NamesCris

@[Deleted User] said:
Killer mains for the longest whined about second chance perks, but now have even more second chance perks to help them.
The killer meta was always slowdown and the devs in an attempt to "shake up the meta" have made slowdown even stronger lmfao. They only changed the meta for survivors.
Slowdown perks are for killers who wanna over commit brainlessly to one survivor and still win without having to worry about gen pressure. You get a second chance on all that lost time you spent chasing someone with slowdown perks that are now a staple of every game.
Thana, PR, deadlock, ruin etc. the list of slowdowns and slowdown stacking is ridiculous.
Endurance stacking was an issue, but there's nothing wrong with slowdown stacking? 164 second gen?
There needs to be a hard limit on how much you can slowdown a gen and an increase in the sacrifice timer while on hook, 60 seconds does not account for new killer action speeds and how much easier it is to catch survivors now. There needs to be a stronger punishment accessible to survivors to counter camping and tunneling. OTR and basekit BT just do not make a difference in a killer who wants to camp and tunnel.
"Just run overzealous and deja vu forehead"
Don't even get me started on how strong tunneling and camping is now.

I still have zero idea where you guys are getting 164 seconds from

in Killer hypocrisy Comment by NamesCris July 21, 2022

@BenZ0 said:
The amount of brain dead survivors that just shoulder tackle me and unhook right infront of my face when I was about to get away from the hook and therefore just farm and basicly kill themselves AND the unhooked person is insane.
This happens to be like every game once atleast.
But ye lets blame it to camping and tunneling boys

I still think Borrowed is meta because if the killer waits the 5 seconds and just hits you with borrowed, he wasted 5 seconds rather than just hitting right off the hook like before

in You know I love the base kit borrow... but sadly it comes to a great cost Comment by NamesCris July 21, 2022

@drakolyr said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3078855#Comment_3078855
"Camping hook has always been a non-issue for people who arent hooked. If a leatherface is camping, then literally just do gens."
So, there we have the first problem. The other 3, dont know if he is camping. They either look 1 by 1, or get downed on an instant. Especially with insidious.
Also "Just do gens", with the new slowdown perks, thana for example, on the max is 164 for one gen.
So, until the team got the information, either some more are hurt or run back to a gen, its already the first hook state.
This strategy only works on SWF's.
"And off the record and decisive being disabled after the gates are powered is a quality of life improvement for killer. There was nothing more frustrating than hooking someone when the gates arent powered, they get unhooked, powers the gate and you down them and then you literally can do nothing because all they have to do is hit a skill check and you dont get the kill. and now that they are disabled after the gate it incentivizes more teamwork after unhooking someone to protect them from getting picked up or hit again. Even then they still have dead hard they can use they just have to have the right timing when they use it."
Well i agree with DS, but not with off the record. The perk is deactivated completly, while it only should for endurance.
Also the case is, that its now frustrating for the survivor, cause not only are always every survivor there (especially when you are alone), your perks deactivate now completly.
It should be equally fair.
"Tunneling is a get gud issue on both sides. If a killer is tunneling its going to cost him the game, if a survivor is getting tunneled they are going to have to play extremely well or just take one for the team and get downed.
Slugging has always been around, and I had to deal with it yesterday against a legion with Knock-Out, if you want to prevent slugging separate from your team and then pick them up when you can, otherwise leave them and do gens."
And the same argument is made above. Also if a killer wants to tunnel you out, nothing will help you. And the killer has the advantage of that. Always. In Solo Q especially, since teammates will play selfish.
And with thanaphobia or other slow down perks, with buffed gens doesnt do the job.
"Not only that Thanatophobia is had a 2% change which is barely anything even with added gen time."
Its already proofen thats not true. A full Thanatophobia goes from 90 secs of a gen, to ridicoulus 164 secs of gen time. And with plague, for example, you see fast on which gen survivors are. You are fast infected again and if she gets mid chase her bad vomit, you are down.
Legion is better now, Legion got buffs and legion profits from every buff killer got. And especially gets better with the buffed slow down perks. I dont think Legion is low tier anymore. Spreading also only works on big maps.
"And if the 5sec endurance time isnt long enough, then like run Borrowed time??? Like everyone did before the endurance was a thing."
You know, thats the core problem. Killer now you always get 5 secs of borrowed time. So its useless. They wait automaticly 5 seconds. In solo q, i never see someone take borrowed time anyway.
Sure its a bad teammate situation, but thaths why it need to consider and solo q needs buffs.
Since you talk about your Survivor experience, can i have a look at your steamprofile? Would like to know.

I will argue that there is zero reason to have anyone injured when a killer is camping hook, and usually when someone is on hook one or two are usually doing gens or at least in my case. and if you run empathy and kindred like I do, team information is constantly in your face.

If you are running perks that only benefit you and noone else then thats on you. Better together, Kindred, Empathy (which is way better than bond), borrowed, even key/map addons are great. When I play killer usually every game I get into someone has Borrowed Time which makes hitting the unhooked survivor pointless which is why I still think BT is a good choice especially since it extends the timer to 15 instead of it just being 5 seconds.

Legion still cannot down people with his power without first hitting the entire team, so the point still stands that he is not that great in a chase. At that point hes just an M1 killer.

and for plague like I said if you arent cleansing in fountains then it is on you for letting Thanatophobia be that much of an issue for your team. That being said it doesnt mean that its going to be an easy game it sounds miserable af. but sometimes things workout if you play well enough or they make mistakes.

And regarding off the record the perk is deactivated completely when the EXIT GATES ARE POWERED which is completely fine. If you get unhooked you have 80 seconds of endurance, which is more than 1 minute out of the 2 that the endgame collapse last for. Which gets worse when a gate is 99’d, and is usually the only time people unhook. So its absolutely insane to be upset about that considering how obviously broken that can be if teammates decide to take hits after unhooking too.

in Solo Queue Is Perfectly Fine Comment by NamesCris July 21, 2022

@drakolyr said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3078855#Comment_3078855
"Camping hook has always been a non-issue for people who arent hooked. If a leatherface is camping, then literally just do gens."
So, there we have the first problem. The other 3, dont know if he is camping. They either look 1 by 1, or get downed on an instant. Especially with insidious.
Also "Just do gens", with the new slowdown perks, thana for example, on the max is 164 for one gen.
So, until the team got the information, either some more are hurt or run back to a gen, its already the first hook state.
This strategy only works on SWF's.
"And off the record and decisive being disabled after the gates are powered is a quality of life improvement for killer. There was nothing more frustrating than hooking someone when the gates arent powered, they get unhooked, powers the gate and you down them and then you literally can do nothing because all they have to do is hit a skill check and you dont get the kill. and now that they are disabled after the gate it incentivizes more teamwork after unhooking someone to protect them from getting picked up or hit again. Even then they still have dead hard they can use they just have to have the right timing when they use it."
Well i agree with DS, but not with off the record. The perk is deactivated completly, while it only should for endurance.
Also the case is, that its now frustrating for the survivor, cause not only are always every survivor there (especially when you are alone), your perks deactivate now completly.
It should be equally fair.
"Tunneling is a get gud issue on both sides. If a killer is tunneling its going to cost him the game, if a survivor is getting tunneled they are going to have to play extremely well or just take one for the team and get downed.
Slugging has always been around, and I had to deal with it yesterday against a legion with Knock-Out, if you want to prevent slugging separate from your team and then pick them up when you can, otherwise leave them and do gens."
And the same argument is made above. Also if a killer wants to tunnel you out, nothing will help you. And the killer has the advantage of that. Always. In Solo Q especially, since teammates will play selfish.
And with thanaphobia or other slow down perks, with buffed gens doesnt do the job.
"Not only that Thanatophobia is had a 2% change which is barely anything even with added gen time."
Its already proofen thats not true. A full Thanatophobia goes from 90 secs of a gen, to ridicoulus 164 secs of gen time. And with plague, for example, you see fast on which gen survivors are. You are fast infected again and if she gets mid chase her bad vomit, you are down.
Legion is better now, Legion got buffs and legion profits from every buff killer got. And especially gets better with the buffed slow down perks. I dont think Legion is low tier anymore. Spreading also only works on big maps.
"And if the 5sec endurance time isnt long enough, then like run Borrowed time??? Like everyone did before the endurance was a thing."
You know, thats the core problem. Killer now you always get 5 secs of borrowed time. So its useless. They wait automaticly 5 seconds. In solo q, i never see someone take borrowed time anyway.
Sure its a bad teammate situation, but thaths why it need to consider and solo q needs buffs.
Since you talk about your Survivor experience, can i have a look at your steamprofile? Would like to know.

”Cris Fowler” but on steam i only have 185 hours but on Xbox which is also Cris Fowler I have more than 31 days put into it.

in Solo Queue Is Perfectly Fine Comment by NamesCris July 21, 2022

@JibbyNeutron said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3078913#Comment_3078913
Time will come when? Been playing since 2016. Maybe 2026?

With how you’re acting I guarantee you, that if you go up against an actual competent SWF squad you’re boned. Start recording your games and linking them to prove your right rather than making post about how amazing you are.

in Finally, 1st game with 5 gens completed Comment by NamesCris July 21, 2022

@JibbyNeutron said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3078628#Comment_3078628
MMR is on point already, try again

obviously not if you are constantly destroying people. Your time will come dude

in Finally, 1st game with 5 gens completed Comment by NamesCris July 21, 2022

@drakolyr said:
Its funny that some people make a post, get good games in soloq and claim that its just that.
Solo Q was a bad experience, now its worse. And some people want explanations, i'll give you plenty.
Killer camp and tunnel more, since the update. Its more efficient, since slow down perks are buffed and you can camp scourge hooks.
Against certain killers, you litterly cant do much of gens, thanaphobia with plague and legion on small maps, with 164 seconds on a gen is just ridicoulus.
Second chance perks deactivate at the endgame, where solo q need it the most. Why? Cause seldom people take protection hits.
You need to run kindred, otherwise you dont know if a killer is camping. Or other survivors go for the safe.
The endurance 5s effect is most of the time not helpfull, either killer wait it out or for example a trickster in his fast form can down you too fast.
Selfish teammates, had litterly a match where another survivor teamed with the killer.
Slugging killers are still a problem, with Solo Q, you dont have much of a choice there.
No communication overall, i still think they should introduced the solo q images they are working on earlier.
Teammates often just leave in the endgame, even when they have 0 hooks.
Teammates farming you off hook.

... etc

My problem with this argument, which Im glad you laid out, is that teammate issues are quite literally in every game: Overwatch, COD, League, CSGO, etc. Teammates are always going to be garbage sometimes. And even if they are garbage you’re not completely helpless. Personally, if I escape and I have barely any points, I will not be satisfied. Escaping is the name of the game but so is the tedious grind for bloodpoints, which i surprisingly have heard absolutely noone complain about. Escaping gives you 5,000 extra bp and no other incentive other than a higher unbroken emblem grade.

Camping hook has always been a non-issue for people who arent hooked. If a leatherface is camping, then literally just do gens.

And off the record and decisive being disabled after the gates are powered is a quality of life improvement for killer. There was nothing more frustrating than hooking someone when the gates arent powered, they get unhooked, powers the gate and you down them and then you literally can do nothing because all they have to do is hit a skill check and you dont get the kill. and now that they are disabled after the gate it incentivizes more teamwork after unhooking someone to protect them from getting picked up or hit again. Even then they still have dead hard they can use they just have to have the right timing when they use it.

Tunneling is a get gud issue on both sides. If a killer is tunneling its going to cost him the game, if a survivor is getting tunneled they are going to have to play extremely well or just take one for the team and get downed.

Slugging has always been around, and I had to deal with it yesterday against a legion with Knock-Out, if you want to prevent slugging separate from your team and then pick them up when you can, otherwise leave them and do gens.

Kindred is honestly one of my fav perks and I use it all the time, but I dont think its necessary all the time especially if your mmr is good enough for good teammates. Again an issue that isnt in your control and honestly shouldnt be. If noone is going to unhook then just take the 4% chance and if you fail, whatever, go to the next game maybe with a different loadout or item so you dont get hooked so early.

Thanataphobia is stronger sure but Legion is the most bottom tier killer in the game and is useless when it comes to downing people, just spread out and get out of his terror radius and you’re fine. And then you can just heal a teammate if you get the chance. Similar idea with plague. but this time Just use a fountain. Honestly, a plague with thanat is how i pictured plague would be played years ago because its a good gameplay loop for her because she will actually get her corrupt purge because everyone is going deterred by thanat and use fountains. And if your team cleanses in every fountain on the map it gets rid of all the fountain and plague automatically gets her power which is actually bad for her. Not only that Thanatophobia is had a 2% change which is barely anything even with added gen time.

And if the 5sec endurance time isnt long enough, then like run Borrowed time??? Like everyone did before the endurance was a thing.

in Solo Queue Is Perfectly Fine Comment by NamesCris July 21, 2022

If there is a way to show just how much more I play survivor than killer you’d eat your words rather than falsely assume a narrative that doesnt derail your “behaviour has no idea what they are doing” fantasy. if you look at my old post from 3 years ago I still have the same exact outlook back then as I do now because if you are actually a good survivor then you will “Win (whatever winning is to you)” your games.

@Sumnox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3075647#Comment_3075647
His solo Q games aren't fine, because he doesn't play them. This is another person who mainly plays killer trying to create a fake narrative to make it seem like the changes are fine. There's not many of them in this forum, maybe 10 or 12, just a handful. But they're -extremely- vocal (pretty much you can see the same person creating 5 or 6 threads in a row praising the update or trying to debunk the complaints) who spend 24-7 here, they're extremely biased and upset at survivors in general for some surprising reason beyond comprehension, and will say anything to defend even the most bizarre and ridiculous nerfs survivors get.
They never did care or will care about balance, they care about making the developers buff them to the point they're pretty much guaranteed to win every match, so then they can feel in control of the game, because "killers are supposed to be the power role", but because they can't achieve it through actual skill, they need the game to force a win for them. That's why they enjoy fast pallet breaking, that's why the enjoy no punishment to camping or tunnelling, that's why they enjoy almost instant bloodlust (which rewards and buffs the worst players of all) and want everything handed to them.
This is not all killers. But this is a lot of the most vocal minority of the most entitled you will see in this forum, unfortunately.

in Solo Queue Is Perfectly Fine Comment by NamesCris July 21, 2022

@Grandpa_Crack_Pipe said:
I just want to say.. thank you, BHVR. You finally released the perfect patch. You nuked all the crutch Survivor perks and now they have to rely on SKILL instead of broken, billionth chance perks.
I've been playing solo queue ever since the patch released and i'm glad to finally have some kind of a challenge! Before this it was just way too brainless and easy, I was just finishing my 419th No Mither only Solo Queue escape in a row when the patch finally dropped. All of a sudden, the atrophied, decayed husk that was the Trapper sitting in the corner suddenly came to life, swinging and downing and all of a sudden, I taste my first defeat in hundreds of games. It was REFRESHING.
And all these survivors complaining about how bad solo queue is now, all these STUPID BABY survivors, have you ever tried.. I dunno, getting good? Maybe stop relying on your crutch zillionth chance perks like Self Care and Spine Chill?
Just adapt, bro. If you can't win a perkless 1v1 with No Mither, then why are you even playing? You've had it so easy, and now you have to step up.. and you're just complaining about "too hard" or "horrible teammates" or "literally numerically impossible to win". Maybe try killer for a change?
50/50 survivor killer btw

Solo Que isnt easy in any way shape or form compared to SWF. There could definitely be improvements sure but downright saying its easy when you have to work with 3 strangers, hope they progress gens, and also hide/escape from a killer is asinine. Assuming your MMR isn’t garbage you should at least get competent teammates who understand the objective is to do gens and not get hooked by the killer. But if you are dying instantly in a match it is quite literally your fault, or the killer is cheating.

in Solo queue is easy Comment by NamesCris July 20, 2022

@DemonDaddy said:
Solo all day is my way to play. Seriously think players are overestimating the changes while under estimating how many mistakes they're actually making.
Solo feels good and I'm looking forward to future updates if the devs stay the course.

thats just how we roll my dude and Thats what I’m thinking, I genuinely dont like telling people to “Get gud” but most of the time thats literally what they have to do!