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Survivor mains crying for spirit nerfs
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@derperson said:
I main spirit, but when going against her as survivor I get lost sometimes; her presence just jumbles my brain because there are so many different things she can do.
I think that's it honestly. There are just too many things to predict to accurately predict her, unless the player becomes predictable. Otherwise, if she manages to maintain a random playstyle, your only hope (according to game theory) is to be completely random as well.
I think survivors who die to her a lot could live longer if they identified what predictable-survivor-behavior was, and then avoided doing that around the spirit. But, that requires creativity, and creativity is hard. So, maybe people are just lazy, and D/C, lol.
Yeah they just want easy games. They only know how to loop and bully M1 killers but when it comes to versing spirit they just DC because they dont wanna use their brain
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@DocOctober said:
Why do Survivors DC? Two reason: they don't want to figure out counters to a strong Killer and git gud, and they want the devs to nerf that Killer.
McLean has admitted that one reason Freddy and Legion received nerfs so quickly after their respective releases were their high DC-rates. It is something they factor in and Survivors have realised that as well.
There is a pattern of them shifting the complaints from Killer to Killer, always going after the next one that they deem the current Number One:
First we had complaints about Legions, he got nerfed, the complaints switched to PTB Plague.
PTB Plague received a small, but effective enough nerf to lower her potential to counteract pallet loops, resulting in her being quite a rare sight these days. The complaints stopped and switched to Nurse.
The devs announce Nurse reworks (and from experience we can assume that if anything, those will be nerfs), the complaints switched to Spirit now.
Thank you. Someone who gets me. I'm really looking forward to dedicated servers, so that those crybabies who DC can finally get banned
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/701737#Comment_701737
I don’t think you’ve seen a good PS4 Nurse.
No i haven't, since good nurses on PS4 are rare and hag can be bullied with a decent SWF team.
@alienschmalien said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/701737#Comment_701737
Signficantly don't listen to these killers mains. They want her because she's easy handholding the killer and need her to stay at rank 1.
Seriously there are so many people who are clearly not good at the game in red ranks as killer BECAUSE of Spirit and how busted she is.
It's not about looping and bullying her. It's about her being fun and having COUNTERS. If it was about ''WAAAA STRONG KILLERS." People would ask for nerfs as much for Hillbilly and Huntress as well, yet survivors tend to enjoy them.
Funny that.
I'll just give the usual advice to you: GIT GUD
And people like you is the reason why legion is the worst killer in the game
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Devs if you read this, please don't listen to these survivor mains. They want these nerfs to bully and loop her till daylight. It's the only viable killer on PS4 at R1, so don't touch her please
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Because they are crybaby survivor mains who refuse to adapt
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Spine chill, premonition, iron will and one more:
And stop being a crybaby survivor main
Don't listen to these noobs devs plz
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No no no. BBQ has too many counters to get a nerf. It seems you are new so here is the list:
1) Use the Distortion perk
2) Use lockers
3) Hide behind gens
4) When the killer downS a survivor just stay within the 40 meter range
5) Count to 5 and then change direction
6) And the last but not least GIT GUD
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Spirit in SS please
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I don't know about the others but spirit is S
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No way spirit is A. She is at least S but I would put her on SS, since imo is like nurse
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You only need one thing
Spirit is balanced and she has her counters. Stop asking for ez wins survivor mains.
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As a spirit main I approve xD
I usually play without prayer beads but sometimes it's funny as hell to mess with the survivors and get the sweet sweet salt
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@AetherBytes said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/691432#Comment_691432
I somewhat agree with this actually. I know you meant it sarcastically, but a mode where we can walk around maps alone as survivor or killer could let us have chances at trying to learn how to optimize looping or, with certain killers, find niche little areas where a trap might be useful, or a good place to stay undetected.
Yeah like a practice mode
@ABannedCat said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/691432#Comment_691432
Haha, implying survivor is challenging, or stressful.
I mean against viable killers and moris
Of course for the other killers it's like a walk in the park
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I suggest something better. Why do we need killers? Let survivors spawn without a killer. No challenge and no stress
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I like your suggestions but they won't do it. Survivor mains will cry again
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Of course you need headphones to play. Spirit relies on picking up sounds from survivors such as grunts, footsteps (and breathing if you equip stridor which is very good on )
Sometimes even with headphones I have trouble hearing them because of the loud chase music
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What did you say? god and infinite loops?
My spirit doesn't know these words. Can you elaborate xD
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As a killer nothing but as survivor I'm bad at 360ing. Sometimes I manage to do it and sometimes I fail.
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@Gardenia said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/689393#Comment_689393
How often it's used doesn't negate the potency of the add-on. It's still broken.
Regardless if it's used frequently or not.
Why should a rarely used add on be nerfed? I really don't get survivor mains
Also what about insta heals? Don't they need a nerf? They are broken af
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@Gardenia said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/689383#Comment_689383
And from your profile name to your statement, it seems you're a bit biased.
Just answer this question: How often do you see a spirit using this add on?
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Not again plz
And maybe you need to git gud?
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Claudette of course for maxing out boldness points xD
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/688595#Comment_688595
The only meta perks I’m currently running are Iron Will and Adrenaline, other perks are We’ll make it and small game.
I’m not saying nerf prayer beads because I’m fine with op things but if perks are counter play then a lot of things on both sides are balanced.
The comment with the crutch perks wasn't referring to you. I mentioned you for the rarity one, cause the guy above said "for the off chance"
When you play survivor, do you see it often?
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@aazimuth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/688479#Comment_688479
Why should I be forced to run one or two perks for the off CHANCE that I will play against a prayer beads spirit? That makes no sense.
First thank you for saying "for the off chance" which means you rarely see it (that's for you @GrootDude)
Second, of course you won't run them since you always equip your crutch perks but when you encounter a spirit they are useless ;)
Spine chill and iron will are great perks in against all killers. Maybe give them a try?
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@GrootDude Mom is a PERK and before it's nerf you could see it in every game. Prayer bead is a VERY RARE ADD ON which I think you rarely encounter
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/688479#Comment_688479
Following this logic, MoM was balanced because you could run insta-down perks, add ons, or killers to counter it.
It was not balanced because if 4 survivors had it then it would be a gg for most of the killers. And i excluded the insta heals
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@aazimuth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/687827#Comment_687827
Yeah, guess I just gotta "git gud" at a guessing game. Because that totally represents skill. You saying prayer beads has literally no problem too just obliterates your entire argument.
I will say it again until you all understand it
Do you know that spine chill or premonition exist?
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@LordGlint said:
You can do well with ANY killer if you put time into it. This whole idea of only Nurse and Spirit being viable is constantly sprouted out by people who arnt willing to take the time to learn the nuances of other killers and think outside the box a little. "Do I think about what perks compliment this killer's power and make a build with this in mind? Nah, lets just throw Spirit fury and enduring on it and insist its required."
Then try bubba or piggy or any other loopable killer at red ranks and see how well it goes
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@gamer123 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/687912#Comment_687912
Lol plz stop contributing to this thread. Your biasedness is so bright it's blinding.
yes you don't want your op easy mode killer to be rightfully nerfed bc it makes you feel significant.
Gut her kit and give her a full rework
And you are one of those survivor mains who likes ez games and bullying the killer
Because of people like you, legion is a tier on its own (literally the worst killer) and nurse's add ons are getting nerfed
I really hope they don't listen to this kind threads
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@humanbeing1704 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/687827#Comment_687827
prayer beads needs to be Nerfed though how can a add on that powerful have zero downsides
Have you heard of spine chill or premonition?
And the insta heals are balanced too or ds?
I also didn't mention SWF teams
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@TKTK said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/687915#Comment_687915
exactly, some people are showing double standards, especially with the removing collision while phasing that people keep suggesting. It's not okay for Spirit to stand still and mindgame, but if collision was removed survivors could do just that and Spirit would have no way to know if you were there. It's ridiculous the ideas people have and don't actually think things out.
I totally agree. Those who say these things are survivors who like bulling killers and ez games
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@Mochan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/687810#Comment_687810
This is something I would get on board with.
The collission in particular is huge. Removing collision would make fighting spirit a lot, lot better and fairer.
Prayer Bead rarity is not so bad, I admit going up against Beads spirit is annoying as heck but it's not so bad, and if it is SPine Chill is always a great perk to have anyway.
Collision is fine and part of her kit. If they remove it then they should also remove the collision with objects, like nurse
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For the 1000th time, spirit is fine and balanced in her current state. There is no need for unwanted nerfs. And prayer beads rarity is ok imo (Spine chill and premonition say hi)
To all the survivors mains who cry for nerfs, i will just say one thing: Git gud
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Well I usually use two builds on him but at green or purple ranks. I get either 3ks or 4ks
1) BBQ + RUIN + PGTW + NURSES
2) BBQ + RUIN + ENDURING + SPIRIT FURY
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I could main nurse but since I'm on PS4 and I'm also stuck at Rank 1 (every time) I only play spirit.
My win/loss ratio with her is like 99% and I love making survivors salty and feel powerless against me. You can't bully my Rin ;) Of course the DCs are a bonus :P
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@Bravo0413 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/678249#Comment_678249
That's what I've been saying in these type of threads.... spine chill, IW these 2 can have massive effects against other killers....
And they're still insisting that spirit needs a nerf. Whatever we say we can't change the mind of survivor mains who want ez games bulling the killer
I really hope the devs don't listen to them and nerf her like they did to legion who got destroyed
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@Bravo0413 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/678012#Comment_678012
I was going to bring this up too..... damn it kinda feels good that survivors feel that they have to run a perk in order to counter 1 out of like 15 killers.....
Well it is very helpful in general for juking killers not only spirit. Especially when you combine it with q&q
Of course survivor mains only run crutch perks so iron will is a perk not so appealing
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A better question would be why they removed the vote down button
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@Poweas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/676502#Comment_676502
Isn't there 6?
There's Nurse, Spirit, Hag, Billy, Myers, Demogorgon, Ghostface and Huntress.
I mean only Nurse and Spirit are overpowered too. Hag and Billy are just very strong but not OP. Myers, Demogorgon, Ghostface and Huntress are strong.
OP against solos, not SWF
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Wow I can't understand some people who refuse to adapt. We stated all the counters and strats and they're still whining. No nerf for my Rin.
Just
And stop crying
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@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/675839#Comment_675839
Needing a perk to counter one addon shows imbalance. Just because it is rare doesn't make it fine.
If a spirit doesn't make any mistake and is really really good, there is no counter play.
The fact that only two killers are viable at red ranks, shows a more significant imbalance imo than this
And all killers make mistakes. We are not AI. We are humans.
Also, have you heard of the double back and q&q strats? Just saying
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Can you please stop all these spirit nerf threads already?
*Spirit must remain untouched, since she is the only killer apart from nurse (at least on PS4) that can deal with toxic SWF.
*There are counters to spirit. Just learn to use them and stop crying. Iron will is the biggest counter to her. And prayer beads is fine as very rare. Use spine chill or premonition to counter it.
*Also, I know why you want her to be nerfed, so that you can bully and loop her like all the other killers (expept nurse)
