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  • @Detective_Jonathan said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/521954#Comment_521954

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/521956#Comment_521956

    Every clip on my Twitter is them harassing me. And don’t forget I still have your comment on my profile. @HorsePower

    you’re right @Redd some of them are good. But it’s not enough to change my mind

    Why do you still mention of my comment on your profile? The comment is already irrelevant at this point. I've already had countless cases of you dcing in people's games (including mine). You also spew your hatred on other people's profiles when they DC in your game, but the thing is, you literally do the exact same thing.

    You don't even bring up the full story of those people "harassing" you. Like I said before, why do you think you are getting the hate? You're the main issue anyways and your awful attitude in-game is also another good reason.

  • @ABannedCat said:

    Guys, remember if you keep insulting each other, developers will close the thread. They have done that before, and will do it again. Please keep it constructive.

    Honestly, just close it already. I've already lost half of my braincells.

  • @Detective_Jonathan said:

    So glad to see people starting to realize the truth about the streamers in the community, they aren’t good people, and it’s a matter of time before something happens and something needs to be done.

    As someone who was harassed constantly by this group. Thank you.

    Yet, you really wonder why you get the negative reception you currently have in the community (clearly not from the forums).

    "They aren't good people." LMAO, right. Then you go on to say you were harassed by them, when in reality you do the exact same thing in-game and on other social media. You are ascended.

    EDIT: Downvote me bois, downvote the truth.

  • @Judith said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/521893#Comment_521893

    That is your opinion. And you can make one without calling people names because no one will take you seriously.

    If you get offended by someone calling you an "idiot," then you should probably grow a pair.

    You're correct that it is my opinion, I'm still allowed to make one if I put a single term (one that isn't as severe as others are) that offends someone. Saying a argument is irrelevant or one that isn't taken seriously just because of someone saying that small non-severe term is foolish.

  • @Trikset said:

    @HorsePower I believe the advice your looking to portray the Legion's situation post cheese removal can be found here:

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/400/2JT5BOO690LU.png

    To be fair, MOM is a pretty dumb perk in the game. But yeah, seems about right. Thanks for clarifying.

  • Oh I played him, for like 2 straight hours and thought he was fine. Maybe you're just bad XD

  • @ClogWench said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/437979#Comment_437979

    Adapt in what way dude? If someone pays for a product and then that product is changed far beyond what they wanted when buying it, why should they adapt? For that matter, how do you expect people to adapt in general? They did fully gut this killer out. He was already weak to begin with. The only way you adapt to that is just playing someone else.

    What do you mean adapt in what way? How long have you been playing the game? If you've been adapting to every change in the game since you bought it, why shouldn't you adapt to these changes? Legion was broken, period. Anyone not seeing this is either blind or dumb. You bought a DLC with a contract stating that changes can be made to DLC killers after they're released. They didn't gut this killer. The changes are fine and anyone furious with them is either mad that they can't moonwalk anymore or they can't tunnel and down a single survivor with Frenzy.

  • @Andreyu44 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/437944#Comment_437944

    AdApT BrUh!11!1!1!1!1!

    If he wants a refund he is free to ask one.

    Not how this works. Nobody is getting a refund. Like Orion said, no one is denying someone's rights for a refund, they just aren't getting one.

    I'll say it once more, Adapt.

  • Huh? I've adapted to every change in the game since Winter 2016. The Legion changes are pretty solid and I have had no problems with playing as him in the PTB. Only thing I would change is the pallet/vault speed and the 4 second stun on them after getting out of frenzy.

  • No. Adapt to the changes.

  • Hi, Killer main here. First of all, don't be an idiot. You're a VERY VERY biased killer main that doesn't have a single clue on what they are talking about.

    Second, Legion is getting changed because he is simply not fun to play against and has ZERO counterplay. Every single change that was announced for Legion is pretty solid, so not sure what the big deal is. It's not even that bad if you really think about it. Legion will not be worse than freddy with these changes. It's pretty silly to automatically assume this before even testing it. I don't think you realize how big of a difference between 110% and 115% movement speed really is.

    Third, Survivors have been getting plenty of nerfs since Curtain Call (would love to go into on more about that, even before Curtain Call), so I'm not too sure what you're talking about where survivors have been "hating" changes that have been reverted, cancelled, or delayed. Should probably go into more detail about that.

    You seem to be a salty legion player that is very upset that they can't moonwalk as Legion anymore. Poor thing. You're also calling someone a console pleb when they're showing you screenshots of their killer rank. Go cry somewhere else and get better at the game.

    Sad.

  • Finally another bad killer leaving, go cry somewhere else. Removal of SWF will kill the game anyways.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    • Entity Blockers are bugged and don't work most of the time. They've been bugged for nearly 2 months with still no word on a fix.
    • Shouldn't have existed in the first place, but yes.
    • Exhaustion perks were broken OP before exhaustion, so yes.
    • Many loops still need to be changed. Every map still has a psuedo infinite or actual infinites.
    • DS 2.0 was introduced last patch which is arguably worse than old DS and even more unfair regardless.
    • A glorified "concede" button for killers to stop hatch standoffs/survivors holding games hostage is not what I'd call a "buff" but a QOL improvement at best.

    Infinites no longer exist. The only exception is maybe Lerys, but that map is currently bugged. If it gets fixed (hopefully in PTB), there really is no infinites in the game anymore.

  • I have no problem with it at all. The perk itself is fine as it is.

  • Legion is either E or F tier, but he is easily A tier with a disgusting build with Frank's Mixtape put into it. I would also put Hag at A tier. Maybe put Huntress to A tier and move Wraith up to B.

  • Welcome to Dead by Daylight, enjoy your stay.

  • You forgot Bamboozle, Ruin (on Nurse, Billy, Spirit only) and Rancor.

    @pemberley

  • @Kagrenac said:

    Killer: Noed, Ruin, Nurse's, Sloppy, Franklin's, Enduring, Unrelenting

    Survivor: Self Care, Adrenaline, Dead Hard, Decisive, Balanced Landing, Borrowed Time.

    Survivor has more, they also have more perks in general so I'm not sure if the ratio evens it out

    Ruin (except on Nurse, Billy, and Spirit), Nurse's, Franklin's, Enduring, Unrelenting (r u ok??) aren't crutches.

    Except Adrenaline, none of those survivor perks are crutches. You'd have to be the worst killer in the world to even think Self Care is a crutch and even Dead Hard (when it's so easy to counter).

  • @Incirion said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/385988#Comment_385988

    Did you even read the thread? I'm complaining about being able to be blinded when locked in an animation when you CANNOT LOOK AWAY. You can't always look at a wall. I wanted a counter without wasting a perk slot. Even if it's hard to do. The question has been answered.

    Once again, you're making the item useless with that change. It's your fault for being put in a spot like that. You have a few options to avoid this scenario: Bait the pickup, look at a wall, or chase the survivor and immediately turn around and pick up the downed survivor. That's it, killers shouldn't be able to freely move around when picking up a survivor, as it makes flashlight saves basically impossible.

  • Jesus, another flashlight complaint thread? Dude, the item would be literally USELESS if any of these suggestions you made happen to make it into the game. Flashlights have been nerfed SOO many times and killers still complain about the item. I've only been flashlight saved twice as killer ever since they buffed the killer pick up time.

    Here are all the counters you can make against flashlights.

    • Look Up/Down
    • Run Lightborn (literally makes it useless)
    • Run Franklins
    • If you think someone might be going for a flashlight save, bait the pickup by standing on top of the downed survivor
    • Look at a wall
    • Chase the flashlight person and immediately turn around and pick up the downed survivor.
    • Hit the survivor trying to blind you while carrying a survivor, remember to look up or down (these survivors are braindead)

    Flashlight saves are fine where they are and don't need to be changed.

  • She is fine where she is. She is easily one of the top 5 killers in the game. Get better with her.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    This game is very survivor sided, and anyone arguing otherwise doesn't know how to loop correctly and has teammates that aren't working on gens. 75% of the pallets in this game are completely safe for survivors if you run them correctly. And many SWF don't even heal or bother looping, because mathematically they know the gens will done before it will matter.

    You're wrong. The game is pretty killer favored with all the buffs killers have been getting ever since the game was released. I know how to loop correctly and from what I've seen as both mainly a Solo player and sometimes SWF, I do have teammates that work on generators. Not sure what you're talking about in the SWF part (because both things of what you said on healing and looping isn't true), but whatever.

    80% of killers (or anybody) that think the game is currently survivor favored either don't know how to play killer optimally, they camp/tunnel survivors for no reason, or complain about survivors when losing the match when they themselves couldn't apply pressure (boy oh boy have I encountered this so many times).

  • No really, give me the patches. Here's a plot twist, I am also a killer main with almost 4k hours in the game that thinks the game is killer favored and it's really the truth (why do you think I have 10 upvotes on my comment). Every patch that I've seen has had all of it's "changes" explained pretty well. It just doesn't make sense on why bad killers make an excuse on why the game is survivor favored when they themselves fail to improve despite all the killer buffs. Also, that post is outdated (the one from Dec 2017), but I would gladly go through every change if you want me to.

    Oh, wait: https://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/1750106661704236538/

    Might wanna check that post out. It has some pretty interesting data.

    @Wolf74

  • @Wolf74 said:

    @HorsePower

    Feel free to go over all of it. We -killer mains- have done that already multiple times. I gladly give it back to you that you must be one eye blind to ignore all the nerfs to killer and I think YOU can't read patch notes.

    But I give one thing, the Devs don't bring all changes into the patch notes and sometimes they do not mention killer nerfs.

    But hey, since you call me an idiot, I am totally eager to keep discussing with you, because you are such a sweetheart, right?

    I think there is a "all killer nerfs since release" thread in the steam forum, go over it and enjoy.

    No really, give me the patches. Here's a plot twist, I am also a killer main with almost 4k hours in the game. A killer main that thinks the game is currently killer favored. Also, that post is outdated (the one from Dec 2017), but I would gladly write up a document explaining every single change on that post.

    Oh.. wait: https://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/1750106661704236538/

    Check that out.

  • @RSB said:

    Let's see... Window bug, Spirit bugged, Plague got nerfed into low tier, there gonna be a perk literally worse than DS... Yeah, quite a good patch.

    Let's just wait for NPC killers and we can have fun playing ez mode aka survivor.

    Plague isn't a low tier killer. She is easily top tier with vile purge effectiveness addons and mid tier with none.

  • @Wolf74 said:

    Please tell me again when did they nerf survivor at all?

    For every step the killer make towards balance, they get pushed 2 back by the Devs.

    In all the time I play DBD -since 2016- I can only remember TWO patches that had been in overall favor of the killer. Literally every other patch favored survivor and still I hear survivor player complain about "how hard survivor got nerfed every patch".

    I call complete BS on that urban legend. It's fake news.

    You clearly haven't read any of the patch notes in the past 2 years or you're an idiot if you think survivors have received zero nerfs for a long time. Give me all the patches that you claim were in the survivors "favor" and I would gladly counter back. It's not an urban legend when it's the truth that survivors have been getting nerfed for a long time and killers have been buffed for a long time.

  • The first page of this thread literally damaged my brain. I can't counter Billy, so I call him a crutch. Cry more.

  • Hm, I like this counter. Have an upvote :)

  • Absolutely not, he is fine as he is. The only change he needs is his chainsaw hitbox, which is huge and causes some pretty dumb hits that shouldn't have been registered.

  • Clown is my least favorite to play because I find him extremely boring to play and don't really like his design. Legion is my least favorite to go against because they have zero counterplay and is a killer that takes no skill at all.

  • Finally someone on these forums that actually has a brain. I find it hilarious that people still think the game is HEAVILY survivor favored when in reality (trigger warning) the game is pretty Killer favored at the moment. Survivors have been nerfed so many times throughout the games history and killers still find an excuse to claim that survivors are OP in the game.

  • @Detective_Jonathan said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/365007#Comment_365007

    If what i post bothers you so much, then why do you feel the need to comment? You always feel the need to comment on something and say something negative in the process, you barely even play the game anymore, so why should it even concern you. The fact that you have to say some stupid BS like "Another stupid person" makes me want to have Legion as a friend than you.

    Imma end this right now, You don't know what i have seen since you state that Q and E can be used for traveling, Q and E is not only used for that, it is also used for turning tight corners and being able to hit the survivor, if you want proof, ask ryanpez or Quixoticgreen and they will tell you the same thing.

    You're so uneducated that it baffles me, you think that you feel the need to insult someone simply because they have bodied you years back, and the fact that you hold the same grudge as everyone else that hates me, just shows how pathetic this community is as a whole, and why no one can get along. And i will say this one more time, if you don't like what i post, then don't ######### comment on it.

    I am free to comment on anything I see, whether it bothers me or not, it's called Criticism. The only time I say something even remotely negative is if the comment and/or post was full of stupidity (like yours). I don't play the game as much because I've been playing another game that I am starting to gather more interest in at the moment. I said "another stupid person" is because well, it's the truth, you're stupid. Everything I have you seen you say, from the moment I saw you the first time in-game until now, has been idiotic and hypocritical.

    While you're correct that Q and E can be used for turning tight corners, it will barely work against good survivors. It usually only works if the Hillbilly has Tuning Guide and Doom Engravings. I've seen many bad billys try to turn tight corners with Q and E and it just doesn't work that much. If I ever got hit by a billy without those addons and did the exact same thing you said, it was probably the stupid chainsaw hitbox, which is enormous.

    It's not that I am insulting you for me being "bodied" by you "years" back (come to think of it, you only "bodied" me once and that was you playing billy with Haunted Grounds and camped and tunneled almost everybody on hook. Yeah great job buddy, you very good!!! keep dcing against me buddy), I am insulting because like I said, everything you say is dumb, just plain dumb. I barely have any grudges towards anyone in this game, it's just unlucky that you're sadly one of them. If it hurts you so much for insulting you in a post, then I won't comment again. Am very sowwy for hurting your precious feelings.

    See you in the fog :^)

  • Another stupid post made by the same stupid person. I will say this once more, Hillbilly is fine as he is and does not need to be changed in the slightest, except his chainsaw hitbox. Besides, the only time you should be using Q and E is for traveling around the map. You should not be using Q and E when back revving a survivor.

  • @Wolf74 said:

    @HorsePower

    "SC benefits the killer" has been debunked a 1000 times, can you please stop spreading that nonsense? Thx.

    Exactly where are you hearing this? The perk is god awful and I have not used it even once for almost a year. The perk does benefit the killer because like I said, it wastes a lot of time for survivors. Why would I need a perk that would make me waste time for almost 20 seconds when I could use that time to work on a generator, save a survivor, or heal a survivor off the ground. It actually astounds me that survivors would rather heal themselves with SC and not do any of these actions when the game is going in the killers favor.

  • Looking at people post Self Care when it's an awful perk that wastes a lot of time for the survivors PepeLaugh. Not sure why others are posting flashlights when the item has been nerfed so many times.

    I would love to see a Killer crutch thread as I have a huge list of them.

    The only crutch item I can think of for survivors is insta-heals.

  • @Raccoon said:
    MhhBurgers said:

    @Raccoon said:

    It's going to feel very rewarding to down a BT survivor in the Endgame, wasting more than enough time for a gate to be opened,  only to be unable to hook them due to DS.  

    Maybe they'll go down more than a minute away from the gates, but I know that I, personally, will be sticking around the gate area in such scenarios to guarantee my escape.
    

    I'm actually having a hard time understanding how people can't see this combo becoming the new Endgame meta, especially since it's way harder to counter/prevent than vanilla DS. 

    Because endgame will happen less like this.

    Can you explain this?

    The new DS prevents multiple hooks in a row, increasing the chances that:

    1). The game reaches Endgame. 
    2). DS is not burned.

    Have you heard of Enduring? They reduced the stun time to 3 seconds, combine that with 75% stun reduction on Enduring, you're going to be back on that survivors ass in like 10-15 seconds. You can also slug the survivor for 40/50/60 seconds, preventing them from using the perk; during that time, go check a gen or something.If you face more than 2 DS in the endgame, you did a pretty bad job during the whole game. Believe me, there are way more annoying perks than simply DS.

    Once again, stop tunneling.

  • Then don't run it.

  • @Raccoon said:
    Ah, so you let the survivor run free to open the gate/escape in the Endgame, where your actions, such as ignoring the unhooked, carry the most weight in the entire match.

    Solid advice.

    If you're so desperate for a single kill, camp them. If they attempt an unhook, hit them. Waiting for a grab is useless and never works.

  • @Raccoon said:
    FireHazard said:

    @Raccoon said:

    It's literally getting Mega Buffed. 

    Every game will have 4 DS now to "stop tunneling."
    
    I'd suggest getting used to hearing "Ugh" and restarting the chase. 
    

    Also make sure you get used to being placed in literally unwinnable situations in the endgame :dizzy:

    Did you even read the DS nerf?

    Please tell me how to counter multiple saved DS usages (post nerf) in the Endgame. Bonus points if you can tell me how to do.sp off of a Borrowed Time save. 

    SImple. Stop tunneling and go for the savior.

  • Monitor & Abuse and Shadowborn do not stack

  • @Sally55 said:

    @HorsePower said:
    Just another bias killer main post. 

    Next.

    Oh look another biased survivor main post.

    Actually, I'm a killer main with 3004 hours in the game (2.6k of that being killer alone). Good try though.

  • Just another bias killer main post. 

    Next.
  • @Vortexas said:
    Bump, because the survivors are just trolling and not actually replying. (Sorta like a SWF game)

    FACT:

    Voice Comms puts the killer at a severe disadvantage.

    Voice Comms are used by SWF to bully/troll the killer.

    SWF needs to be made more obvious, or have an option for killers to opt out of ques that include SWF.

    1. Agree
    2. Wrong
    3. No
  • @RemoveSWF said:
    I knew your solution wouldn't be to start playing killer yourself.

    Shouldn't you be griefing with your SWF squad now?

    @Vortexas said:
    So what I am getting from this is...

    Without SWF to carry you...OP would die every single match with no exceptions.

    Why do you 2 kids cry almost about everything in every thread on these forums? This post is a joke, stop taking it seriously.

  • Using Tuning Guide + Primer Bulb is almost the exact same thing with Tinkerer or not.

    The same thing applies when using both charge addons on huntress's hatchets (as an exmaple). You don't need tinkerer with those addons, as it really only applies a half second difference.

  • @switch said:
    i like how the devs said it, if you use 2 times any exhaustion perks in 1 chase that means the chase is too long and i agree with them.

    If a chase is going on for that long, it is the killers fault and not the survivors.

  • pretty sure it was FOOKIN DEAD HARD

  • +114864 agree with daddy flare here

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