts ts ts 

    Yea lemme just deliverance on my second hook, or better yet use unbreakable on the hook, that seems reasonable. I know it takes you months and months of learning to figure out mechanics so I'll make it easy. that's not how those perks work.

    Lets not forget you didn't even know how hatch works up until 4 weeks ago and now you're the born again hatch expert.

    this whole conversation is akin to 4 survivors getting 4 gens done without dying and saying "Well the 5th gen should just complete itself because we've outplayed the killer"

  • @Cymer said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    In this thread.

    Killers who think the fourth survivor should just die because they killed three survivors lmao.

    I've definitely seen these guys say they don't think they're entitled to a 4K, as well.

    What would you say if you play perfectly outplayed the survivors by protecting the correct gens and pushing the survivors in a strategic beneficial situation and all your work and effort goes down the drain because of a hatch mechanic.

    Even from a survivor point of view you can argue, you did everything for your team, bodyblocked, unhooked, genjockey but at the end the other player just lets you die so he can get the hatch and did nothing the entire game.

    It's not only on the killer side.
    Wake up!

    What does this have to do with this conversation? You can't self save so you rely on other people, some do wait out hatch and I usually let my self die if there's a possibility a random can get hatch.

    A killer didn't play the game perfectly, they killed THREE survivors, im sure you've played this game enough to notice that there are in fact FOUR survivors so lets not pretend you deserve that fourth kill because you killed 3 others.

  • In this thread.

    Killers who think the fourth survivor should just die because they killed three survivors lmao.

    and i know it's hard for you guys to understand this but they haven't failed their objective, their objective gets changed due to the circumstances. CRAZY RIGHT?!

    I've definitely seen these guys say they don't think they're entitled to a 4K, as well.

  • @RSB said:
    Could you be more biased, please? Because there MAY be one, or 2 people who still takes you seriously on this forum, thanks.

    I feel entitled to my 4k, when i wreck bunch of survivors, but one still gets a free win.

    You've wrecked 3 survivors, not 4. You want the fourth one, earn it, slug, run perks to find them.

    Where is a free one kill for the killers, huh? If survivors can have one free escape, because "oh, the game must feel harder for the winning side at the end of the match", then why killers can't have a "go to the X spot and instantly kill random survivor, even if he did all gens by himself and literally deserves this escape"?

    The three tasks a survivor has is
    1. Do Gens
    2. Escape

    And 3, the most important one SURVIVE. So if a survivor has SURVIVED long enough for the hatch to be readily available, is it really a "free" escape? Seems to me like they've

    A. Participated in gen completion by either working on them or distracting the killer.
    And
    B. Survived enough for the hatch.

    So while you like to label it as free it really isn't.

    All in all, 4th kills really don't matter unless you've not hooked that person for the fourth stack on BBQ and that's the only time I'll really go ham and slug end game so I can get it.

  • I really don't mind the D-Strike that I know about - I can work around that.

    it's the 33% ones that you waste so much time on, that being said they are few and far between but I do think it warrants being looked at by the devs.

  • I've had it happen where ping is perfect up until we join the in the match and then there's rubber banding to all hell, it's very frustrating.

  • Yea, I've been having this issue with killer today!

    had to start playing survivor :'(

  • Use offerings?

  • I don't hugely mind DS that I know about it's the 33% ones that are the worst.

  • @Okapi said:
    @Paddy4583 The devs in a stream a whiles back they said that 70% of matches contain SWF groups. SWF is the large majority of survivors. I'd wager most solo survivors are killer mains and people new to the game.

    @Paddy4583 said:
    Probably because they have the actual numbers of solo players and SWF players and it’s not the way you picture it, why add something to a game that people can already access if they want it, only way adding voice chat to the game could be balanced is it being proxsimity based and heard by the killer, and the. People would go back to their current coms, it’s a pointless waste of time and resources.

    You don't need to add proximity chat. The killer doesn't have to hear the voice chat for it to be balanced. The devs could do other things to balance around voice chat like buffing killer stealth so killers can hide better from groups and adding a secondary objective that's more difficult than generators to slow down the game.

    I think the point he's trying to make is that people want the game balance solely around the chance that there is a 4Man on comms. They don't care about the 2/3 mans.

  • @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:
    Yes, we do base balancing the game around what the best groups can do because if you do not then they can exploit whatever balance issue is there and become unbeatable.

    Yes, you can absolutely exploit bad killers, all they need to do is stop posting and play the game to gain more experience.

    I find it odd how they all claim they dodge SWF but still have a major issue with it - almost like they just want the fun removed.

    If you think SWF is hard, and you start buffing around that, you make the game impossible for solo players, well done, you've further ruined the game because some bad killers on the forum can't handle SWF.

    At any point are you going to post something that isn't pointless rhetoric? The posts you are making are remedial. You can boil it down to "leave SWF broken and OP because i'd like to convince you that if you buff killers to deal with them you leave solo survivors hosed, while at the same time I hope that you aren't intelligent enough to know nerfing the living hell out of SWF will solve the issue and have none of the drawbacks."

    Some of the best killers in this community know and state SWF is broken and you, an unknown in comparison, speak as if you breeze through SWF like it's nothing. It's all hot air. Nobody cares about potato groups it's about the best of the best getting a free ride because the game is exploitable with VoIP and they know how to do it to the Nth degree.

    and almost everyone on this forum is a massive nobody but you expect us all to listen to them? If it looks like bias, swims like bias, and sounds like bias, then it probably is bias.

    "You're a nobody Senzu, so everything you say doesn't mean anything, however all these nobody killers should be listened to because idk they agree with me".

    That's right Senzu, you are an unknown and no one listens to your rhetoric particularly when it is so painfully obtuse and contrary to things fundamentally understood by the community. Even the devs have acknowledged the issues, they just don't care.

    As for those nobody killers? Yeah, no. They are large streamers with cult followings that bring many players to the game and act as a constant source of entertainment for people interested in DbD. There are many days where watching one of them sparks my interest in playing and I'm certainly not alone.

    What huge streamers are here talking about game issues? lmfao

    You have tru3 &... who? lmao they certainly aren't here, are they.

    Why would they be? The devs don't pay attention to this forum any more than they did the Steam forums. Reddit and private messages are where it's at. They also have better things to do than go over issues already talked about endlessly with unknown and intellectually dishonest people like yourself.

    I love how upset you guys get by this forum.

    Little bit of info for you, you're also a huge nobody. I have a different opinion to you, that's cool it's a free world. I'm sorry I don't struggle at every mechanic at this game like you do. I love playing against SWF, I never dodge lobbies and I don't cry about SWF.

    I'm still super curious about this list of large streamers with cult followings that share the same "delete swf" ideology you have.

    That's not called being dishonest it's called having a different opinion, surely someone with the huge intellectual capacity that someone such as yourself holds should understand that.

    The main issue with this game is DS/Map Layouts. SWF is easy, stop crying and get better at the game.

    I don't take you seriously my man. Hearing git gud from someone like you is akin to the survivor I kill telling me how bad I am after I removed them from the game. I can't stop them from saying it, but its self evident.

    You guys are so cute, have a lovely day :)

    You're not even a good troll. When I read delete SWF I knew I was talking to a low information poster willing to give just enough attention to have a reason to post but not attuned enough to understand the conversation in its entirety.

    Right so anyway if you're going to continue this conversation - can I have all the evidence you must have of these large cult following streamers that want something done about SWF?

    As far as I can tell the majority of them deal with SWF pretty well.

    See how easy you are? Let me show you how you dismiss and ignore someone permanently.

    You really think too highly of yourself it's honestly the cutest. a nobody telling a nobody that no one listens to nobodys while telling that nobody they should listen to them.

  • @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:
    Yes, we do base balancing the game around what the best groups can do because if you do not then they can exploit whatever balance issue is there and become unbeatable.

    Yes, you can absolutely exploit bad killers, all they need to do is stop posting and play the game to gain more experience.

    I find it odd how they all claim they dodge SWF but still have a major issue with it - almost like they just want the fun removed.

    If you think SWF is hard, and you start buffing around that, you make the game impossible for solo players, well done, you've further ruined the game because some bad killers on the forum can't handle SWF.

    At any point are you going to post something that isn't pointless rhetoric? The posts you are making are remedial. You can boil it down to "leave SWF broken and OP because i'd like to convince you that if you buff killers to deal with them you leave solo survivors hosed, while at the same time I hope that you aren't intelligent enough to know nerfing the living hell out of SWF will solve the issue and have none of the drawbacks."

    Some of the best killers in this community know and state SWF is broken and you, an unknown in comparison, speak as if you breeze through SWF like it's nothing. It's all hot air. Nobody cares about potato groups it's about the best of the best getting a free ride because the game is exploitable with VoIP and they know how to do it to the Nth degree.

    and almost everyone on this forum is a massive nobody but you expect us all to listen to them? If it looks like bias, swims like bias, and sounds like bias, then it probably is bias.

    "You're a nobody Senzu, so everything you say doesn't mean anything, however all these nobody killers should be listened to because idk they agree with me".

    That's right Senzu, you are an unknown and no one listens to your rhetoric particularly when it is so painfully obtuse and contrary to things fundamentally understood by the community. Even the devs have acknowledged the issues, they just don't care.

    As for those nobody killers? Yeah, no. They are large streamers with cult followings that bring many players to the game and act as a constant source of entertainment for people interested in DbD. There are many days where watching one of them sparks my interest in playing and I'm certainly not alone.

    What huge streamers are here talking about game issues? lmfao

    You have tru3 &... who? lmao they certainly aren't here, are they.

    Why would they be? The devs don't pay attention to this forum any more than they did the Steam forums. Reddit and private messages are where it's at. They also have better things to do than go over issues already talked about endlessly with unknown and intellectually dishonest people like yourself.

    I love how upset you guys get by this forum.

    Little bit of info for you, you're also a huge nobody. I have a different opinion to you, that's cool it's a free world. I'm sorry I don't struggle at every mechanic at this game like you do. I love playing against SWF, I never dodge lobbies and I don't cry about SWF.

    I'm still super curious about this list of large streamers with cult followings that share the same "delete swf" ideology you have.

    That's not called being dishonest it's called having a different opinion, surely someone with the huge intellectual capacity that someone such as yourself holds should understand that.

    The main issue with this game is DS/Map Layouts. SWF is easy, stop crying and get better at the game.

    I don't take you seriously my man. Hearing git gud from someone like you is akin to the survivor I kill telling me how bad I am after I removed them from the game. I can't stop them from saying it, but its self evident.

    You guys are so cute, have a lovely day :)

    You're not even a good troll. When I read delete SWF I knew I was talking to a low information poster willing to give just enough attention to have a reason to post but not attuned enough to understand the conversation in its entirety.

    Right so anyway if you're going to continue this conversation - can I have all the evidence you must have of these large cult following streamers that want something done about SWF?

    As far as I can tell the majority of them deal with SWF pretty well.

  • @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:
    Yes, we do base balancing the game around what the best groups can do because if you do not then they can exploit whatever balance issue is there and become unbeatable.

    Yes, you can absolutely exploit bad killers, all they need to do is stop posting and play the game to gain more experience.

    I find it odd how they all claim they dodge SWF but still have a major issue with it - almost like they just want the fun removed.

    If you think SWF is hard, and you start buffing around that, you make the game impossible for solo players, well done, you've further ruined the game because some bad killers on the forum can't handle SWF.

    At any point are you going to post something that isn't pointless rhetoric? The posts you are making are remedial. You can boil it down to "leave SWF broken and OP because i'd like to convince you that if you buff killers to deal with them you leave solo survivors hosed, while at the same time I hope that you aren't intelligent enough to know nerfing the living hell out of SWF will solve the issue and have none of the drawbacks."

    Some of the best killers in this community know and state SWF is broken and you, an unknown in comparison, speak as if you breeze through SWF like it's nothing. It's all hot air. Nobody cares about potato groups it's about the best of the best getting a free ride because the game is exploitable with VoIP and they know how to do it to the Nth degree.

    and almost everyone on this forum is a massive nobody but you expect us all to listen to them? If it looks like bias, swims like bias, and sounds like bias, then it probably is bias.

    "You're a nobody Senzu, so everything you say doesn't mean anything, however all these nobody killers should be listened to because idk they agree with me".

    That's right Senzu, you are an unknown and no one listens to your rhetoric particularly when it is so painfully obtuse and contrary to things fundamentally understood by the community. Even the devs have acknowledged the issues, they just don't care.

    As for those nobody killers? Yeah, no. They are large streamers with cult followings that bring many players to the game and act as a constant source of entertainment for people interested in DbD. There are many days where watching one of them sparks my interest in playing and I'm certainly not alone.

    What huge streamers are here talking about game issues? lmfao

    You have tru3 &... who? lmao they certainly aren't here, are they.

    Why would they be? The devs don't pay attention to this forum any more than they did the Steam forums. Reddit and private messages are where it's at. They also have better things to do than go over issues already talked about endlessly with unknown and intellectually dishonest people like yourself.

    I love how upset you guys get by this forum.

    Little bit of info for you, you're also a huge nobody. I have a different opinion to you, that's cool it's a free world. I'm sorry I don't struggle at every mechanic at this game like you do. I love playing against SWF, I never dodge lobbies and I don't cry about SWF.

    I'm still super curious about this list of large streamers with cult followings that share the same "delete swf" ideology you have.

    That's not called being dishonest it's called having a different opinion, surely someone with the huge intellectual capacity that someone such as yourself holds should understand that.

    The main issue with this game is DS/Map Layouts. SWF is easy, stop crying and get better at the game.

    I don't take you seriously my man. Hearing git gud from someone like you is akin to the survivor I kill telling me how bad I am after I removed them from the game. I can't stop them from saying it, but its self evident.

    You guys are so cute, have a lovely day :)

  • @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:
    Yes, we do base balancing the game around what the best groups can do because if you do not then they can exploit whatever balance issue is there and become unbeatable.

    Yes, you can absolutely exploit bad killers, all they need to do is stop posting and play the game to gain more experience.

    I find it odd how they all claim they dodge SWF but still have a major issue with it - almost like they just want the fun removed.

    If you think SWF is hard, and you start buffing around that, you make the game impossible for solo players, well done, you've further ruined the game because some bad killers on the forum can't handle SWF.

    At any point are you going to post something that isn't pointless rhetoric? The posts you are making are remedial. You can boil it down to "leave SWF broken and OP because i'd like to convince you that if you buff killers to deal with them you leave solo survivors hosed, while at the same time I hope that you aren't intelligent enough to know nerfing the living hell out of SWF will solve the issue and have none of the drawbacks."

    Some of the best killers in this community know and state SWF is broken and you, an unknown in comparison, speak as if you breeze through SWF like it's nothing. It's all hot air. Nobody cares about potato groups it's about the best of the best getting a free ride because the game is exploitable with VoIP and they know how to do it to the Nth degree.

    and almost everyone on this forum is a massive nobody but you expect us all to listen to them? If it looks like bias, swims like bias, and sounds like bias, then it probably is bias.

    "You're a nobody Senzu, so everything you say doesn't mean anything, however all these nobody killers should be listened to because idk they agree with me".

    That's right Senzu, you are an unknown and no one listens to your rhetoric particularly when it is so painfully obtuse and contrary to things fundamentally understood by the community. Even the devs have acknowledged the issues, they just don't care.

    As for those nobody killers? Yeah, no. They are large streamers with cult followings that bring many players to the game and act as a constant source of entertainment for people interested in DbD. There are many days where watching one of them sparks my interest in playing and I'm certainly not alone.

    What huge streamers are here talking about game issues? lmfao

    You have tru3 &... who? lmao they certainly aren't here, are they.

    Why would they be? The devs don't pay attention to this forum any more than they did the Steam forums. Reddit and private messages are where it's at. They also have better things to do than go over issues already talked about endlessly with unknown and intellectually dishonest people like yourself.

    I love how upset you guys get by this forum.

    Little bit of info for you, you're also a huge nobody. I have a different opinion to you, that's cool it's a free world. I'm sorry I don't struggle at every mechanic at this game like you do. I love playing against SWF, I never dodge lobbies and I don't cry about SWF.

    I'm still super curious about this list of large streamers with cult followings that share the same "delete swf" ideology you have.

    That's not called being dishonest it's called having a different opinion, surely someone with the huge intellectual capacity that someone such as yourself holds should understand that.

    The main issue with this game is DS/Map Layouts. SWF is easy, stop crying and get better at the game.

  • @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:
    Yes, we do base balancing the game around what the best groups can do because if you do not then they can exploit whatever balance issue is there and become unbeatable.

    Yes, you can absolutely exploit bad killers, all they need to do is stop posting and play the game to gain more experience.

    I find it odd how they all claim they dodge SWF but still have a major issue with it - almost like they just want the fun removed.

    If you think SWF is hard, and you start buffing around that, you make the game impossible for solo players, well done, you've further ruined the game because some bad killers on the forum can't handle SWF.

    At any point are you going to post something that isn't pointless rhetoric? The posts you are making are remedial. You can boil it down to "leave SWF broken and OP because i'd like to convince you that if you buff killers to deal with them you leave solo survivors hosed, while at the same time I hope that you aren't intelligent enough to know nerfing the living hell out of SWF will solve the issue and have none of the drawbacks."

    Some of the best killers in this community know and state SWF is broken and you, an unknown in comparison, speak as if you breeze through SWF like it's nothing. It's all hot air. Nobody cares about potato groups it's about the best of the best getting a free ride because the game is exploitable with VoIP and they know how to do it to the Nth degree.

    and almost everyone on this forum is a massive nobody but you expect us all to listen to them? If it looks like bias, swims like bias, and sounds like bias, then it probably is bias.

    "You're a nobody Senzu, so everything you say doesn't mean anything, however all these nobody killers should be listened to because idk they agree with me".

    That's right Senzu, you are an unknown and no one listens to your rhetoric particularly when it is so painfully obtuse and contrary to things fundamentally understood by the community. Even the devs have acknowledged the issues, they just don't care.

    As for those nobody killers? Yeah, no. They are large streamers with cult followings that bring many players to the game and act as a constant source of entertainment for people interested in DbD. There are many days where watching one of them sparks my interest in playing and I'm certainly not alone.

    What huge streamers are here talking about game issues? lmfao

    You have tru3 &... who? lmao they certainly aren't here, are they.

  • @DuckApproved said:
    @Boss So they have an entire team dedicated to cosmetics? I think they got their priorities wrong. Having said that the new Wraith skin does look good, Giddawid kinda calmed me down. Just want whats best for the game as an active player.

    So they should fire the art department and only hire programmers? lmao

    They have an art department, and a programming department. That isn't too hard to understand.

  • @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:
    Yes, we do base balancing the game around what the best groups can do because if you do not then they can exploit whatever balance issue is there and become unbeatable.

    Yes, you can absolutely exploit bad killers, all they need to do is stop posting and play the game to gain more experience.

    I find it odd how they all claim they dodge SWF but still have a major issue with it - almost like they just want the fun removed.

    If you think SWF is hard, and you start buffing around that, you make the game impossible for solo players, well done, you've further ruined the game because some bad killers on the forum can't handle SWF.

    At any point are you going to post something that isn't pointless rhetoric? The posts you are making are remedial. You can boil it down to "leave SWF broken and OP because i'd like to convince you that if you buff killers to deal with them you leave solo survivors hosed, while at the same time I hope that you aren't intelligent enough to know nerfing the living hell out of SWF will solve the issue and have none of the drawbacks."

    Some of the best killers in this community know and state SWF is broken and you, an unknown in comparison, speak as if you breeze through SWF like it's nothing. It's all hot air. Nobody cares about potato groups it's about the best of the best getting a free ride because the game is exploitable with VoIP and they know how to do it to the Nth degree.

    and almost everyone on this forum is a massive nobody but you expect us all to listen to them? If it looks like bias, swims like bias, and sounds like bias, then it probably is bias.

    "You're a nobody Senzu, so everything you say doesn't mean anything, however all these nobody killers should be listened to because idk they agree with me".

  • @Tucking_Friggered said:
    Yes, we do base balancing the game around what the best groups can do because if you do not then they can exploit whatever balance issue is there and become unbeatable.

    Yes, you can absolutely exploit bad killers, all they need to do is stop posting and play the game to gain more experience.

    I find it odd how they all claim they dodge SWF but still have a major issue with it - almost like they just want the fun removed.

    If you think SWF is hard, and you start buffing around that, you make the game impossible for solo players, well done, you've further ruined the game because some bad killers on the forum can't handle SWF.

  • @Tucking_Friggered said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tucking_Friggered said:
    It doesn't matter what the worst SWF teams can do, it only matters what the best can. If the best can play in a way that makes winning all but impossible for any but a dedicated Nurse then there is a problem.

    Every killer could run Ebony Mori so we should be balancing around that as well.

    Ebony mori is a UR blood web item and can not be maintained every match by virtue of the cost and scarcity. Try again.

    Not every game is a 4Man SWF Death Squad, so you shouldn't be basing it around that either, killer is easier than it ever has been yet the same stale killer mains keep coming to this forum acting as if nothings changed, it's ridiculous.

  • @Tucking_Friggered said:
    It doesn't matter what the worst SWF teams can do, it only matters what the best can. If the best can play in a way that makes winning all but impossible for any but a dedicated Nurse then there is a problem.

    Every killer could run Ebony Mori so we should be balancing around that as well.

  • @PhantomMask20763 said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @PhantomMask20763 said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @NoxiousOnnyyxx said:
    
    SenzuDuck said:
    

    @chemical_reject said: Tzeentchling9 said:

    So what really happens is some people are too dumb to utilize outrageous advantages? You told her to run away and she choose not to.    I suppose we are also ignoring her immediately calling out the Killer's direction and movements once on the hook.        Master said:    @chemical_reject said:    @NoxiousOnnyyxx        Even though they are complete plebs, they still are aware that hes being chased and all worked on gens
    

    Lol salty killer mains  Exactly that, despite you probably never having played against them they're still in here calling you dumb and plebs for a single mistake made in one match. These are the types of people that ruin this game imo.

    Thank you!!
    
    
    
    But don't worry guys - according to them SWF is the toxicity, you know... you guys having a joke and laughing at each others mess-ups.
    
    Coming to the forums and insulting people is A OK THO
    

    Forum swf is completly different from in-game swf. I swear some people exaggerate some stuff way too much on both sides lol 

    I mean - I'm someone who plays killer a lot and I've never dodge a lobby in my life except for bad pings or forgotten to do something and I have absolutely no issue with SWF at all I think they're the more enjoyable matches because it isn't a brainless M1 - Ability - Hook repeat match.

    Some people just can't handle a challenge, or they like to say it's a challenge it's just another game for me.

    Completly agree. I enjoy challenges as well, one of the main reasons I play video games :) and rarely do I actually come across the elusive 4 man swf death squad 

    Last year killer became incredibly easy but the usual suspects from this forum still haven't been able to do better.

    I think the only real issue this game has is some of the building loops are too long with certain perks, mainly balanced landing + Crotus Prenn/Hadnofun

  • @PhantomMask20763 said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @NoxiousOnnyyxx said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @chemical_reject said:
    
    Tzeentchling9 said:
    

    So what really happens is some people are too dumb to utilize outrageous advantages? You told her to run away and she choose not to. I suppose we are also ignoring her immediately calling out the Killer's direction and movements once on the hook. Master said: @chemical_reject said: @NoxiousOnnyyxx Even though they are complete plebs, they still are aware that hes being chased and all worked on gens

    Lol salty killer mains 
    
    
    
    Exactly that, despite you probably never having played against them they're still in here calling you dumb and plebs for a single mistake made in one match.
    
    These are the types of people that ruin this game imo.
    

    Thank you!!

    But don't worry guys - according to them SWF is the toxicity, you know... you guys having a joke and laughing at each others mess-ups.

    Coming to the forums and insulting people is A OK THO

    Forum swf is completly different from in-game swf. I swear some people exaggerate some stuff way too much on both sides lol 

    I mean - I'm someone who plays killer a lot and I've never dodge a lobby in my life except for bad pings or forgotten to do something and I have absolutely no issue with SWF at all I think they're the more enjoyable matches because it isn't a brainless M1 - Ability - Hook repeat match.

    Some people just can't handle a challenge, or they like to say it's a challenge it's just another game for me.

  • @NoxiousOnnyyxx said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @chemical_reject said:

    Tzeentchling9 said:

    So what really happens is some people are too dumb to utilize outrageous advantages? You told her to run away and she choose not to.
    
    I suppose we are also ignoring her immediately calling out the Killer's direction and movements once on the hook.
    
    
    
    Master said:
    
    @chemical_reject said:
    
    @NoxiousOnnyyxx
    
    
    
    Even though they are complete plebs, they still are aware that hes being chased and all worked on gens
    

    Lol salty killer mains 

    Exactly that, despite you probably never having played against them they're still in here calling you dumb and plebs for a single mistake made in one match.

    These are the types of people that ruin this game imo.

    Thank you!!

    But don't worry guys - according to them SWF is the toxicity, you know... you guys having a joke and laughing at each others mess-ups.

    Coming to the forums and insulting people is A OK THO

  • @chemical_reject said:
    Tzeentchling9 said:

    So what really happens is some people are too dumb to utilize outrageous advantages? You told her to run away and she choose not to.

    I suppose we are also ignoring her immediately calling out the Killer's direction and movements once on the hook.


    Master said:

    @chemical_reject said:

    @NoxiousOnnyyxx

    Even though they are complete plebs, they still are aware that hes being chased and all worked on gens

    Lol salty killer mains 

    Exactly that, despite you probably never having played against them they're still in here calling you dumb and plebs for a single mistake made in one match.

    These are the types of people that ruin this game imo.

  • @Tsulan said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Could you mark the spot where I used the words "master list" please?

    Where I accuse the creator of MLGA directly?

    [MLGA shared the list]. Which was supposed to track high ping, unsportsmanlike players, etc.

    [Then survivors dodged killers, because they were on that list.] This resulted in terribly long queues for both sides as no one could play.

    I've used square brackets to mark it.

    "MLGA Shared That List" & "Then survivors dodged killers, because they were on that list"

    incase you missed the brackets.

    You don't use the word "master list" but I just used it to simply what you were saying.

    You basically say MLGA had a list that they shared, and then players would dodge based on "that list". Only conclusion I can come to is you're saying MLGA had a master list they shared so players would find it easier to dodge.

    There's also this comment "Yes people bragged about it on the steam forum and about the shared lists."

    Shared List/Master List - It's the same thing, implying survivors would share blocked lists to save others the hassle.

    So I didn't use master list. Nor did I accuse the creator of MLGA.
    But you call me a liar and put words into my mouth because of your conclusions. Which are your opinion and no facts.

    I think you derailed this enough with your rant. 
    How about we stop this before a mod shuts this down. 

    How is

    ""MLGA Shared That List" & "Then survivors dodged killers, because they were on that list""

    not accusing MLGA? You literally said that survivors were dodging games based on "that list" referring to a list MLGA Shared?

  • @NathanExplosion said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    "MLGA Shared That List" & "Then survivors dodged killers, because they were on that list"
    ...

    You basically say MLGA had a list that they shared, and then players would dodge based on "that list". Only conclusion I can come to is you're saying MLGA had a master list they shared so players would find it easier to dodge.

    There's also this comment "Yes people bragged about it on the steam forum and about the shared lists."

    Shared List/Master List - It's the same thing, implying survivors would share blocked lists to save others the hassle.

    Because you deny it now ?

    What am I denying?

    Dude, are you actually sure you know how to read? I'm not denying anything lmfao.

  • @Tsulan said:
    Could you mark the spot where I used the words "master list" please?
    Where I accuse the creator of MLGA directly?

    [MLGA shared the list]. Which was supposed to track high ping, unsportsmanlike players, etc.
    [Then survivors dodged killers, because they were on that list.] This resulted in terribly long queues for both sides as no one could play.

    I've used square brackets to mark it.

    "MLGA Shared That List" & "Then survivors dodged killers, because they were on that list"

    incase you missed the brackets.

    You don't use the word "master list" but I just used it to simply what you were saying.

    You basically say MLGA had a list that they shared, and then players would dodge based on "that list". Only conclusion I can come to is you're saying MLGA had a master list they shared so players would find it easier to dodge.

    There's also this comment "Yes people bragged about it on the steam forum and about the shared lists."

    Shared List/Master List - It's the same thing, implying survivors would share blocked lists to save others the hassle.

  • @Tsulan said:
    Wait... I just realized that you base your whole rant on the word "shared"? 
    Everything else was correct but since I used "shared" you call me a liar and start a fight?

    Even IF it wasn't shared.
    Survivors used MLGA to block killers for whatever reason they liked.
    This caused long queues because everyone blacklisted Freddy. 
    The devs contacted the creator of MLGA and took it off the whitelist. 

    You act like everything was made up.

    It's far worse than just using the word "shared".

    MLGA shared the list. Which was supposed to track high ping, unsportsmanlike players, etc.
    Then survivors dodged killers, because they were on that list. This resulted in terribly long queues for both sides as no one could play.

    With this comment you accuse MLGA creator of making a master list, and sharing it across survivors to so they didn't have to do much work and could dodge people based on others recommendations.

    That's a pretty heavy accusation on survivors especially for something that isn't true.

    "This resulted in terribly long queues for both sides" When did it? another false statement that has no proof other than your speculation lobbies have always been weird, especially around events, but to make up your own statement and say it was due to MLGA is ridiculous.

    Pretty much no one stopped using MLGA that was using it and we still have queue issues, there is no correlation.

  • @NathanExplosion said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    and it's very clear you don't understand anything about this, lmao.

    Is that all you have to come back with ?

    Is that been that much time you didn't faced any opposition that you are already that tired ?

    Looks like.

    You literally linked a wiki page and was like "but dis". That proves nothing, I can't find a single discussion anywhere from anyone about master lists and blocking players and sharing that list, not a single conversation

    But it's ok, you have a wiki page LUL

  • @NathanExplosion said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    I know there's a block feature, but where this master list thats being shared between players.
    ...

    Guess what, there's no master block list being shared between anyone, that would have been incredibly nefarious but of course Tsulan has to pretend there is one to continue his crusade against survivors.

    You keep mentioning this block feature that you know... I've already acknowledged in two comments in this thread but you bring it up again OMEGALUL.

    "MakeLobbiesGreatAgain uses a packet capture library to detect STUN packets from any peer-to-peer connection, in order to determine who you're connected to and get ping from."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUN

    "STUN is a tool used by other protocols, such as Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE), the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP), or WebRTC. It provides a tool for hosts to discover the presence of a network address translator, and to discover the mapped, usually public, Internet Protocol (IP) address and port number that the NAT has allocated for the application's User Datagram Protocol (UDP) flows to remote hosts. The protocol requires assistance from a third-party network server (STUN server) located on the opposing (public) side of the NAT, usually the public Internet. "

    Looks like you can't figure it by yourself by reading it alone.

    and it's very clear you don't understand anything about this, lmao.

    Tell me how this was creating a database that was being shared between players to create master block lists that were creating 45+ minute queues, lmao.

  • @NathanExplosion said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    How is that a flat out lie by the way?

    Because you know that what he say is true most of the time (like in that case) but here you are, in nearly every threads he posted on, using ad hominem and usual toxic survivor's fallacy in a desperate attempt to discredit him.

    We both know it, that's really not the first time you and the usual others peoples are doing it, i'm just pointing out.

    Knowing the fact that his posts seems still quite listened to, despite you acting that way, is delicious.

    He literally hasn't proven what he's said to be true and even has you holding his hand and neither of you have proved there was a master list being shared.

    https://github.com/PsiLupan/MakeLobbiesGreatAgain

    "MakeLobbiesGreatAgain uses a packet capture library to detect STUN packets from any peer-to-peer connection, in order to determine who you're connected to and get ping from."
    ...
    "Optional Features:

    Double-Click to lock/unlock the overlay for dragging
    Shift + Left Click on a player, highlighted in a darker color for current selection, to toggle to BLOCKED, LOVED, or back to the normal display
    To exit, simply look for the icon in your system tray near the clock, right-click, and select Exit."
    

    Ok, now I know you have to be trolling.

    I know there's a block feature, but where this master list thats being shared between players.

    There is no "ad hominem". the entire conversation is the fact that Tsulan likes to make up things and hopes no one checks it out.

    Guess what, there's no master block list being shared between anyone, that would have been incredibly nefarious but of course Tsulan has to pretend there is one to continue his crusade against survivors.

    You keep mentioning this block feature that you know... I've already acknowledged in two comments in this thread but you bring it up again OMEGALUL.

    Also, how is it that whenever i ask for proof, I come across a huge defensive post saying they don't need to, but when I'm asked for it I provide it without hesitation... seems weird that some people have no issue providing proof while others like to dismiss the need for it.

    Smart people

  • @NathanExplosion said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    But heck, STILL waiting for all the evidence of me lying.

    Already answered, nearly all of your post.

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    People really have a short memory. 
    MLGA was removed from the whitelist because survivors put players that played specific killers like Freddy on their blacklist. 
    MLGA shared the list. Which was supposed to track high ping, unsportsmanlike players, etc.
    Then survivors dodged killers, because they were on that list. This resulted in terribly long queues for both sides as no one could play.
    The devs had to intervene and remove MLGA from the whitelist. 

    Source?

    Or are you continuing your method of making things up and hoping no one realises?

    ^

    This one to begin with.

    The reason i'm here.

    It's been quite the time that i see Tsulan being harassed by some known regulars of this forum.

    The prize of being one of the last killer still here i guess.

    I respect a lot his patience tho.

    How is that a flat out lie by the way?
    He literally hasn't proven what he's said to be true and even has you holding his hand and neither of you have proved there was a master list being shared.

  • @NathanExplosion said:
    Of course you forgot to mention that these kind of features already existed, and was obviously abused to oblivion, hence why the Devs intervention (after months of ignoring it the problems as usual, so much that it became a matchmaking problem) by removing it of whitelist.

    The "Blocked/Loved" feature for example.
    At the time it already became a problem, peoples using it were already talking about much specific category (camper,etc...) to add.

    I think it's also one of the reason devs suddenly reacted.

    Normal thing, it was already causing problem but the mass of entitled childrens were still working and debating which new "class" should have the priority to be added : camper or toxic tunneller ? LUL

    https://github.com/PsiLupan/MakeLobbiesGreatAgain

    Everything is there, nothing better than the source for everyone to make an opinion.

    I still remember the creator's entitled rant when it was removed from whitelist.

    The salt was real... and tasty.

    My second comment in this thread says

    "of course people blocked for things like that but the rest of the comment is BS."

    I never dismissed that there was a blocked list, but this whole "survivor sharing master lists of awful killers" is complete hyperbole.

    Again, nothing you've posted has any evidence, just you saying someone said this and someone did that.

    I can't find a single link to a master list, let alone it ever being mentioned.

    But heck, STILL waiting for all the evidence of me lying.

  • @Tsulan said:
    SenzuDuck said:


    NathanExplosion said:

    @Mc_Harty said:

     @SenzuDuck said:
    

    Source?

    Or are you continuing your method of making things up and hoping no one realises?

    I can confirm what @Tsulan says here is true. People bragged on the Steam forums about blocking Freddy players. Still, it's the [BAD WORD] Steam forums.

    And don't forget kids, both side are equally toxic and...

    Except MLGA has never had a feature like this, lmao.

    I found the thread and the dude that made that comment is clearly trolling. He talks about special MLGA adding like “SewerNewbs” that avoids players with low hours.

    trust you guys to fall for a troll, use it as proof & try to mock survivors too.

    Uhm...
    Proof?

    SenzuDuck#0001

    That's my discord name, you can private message me and I'll link you the thread happily.

    Actually, here you go.


    He has since changed his profile picture and probably name.
    https://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/1480982338958106544/?ctp=2

    I'd love to give you proof of "SewerNewbs" but of course it doesn't exist anywhere on google except for where this dude has typed it

    Wow, a magical block list that no one on the internet except this guy has mentioned? SeemsAboutTroll

  • @SenzuDuck said:

    Except MLGA has never had a feature like this, lmao.

    I found the thread and the dude that made that comment is clearly trolling. He talks about special MLGA adding like “SewerNewbs” that avoids players with low hours.

    trust you guys to fall for a troll, use it as proof & try to mock survivors too.

    When you can't counter any arguments you proceed to blatantly lie, in hope peoples has forgot it or weren't even there at this moment.

    I'm not surprised tho.

    Or you could read the rest of the thread where he talks about MLGA ”addons” that I can’t find on google at all.
    Just seems weird to me that theres no guide, or websites or anything with these so called master lists on them, or any of these addons existing anywhere... almost as if... they don't exist.

    ill happily link anyone to the thread via a private message so they can confirm. Unlike you I have no issue with proving something...

    still waiting for you to link to all those comments of me lying.

    you just dismiss everything without evidence and then call me the liar it’s hilarious.
  • @Mc_Harty said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    Source?

    Or are you continuing your method of making things up and hoping no one realises?

    I can confirm what @Tsulan says here is true. People bragged on the Steam forums about blocking Freddy players. Still, it's the [BAD WORD] Steam forums.

    And don't forget kids, both side are equally toxic and...

    Except MLGA has never had a feature like this, lmao.

    I found the thread and the dude that made that comment is clearly trolling. He talks about special MLGA adding like “SewerNewbs” that avoids players with low hours.

    trust you guys to fall for a troll, use it as proof & try to mock survivors too.
  • @NathanExplosion said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    Interesting, link me one of my comments where I have flat out lied about something.

    I'll wait.

    As i said, nearly everyone of them.

    Peoples just have to go trought your post history to get an idea.

    Your " Prove it >:D" attitude already tell a lot :)

    Not really - you can't link ONE single comment that's a lie, if it's SO easy to find one directly link one...

    My "prove it" attitude is how things should happen if someone presents something that seems incorrect, if you can't prove something don't state it as a matter of fact.

    Just like you wont prove that all of my comments are lies because you wont link to one, or it's not that you wont link to one, it's more the fact you can't link to one, because you're yet another person lying behind a keyboard.

  • @NathanExplosion said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    Or are you continuing your method of making things up and hoping no one realises?

    Accusing peoples for what you are exactly doing at the moment.

    98% of your posts can be summarized by this :

    I'm gonna add that there are more insults in them and they sound even more condescending than in the past.

    But yet, here you are, never banned...

    Speak a lot about how this community and this game are handled lul.

    Interesting, link me one of my comments where I have flat out lied about something.

    I'll wait.

  • @Tsulan said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:

    People really have a short memory. 

    MLGA was removed from the whitelist because survivors put players that played specific killers like Freddy on their blacklist. 

    MLGA shared the list. Which was supposed to track high ping, unsportsmanlike players, etc.

    Then survivors dodged killers, because they were on that list. This resulted in terribly long queues for both sides as no one could play.

    The devs had to intervene and remove MLGA from the whitelist. 

    Source?

    Or are you continuing your method of making things up and hoping no one realises?

    Ahh I see you continue your witchhunt towards me.
    Good luck

    Ahh gotcha, no source once again.

    SoundsAboutRight.

    There is no witchhunt, lmao. Just no one else seems to lie on the forums like you do, no need to call out people who tell the truth, is there?

  • @Mc_Harty said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    Source?

    Or are you continuing your method of making things up and hoping no one realises?

    I can confirm what @Tsulan says here is true. People bragged on the Steam forums about blocking Freddy players. Still, it's the [BAD WORD] Steam forums.

    I'm talking about the specific

    "MLGA shared the list. Which was supposed to track high ping, unsportsmanlike players, etc.
    Then survivors dodged killers, because they were on that list. This resulted in terribly long queues for both sides as no one could play."

    How this reads is that MLGA shared a master list of blacklisted users that were on "that list".

    of course people blocked for things like that but the rest of the comment is BS.

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