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yup, iri head is still in the game but darn that ds amirite
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Survivors have been dealt one of the worst hands in all of dbd recently. You're just a lame non empathetic killer main.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743514#Comment_743514
Pc elitism now? No sense in continuing this discussion.
yikes dude.... Missing the point again... Whoooooshh. Not saying I dismiss all PS4 players just what you tend to say in the forums
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743471#Comment_743471
I am in red ranks, I still see good nurses. Your viewpoint of console players is jaded, I never once said she was as strong on console as she is on pc.
The fact that you think you can stalk people through corn means that if you CAN you're experiencing something completely different to PC players. If you're at red ranks while maining Leatherface that means your experience with killers is different to PC community. I've put 400+ hours into nurse so I know how difficult she is to learn fully on PC let alone how difficult it is to play on a controller. So I don't really consider your opinion to be of much value based on your experiences of the PS4 version of the game
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743436#Comment_743436
I don’t think that you get the point, I’ve put a lot of time into nurse, I stopped playing her for awhile but I do still pick her up. I’ve faced several really good nurse players, just because I’m not on pc doesn’t mean I can’t state my opinion.
I highly doubt your nurse players are usually at red ranks Or that alot of you are even really that decent with her on PS4. The real strength of the character lies on PC that's what you don't seem understand. You're opinion on the general strength of her is jaded since you don't experience her the same way we do.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743391#Comment_743391
Never said she was as strong as pc nurse, I don’t only play LF.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743384#Comment_743384
She really isn’t that uncommon on PS4 in my experience, considering you can learn nurse and make her the #1 killer on console, I think they did.
I don't think you're getting the point man. We're arguing about the overall strength of nurse where she's the strongest, where people player her the most, Which is PC. You're talking like you experience nurse the same way we do and that is wrong. Why? Because you don't play against PC nurse's. Case closed.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743332#Comment_743332
How do you know that I don’t play her ever? How do you not see how this affects PS4 nurse mains?
Who are you trying to kid. Every Dbd player knows that nurse on PS4 isn't anywhere near as strong as on PC. And we all know you in particular usually like to stick to the leatherface for some reason. Yes it affects you but if we're talking about HOW MUCH it affects you? Ummmmm not very much at all
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@Endstille said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/742975#Comment_742975
Prepare for the worst no more rare insta heal just Ultra rare :(
I want them all gone insta heals are garbage
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NEVER
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Well seems like people are thinking the same thing as me especially Anarchy. His power would be really strong if he just had a couple small tweaks to him. Like not letting people know when he's teleporting or extending the time to break portals or maybe increasing the radius to detect people. Honestly it feels clunky that you have to look around for where you can actually successfully put down a portal. Half the time you try to put down a portal and it won't let you especially in shack and corridors or near gens
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@Bleediss said:
Because people are convinced he's bad for whatever reason or they find him boring.
In my experience he's definitely not bad but there are better killers who do what he does better. Hag, Freddy or billy.
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@anarchy753 said:
He just isn't anything groundbreaking to me.
His portals are cumbersome, and while his pounce is decent in some situations, it's still a straight line attack that isn't hard to dodge.
I agree with you there. His portals are pretty hard to get to work especially when survivors can break them really quickly and easily. And his lunge is insanely easy to dodge so it makes shred super situational. His potential to be powerful is there but I personally haven't been impressed even with his buffs.
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@humanbeing1704 said:
but how does doing gens benefit the person being camped they die first hook with barely and points and don't rank up anyway
Stay on the hook and buy the team as much time as possible. The killer made a poor choice to camp and now you both get poor bloodpoints and both get a de-pip. Pretty mean yes but nonetheless not OP and definitely not what you want to do.
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@Raccoon said:
I, too, get frustrated when the Killer goes all out to kill me in a role that is literally about killing me.
When I hit 'Ready,' I know that I may have a boring game sitting on gens all game, may get camped out of the game, or I may have a game with 'normal' gameplay.
Some rounds are funner than others, just like some killers are 100% focused on securing a kill and others are not.
I know it's a crazy concept that every round / killer is not going to play the same way, but hey, why not try to hold someone else accountable for your own fun and gameplay experience?
It is the DBD way, after all.
See I have the same mentality as you. I agree with you whole heartedly. Being camped and tunnelled to death is absolutely not fun. Although I hate when there are times "camping or patrolling" is literally the best decision to make as killer and then players winge about it in endgame as if camping was the most OP strat in the game to secure a 4k.
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@altruistic said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/736691#Comment_736691
Okay. So I hope to never see a post here with you full of tears because of gens going off quick in your matches 😊.
You throw a random number out there and make it sound like a fact. It takes 4 minutes to kill someone! Congratulations. You’re a classic DBD forum poster 😀.
LOL Y I K E S. Looks like I've made someone feel a little spicy. "Random number and make it sound like a fact" I was being generous with my 4 minutes but I guess I should try to calm you down and say "It takes between 2 and an infinite amount of potential minutes to kill someone" there.
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@altruistic said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/736684#Comment_736684
Well it’s 2 minutes first of all. Unless the survivors complete 3 gens and ruin is gone before your first hook, you’re probably gonna get at least one more
I mean you're assuming no one will have ds or borrowed time which is real unlikely 4 minutes to get 1 kill is probably about right. 2 minutes if no one comes for the save. Dev's said it themselves if you feel like you're being camped best counter is to just DO GENS
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@brokedownpalace said:
Maybe if you need to camp you're just not that great of a killer 🤷 Get over it
Ummm yeah all good killers have a time and place they WILL camp. But yeah if I lose I'll get over it. That's just what you're meant to do right?
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@altruistic said:
Doing gens is a strat.
I hope you’re not the type of person to be upset about “gen rushing” when you’re “kill rushing.”
"Kill rushing" lol yeah don't mind you getting 5 gens completed while I wait 4 minutes to get 1 kill
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@LordGlint said:
Ppl would STILL consider the addon OP. Tru3 put out a video the other day using only that 1 addon and no perks, and it still lead to instant DCes and salt in the endgame chat.
Yeah I saw that. Say what you will abou tru3 but people can't deny that survivors just call it quits when it comes to a challenge. Nurse, spirit, iri head huntress....
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@Carlosylu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/734484#Comment_734484
Good sir, have you gone up to red ranks as killer, apart from participating in many other events, practically the only way of piping up past rank 3 is to get 4k. If the 3rd one suicided on first hook, not only is he giving a hatch escape to the 4th but he's also messing with my hooking BP for the pip up, he still had 2 more hooks for me to get.
Do you get me now?
I completely agree they should make it less harsh pipping up as killer.
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@snowflake102 said:
Theses threads get old real fast.
Then stop visiting them 🤕
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@Mtom912 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/713503#Comment_713503
Sorry but you’re gonna have to narrow your argument a bit more, I’m Australia region, nz to be more precise, and on PS4 killer is not hard, rank 1 on both sides, neither side is hard, in fact imo survivor is more frustrating gameplay wise, while killer is just frustrating from aim assist making you miss and FPS which isn’t gameplay related, but technical problems, majority of rank 1s barely know how to play the game, so you’re gonna have to narrow your argument to Australia region pc
Fine by me. My evidence is from PC players anyway. I don't know what players are like on PS4 sorry bout that
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Good idea. Would be so much more useful than any other add on they've given us
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@Mochan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/713455#Comment_713455
While I understand you have strong feelings for your own country's gaming scene, if we're talking about the game itself as a whole (which is your argument) then my data is the superior data set for inferring insights compared to yours.
I am willing to accept the statement "Australian Dead by Daylight is Survivor-sided" from your argument, but not the statement "Game is survivor-sided."
If you feel that Australian gaming scene is more focused and a better representation of the game and its issues I'd like to see supporting arguments to convince me of your gaming scene's superiority.
I see no evidence that Australia is more competitive and a better reference than, say, the North American scene.
Honestly I'm not from any other part of the world. Only Australia and I've only got evidence from Australia. Yes I should have changed my argument to "Australia n dead by daylight is survivor sided" but only if the experience truly is different in other countries. If true by all means the game shouldn't change for 1 highly competitive player base. If you see no evidence of this just look at Australian servers and do the same method you used for the global leader board. I assure that you will find how many more rank 1 survivors there are to rank 1 killers. Not to mention any killer main streamer will tell you of the games imbalance
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/713455#Comment_713455
Oh you’re in Australia too.
Hell yes, this is very true. Playing as killer in our region is ridiculously hard work. I have so many games where the survivors border on psychic, or all 4 survivors are ridiculously good at chases and looping, the latter becoming more and more common these past few months. There’s no opportunity to “outplay” or “mindgame” these kinds of teams because it’s impossible to close distance on them.
Yeah our player base is really competitive and it's insanely easy to see how survivor sided this game really is at its core. I find it hard how people from other countries can't see it. Maybe it's extremely different there
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@[Deleted User] said:
It’s survivor sided, but by accident.
The devs have ensured that for casual survivors or new survivors that for most areas of all maps that there is ALWAYS an escape option or pallet.
Unfortunately though experienced survivors know how to milk every single pallet, vault, structure for all they’re worth
It truly is. Now when playing against 4 insta heals or 2 insta heals and two keys. Combined with Ormond or Haddonfield it's a very unlikely game to be able to win
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Yes from your maths it would seem my argument to not be true. However the global leader board is not what I was using. In fact I have been using my own countries leader board as evidence because Australia is highly competitive. And competitive play is more valuable to me than casual. The player base is more focused here in Australia and in my opinion actually magnifies the issues
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@Mochan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/713357#Comment_713357
If that's the argument, my counter argument is:
a.) More people need to play survivor than killer. It's a 4v1 asymmetric game after all.
b.) Killer pipping is significantly harder due to the faulty emblem design compared to survivor pipping.
- b.1) This has no bearing on the game being killer or survivor-sided from a mechanical point of view.
c.) Most Killers prefer to de-rank because they don't want to stay in the high ranks, partly because it's harder to pip as killer, and partly because it's nothing but toxic sludge in the red ranks.
- c.1) You can find tons of evidence of killers deranking, play survivor for a couple hours and you're almost gauranteed to come across an AFK killer deranking.
Ok awesome thanks for your input. Firstly I'd like to agree with all of your base statements. But I'd also like to add some further depth as to why killers want to de rank.
The games at rank 1 are genuinely not fun to play. If a killer wants to play their favourite M1 killer against this rank 1, toxic sludge of a team. They are most likely to lose miserably.
Don't get me wrong if the killer gets a map that's decent for him and there are no insta heals and keys, it's winnable. Otherwise it's heavily in favour of survivors
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@DetailedDetriment said:
The game isn't survivor sided at all. It's the matter of the skill level of the survivors vs the skill level of the killer.
I don't believe this is true one bit. The game leans towards survivors heavily. I can assure you this because of:
• maps that are heavily survivor sided (which is most of them)
• insta heals and keys
• anti tunnel and camp perks
Any good survivor team will destroy a wraith everytime.
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@PoisonN said:
Well... nothing new, but I can't argue with main survivors about this topic because they are so closed and never play killer side
They think that the real problem of this game is camp and tunneling, no matter how many tools they have to deal with it
Yup I must say I've argued many times with survivors who believe this.
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@Rydog said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/713340#Comment_713340
Heh sorry, I just find it to be a "getting off on the wrong foot" subject format.
I do broadly agree that the game swings in the survivors' favor when we are talking about very optimal loadouts and high-rank matches. With a few exceptions (Nurse, Spirit, Hillbilly), killers do not have the mobility for wide map coverage or quick chases to handle everything in the whack-a-mole game that they are playing. The clock is against the killer at all times, and most killers don't have strong tools to beat the clock if the survivors know what they're doing.
But there's also not a single consistent definition for a win or a loss. Some survivors will almost inevitably die to a strong killer, some others will survive. So who "wins" in those cases?
I agree with you. Especially where you state killers don't really have the tools to beat the clock against great survivors. I just think there has to be a solution to not make killers OP for newbies but also make it more difficult for rank 1 survivors
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@humanbeing1704 said:
😂😂😂
Amazing. You've changed my mind
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@MiniPixels said:
It has been since day 1. But without old DS and pallet vacuums it's a lot better now.
I agree. I'd also say that it's still pretty much BS
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@Rydog said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/713370#Comment_713370
To be fair, you made no argument, you just stated the conclusion and said LET'S ALL FIGHT. I made your argument for you.
"Change my mind" is not "LETS ALL FIGHT". That was your interpretation and I can't help that
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@Mochan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/713331#Comment_713331
There's nothing wrong with arguing, but you can't argue without an argument.
OP doesn't understand how to make an argument, so no discussion can possibly commence.
The argument is in the title the source of from the website. If you think survivors aren't favoured. Please be my guest to argue.
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@TheRoyalOwl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/90600/game-is-survivor-sided-change-my-mind
Huh? This makes no sense. For the game to run semi-decent;y the game has to be full of survivors because of the whole 4v1 thing. So yeah, duh.
Ummm that's like already implied my dude. That doesn't excuse the fact that there are more fingers on my hand than rank one killers compared to the never ending list of rank 1 survivors.
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@MyNamePete said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/713332#Comment_713332
lowkey yeah but no cap, no. You just need to get really good at a certain killer and know what to do in the situations survivors use their “fair and balanced” tactics.
Understandable tbh. I just think when rank 1 survivors all bring second chance items and perks it's almost impossible even with said OP killers. M1 killers either have to slug for 4 K and black pip or just lose
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@Rydog said:
I don't even understand what those screenshots are implying or where they come from, but "change my mind" topics are always just code for "I want to argue."
They come from a website that tracks survivors and killers on a leaderboard I assumed you would know about it. And yes I want you to argue your point of you think it's any different
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@MyNamePete said:
yeah everyone knows this
So then whats the point in playing killer? Do I just have to play spirit and nurse and pretend there isn't any other killers?
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@[Deleted User] said:
It's really bad. Maybe my least favorite map outside of Purgation. I think they need to get away from the "uber safe building with 0 counterplay pallets surrounded by safe loops" philosophy. You can have the building, but don't put it smack dab in the middle of the map so everyone can always run to it.
I 100% agree with this. As soon a you start a chase they immediately B line to the main building
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@DudeDelicious hahahaha yeah I completely agree with you
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On paper this killer should be a better Freddy, hell he should be at Billy Strength. From the perspective of someone who's already nearly P3 demogorgon (spending bp only earned by playing it) the portals get destroyed extremely quickly; Quicker than he has time to teleport back. Freddy actually can only have his "portals" destroyed when they complete a generator.
Then we have loops. Freddy can just slow down your loop and catch you extremely quickly. And 90 percent of loops aren't long walls. Demogorgon HAS to break a pallet once it's dropped. (Only on safe pallets obviously)
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In my opinion surge has become great to use. Ive never been able to actually use cruel limits that well as gens always get done while I'm in a chase and never in my face.
Mind breaker is absolutely not that great. Great idea but the limitation to it is absurd. After a gen hits 50% you may as well have an empty slot. It doesn't work well on demogorgon because his stealth ability isn't entirely that stealthy. He lets everyone know he's about to portal so everyone is immediately alert and on lookout to see where he might be coming from. Ghostface and pig might work well with him but I'm yet to test that out
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@Mochan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/688127#Comment_688127
If you're not winning against SWF you are kinda bad at the game.
Not all SWF are god commando squads. If you can't win against SWF you are just not as good at this game as you think you are. Leave the ego at the door and look at the game objectively.
As for what is going to be done about SWF?
It's clear as day the Devs are supporting it 100% and even sanctioning it. The new Party feature thing in the upcoming patch will institutionalize SWF even further. It's clear that BHVR wants to encourage everyone to SWF.
I'm actually not going to argue with you on this subject. "If you lose against SWF, you are bad at the game" I disagree whole heartedly. My problem isn't people having fun with friends its the effectiveness of SWF that is insane.
You use these little token sentances like "leave your ego at the door, and look at the game objectively", you're assuming that i've just had bad experiences on my own as if hardcore dbd players and streamers don't have this problem. I don't think I want to continue arguing with someone who clearly hasn't gotten the point of my post.
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@Drazen said:
literally nurse with her broken addons can face sweaty swf even spirit is gonna have really hard time against them and mostly are sweaty swfs I have never seen some chill ones like literally 1/10 swf are chill others are sweaty tryhards who will bring every crutch to ruin ur experience and btw nurse is getting nerfed soon so lobby dodging will increase even more
Yeah man I'm with you on that. 100% agree
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@Liruliniel said:
Ya people are gonna keep playing the game with friends. SWF will still happen. Weak killers will dodge and complain. They finally don't dodge because that's all they can get then suddenly get crushed. Complain and dodge.
Why play against SWF and get better and develop the skills necessary to beat SWF. You can dodge for a easier game and complain instead.
WOW. Again another survivor main misunderstanding the WHOLE point of my post. Congrats survivor you actually made your argument based on the assumption the killer is trash at the game and that's why we hardly ever win against SWF
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@Mtom912 said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/994/BT9M0QG0F8YC.jpeg
Bro games are so short, 12-14 minute games hmmmm
Where did you get that information from?
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@Regionlock said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/677369#Comment_677369
Sure bud, and yours holds so much weight that the devs are in here right now taking you all serious. Post another streamers with 2k hours complaining about one match, I'm sure they will be in here for you. If you here to ask for specific map rotations for certain killers only, I would take that serious, but until then proceed. I'm sure they are waiting on your call, and info you got from the streamers.
I would be more inclined to believe the likes of Ohtofu, Otzdarva, and Ayrun over you. "Complaining about 1 match" dude you are actually childish. You've gotta cool it down with the insults and assumptions. If it were an Anomaly I wouldn't be here talking about it like it's a problem.
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@Regionlock said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/677360#Comment_677360
I play both equally, but unlike most I don't feel entitled to 4k every game. The funny thing is I'm ranked higher on killer, cuz i'ts much harder to get BP, ya know? hard life
You think we feel entitled to 4k every game. That in itself is a gumby assumption on your part, therefore your argument doesn't hold much water
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@Regionlock said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/677240#Comment_677240
This is how it goes around these forums.. It's a huge killer circle jerk, "I'm entitled to at least a 3k, cuz mom says im the best player around." " if they find ruin at the start of the game, cuz im too busy tunneled and missing every throw while the survivor is sitting right infront of my face, it's the gem speeds fault"
Are we gonna pretend like there weren't tons of mistakes on his part in this video? People need to stop looking for more excuses to get carried as killer. Queue solo survivor and screenshot us your escape rates, and come back on these forums about how hard it really is to play. One SWF with such an early HEX pop with all the mistakes he made, nah, I don't feel sorry for him. You can idolize this guy as your god, but he messed up here.
You are actually very misguided. I would ask you to re evaluate your argument because it's obviously not a well thought out one. Any streamer with over 2,000 hours will tell you there's a problem with map pressure and game speeds. And they play survivor just as much as killer. You just sound like a poor survivor that hasn't learnt the ropes of being a good survivor yet. I'd be inclined to tell you to play killer just a little bit before you make an argument like that again.