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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1505146#Comment_1505146
Everyone's gonna complain about anything anyway, who cares, no need to make a thread about it, play the game how you want, you paid for it.
I agree but I am afraid the bullying gets to killers and make them feel down, so I made a topic to encourage them to use NOED, tunnel, camp, mori, iri heads and do whatever they want. They paid for this game and it's okay if they want to win, they are not using an exploit of being toxic at all.
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@Enlyne said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1505148#Comment_1505148
Pure drama mama, I swear, what a waste of reasoning goes with you.
Good luck everyone else, but don't waste your precious time on this absolute killer-biased troll, everything is survivor sided in this game for them.
You literally have not made any discussion on this topic. From your first post to the last all attacking me, same in the Hatch topic (anyone can search your posts). AND THEN, you go on and say I am an absolute killer-biased troll? Projecting much, my absolute survivor-biased troll friend? You don't have to contribute but also I don't want your insults so leave now.
Have a nice day.
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@Enlyne said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1505140#Comment_1505140
You're oblivious I can't even believe you're serious, everyone else here as already proven their points and all you've done is deny each single one of them without ANY argument that's even remotely good on your side, all you do is resort to the same kind of weak ideas that prove nothing for you, and yeah, call me a survivor main if that makes you feel better, but it ain't even remotely true.
Stop trolling, adapt to what you don't like and stop creating bait threads just to deny everything you don't like, that's my point.
Wow entitled survivor mains are so entitled and used to dictate what people do. Stop tunneling/camping, stop noed, stop posting in discussion boards!
Who needs to grow up? Anyways it seems we are going off-topic, so either contribute to this: NOED bad, 100 survivors perks are OK, or please leave.
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@[Deleted User] said:
What's happening here ?
I have no idea, but most second chance perks are fine and have clear counterplay, bait the dead hard, BT is just meh outside of endgame situation tbh and Unbreakable is perfectly a-ok.
DS on the other hand can die in a fire because 60 seconds is too much.
Because survivors shame killer for using NOED and say "not a good killer" when themselves have more perks that are way more powerful than NOED and are considered truly a "crutch". Not to mention going against 4x of them (so imagine, 4x 60 seconds).
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@Enlyne said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1505132#Comment_1505132
The pinnacle of trolling right here, calling everyone you don't like a survivor main just proves about how reasonable you are.
Boy what a joke.
Grow up and stop believing you're in the right to discredit everyone who doesn't follow your opinion when clearly you're being contradicted by the most part.
You honestly saying survivors got no good perks and killer has all the good perks.. How can I take you seriously after that? It's like that dude who said hatch is killer-favored.
I am sorry but it's my opinion.
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@Enlyne said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1505042#Comment_1505042
Bruh, trying to discuss points that clearly are against you and denying them doesn't prove anything for you either, all it does is show how little you care about other people's opinions and just give yourself all the credit about being right in everything you say.
Killers have a lot of good perks that are overlooked, survivors barely have anything that's even worth considering bringing, instance being spine chill as one of the most popular out of the meta perks, DH is server heavy and most of the time you're gonna be lying in the ground EXHAUSTED, BT doesn't work on freddy, Unbreakable is as easy as downing them early so they either waste the perk or they waste time in the ground waiting for someone else.
100 perks are good for survivors my ass, man, quit being such a baby about it.
Survivor main what to expect... Do you even play DbD if you literally believe survivors got nothing and killers are the power role?
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Look at me, I am a good killer! I am the best! I won some match out of 10000 where I had only one perk!
Game is totally not survivor-biased.
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Next people will just AFK, you can't really fix this.. If someone does not want to play a certain trial he won't play.
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@Enlyne said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1504916#Comment_1504916
Dude, just how delusional are you to discredit everyone else's points?
If you can't handle people slapping back at your arguments, don't even bother creating a thread in the first place, holy cow.
What points did I dismiss? That screenshots and VODs proof nothing? Better reading comprehension please.
This topic is about NOED is for bad killers, DH BT Unnbreakable and 100 other perks are good for survivors. That's all!
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Because I think they need to be better, like make the Hatch appear when no generators are done at all.. They are useless even with your buffs.
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Are you serious?
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@PigMainClaudette said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1504862#Comment_1504862
How is the game survivor sided though? In my experience lately the game is way more killer sided, if we want to go on the outdated statistics of kills vs. escapes.
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm perfectly fine with it, but it is purely about HOW I die, not IF I die. Lately, all my games have been trash with hook suicides and hardcore killers or high ranking SWF squads against essentially brand new killers.
Let me guess, the statistics where even before ruin was reworked?
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I can put screenshot of me having P3 level 50 all survivors and a rank Zero survivor. Or post "VOD"s too, it literally proves nothing.
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Survivor mains swarming my topic now under the disguise of actually playing "killer", sure.
Had to explain how DS/BT are perks to abuse and not to counter tunneling/camping, like any killer wouldn't know that.
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Can't have fun when game is not balanced and survivor-sided though. I am not here to entertain the survivors and give them free escapes.
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1504839#Comment_1504839
Lol I play both sides equally in red ranks but alright. Also you can literally just double hit the unhooker and then hook them instead attacking the person off the hook its not that hard. DS isn't god mode for 60 seconds it's "You can't tunnel me for 60 seconds.". By your logic a perk that takes 2+ minutes off the killers time to counter is perfectly fine as well?
Your comment shows your expertise with killer but apparently everyone is red rank killer in here.
This is where BT abuse comes here, you go for unhooker and they just body block you and take a hit. Deadly especially in end game.
It IS god mode for 60 seconds for the simple fact is survivors can heal in your face, fix a gen, or just come back body blocking and harass you since they are invulnerable.
Also, doing a gen is 80 seconds so 60 seconds is a bit too much. And yet you cry about "2 minutes" to counter NOED, hmm..
Seriously, play killer.
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1504826#Comment_1504826
Its because OP wants everyone to see how oppressed killer mains are lol Like just play both sides dude not that hard
Oh wow, killer is so not oppressed! It's why people like you don't dare to play killer beyond rank 12. Right? Right.
I play both sides, it's a fact the game is survivor-inclined and if you can't see that, not sure what to tell you. You need to work out your cognition abilities.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1504833#Comment_1504833
So my opinion isn't killer biased and subsequently I'm a survivor main? The ######### you mean?
HELLO! NEWSFLASH! OPINIONS DO NOT HAVE TO BE IDENTICAL TO YOURS DESPITE THE FACT WE PLAY THE SAME ROLE.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1504834#Comment_1504834
Holy ######### thank you
I didn't make myself clear: I couldn't care less who you are in a discussion.
If your opinion is survivor-biased then, well, you are inclined to survivors.
Don't see the point in discussing with you anymore, you are more into attention it seems to me.
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1504825#Comment_1504825
I edited my response to show how the counter for NOED is hugely flawed. They're perfectly Anti-tunnel and Anti-camp I mean if you're being honest if you're not tunneling someone off hook whats the chances of downing someone else, finding the person with DS, then downing them within 60 seconds? And if you're really playing that well then DS won't screw you over since you're already better than at least half the survivor team.
Ask me how I know you never played killer. Well, not on any other thank rank 20-17.
God mode for 60 seconds and abusive BT especially in end game with protective hits is not anti camping/tunneling, my survivor friend.
They are momentum stopper and are abused by SWF in 90% of games.
NOED is here to counter gen-rushing, to make the games last longer... So it seems like it is doing a good job?
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1504821#Comment_1504821
Oh Holy #########.
@hahadrillgobrrr @2ndBusiestmusicnerd You guys have seen me stream. Would you call me a survivor main or a killer main?
OP, literally watch a ######### VOD to see that I don't main survivor. I can't prove to you I'm not a survivor main any more because all the proof you need is in my Twitch channel.
It don't matter what or who you are, what you are saying is survivor-biased. What matter is your point and here I go again:
"Survivors can use all no-skill perk it's okay, they are not 'relying' on them. Killer using NOED is a noob because he 'relies' on it! Except when it's end game build I have to mention this so I seem fair and killer main".
This is LITERALLY your point.
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@kate_best_girl said:
All those perks have counters lol. DS and BT just dont play toxic, Unbreakable is a rare use perk tbh and its only a ONE TIME USE perk so wow a perk that counters slugging how horrible, DH yeah it can be extremely OP but every other time it just isn't, I'd say only 15% of times is it worth it.
And NOED has no counters, right?
Already discussed how DS and BT are not anti tunnel/camp but are easily abused.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1504810#Comment_1504810
I LITERALLY MAIN KILLER HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS?
Is it because I don't automatically subscribe to the whole "survivor op killers oppressed ds bad" narrative that you think I'm not? Newsflash kid people can have different opinions than you.
I don't even play survivor anymore unless I'm asked to or I have archive challenges because it's that unfun for me.
Once again for the people in the back I AM A KILLER MAIN. People have watched me stream. You asked me to stream. I showed you I stream and you're ignoring it. You don't want a discussion, you want an echo chamber.
Stop with the typical survivor main BS please.
"Survivors can use all no-skill perk it's okay, they are not 'relying' on them. Killer using NOED is a noob because he 'relies' on it! Except when it's end game build I have to mention this so I seem fair and killer main".
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1504798#Comment_1504798
LITERALLY go onto Twitch and watch my streams I gave you the link. I'm a killer main mate.
You ASKED me to stream high level gameplay, I DO stream high level gameplay. Oh my God.
You don't make any sense dude. "Using" and "Relying" on perk dude come ######### on.
P.S: You can be red rank killer and be survivor main too.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1504340#Comment_1504340
Damn I wish people would read all the comments by a single person in a discussion before commenting.
RELYING on the perks and USING the perks are two different things. If you RELY on the perk NOED and don't get kills beforehand you're a ######### killer, exception being in endgame builds. If you RELY on second chance perks you're a ######### survivor. If you USE the perks but don't NEED them you're not #########.
You are typing absolute nonsense this is why no one is reading it.
"Relying" and "using" perks is different things, are you for real?! How do you even define reliance or usage? You mean to just insert the perk and not use it?!
Survivor mains dude....
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@DBD78 said:
Only losers complain about Noed. We survivors have many second chance perks but the toxic players want the killer to have none, because they are not interested in a fair balanced game and that is why they are toxic losers.
This times a million. People who shame killers and dictate their gameplay are just entitled toxic bullies.
The same goes for moris, tunneling, camping, iri heads and whatever killers want to do since survivors do not hold anything back and never shy away from abusing everything and then acting toxic.
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No.
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I don't even bother using hex totems anymore, other than sweet NOED.
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@Orion said:
I'll say what I said about NOED supposedly being for bad killers: so what?
Yep.
Second chance perks are for bad survivors, so what? They are not holding back and abuse everything.
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Same goes for SWF, second chance perks, flashlights, etc..
Killers can play however they want since survivors don't hold back.
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@clem1710 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1504567#Comment_1504567
DS by itself is already extremely strong but it's even worse with unbreakable
Survivors just regurgitate what they read, that's all.
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@Kellie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1502031#Comment_1502031
DS by itself is fine. Noed by itself is fine. Its not fine when you use other perks that synergize too well with them.
Does it feel good to just regurgitate what other people say all the time?
Make NOED meta guys, despite them entitled survivors.
Mori, tunnel, camp and iri heads too please. Are they holding back? Why should we?
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@Get_Beaned_B0I said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1502125#Comment_1502125
Anyone that says that NoEd is a crutch must automatically be a survivor main that runs 4 crutches ever single game
/s
Doesn't matter really. So long as survivors abuse anything they can (items, addons, perks, lame techniques oh and let's not forget SWF) killers can also use any strategy (camp tunnel), items (moris, iri heads) and NOED.
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@rogueplayer00 said:
If you rely on noed, you suck. But I love getting to the endgame with 2 survs left and get a free easy kill
Point is: Killers can mori, camp, tunnel, iri head, and NOED if they want because survivors abuse everything they can without a shame.
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@RoMainPuppy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1502843#Comment_1502843
You literally made a post the other day asking for NOED to be basekit. What else could this be but epic bait?
...? So it's a bait because you disagree with it? Yep... Survivor nonsense.
I make rational points to discuss. Survivors shouldn't have second chance (hatch) and killers nothing, so I proposed NOED as an example only. Provide context next time my logical survivor friend.
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@RoMainPuppy said:
Dude you ever gonna be tired of posting such weak sauce bait?
Thanks for contributing to the discussion. Not sure how it is sauce bait but I guess more survivor nonsense.
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@clem1710 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1502662#Comment_1502662
It depends on who make it to the hatch first
It's irrelevant because hatch is out-of-jail card for Survivor, it spawns when Survivors plays poorly as yet another second chance.
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Honestly this game is so messed up and survivor sided I barely play it, if ever..
Oh well, enjoy long queues survivors.
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@Enlyne said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1502256#Comment_1502256
And why, pray tell, is this even a need?
They're people of their own, you don't need to create a whole topic just because a couple of "entitled survivors" hurt your feelings with it.
Not everyone is using a crutch only loadout in the surv side btw, so calm down.
It did not get to my feelings at all, but it does get to other killers' feelings. Hence, this topic. To un-shame and encourage killers to play how they want.
Go tunnel, camp, mori, iri head, etc. etc. my guys!
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No it should not. Camping is a valid technique for killers. Do gens or leave the guy to die if it's end game.
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It's 1 VERSUS FOUR so of course NOED should be little stronger.
Still, DS is momentum stopper and can definitely be stronger than NOED.
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@Tsair said:
I mean yes, if you're a bad killer and that's the only way you can win and you have fun doing it, then do so. You're playing the 1v4 side, you dictate what rate the game is played at. The fact that you disregard any arguments proves that you don't actually care about any of these perks and you just want justification to play in a way that clearly implies you are an extremely weak killer. It's definitely not lame to shame killers for a perk and bad tactics, just as it's not lame to shame a survivor for running all 4 crutch perks. Both people are abusing something that makes the game feel worse for the other side.
No man, my point is: Let killers play how they want and stop being a hypocrite and shaming them when you do way worse.
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@BabyEverything said:
i think a basic emori would be more cool, just to kill the guy without dragging in to a hook would deny a lot of perks he may have
Maybe something like Pyramid Head?
Get hatch deleted, please!
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@Tsair said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1502251#Comment_1502251
You didn't regard any of my points explaining why NOED is something that only weak players use. And I don't use UB, BT, or DS, despite those all carrying the expectation that you will be hooked, because even if you're winning you definitely should be. Anyway, my point was regarding NOED relying on you to be bad, and you didn't respond to that at all. Care to try again?
I don't "regard" your points because they are irrelevant and I couldn't care less.
Topic is discussing how it's lame to shame killers when you have 4x crutch perks, not discussing NOED at all.
Killers: Play however you want, and use whatever perk you want! Equip an iri head for me please, and a mori too! Thank you kindly.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1502229#Comment_1502229
Do forgive me if I'm wrong but If I can get to here
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/HSSFCAR3XWZV/image.png
In less than 3 days playing two so-called "Weak" killers (Wraith and Pyramid Head)
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/30EKIXOVJCI1/image.png
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/GROBLI5ZQ59E/image.png
Without using the perk once then forgive me for calling it a crutch perk people rely on.
If I can do it, so can you.
I critique both sides just as much. Curb your bias.
Those pictures prove absolutely nothing lol. Mind as well be from Google.
Stream high level killer gameplay please.
P.S: Like I said million times, no one here thinks NOED is necessary good/bad, it's not the discussion. Thread was made to "unshame" killers and let them use whatever they want, and do whatever they want.
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@Tsair said:
Rank 1 killer and survivor, NOED isn't even a consideration in my build because having it in your build means you're accepting that the survivors are probably going to do all five gens against you. It is literally a crutch because you know you're going to lose, but you want to have a chance at a couple kills at the end that you did nothing to earn. Doing bones is very difficult for solo survivors, and shouldn't be expected unless there's a QOL balance to help ensure they know when all totems are done. DS, BT, UB are definitely crappy when used together, but they are all very avoidable. Run devour hope, it counters all three. You'll be out of TR range to get the stack. And if you say 'But it's a hex, I don't want to use that!' then you don't actually want survivors to look for totems if there's no other hex. You just want to abuse the fact that they don't.
All I read was more of everyone is rank 1 killer, but clearly survivor-biased. The point of this topic is it's stupid to shame NOED and dictate how killers play when you do whatever you want and use 4x crutch perks.
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@Enlyne said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1502231#Comment_1502231
Nah of course not, it's not like we see these kinda threads every single day. /s
It's a game, adapt and get over what you dislike, cause calling everyone out as an entitled surv that tells you how to play is not the way to prove your point.
That's all on you buddy.
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Have you................... Have you read the topic?!
The whole topic is about entitled (yes entitled) survivors crying and shaming killers for using ONE perk they consider a "crutch", while themselves each using 4x crutch perks.
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@Dr_doom_j2 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1502148#Comment_1502148
That's just flat out stupid. "Oh, if you use this perk in a situation that basically it's unnecessary in or gets you the least amount of value, you're a good player"
Just saying, if it's not perk shaming it's tactic shaming, you really have a laundry list of opinions on how killers can play, but whenever survivor play is brought up, there's always an excuse or reason..
I don't understand why people have to tell others how to play, then have the nerve to call others smoll pp
Hence, this topic exist. Ergo, don't feel ashamed killer players, those people literally good at only holding M1 while you juggle four survivors and feel the heat, play however you want. Tunnel, camp, mori, NOED.. All is fine.
I don't even need NOED/Mori but heck, I will use them when I want to. And, I will add a sweet iri head on top of that too.
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@Enlyne said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1502210#Comment_1502210
Except I do every single bone I see?
Your reasoning doesn't seem all that legitimate to me, as a solo survivor NOED strikes the most, and the spawns sometimes are not really all that common.
I play the way I feel like without following the meta, and yet I don't feel like running a perk just because a broken, overly relied on by bad killers perk exists, I have to alter what makes me have fun.
Its REALLY not that hard to understand it, is it?
Get a feel of how to play as killer. Don't slug, unbreakable. Don't tunnel, DS. Don't camp, BT.
All of those are valid options to killers but yet they are dictated to play a certain way, but hey we ain't complaining!
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@Carpemortum said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1502198#Comment_1502198
Except yes really?
I play solo all the time and have no issues with noed. Once 3 gens pop I start looking for bones. Because if you just rush 5 gens a d do no bones, you can only expect noed to be a thing.
"You dont know if people have done them"
Except, you do, because theres a pile of bones on the ground. And pretty common spawns you can check.
And even if there wasnt/I'm misremembering every game I've played, run detectives hunch, or small game. Killers are constantly told to "play this way" or "run this perk" if they dont like XYZ, so why should survivors be any different?
If you're sick of noed, and dont want to die to it, run a perk to help you if needbe, and do the ######### bones. Its REALLY not hard.
Exactly this. They are too afraid to let go of their crutch perks and use small game or detective's hunch, or even a damned map if they are that much of a noob. I mean, they play survivor mainly, so let's not judge...
They don't want an anti to gen rush it seems.