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I think mist addons are absolutely the worst things to exist, they make freddys sight even more worse than it is and certainly makes visibility harder for killers as they're in 1st person and can't look above it like survivors can.
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I don't think you know what Quality of Life changes are.
These are what you call buffs.
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@Peanits said:
I'll play Devil's Advocate.Who's going to opt to play against well coordinated survivors? I'm willing to bet not many.
What's that going to do to SWF queue times? It'll make it go through the roof. Remember the beta? That'll just happen again. People will just dodge lobbies until they get in the lobby with their friends, driving up queue times for everyone in the process. And then when you do end up against a group, you won't even know, and people will still complain and accuse them of being a group.I've queued as solo before and been accused of teaming.
I also play SWF without using Coms, I prefer it - according to most who don't like SWF it's all about communication but even when I'm not communicating I'm still getting accused of "cheating" or making it easy.An opt out would break everything and you'd still have people complaining it's too hard.
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@gamerx42z said:
So who exactly is the "weak one" in my example where I got a team of 4 rank 2 SWF vs me as a level 15? And it's pretty hard to move on when they hold the game hostage refusing to leave the match even when gates are open.It's people with your mentality that are making me consider just closing the game every time a SWF team refuses to leave the game when exits are open.
A team of 4 rank 2's.
so they queued up with the same ranks, and still got put into a lobby with a rank 15 killer - almost as if it's not the survivor fault and they tried to play fair but still had messed up queue ranks. this
your statement basically contradicts that survivors queueu intentionally to bully low ranks.
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@gamerx42z said:
Not to mention Senzu doesn't seem to notice or care that even rank 20 killers can be matched up with rank 1-2 swf. How hard is that to understand? Try having your average level 20 rank killer with 0 perks against a SWF team with all great perks.Also you CANNOT see peoples ranks in the lobby as a killer. At least not on ps4 that I've seen so there is no way to know if they are a high rank SWF team or not.
But ok lets let the rank 1-2 SWF teams bully rank 15-20 killers and the killers just have to "deal with it"
Except I've said this several times - Killers at rank one easily get ranked against survivors of all levels, I've had it happen to me, it just happens the lobby system sucks.
Survivors at low ranks easily get ranked against killers that are 5-10 levels below them.
If as new survivor is ranking with a better survivor, kill the weak one - move on.
jfc it's very simple guys - there are ways to beat swf.
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@Delfador said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Delfador said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Mycroft said:
@shadowsfall42 said:
So what will happen when basically 99% of killers opt out of swf? Matchmaking will take so long that survivors will just jump ship. Thereby killing the game.
So, it seems to me there is a bigger issue that needs to be dealt with. If so many people are not wanting to do it maybe there's a problem. And we can stop trying to force people against their will to endure that unbalanced torturous mechanic
Theres thousands of people playing the game and not coming here to moan about it, just because 8 people in a forum constantly cry and moan about SWF does not mean the rest of the people hate it enough to warrant it's removal - it will also kill the game which seems to be killers hidden agendas.
This isn't actually a good answer to him because you still couldn't address the core issue.
If only 8 people in a forum cries and moans about it and the rest of the killer community is okay with SWFs, opting out is not that big of a problem since SWFs will find games easily. Only 8 people will opt out it.
This is not the case though. Although only 5-10 people in the forum mention SWF, almost every single killer playing the game has problems with SWF groups. So everybody will prefer non SWF games. Why does everybody prefers non SWF games though?
He is pointing out that if all of the killers have problems with SWF, there is something wrong with it. Why should killers endure unbalanced games etc.
I don't like the idea because it is gonna kill the game. Playing an unbalanced game is better than not playing it imo. I don't have any solutions for that but I feel like @Mycroft is right here
Except why would you opt into harder gameplay.
People just wouldn't do it and it would kill that game, seriously how does no one understand that theres thousands of casual players that just hang out with their friends and play just to relax.They don't make reddit posts, they don't make forum accounts, they don't say anything in chat, they just leave and queue for the next game.
Every single defense you have made in favor of survivors can be made for the killers as well.
Why would survivors tell where the killer is?
Why would they tell which perks the killer is using?
Why would they tell where the killer's totem is?
Clearly these kind of things will make the game easier for the survivors. Why would they opt into harder gameplay.
There are thousands of casual players that just play the killer and relax. They don't want to deal with 'harder modes'.
Apparently only 5-10 killers moan about the SWF groups. So we can say the same thing for the killers as well. They don't make reddit posts, they don't make forum accounts, they don't say anything in chat, they just leave and queue for the next game. Except the game is harder for the killers not for the survivors.
Again, I am not against SWF. However, we can't ignore that SWF is a problem and create an unfair environment. If they have benefits of communication, killers need something as well.
implying any of this can't be avoided by just hitting the "leave lobby" button.
lel.An auto opt out would kill the game - you currently have the choice - the simple fact is killers still moan about SWF when it's 2 friends together and two randoms. they aren't ALL communicating with each other, and if you see two people connect together just tunnel them OR DODGE THE LOBBY.
People act as if SWF is impossible to beat, and I'll tell you now - It's not. You can dodge them at the start, you can tunnel them, but the fact you want to block 2/3/4 mans from ever being put into matches is absolutely stupid.
I'm someone who doesn't dodge lobbies, ever, 4 flashlights, lets go, 4 tool boxes, lets go, 4 full legacies, lets go. Too many cry babies - put on noed, put on lightborne these perks are there for a reason.
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@Mycroft said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Delfador said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Mycroft said:
@shadowsfall42 said:
So what will happen when basically 99% of killers opt out of swf? Matchmaking will take so long that survivors will just jump ship. Thereby killing the game.
So, it seems to me there is a bigger issue that needs to be dealt with. If so many people are not wanting to do it maybe there's a problem. And we can stop trying to force people against their will to endure that unbalanced torturous mechanic
Theres thousands of people playing the game and not coming here to moan about it, just because 8 people in a forum constantly cry and moan about SWF does not mean the rest of the people hate it enough to warrant it's removal - it will also kill the game which seems to be killers hidden agendas.
This isn't actually a good answer to him because you still couldn't address the core issue.
If only 8 people in a forum cries and moans about it and the rest of the killer community is okay with SWFs, opting out is not that big of a problem since SWFs will find games easily. Only 8 people will opt out it.
This is not the case though. Although only 5-10 people in the forum mention SWF, almost every single killer playing the game has problems with SWF groups. So everybody will prefer non SWF games. Why does everybody prefers non SWF games though?
He is pointing out that if all of the killers have problems with SWF, there is something wrong with it. Why should killers endure unbalanced games etc.
I don't like the idea because it is gonna kill the game. Playing an unbalanced game is better than not playing it imo. I don't have any solutions for that but I feel like @Mycroft is right here
Except why would you opt into harder gameplay.
People just wouldn't do it and it would kill that game, seriously how does no one understand that theres thousands of casual players that just hang out with their friends and play just to relax.They don't make reddit posts, they don't make forum accounts, they don't say anything in chat, they just leave and queue for the next game.
There are just as many people wanting to play and learn to play killer. Especially those sub rank 10 killers that have to get vsed by rank 1s and such curbstomping them cause a rank 20 created the SWF lobby that get matched with them. Did they ask for that?
Absolutely not - make it so 4-Man SWFs are forced to play against their lowest rank, not a survivor issue. People want to play with their friends regardless of rank.
Here's master saying he deranks
Here's HellDescent saying he deranks
did.... did these survivors ask for this? Do... do you think they like being curb stomped because a killer can't handle the rank he's got too so cheats and intentionally loses matches so he can play against newer survivors.
The difference is - you can see your survivors, you can check their hours (providing they're public) and dodge. A survivor has no chance in hell to see how experienced their killer is.
Both sides get ranked against other ranks just as poorly, again - lets not pretend this is only a survivor thing as you like to do so often.
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@Mycroft said:
@Nickenzie said:
Wolf74 said:@Nickenzie said:
As a Pig main, games are usually 5 minutes long if the survivors are extremely competitive but otherwise, your looking at 10 to 20 minutes games. A lot of killer's say "2 minute" games but even myself with 600 hours haven't had a game where all generators are powered on in 2 minutes.
All 4 survivor jump on different gens asap (5-10 sec)
Only one survivor can get chased at a time, everyone else stick to his gen.
60-80 seconds later 3 gens should be done and the first victim hooked.
Now either a) killer is camping and the remaining gens will be done in another 60-80 sec or b) killer is not camping -> free unhook and heal -> repeat the above.
= 120 - 160 seconds to do all gen
This leaves another 1- 2 minutes to open the gates and you are still way under 5 min.
Okay, that's all cool and all but it's easier said than done. LINK me a generator rush video that shows all generators being powered on in 2 minutes!
Challenge accepted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=67&v=rJqFxk8U0OY
Gens got powered in 2:57.
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@Delfador said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Mycroft said:
@shadowsfall42 said:
So what will happen when basically 99% of killers opt out of swf? Matchmaking will take so long that survivors will just jump ship. Thereby killing the game.
So, it seems to me there is a bigger issue that needs to be dealt with. If so many people are not wanting to do it maybe there's a problem. And we can stop trying to force people against their will to endure that unbalanced torturous mechanic
Theres thousands of people playing the game and not coming here to moan about it, just because 8 people in a forum constantly cry and moan about SWF does not mean the rest of the people hate it enough to warrant it's removal - it will also kill the game which seems to be killers hidden agendas.
This isn't actually a good answer to him because you still couldn't address the core issue.
If only 8 people in a forum cries and moans about it and the rest of the killer community is okay with SWFs, opting out is not that big of a problem since SWFs will find games easily. Only 8 people will opt out it.
This is not the case though. Although only 5-10 people in the forum mention SWF, almost every single killer playing the game has problems with SWF groups. So everybody will prefer non SWF games. Why does everybody prefers non SWF games though?
He is pointing out that if all of the killers have problems with SWF, there is something wrong with it. Why should killers endure unbalanced games etc.
I don't like the idea because it is gonna kill the game. Playing an unbalanced game is better than not playing it imo. I don't have any solutions for that but I feel like @Mycroft is right here
Except why would you opt into harder gameplay.
People just wouldn't do it and it would kill that game, seriously how does no one understand that theres thousands of casual players that just hang out with their friends and play just to relax.They don't make reddit posts, they don't make forum accounts, they don't say anything in chat, they just leave and queue for the next game.
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@Global said:
maybe we should review bomb the game until they fix the toxicity.Yea - lets ban all "toxic" survivors and "killers".
I think it's hilarious people find T-Bagging "Toxic". It's absolutely hilarious - it's been around for decades, but apparently this murder simulators fan base is too sensitive to some pixels moving up and down.
Also, camping isn't toxic, neither is "tunneling" - It's part of the game, get over it, you're supposed to kill people. Unless you're going into the same match one after the other and targeting the same person then you can get screwed.
You all seriously need to look at what this game and get off your snowflake rides, it's a murder simulator, if a "Get good" or "EZ" in end game chat gets you so riled up you report them then you need to move onto Barbie World.
If getting tunneled in a match is enough for you to get so riled up you report them then again, you need to move onto Barbie World.
Both. Sides. Are. "Toxic".
If someone is continually targeting you, and harassing you after the match THAT IS TOXIC.
Theres obvious gameplay things that are toxic, mori spam, unhook spam animation, all sorts of ######### but tbagging, gg ez, camping & tunneling are so far from toxic.
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@Master said:
@meshugganah said:
it will never happen. the first requirment would be to define what is toxic. that will never be agreed upon and thus the conversation is stuck at step 1.If the devs would hand out punishments for people violating the TOS, that would be enough already.
https://www.easy.ac/en-us/support/dbd/guides/whitelist/
This is the easy anti-cheat Whitelist for DBD - see that application "Curse-Voice" that's a voice client that has been whitelisted for use in DBD.
Please, lets have this conversation where you think Discord is breaking the TOS because it's a "Third Party Program".
You know what else is a third party program that isn't listen in the TOS? Steam, you know another 3RD party program that isn't listed in the TOS? My audio application that supplies audio to my headphones, I guess having audio is cheating too because it's not in the TOS. -
@Mycroft said:
@shadowsfall42 said:
So what will happen when basically 99% of killers opt out of swf? Matchmaking will take so long that survivors will just jump ship. Thereby killing the game.
So, it seems to me there is a bigger issue that needs to be dealt with. If so many people are not wanting to do it maybe there's a problem. And we can stop trying to force people against their will to endure that unbalanced torturous mechanic
Theres thousands of people playing the game and not coming here to moan about it, just because 8 people in a forum constantly cry and moan about SWF does not mean the rest of the people hate it enough to warrant it's removal - it will also kill the game which seems to be killers hidden agendas.
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@HellDescent said:
@Grey87 not when you are constantly swarmed by all 3 survivors with insta-heals.Said the deranking killer.
No one is swarming you and insta healing 3 at a time, you seem to record a crap tonne of your stuff, wheres the 3 man insta heal body block squad, or do you make things up to try and justify your cheating?
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@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
@gamerx42z said:
So I've been playing on and off for a few months started playing more when it became a plus game. The one thing that's really been bugging me is I often will get matched up with rank 2 SWF groups when I'm a rank 15 killer. Seriously it's happened twice in an hour at this point.The matchmaking is very unbalanced when SWF comes up and they should not be facing killers in the newbie ranks, I'd really like to see an option to opt out of SWF completely. Give killers who opt into SWF double bp or some other incentive maybe.
I'm sick of swf. I came up with temporary solution for myself, to blow off some steam. Its in the description.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKHa6EL3Ls0
This has been addressed so many times but devs refuse to do make it happen.Intentionally playing against new survivors so you can then bully - very admirable of yourself.
Absolute embarrassment, i've seen three killer mains talk about intentionally deranking now, and they're all incredibly vocal about balance. I'd love to speak to the newer players you intend to bully and see if they thinks it's fair and balanced they'll have to play against people who know all the mechanics of the game.Its actually funny, but the new players that get "rekt" actually enjoy these kind of games. They type gg and well played and ask for tipps. I had some really nice conversation and even have some new friends now.
Survivors only feel bullied when they played the game long enough to get entitled to wins, but then cant win.
The only survivors that blamed me for tunneling/camping and the usual stuff were the red rank SWF mates queueing with their low rank plebs to verse low rank killers. Yes, those kind of guys will regret being in my game and I will do everything to kill them
You can continue to lie and make excuses for your deranking.
It's still against the rules as far as I'm aware.BUT HEY, you need easy matches to feel satisfied, that's fine kiddo.
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@gamerx42z said:
To be fair I've never once even been past rank 15. I actually struggle to get even 1 kill at rank 15 against players my own rank so that's about my current skill level. So not all of us who complain about swf derankAlso most lobbies I host as killer 3-4 people all join within about a second of each other. So its hard to tell if they are SWF from that or not. If I actually lobby dodged each time 3 or 4 people joined at the same time I'd be dodging for 10+ minutes at least..
When I play solo i constantly load in with survivors at the same time - it's not at all a reliable tell, tbh.
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@Mycroft said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Mycroft said:
Survivors ds in my matches qll the time. Hear Nurse one time and poof.Killers dodge my solo lobbies all the time, one item and poof, gone.
Killers dodge my games all the time, backwater swamp, no chance, hillbilly on lerys, not a chance.Killers & Survivors DC all the same, lets not pretend it's one sided.
Dodging and DCing are not the same. Don't conflate the two.
DCing still happens on both sides.
And dodging is arguably just as annoying when you queue up and wait 5 minutes for a match to find only to be dodged because someone has a medkit on, or there's a Claudette in the lobby -
@Mycroft said:
Survivors ds in my matches qll the time. Hear Nurse one time and poof.Killers dodge my solo lobbies all the time, one item and poof, gone.
Killers dodge my games all the time, backwater swamp, no chance, hillbilly on lerys, not a chance.Killers & Survivors DC all the same, lets not pretend it's one sided.
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@Tsulan said:
SenzuDuck said:@HellDescent said:
@gamerx42z said:
So I've been playing on and off for a few months started playing more when it became a plus game. The one thing that's really been bugging me is I often will get matched up with rank 2 SWF groups when I'm a rank 15 killer. Seriously it's happened twice in an hour at this point.
The matchmaking is very unbalanced when SWF comes up and they should not be facing killers in the newbie ranks, I'd really like to see an option to opt out of SWF completely. Give killers who opt into SWF double bp or some other incentive maybe.
I'm sick of swf. I came up with temporary solution for myself, to blow off some steam. Its in the description.
This has been addressed so many times but devs refuse to do make it happen.
Intentionally playing against new survivors so you can then bully - very admirable of yourself.
Absolute embarrassment, i've seen three killer mains talk about intentionally deranking now, and they're all incredibly vocal about balance. I'd love to speak to the newer players you intend to bully and see if they thinks it's fair and balanced they'll have to play against people who know all the mechanics of the game.
I agree with you. Both sides have been incredibly toxic. I've seen killers depip to stomp noobs and SWF deathsquads depip to bully noobs. All during a f2p weekend half a year ago. I made several threads on the steam forum. How ashamed I'm of our community. Because new players shouldn't be matched with veterans. That it's also bad for the overall health of the game. Since we always need new players. Which get spooked away.
Back then I proposed noob ranks. Now we got them. I would have implemented something more elaborated. But it's better than nothing.
SWF matchmaking should always match for the highest rank player. Not the lowest rank. It's being abused to match red ranks against grey rank killers.
I honestly don't care if they make it so 4-Man swfs are forced to play against only rank 1-5 killers, I don't have an issue with SWF - I always play against them and I don't dodge because I believe if I play against them it'll make me a better killer.
But to complain about toxicity/Bullying from both sides (killer/survivor) to then intentionally derank and then come to the forums to complain about which side you hate the most you just have no right.
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@thesuicidefox said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@thesuicidefox said:
Just to make a point, HybridPanda posted some Freddy games today and he got bodied 1 game, and then a 3k in both other games.His first game was a mess, he used Class Photo with no blocks or paint brush to offset it AND he didn't even use it to find his obsession for RM tokens. Had he done that he could have easily got a few kills that game. He also continuously failed at loops, didn't hug walls or optimize at all which you have to do as Freddy if you want to catch people that loop (or at least play proper mindgames, which he didn't do).
His next game he played smarter and used his CP to catch people, and he played BW really well so he got 3 kills. Had he just gone for Jake first near the gate at the end instead of Bill he could have downed Jake, then went back and got Bill, took Bill's hook first and still be able to grab Jake before he got out (plus the Kate that was down across the map). It would have been a 4k.
Last game he could have just slugged Meg for a bit to look for Claud. He had the game on lock down, 2 gens left with DL and only 2 survivors. They would play super immersed and just let the other die, so you need to drag it out. Could have still been a 3k, but he could have 4k'd. He also totally could have played the basement part way better by not downing the Meg. He almost could have lost too because he kept trying to go around the loop, but he had paint brush which makes you Hag slow. But his TR is tiny, that's how he snuck up on them so much, if he played THAT mindgame he could have had Dwight dead at 4 gens left easy.
So we have 3 games where he potentially could have 4k'd if he either 1> used a better build (his 3rd game was the strongest of the 3 which is why I keep saying Freddy is better at gen lockdown and not an end game), 2> made better decisions (chase non-obsession half the game when you can see everyone and you have RM?!?), and 3> just flat out played better and optimized. If I can point to the exact things he did wrong you can't exactly say it's the killer. Is Freddy a HARD killer to play? Yes. Is he a WEAK killer to play? Eh... depends on some things. I won't deny he has some major drawbacks, but he has potential to be crazy powerful too.
If panda had BW3 he'd have probably out played them all.
People aren't willing to put in time to practice so when they do go and play their one off matches with these killers it's obviously the survivors being toxic or lame game mechanics that stops them from pipping.
Yea not having BW3 really hurt him. Funny how he uses it all the time but doesn't have it tier 3 on the killer whose perk it is. LOL
Well - I probably wouldn't use points on a killer if I disliked them as much as panda dislikes freddy.
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@HellDescent said:
I've never dc'dI like how out of everything I said you picked out the bit where i said dc instead of deranking. My bad, lol.
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@HellDescent said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
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You complain about DC'ers yet you're a self confessed deranker, so not only are bullying low rank players by punching below your weight you're also moaning and making screenshots of it too? jfc, hilarious.
You have any proof of me "bullying survivors"? And 2 I refuse to play fair vs swf
"any proof"
like the proof that you've deranked in this screenshot and are playing against 3 people who don't even have full perk slots yet and the other who only has one perk at level 3.So does my wraith at level one. How is it exactly bullying? If you don't have to say anything about the topic of this discussion you should keep your thoughts to yourself , go to a survivor page of the forum and complain about the killers there.
If the people you're playing against so toxic why would they intentionally play their lower levelled survivors ohhhh waiiiiit maybe they're actually low levelled survivors and you need any excuse to be as toxic as possible
It's honestly so embarrassing how often i come across deranking killers that think it's fair to play against newer survivors
Like I watched your clown gameplay, and you're just not very good at all - I couldn't count the amount of times you missed hitting a survivor directly in front of you, it was hilarious.
Glad your highness enjoyed
You intentionally derank and still do poorly because you're just not that good - this is a prime example of someone complaining about something not because it has bad design, or the survivors are too strong. It's just you're not as good as you think you are and blame mechanics/survivors when you do bad.
It's ok - at rank 15/20 you can bully all the survivors you want and maybe one day you'll be better.
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@HellDescent said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
...You complain about DC'ers yet you're a self confessed deranker, so not only are bullying low rank players by punching below your weight you're also moaning and making screenshots of it too? jfc, hilarious.
You have any proof of me "bullying survivors"? And 2 I refuse to play fair vs swf
"any proof"
like the proof that you've deranked in this screenshot and are playing against 3 people who don't even have full perk slots yet and the other who only has one perk at level 3.So does my wraith at level one. How is it exactly bullying? If you don't have to say anything about the topic of this discussion you should keep your thoughts to yourself , go to a survivor page of the forum and complain about the killers there.
If the people you're playing against so toxic why would they intentionally play their lower levelled survivors ohhhh waiiiiit maybe they're actually low levelled survivors and you need any excuse to be as toxic as possible
It's honestly so embarrassing how often i come across deranking killers that think it's fair to play against newer survivors
Like I watched your clown gameplay, and you're just not very good at all - I couldn't count the amount of times you missed hitting a survivor directly in front of you, it was hilarious.
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@HellDescent said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
...You complain about DC'ers yet you're a self confessed deranker, so not only are bullying low rank players by punching below your weight you're also moaning and making screenshots of it too? jfc, hilarious.
You have any proof of me "bullying survivors"? And 2 I refuse to play fair vs swf
"any proof"
like the proof that you've deranked in this screenshot and are playing against 3 people who don't even have full perk slots yet and the other who only has one perk at level 3. -
@HellDescent said:
So you are telling me that bodyblocking, tbagging, coms are encouraged in the game and are considered skills??What has this actually got to do with any of my points? You dc to bully new players while complaining about yourself being bullied by toxic survivors.
If you get upset about tbagging then no one can really help you.
Body blocking is absolutely encouraged, thats why you get tokens in WGLF when you take a hit while someone is on the killers shoulder.
again with the swf stuff, just play better - I play swf and dont use coms, but i guarantee if we still played against each other you'd complain about swf anyways.
if you play well the swf doesn't matter.
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@HellDescent said:
...You complain about DC'ers yet you're a self confessed deranker, so not only are bullying low rank players by punching below your weight you're also moaning and making screenshots of it too? jfc, hilarious.
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@thesuicidefox said:
Just to make a point, HybridPanda posted some Freddy games today and he got bodied 1 game, and then a 3k in both other games.His first game was a mess, he used Class Photo with no blocks or paint brush to offset it AND he didn't even use it to find his obsession for RM tokens. Had he done that he could have easily got a few kills that game. He also continuously failed at loops, didn't hug walls or optimize at all which you have to do as Freddy if you want to catch people that loop (or at least play proper mindgames, which he didn't do).
His next game he played smarter and used his CP to catch people, and he played BW really well so he got 3 kills. Had he just gone for Jake first near the gate at the end instead of Bill he could have downed Jake, then went back and got Bill, took Bill's hook first and still be able to grab Jake before he got out (plus the Kate that was down across the map). It would have been a 4k.
Last game he could have just slugged Meg for a bit to look for Claud. He had the game on lock down, 2 gens left with DL and only 2 survivors. They would play super immersed and just let the other die, so you need to drag it out. Could have still been a 3k, but he could have 4k'd. He also totally could have played the basement part way better by not downing the Meg. He almost could have lost too because he kept trying to go around the loop, but he had paint brush which makes you Hag slow. But his TR is tiny, that's how he snuck up on them so much, if he played THAT mindgame he could have had Dwight dead at 4 gens left easy.
So we have 3 games where he potentially could have 4k'd if he either 1> used a better build (his 3rd game was the strongest of the 3 which is why I keep saying Freddy is better at gen lockdown and not an end game), 2> made better decisions (chase non-obsession half the game when you can see everyone and you have RM?!?), and 3> just flat out played better and optimized. If I can point to the exact things he did wrong you can't exactly say it's the killer. Is Freddy a HARD killer to play? Yes. Is he a WEAK killer to play? Eh... depends on some things. I won't deny he has some major drawbacks, but he has potential to be crazy powerful too.
If panda had BW3 he'd have probably out played them all.
People aren't willing to put in time to practice so when they do go and play their one off matches with these killers it's obviously the survivors being toxic or lame game mechanics that stops them from pipping.
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@HellDescent said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
@gamerx42z said:
So I've been playing on and off for a few months started playing more when it became a plus game. The one thing that's really been bugging me is I often will get matched up with rank 2 SWF groups when I'm a rank 15 killer. Seriously it's happened twice in an hour at this point.The matchmaking is very unbalanced when SWF comes up and they should not be facing killers in the newbie ranks, I'd really like to see an option to opt out of SWF completely. Give killers who opt into SWF double bp or some other incentive maybe.
I'm sick of swf. I came up with temporary solution for myself, to blow off some steam. Its in the description.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKHa6EL3Ls0
This has been addressed so many times but devs refuse to do make it happen.Intentionally playing against new survivors so you can then bully - very admirable of yourself.
Absolute embarrassment, i've seen three killer mains talk about intentionally deranking now, and they're all incredibly vocal about balance. I'd love to speak to the newer players you intend to bully and see if they thinks it's fair and balanced they'll have to play against people who know all the mechanics of the game.I am talking about toxic swf squads, not the people who play the game the way its intended to.
Right, and do you just assume everyone is a 4 man squad then?
Lets not pretend you're going to play "fair" you'll just assume everyone is SWF and play the best you can regardless.New players don't want to go against "experienced" killers that are "going easy" on them - they want to play and learn.
at this points according to most killers on this forum just doing gens is toxic, it's hilarious.
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@HellDescent said:
@gamerx42z said:
So I've been playing on and off for a few months started playing more when it became a plus game. The one thing that's really been bugging me is I often will get matched up with rank 2 SWF groups when I'm a rank 15 killer. Seriously it's happened twice in an hour at this point.The matchmaking is very unbalanced when SWF comes up and they should not be facing killers in the newbie ranks, I'd really like to see an option to opt out of SWF completely. Give killers who opt into SWF double bp or some other incentive maybe.
I'm sick of swf. I came up with temporary solution for myself, to blow off some steam. Its in the description.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKHa6EL3Ls0
This has been addressed so many times but devs refuse to do make it happen.Intentionally playing against new survivors so you can then bully - very admirable of yourself.
Absolute embarrassment, i've seen three killer mains talk about intentionally deranking now, and they're all incredibly vocal about balance. I'd love to speak to the newer players you intend to bully and see if they thinks it's fair and balanced they'll have to play against people who know all the mechanics of the game. -
@powerbats said:
@Orion said:
@HookedonDemand said:
The whole gen rushing thing confuses me. Isn't finishing the gens literally the only thing survivors need to do to escape ? Why would they wait, to take in the scenery ? It's like complaining that the killer starts killing right away...
Gen rush exists due to a lack of objectives, yes. This isn't a player problem; it's a game design problem. That's why many players - on both sides - want more objectives for the Survivors.
This^ and most of us want and wouldn't mind having to scrounge for parts and or gas as a means to break the monotony. Sicne it's boring as feck to sit there and hold M1 for 80 seconds usually (pc). If they'd just add either or both of those objectives games would last longer and both sides would have a lot more fun.
You'd get more bp of course and killer wouldn't feel like they had to play Nurse/Billy and now Hag or run NOED/RUIN. You'd see a lot more builds getting used on both sides since maps would come into play to find stuff.
Small game or Plunderers Instinct depending on what category gas/parts fell under or perhaps both. The killers could use different perks to track the stuff perhaps from salvage piles. If you're running around well parts could be lost so you have to go back for more. The gas would be same way, run to that gen you lose a % of gas each step.
To really make it interesting you could make the gas be siphoned with skill checks from some of the cars or gas cans etc. If you fail you get an explosion and or lose the gas up to that skill check point etc.
Thankfully they mantioned something else about addiotional objectives in the last Q&A.
Another thing they need to do is remove the useless cap that both killer and survivors have on their 4 emblems, let everyone earn more if everyone has to do more.
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@HookedonDemand said:
The whole gen rushing thing confuses me. Isn't finishing the gens literally the only thing survivors need to do to escape ? Why would they wait, to take in the scenery ? It's like complaining that the killer starts killing right away...Maybe at the start of the match everyone should stand around for 5 minutes and then start working - sounds good.
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@Incarnate said:
@SenzuDuck said:
You clearly have no idea my friend - do you know how absolutely disorientating and puke inducing it would be to constantly change fov while playing the game?Not to mention anyone with motion sickness can now not play this game. I know people that can't play nurse because of what happens when shes blinking and you want this to happen on the constant? Jeeeeeze dude.
That certainly depends on how fast those changes in FOV happens. But either way, I'm just point out that they can make changes to the FOV so it's more limited, the changing FOV was just a suggestion on how they could change it.
@SenzuDuck said:
You know when you get thos hay bails that are close to each other, and you're inbetween them, if the survivor is in first person how do they see anything? They'd be staring straight into the wall of the hay bail.Not to mention pallets are all based on timing, you can't predict anything as a survivor in first person.
Why should you be able to see something you shouldn't? If something blocks your view then you're not supposed to see what it blocks. But again, peeking should be implement.
In regards to pallets, why shouldn't you be able to predict when to drop the pallet just because your vision is in first person perspective?
I really don't think you understand what a fuster cluck this game would be if survivor can't see anything just say it out loud.
Survivor. Cant. See. Anything.
like theres a reason they're in third person, it's not about "ohh but if they can't see it they shouldn't be able to".Everyone would run around M&A Scratched mirror myers and no one would win because you cant play against that, peeking doesn't help in a chase, it doesn't help when you're in corridors, it just wouldn't work my dude.
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@Incarnate said:
@Delfador said:
Killers are able to see in front of themselves which they need to.Survivors need to be able to see behind in order to avoid the killer. Survivors need to be able to see their environment in order to lead the chase to somewhere else. This is why they need 3rd person view.
Killers on the other hand will always follow survivors.
There is a massive difference between them.
Actually, they don't need to be able to see the killer to avoid the killer through 3rd person perspective, they just need to play differently. Even with 1st person perspective, they could easily lead the chase somewhere else.
You know when you get thos hay bails that are close to each other, and you're inbetween them, if the survivor is in first person how do they see anything? They'd be staring straight into the wall of the hay bail.
Not to mention pallets are all based on timing, you can't predict anything as a survivor in first person.
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@Global said:
@Delfador said:
@Global said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Global said:
@SenzuDuck said:
You know people are bonkers when they think this game would ever work if both perspectives were in 1st person, or they were switched.How would you ever counter Myers if you can't peek corners.
How would you counter huntress if you can't dodge hatchets.
How would you counter billy if you can't look behind you.
How would you counter clown if you can't see where his bottles are thrown.
How would you counter hag if you can't look around for traps.
How would you counter nurse if you can't try and predict where shes aiming.
How would you counter trapper if you can't look around for his traps.
How would you counter wraith if you can't predict which side of the wall he's going to charge at.How fun would it be to stare at a generator while you're doing it.
How fun would it be to stare in front of you on the hook and not look around to see if you're being rescued so you can prepare.
How would would it be to heal a survivor and stare straight into their back not knowing if a killer is coming
How fun would it be to be hit by a killer and get that speed burst without being able to control it properly.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A list of things that people who support this idea will think don't matter because it makes the game easier for them.I certainly wouldn't want to play Myers and pull everyone off a gen as they don't have a fair chance.
I certainly wouldn't want to hit every hatchet I throw because the survivors don't have a fair chance.You get the picture.
You counter them the same way you do know...with decisive, sprint burst, and looping. But in all seriousness though if everything was in 1st person there would be alot less survivor nerfs than what they are making because they would actually need there perks as survivoring would be actually hard.
DS - Getting Nerfed
Sprint Burst - Nerfed (and all exhaustion perks)
Looping - Can't loop if you can't see the killer.Whether you like it or not looping is integral to the game, without looping survivors are forced to run in straight lines and be downed within 10 seconds.
DS doesn't counter being pulled off a gen at all, sprint burst doesn't counter anything if you can't see it coming.
Looping doesn't counter not being able to see sweet heck all mate.
Can you imagine thinking DS, Sprint Burst & Looping counter not being able to see anything, hilarious.
DS doesnt require seeing someone at all and i said DS wouldnt be nerfed because surviving would actually be hard. Killers cant see anything either they have an FOV of 87 and its hard to see with a flashlight in your face.
Killers are able to see in front of themselves which they need to.
Survivors need to be able to see behind in order to avoid the killer. Survivors need to be able to see their environment in order to lead the chase to somewhere else. This is why they need 3rd person view.
Killers on the other hand will always follow survivors.
There is a massive difference between them.
People should give up being killer or survivor main in this forum and try to be more reasonable. I don't say giving killers 3rd person view will break the game but if you give survivors 1st person view, it will kill the game easily.
It is not gonna happen If the devs don't want to gut their game.
Im not a main i play both sides even tho survivor is just boring pressing m1 in one place but even then its painfully obvious that survivors control the match.
Thanks for disputing my points, sir.
I think both sides are pretty easy if you put the effort into it, people want to be good with every killer but that means sharing your time and you wont be incredible with EVERY killer it just doesn't happen. I find people often play really well with one killer and then play with someone they aren't familiar with and blame it on mechanics or the survivors are "toxic". -
@Incarnate said:
@SenzuDuck said:
if killers saw in third person no one would be able to hide, and you know what that means, he killers that complain about survivors not juking wouldn't have a leg to stand on because how can you juke when the killer has a 360 degree view at all times.Who says it's going to be completely as it would be with the survivors 3rd person perspective, it could have a limited FOV - like being more narrow when moving, even more narrow in a chase, but more wide when standing still.
You clearly have no idea my friend - do you know how absolutely disorientating and puke inducing it would be to constantly change fov while playing the game?
Not to mention anyone with motion sickness can now not play this game. I know people that can't play nurse because of what happens when shes blinking and you want this to happen on the constant? Jeeeeeze dude.
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@Global said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Global said:
@SenzuDuck said:
You know people are bonkers when they think this game would ever work if both perspectives were in 1st person, or they were switched.How would you ever counter Myers if you can't peek corners.
How would you counter huntress if you can't dodge hatchets.
How would you counter billy if you can't look behind you.
How would you counter clown if you can't see where his bottles are thrown.
How would you counter hag if you can't look around for traps.
How would you counter nurse if you can't try and predict where shes aiming.
How would you counter trapper if you can't look around for his traps.
How would you counter wraith if you can't predict which side of the wall he's going to charge at.How fun would it be to stare at a generator while you're doing it.
How fun would it be to stare in front of you on the hook and not look around to see if you're being rescued so you can prepare.
How would would it be to heal a survivor and stare straight into their back not knowing if a killer is coming
How fun would it be to be hit by a killer and get that speed burst without being able to control it properly.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A list of things that people who support this idea will think don't matter because it makes the game easier for them.I certainly wouldn't want to play Myers and pull everyone off a gen as they don't have a fair chance.
I certainly wouldn't want to hit every hatchet I throw because the survivors don't have a fair chance.You get the picture.
You counter them the same way you do know...with decisive, sprint burst, and looping. But in all seriousness though if everything was in 1st person there would be alot less survivor nerfs than what they are making because they would actually need there perks as survivoring would be actually hard.
DS - Getting Nerfed
Sprint Burst - Nerfed (and all exhaustion perks)
Looping - Can't loop if you can't see the killer.Whether you like it or not looping is integral to the game, without looping survivors are forced to run in straight lines and be downed within 10 seconds.
DS doesn't counter being pulled off a gen at all, sprint burst doesn't counter anything if you can't see it coming.
Looping doesn't counter not being able to see sweet heck all mate.
Can you imagine thinking DS, Sprint Burst & Looping counter not being able to see anything, hilarious.
DS doesnt require seeing someone at all and i said DS wouldnt be nerfed because surviving would actually be hard. Killers cant see anything either they have an FOV of 87 and its hard to see with a flashlight in your face.
Oh dear, not everyone runs dstrike, as much as you want this to be true so you can complain to kingdom come it just isn't true.
Surviving is very easy without DS, you know what else is very easy? Killing people, you know what's even easier? Killing people who can't see where they're going.
Want to know why killers see in first person? because they kill people, they don't have to be stealthy, they go where ever they want when ever they want and kill people, put them on hooks and either camp or find someone else, if killers saw in third person no one would be able to hide, and you know what that means, he killers that complain about survivors not juking wouldn't have a leg to stand on because how can you juke when the killer has a 360 degree view at all times.
and again, AS MUCH AS YOU WANT IT TO BE TRUE not every survivor runs a flashlight and constantly uses it.
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@Global said:
@SenzuDuck said:
You know people are bonkers when they think this game would ever work if both perspectives were in 1st person, or they were switched.How would you ever counter Myers if you can't peek corners.
How would you counter huntress if you can't dodge hatchets.
How would you counter billy if you can't look behind you.
How would you counter clown if you can't see where his bottles are thrown.
How would you counter hag if you can't look around for traps.
How would you counter nurse if you can't try and predict where shes aiming.
How would you counter trapper if you can't look around for his traps.
How would you counter wraith if you can't predict which side of the wall he's going to charge at.How fun would it be to stare at a generator while you're doing it.
How fun would it be to stare in front of you on the hook and not look around to see if you're being rescued so you can prepare.
How would would it be to heal a survivor and stare straight into their back not knowing if a killer is coming
How fun would it be to be hit by a killer and get that speed burst without being able to control it properly.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A list of things that people who support this idea will think don't matter because it makes the game easier for them.I certainly wouldn't want to play Myers and pull everyone off a gen as they don't have a fair chance.
I certainly wouldn't want to hit every hatchet I throw because the survivors don't have a fair chance.You get the picture.
You counter them the same way you do know...with decisive, sprint burst, and looping. But in all seriousness though if everything was in 1st person there would be alot less survivor nerfs than what they are making because they would actually need there perks as survivoring would be actually hard.
DS - Getting Nerfed
Sprint Burst - Nerfed (and all exhaustion perks)
Looping - Can't loop if you can't see the killer.Whether you like it or not looping is integral to the game, without looping survivors are forced to run in straight lines and be downed within 10 seconds.
DS doesn't counter being pulled off a gen at all, sprint burst doesn't counter anything if you can't see it coming.
Looping doesn't counter not being able to see sweet heck all mate.
At what point do you just say "Maybe I'm just not very good at this game" and stop asking for nerfs that are entirely game breaking.Can you imagine thinking DS, Sprint Burst & Looping counter not being able to see anything, hilarious.
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@Master said:
Both should play 1st person IMO, this ist he only way how a real horror game can work.
never gonna happen though, devs even are scared of changing SC after the review bombsI think they said they just wanted to make all healing longer in general. There's plenty of addons and perks that counter healing.
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@MegaWaffle said:
@SenzuDuck said:
Cosmetics that nobody needs - everyone played without them before they came out, game works the same.Grind. pay or don't use them.
Cosmetics add a reason to keep playing. Its good to have a goal to grind towards but if its too much then you lose interest.
I've had this game since day 1 and have almost everyone P3 with perk builds. If there were no cosmetic items I'd have gotten way more burnt out than I am now.
I played this game for 2K hours before the cosmetics came out, so did many others. If people weren't grinding out cosmetics they'd be grinding out perks anyway.
If they made the "grind" too easy and quick then people would leave anyway.
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You know people are bonkers when they think this game would ever work if both perspectives were in 1st person, or they were switched.
How would you ever counter Myers if you can't peek corners.
How would you counter huntress if you can't dodge hatchets.
How would you counter billy if you can't look behind you.
How would you counter clown if you can't see where his bottles are thrown.
How would you counter hag if you can't look around for traps.
How would you counter nurse if you can't try and predict where shes aiming.
How would you counter trapper if you can't look around for his traps.
How would you counter wraith if you can't predict which side of the wall he's going to charge at.How fun would it be to stare at a generator while you're doing it.
How fun would it be to stare in front of you on the hook and not look around to see if you're being rescued so you can prepare.
How would would it be to heal a survivor and stare straight into their back not knowing if a killer is coming
How fun would it be to be hit by a killer and get that speed burst without being able to control it properly.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A list of things that people who support this idea will think don't matter because it makes the game easier for them.I certainly wouldn't want to play Myers and pull everyone off a gen as they don't have a fair chance.
I certainly wouldn't want to hit every hatchet I throw because the survivors don't have a fair chance.You get the picture.
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Cosmetics that nobody needs - everyone played without them before they came out, game works the same.
Grind, pay or don't use them.
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It would be rather annoying with a doctor build.
50% Longer Snap Out of It.
50% more skill checks (So 3 - 5)
Tiny/Random Skillcheck showing anywhere on the screen.That does sound frustratingly un-fun.
But if they wanna try then go for it tbh.
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I wanna play her ASAP too.
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@Peanits said:
For leatherface, I think it would be awesome to have an add-on that slowly reduces your terror radius while you have your chainsaw charged, eventually to the point where your terror radius to 0 (after 10 seconds or so of charging it), making the chainsaw silent as well. Then you can sneak up behind someone, scare the hell out of them, and stand a good chance at getting an instant down as well.For hillbilly, ¯_(ツ)_/¯
What do you get a guy that already has everything?This actually sounds incredibly fun for leather face.
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@RSB said:
That is the response I knew you will write, lad. You, your kind, are all the same. I just won't bother replying to you, because in your mind you are the best, most smart, always right special snowflake.GG, boy.
136 IQ
I always say I'm average at this game if you ever actually read my comments, I can also get better.
and that fact you keep mentioning IQ and being smart, you were the first person I've ever seen mention IQ on this forum so lets not act as if intelligence has ever come into question until you brought it up.
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@RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said:
RSB said:@SenzuDuck said:
RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said: @PinkEricka
Lets not forget you're arguing with someone who is limited on the forums, he's proven that he is toxic or the mods wouldn't have put limits on him. I said DS cancel wasn't an exploit and he still argued with me saying I said it was an exploit. Honestly don't waste your time on him. @SenzuDuck said:
RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said: @PinkEricka
Lets not forget you're arguing with someone who is limited on the forums, he's proven that he is toxic or the mods wouldn't have put limits on him.
I said DS cancel wasn't an exploit and he still argued with me saying I said it was an exploit. Honestly don't waste your time on him. Tell that to your blocked friend, hypocrite. I do not see you talking about him this way. What blocked friend? Lmao - when are you goinnto reply to that post about DS where you blatantly only joined the conversation to attack me?
You clearly enjoy attacking me and i think you need to move on. "STAHP MATTACKING ME, I'M SO PURE, WHAT DID I DO TO YOU ;-;" Hypocrite. Yes, I enjoy "attacking" you, because you are so precious. Not mentioning you started attacking me in this thread, and when I talked back, you started with "why are you hurting my feelings ;-;" #########. If you do not want people to talk back, then simply do not start argues, silly thing.
I told someone not to bother arguing with you - I didn’t even tag you, lol.
"I DID NOT TAG YOU, SO THIS DOES NOT COUNTS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL" - 2001 IQ
Also never actually said you should stop attacking me, learn what hypocrite means before you throw it around, bud.
Hypocrite - when you do the same thing, that you ######### about.
Whos my friend again? You never actually said.
I WON'T TAG HIM, SO IT WON'T COUNT LOLOLOLOLOLO
So precious? Remember when at the start of a thread a made a post about DS cancelling not being an exploit, and then you simply skipped that part of the post, went on a rant about how I think DS cancelling is an exploit and then I had to screenshot the part of where I agreed with you, show you and thren you never replied, now that is precious.
Yeah, sure, whatever you say, buddy. https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/121990#Comment_121990 - this is said thread. Where did I went on a rant?
@RSB
"I DID NOT TAG YOU, SO THIS DOES NOT COUNTS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL" - 2001 IQ
Well - warning someone not to argue with you isn’t attacking you. I WON'T TAG HIM, SO IT WON'T COUNT LOLOLOLOLOLWhat does this even mean? I’m asking who my so called friend is, you can say their name without tagging them, or are you making more stuff up to argue about?
this is said thread. Where did I went on a rant?
This bit, where you argue with me about DS, despite me agreeing earlier in the post
“So is not hitting while being DS'd, thank you, my unbiased, topskill friend with 2k IQ.“GG Bud.
GG bud.
This "2k IQ, unbiased friend" was a referrence to you post, where you call everyone noobs, say you are "getting 4k easily as a killer", and "git gud", but pretend not.
“Everyone” - you mean where I tell people that clearly aren’t very good at the game to play more and get better. I don’t call people noobs.
Yes, everyone not agreeing with you, my lord.
I also say get better, not get good.
...? Would you be happy, when someone said to you "I've copulated with your mother" instead of "I've ######### your mother"? Does that means difference to you?
Also - considering I made a post in that thread agreeing that DS cancelling isn’t an exploit why did you feel the need to make out like I said it is an exploit, oh yea because you don’t read the comments in the threads you just attack people.
I
Again, I said "my unbiased, topskill friend with 2k IQ." as a referrence to your other posts.@RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said:
RSB said:@SenzuDuck said:
RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said: @PinkEricka
Lets not forget you're arguing with someone who is limited on the forums, he's proven that he is toxic or the mods wouldn't have put limits on him. I said DS cancel wasn't an exploit and he still argued with me saying I said it was an exploit. Honestly don't waste your time on him. @SenzuDuck said:
RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said: @PinkEricka
Lets not forget you're arguing with someone who is limited on the forums, he's proven that he is toxic or the mods wouldn't have put limits on him.
I said DS cancel wasn't an exploit and he still argued with me saying I said it was an exploit. Honestly don't waste your time on him. Tell that to your blocked friend, hypocrite. I do not see you talking about him this way. What blocked friend? Lmao - when are you goinnto reply to that post about DS where you blatantly only joined the conversation to attack me?
You clearly enjoy attacking me and i think you need to move on. "STAHP MATTACKING ME, I'M SO PURE, WHAT DID I DO TO YOU ;-;" Hypocrite. Yes, I enjoy "attacking" you, because you are so precious. Not mentioning you started attacking me in this thread, and when I talked back, you started with "why are you hurting my feelings ;-;" #########. If you do not want people to talk back, then simply do not start argues, silly thing.
I told someone not to bother arguing with you - I didn’t even tag you, lol.
"I DID NOT TAG YOU, SO THIS DOES NOT COUNTS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL" - 2001 IQ
Also never actually said you should stop attacking me, learn what hypocrite means before you throw it around, bud.
Hypocrite - when you do the same thing, that you ######### about.
Whos my friend again? You never actually said.
I WON'T TAG HIM, SO IT WON'T COUNT LOLOLOLOLOLO
So precious? Remember when at the start of a thread a made a post about DS cancelling not being an exploit, and then you simply skipped that part of the post, went on a rant about how I think DS cancelling is an exploit and then I had to screenshot the part of where I agreed with you, show you and thren you never replied, now that is precious.
Yeah, sure, whatever you say, buddy. https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/121990#Comment_121990 - this is said thread. Where did I went on a rant?
@RSB
"I DID NOT TAG YOU, SO THIS DOES NOT COUNTS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL" - 2001 IQ
Well - warning someone not to argue with you isn’t attacking you. I WON'T TAG HIM, SO IT WON'T COUNT LOLOLOLOLOLWhat does this even mean? I’m asking who my so called friend is, you can say their name without tagging them, or are you making more stuff up to argue about?
this is said thread. Where did I went on a rant?
This bit, where you argue with me about DS, despite me agreeing earlier in the post
“So is not hitting while being DS'd, thank you, my unbiased, topskill friend with 2k IQ.“GG Bud.
GG bud.
This "2k IQ, unbiased friend" was a referrence to you post, where you call everyone noobs, say you are "getting 4k easily as a killer", and "git gud", but pretend not.
“Everyone” - you mean where I tell people that clearly aren’t very good at the game to play more and get better. I don’t call people noobs.
Yes, everyone not agreeing with you, my lord.
I also say get better, not get good.
...? Would you be happy, when someone said to you "I've copulated with your mother" instead of "I've ######### your mother"? Does that means difference to you?
Also - considering I made a post in that thread agreeing that DS cancelling isn’t an exploit why did you feel the need to make out like I said it is an exploit, oh yea because you don’t read the comments in the threads you just attack people.
I
Again, I said "my unbiased, topskill friend with 2k IQ." as a referrence to your other posts.Yes, everyone not agreeing with you, my lord.
It’s perfectly fine to disagree with me, but people saying killer is impossible are just bad at the game.
...? Would you be happy, when someone said to you "I've copulated with your mother" instead of "I've ######### your mother"? Does that means difference to you?
Only you could get so upset that you think this is an appropriate response.
One is supposed to encourage you to play better (mine)
One is supposed to outright insult and offended (yours)
Not even remotely comparable but this is coming from someone with forum restrictions.
Again, I said "my unbiased, topskill friend with 2k IQ." as a referrence to your other posts
That’s cool and all but you still made it out like I thought DS cancelling was an exploit because you don’t read threads and just attack.
GG Honey.
Unbiased
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I’ve not seen it yet.
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@RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said:
RSB said:@SenzuDuck said:
RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said: @PinkEricka
Lets not forget you're arguing with someone who is limited on the forums, he's proven that he is toxic or the mods wouldn't have put limits on him. I said DS cancel wasn't an exploit and he still argued with me saying I said it was an exploit. Honestly don't waste your time on him. @SenzuDuck said:
RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said: @PinkEricka
Lets not forget you're arguing with someone who is limited on the forums, he's proven that he is toxic or the mods wouldn't have put limits on him.
I said DS cancel wasn't an exploit and he still argued with me saying I said it was an exploit. Honestly don't waste your time on him. Tell that to your blocked friend, hypocrite. I do not see you talking about him this way. What blocked friend? Lmao - when are you goinnto reply to that post about DS where you blatantly only joined the conversation to attack me?
You clearly enjoy attacking me and i think you need to move on. "STAHP MATTACKING ME, I'M SO PURE, WHAT DID I DO TO YOU ;-;" Hypocrite. Yes, I enjoy "attacking" you, because you are so precious. Not mentioning you started attacking me in this thread, and when I talked back, you started with "why are you hurting my feelings ;-;" #########. If you do not want people to talk back, then simply do not start argues, silly thing.
I told someone not to bother arguing with you - I didn’t even tag you, lol.
"I DID NOT TAG YOU, SO THIS DOES NOT COUNTS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL" - 2001 IQ
Also never actually said you should stop attacking me, learn what hypocrite means before you throw it around, bud.
Hypocrite - when you do the same thing, that you ######### about.
Whos my friend again? You never actually said.
I WON'T TAG HIM, SO IT WON'T COUNT LOLOLOLOLOLO
So precious? Remember when at the start of a thread a made a post about DS cancelling not being an exploit, and then you simply skipped that part of the post, went on a rant about how I think DS cancelling is an exploit and then I had to screenshot the part of where I agreed with you, show you and thren you never replied, now that is precious.
Yeah, sure, whatever you say, buddy. https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/121990#Comment_121990 - this is said thread. Where did I went on a rant?
@RSB
"I DID NOT TAG YOU, SO THIS DOES NOT COUNTS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL" - 2001 IQ
Well - warning someone not to argue with you isn’t attacking you. I WON'T TAG HIM, SO IT WON'T COUNT LOLOLOLOLOLWhat does this even mean? I’m asking who my so called friend is, you can say their name without tagging them, or are you making more stuff up to argue about?
this is said thread. Where did I went on a rant?
This bit, where you argue with me about DS, despite me agreeing earlier in the post
“So is not hitting while being DS'd, thank you, my unbiased, topskill friend with 2k IQ.“GG Bud.
GG bud.
This "2k IQ, unbiased friend" was a referrence to you post, where you call everyone noobs, say you are "getting 4k easily as a killer", and "git gud", but pretend not.
“Everyone” - you mean where I tell people that clearly aren’t very good at the game to play more and get better. I don’t call people noobs.
I also say get better, not get good.
Also - considering I made a post in that thread agreeing that DS cancelling isn’t an exploit why did you feel the need to make out like I said it is an exploit, oh yea because you don’t read the comments in the threads you just attack people.
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@RSBRSB said:@SenzuDuck said:
RSB said:@SenzuDuck said:
Lets not forget you're arguing with someone who is limited on the forums, he's proven that he is toxic or the mods wouldn't have put limits on him. I said DS cancel wasn't an exploit and he still argued with me saying I said it was an exploit. Honestly don't waste your time on him. @SenzuDuck said:
RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said: @PinkEricka
Lets not forget you're arguing with someone who is limited on the forums, he's proven that he is toxic or the mods wouldn't have put limits on him.
I said DS cancel wasn't an exploit and he still argued with me saying I said it was an exploit. Honestly don't waste your time on him. Tell that to your blocked friend, hypocrite. I do not see you talking about him this way. What blocked friend? Lmao - when are you goinnto reply to that post about DS where you blatantly only joined the conversation to attack me?
You clearly enjoy attacking me and i think you need to move on.
"STAHP MATTACKING ME, I'M SO PURE, WHAT DID I DO TO YOU ;-;"
Hypocrite.
Yes, I enjoy "attacking" you, because you are so precious. Not mentioning you started attacking me in this thread, and when I talked back, you started with "why are you hurting my feelings ;-;" #########. If you do not want people to talk back, then simply do not start argues, silly thing.
I told someone not to bother arguing with you - I didn’t even tag you, lol.
"I DID NOT TAG YOU, SO THIS DOES NOT COUNTS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL" - 2001 IQ
Also never actually said you should stop attacking me, learn what hypocrite means before you throw it around, bud.
Hypocrite - when you do the same thing, that you ######### about.
Whos my friend again? You never actually said.
I WON'T TAG HIM, SO IT WON'T COUNT LOLOLOLOLOLO
So precious? Remember when at the start of a thread a made a post about DS cancelling not being an exploit, and then you simply skipped that part of the post, went on a rant about how I think DS cancelling is an exploit and then I had to screenshot the part of where I agreed with you, show you and thren you never replied, now that is precious.
Yeah, sure, whatever you say, buddy. https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/121990#Comment_121990 - this is said thread. Where did I went on a rant?
"I DID NOT TAG YOU, SO THIS DOES NOT COUNTS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL" - 2001 IQ
Well - warning someone not to argue with you isn’t attacking you.I WON'T TAG HIM, SO IT WON'T COUNT LOLOLOLOLOL
What does this even mean? I’m asking who my so called friend is, you can say their name without tagging them, or are you making more stuff up to argue about?
this is said thread. Where did I went on a rant?
This bit, where you argue with me about DS, despite me agreeing earlier in the post
“So is not hitting while being DS'd, thank you, my unbiased, topskill friend with 2k IQ.“
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I dont see why you keep bringing the doctor up, this isnt what this post os about, stop being so childish.Master said:
I don't see why using iridescent shouldn't be fun for the killerSenzuDuck said:@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
Iridescent Heads should go in my opinion.They aren't fun to play with, they aren't fun to play against.
Survivors DC with them, and honestly when I play a huntress match and finish the game within 2 minutes it's just not enjoyable, the BP you earn with them is trash too.Doctor isnt fun to play against apparently, survivors DC against him regularly, so we remove him from the game too?
Well, killers enjoy playing him so no, not really.
and comparing me saying iridescent heads aren't fun to use or play against and should be changed to removing an entire killer is the most childish response I've ever seen. Grow up.
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I was being sarcastic, lol.Vankruze said:@SenzuDuck said:
@Vankruze said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
Iridescent Heads should go in my opinion.They aren't fun to play with, they aren't fun to play against.
Survivors DC with them, and honestly when I play a huntress match and finish the game within 2 minutes it's just not enjoyable, the BP you earn with them is trash too.Doctor isnt fun to play against apparently, survivors DC against him regularly, so we remove him from the game too?
newbies can't stand the doctor because they can't hit skill checks and they struggle to get out of snap out of it. I've seen that a lot in the mid ranks too. Doc is terrible match up for newbies and players who are generally bad at the game.
yea but, Vankruze, didn't you see - I said I don't think iridescent heads are fun on either side so clearly that means I want Doctor removed, right?
I wasn't talking to you dude I was talking to Master. Wasn't that obvious? (I did quote him in the response lol not you)