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  • You can already do that, it's called 99%ting hook

  • Pretty much garbage on anything but the doc.

    Giving more time for survivor to hide/run away isn't a good trad off for a small quantity of bloodpoint expecially considering that it only give bonus point for only one category

  • Probably already told but its a classic.
    "Killer can pallet loop too"

    The guy who said it even made some very ugly merchandise out of it https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/2664716-killers-can-pallet-loop-too

  • It's a perk to make the game more challenging.

    It is already fullfilling it's purpose, no change is needed.

    If you don't want to use it in its current stat then no one is forcing you.

  • @Lowbei said:
    Dragonredking said:

    @Master said:

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    @alchemist_z said:

    Campers make the game less fun and I think they should be dealt with. I want to know if camping would be counted as an "exploit" or "trolling". If I can't report then what is there to do? I would message teammates of what is going on, but between trying to determine if the killer is camping, getting to a survivors steam account, and then sending the message to the other 1-3 survivors it's hard the fight the timer to struggle phase. Were any updates announced to stop campers?

    Why’d you guys report him? He was basically asking in your simple terms without knowing it “is this wrong” and you guys flagged and basically thought “oh, he’s asking a question about if somethings bad, better flag him! Because that totally means he is a bad person for asking a question.

    I agree. Its bullshit he is getting flagged. OP is nothing but polite and respectful in all his responses here. I think the flag button has become the replacement for the downvote button at this point.

    Thats really ironic since you flagged my post about how 50% bonus xp for the killer during SWF would help, simply because you wanted to whine about the games mechanics.

    You are not mature enough for forums. No offense :)

    I must have missed something, since when does you get notificated about who is flagging you?

    Flag me and I will tell ya whether I was able to see that it was you

    For some reason I cant flag myself :wink:

    Sure

    edit: should normally be done by now

    Did you flagg my previous post? I cant see a flag when looking at it and I didnt receive a notification either

    I did, it also said that my complain was registered.

    Ok interesting, can you see the flag in your post
    

    "Sure

    edit: should normally be done by now"
    
    From my point of view there is a flag at your post now, but none at mine
    

    Maybe you cant see flags of your own posts at all

    Don't know why it didn't worked on my end but I can now confirm that you don't get notified that you're getting flag and even less who flagged you therefor @Lowbei is only speculating that @SadonicShadow flagged him unless he told it to him.

    ahh. i know he did, because he posted right after he flagged it that he disagreed with the idea. which is why i found it ironic that he would be talking about flag abuse in another thread at the same time.

    Understandable, but it might still just be a coincidence tho

    Edit: Jebus christ the quote break easily.

  • @RemoveSWF It wasn't there at the start.
    Some antivirus consider it as a virus and block it, preventing game that use it to run.
    It must have been hadded somewhere in october since it's around that time that the first complain on the steam forum about game not running because of a problem with redshell.dll as been posted.

  • @Jack11803 said:
    “Ugh PC is WAY better! Why’d you get it on PS4 what’s wrong with you? PC will never have any problems ps4 won’t!” Well where are those people now eh?

    Redshell is also on the consol version but it is true that there is far less sencitive information that can get fished out by it on consol

  • @WinWIn63 said:

    @Thatbrownmonster said:
    Anyone can explain to a stupid person like me what this does?

    I visited their website and what do they do is keep track of what websites I go to?
    I am confused

    It collects your information
    everything

    Web browsing data,
    computer data, ip address etc.
    purchasing, seling,.. everything
    data mining as well.

    It go as far as collecting the font you have installed on your computer to make a digital inprint of you so they can recognize you on any website or software.

  • @Dragonredking said:
    Depend of what change (if change) is made to the chapter.
    From what I have played I like the clown and he might manage to get me back in the killer (oversized clown) shoes if he doesn't get a huge nerf before or shortly after release that is.

    So I might buy it with money.

    Never mind that, since recent evenement came to light I won't be giving behavior any shekels until they either made all the data collected by redshell public or get rid of it.

  • The fact that it isn't explicitly mentionned that it is used, what it collect and that their no way to opt out make it against the GDPR

    The dev could literally get in legal trouble because of it.

  • Also after diging in the steam forum thread it as been quite a while that they used it.

    I found this thread that date from december of last year by someone that couldn't lauch the game because of a probleme related to redshell.dll => https://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/9/2906376154322412067/

  • I would like to say that I am dissapointed but I would be lying if I said that I didn't expect it.

  • @Jack11803 said:
    @Dragonredking

    I could’a told you that with my 23 flags... none of them for reasonable stuff

    Well you wheren't there.

    Yet...

  • @Master said:

    @Dragonredking said:

    @Master said:

    @Dragonredking said:

    @Master said:

    @Dragonredking said:

    @Lowbei said:
    SadonicShadow said:

    @Jack11803 said:

     @alchemist_z said:
    

    Campers make the game less fun and I think they should be dealt with. I want to know if camping would be counted as an "exploit" or "trolling". If I can't report then what is there to do? I would message teammates of what is going on, but between trying to determine if the killer is camping, getting to a survivors steam account, and then sending the message to the other 1-3 survivors it's hard the fight the timer to struggle phase. Were any updates announced to stop campers?

    Why’d you guys report him? He was basically asking in your simple terms without knowing it “is this wrong” and you guys flagged and basically thought “oh, he’s asking a question about if somethings bad, better flag him! Because that totally means he is a bad person for asking a question.

    I agree. Its bullshit he is getting flagged. OP is nothing but polite and respectful in all his responses here. I think the flag button has become the replacement for the downvote button at this point.

    Thats really ironic since you flagged my post about how 50% bonus xp for the killer during SWF would help, simply because you wanted to whine about the games mechanics.

    You are not mature enough for forums. No offense :)

    I must have missed something, since when does you get notificated about who is flagging you?

    Flag me and I will tell ya whether I was able to see that it was you
    For some reason I cant flag myself :wink:

    Sure

    edit: should normally be done by now

    Did you flagg my previous post? I cant see a flag when looking at it and I didnt receive a notification either

    I did, it also said that my complain was registered.

    Ok interesting, can you see the flag in your post
    "Sure

    edit: should normally be done by now"

    From my point of view there is a flag at your post now, but none at mine
    Maybe you cant see flags of your own posts at all

    Don't know why it didn't worked on my end but I can now confirm that you don't get notified that you're getting flag and even less who flagged you therefor @Lowbei is only speculating that @SadonicShadow flagged him unless he told it to him.

  • @Master said:

    @Dragonredking said:

    @Master said:

    @Dragonredking said:

    @Lowbei said:
    SadonicShadow said:

    @Jack11803 said:

     @alchemist_z said:
    

    Campers make the game less fun and I think they should be dealt with. I want to know if camping would be counted as an "exploit" or "trolling". If I can't report then what is there to do? I would message teammates of what is going on, but between trying to determine if the killer is camping, getting to a survivors steam account, and then sending the message to the other 1-3 survivors it's hard the fight the timer to struggle phase. Were any updates announced to stop campers?

    Why’d you guys report him? He was basically asking in your simple terms without knowing it “is this wrong” and you guys flagged and basically thought “oh, he’s asking a question about if somethings bad, better flag him! Because that totally means he is a bad person for asking a question.

    I agree. Its bullshit he is getting flagged. OP is nothing but polite and respectful in all his responses here. I think the flag button has become the replacement for the downvote button at this point.

    Thats really ironic since you flagged my post about how 50% bonus xp for the killer during SWF would help, simply because you wanted to whine about the games mechanics.

    You are not mature enough for forums. No offense :)

    I must have missed something, since when does you get notificated about who is flagging you?

    Flag me and I will tell ya whether I was able to see that it was you
    For some reason I cant flag myself :wink:

    Sure

    edit: should normally be done by now

    Did you flagg my previous post? I cant see a flag when looking at it and I didnt receive a notification either

    I did, it also said that my complain was registered.

  • @Master said:

    @Dragonredking said:

    @Lowbei said:
    SadonicShadow said:

    @Jack11803 said:

     @alchemist_z said:
    

    Campers make the game less fun and I think they should be dealt with. I want to know if camping would be counted as an "exploit" or "trolling". If I can't report then what is there to do? I would message teammates of what is going on, but between trying to determine if the killer is camping, getting to a survivors steam account, and then sending the message to the other 1-3 survivors it's hard the fight the timer to struggle phase. Were any updates announced to stop campers?

    Why’d you guys report him? He was basically asking in your simple terms without knowing it “is this wrong” and you guys flagged and basically thought “oh, he’s asking a question about if somethings bad, better flag him! Because that totally means he is a bad person for asking a question.

    I agree. Its bullshit he is getting flagged. OP is nothing but polite and respectful in all his responses here. I think the flag button has become the replacement for the downvote button at this point.

    Thats really ironic since you flagged my post about how 50% bonus xp for the killer during SWF would help, simply because you wanted to whine about the games mechanics.

    You are not mature enough for forums. No offense :)

    I must have missed something, since when does you get notificated about who is flagging you?

    Flag me and I will tell ya whether I was able to see that it was you
    For some reason I cant flag myself :wink:

    Sure

    edit: should normally be done by now

  • Here is a quote from a old pal that quited the game a very long time ago since I don't feel like writing an essay my self when it as been repetead over and over.

    QUOTE Camping was intended from the start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS3DvvOQI04

    The devs themselves showing you how to camp and how well it pays off: http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/135512931366729940/

    The devs then tried to change their game to appease camping-haters:
    Stream#20 34:00-38:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OilzAA1LqJM
    Stream#21 17:30-20:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oRfaMJuCPU

    As you've now seen, the devs tried to punish killers for camping, but survivors just abused it. So now the devs seem to be at a point where they're fed up with hearing about camping:
    http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/135513549098969802/

    Here's the Community Manager from the last video (Stream#46, lady on the left), telling us in the forums why camping is allowed:
    http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/135514766278072277/?tscn=1492532427

    The only reason survivors keep telling the devs to do something about camping is because they want their own camping to pay off. I'm talking about survivors camping the hook until the killer goes away. You want to be the hero? This isn't the game for you.
    Survivors already have a way to punish camping and it's called "doing gens." I do this all the time against a camping killer, meanwhile, my teammates keep giving them a reason to camp. You think doing gens is boring? Well, camping with no reason is boring, and if you did your boring part as survivor, killers' camping wouldn't pay off and they would come after you while you do your gen.
    With new killers, there will always be camping, because they need to learn what does and does not pay off. So, stop telling the devs to fix camping when it's YOUR responsibility. Stop cussing and demeaning campers because you're the one that's not willing to learn. END OF QUOTE

    Also if they didn't want people to camp insidious wouldn't exist, the wraith wouldn't become fully invisible when not moving and leatherface would use his chainsaw diferently since the only moment where any semi competent survivor would be grouped is during a hook rescue.

  • @Lowbei said:
    SadonicShadow said:

    @Jack11803 said:

     @alchemist_z said:
    

    Campers make the game less fun and I think they should be dealt with. I want to know if camping would be counted as an "exploit" or "trolling". If I can't report then what is there to do? I would message teammates of what is going on, but between trying to determine if the killer is camping, getting to a survivors steam account, and then sending the message to the other 1-3 survivors it's hard the fight the timer to struggle phase. Were any updates announced to stop campers?

    Why’d you guys report him? He was basically asking in your simple terms without knowing it “is this wrong” and you guys flagged and basically thought “oh, he’s asking a question about if somethings bad, better flag him! Because that totally means he is a bad person for asking a question.

    I agree. Its bullshit he is getting flagged. OP is nothing but polite and respectful in all his responses here. I think the flag button has become the replacement for the downvote button at this point.

    Thats really ironic since you flagged my post about how 50% bonus xp for the killer during SWF would help, simply because you wanted to whine about the games mechanics.

    You are not mature enough for forums. No offense :)

    I must have missed something, since when does you get notificated about who is flagging you?

  • @alchemist_z Your dedication to answer every single post is admirable.
    I excuse my self if my original message sounded rude or acusatory, it's just that it piss me off that the ingame report system is just a placebo especially knowing that Easy Anti Cheat is pretty much a strainer as far as anticheat goes.

  • Not bad, you gained a sub dear miss or mister

  • No it is not,
    And it's because of people that think that it is that the ingame report is completly ignored because they get flooded by report for "camping and tunneling" despite stating MULTIPLE TIME that those aren't reportable offense.

  • @weirdkid5 said:
    Also @Dragonredking damn good point. Completely changing Tinkerer is the same thing, they just didnt change the name.

    The same could happen with DS. They are just too scared to lose them baby survivor profits.

    Thx, but where is my upvote tho?

    Jk I don't give a #########

  • @BLUE_APE said:

    @weirdkid5 said:
    The "problem" with DS is its entire existence. The whole perk needs to be canned and replaced.

    There should not be a perk for Survivors that literally rewards them for failure. That's exactly what DS does. Some people treat it as a free pallet stun, and others require it to even survive the game.

    Such a huge crutch should not even exist in a game with the gall to have the tag "Survival Horror."

    Well hate to break it to you but the Dev's have stated they can't get rid of any perks. I know DS is unfair the way it is, but they can't get rid of it now. All the people who have invested bloodpoints for it would all have been for nothing, and thats more so unfair. I did consider people like you saying it should be gotten rid of, but honestly, I think you killer players would have a much more easier time chasing and hooking if only one person could use it. then any other survivors who have it would hope they are far away from a hook, so they can wiggle free.

    cough cough

    Tinkerer rework

    cough cough

    Reworking a perk to the point of totaly changing it's effect is the same thing as getting rid of said perk.

  • @Nos37 said:
    Most of the dc's I see are against the Doctor. Most of my dc's are against the Doctor.

    Still doesn't warrant a nerf if anything all those people including you should get the stick for ruining over people game

  • @Nos37 said:
    I know how to beat the Doctor. He just cramps my stealthy style, and the matches against him take far longer; especially if the others rage quit. The measures I have to take to survive mean I usually black pip, but I guess it's better than losing several pips by disconnecting.

    So you know how to deal with him.

    So what warrant a nerf against him again?

    Because you don't like it?

  • JUMP! JUMP! JUMP! JUMP!

  • Depend of what change (if change) is made to the chapter.
    From what I have played I like the clown and he might manage to get me back in the killer (oversized clown) shoes if he doesn't get a huge nerf before or shortly after release that is.

    So I might buy it with money.

  • @BLUE_APE said:

    Also big question, has anyone who plays doctor been hit with DS? I have never been able to land the skill check after I have hit madness.

    Yes, it happen more often that you think it would once you hit the purple/red rank

  • Because people are entilted brat

    Your reward for getting the lucky "4%" is a bunch of bloodpoint.

    If any one think they deserve to be let of because they had a lucky "dice throw" they're delusional.

    Do you think that survivor that beg for the "4%" would let themself get hooked if a similar luck based thing was on the killer side?

    Spoiler => They wouldn't

  • How about we hand out ban to people that dc/ragequit?

    Since it seem that they don't want to play the game anyway might aswell show them the door

  • @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    That button was miss used anyway.

    The downvote button is now left to the quote button.
    Any forum that has only up, but no downvotes is kinda pathetic in my opinion.
    And anyway, if you cant express your "down voting" via the button, there will always be other ways and I prefer simply perssing a button (someone pressing the button under my comment) instead of the pointless trashtalking when someone disagrees with an argument but doesnt provide any counter argument besides from "git gut" or "break the pallet"

    I got 70 downvotes in a single day, because i had an unpopular opinion and defended it.
    I also got a ton of downvotes when i proposed a change for the hatch, which included the removal of the hatch. People would only read the first phrase of my proposal and instantly downvote. Very mature indeed.

    And thats a good thing.
    If the majority is agains your idea, you can simply see it by looking at the votes

    It might be bad too show downvotes/upvotes in the profile because some guys think they need to "collect" upvotes, gj facebook btw, but the downvote button by itself causes no issue tbh

    I prefer geting an instant downvote after the first phrase instead of a generic "killer main crybaby" comment believe my idea. Leave the comments for the mature guys with rational arguments and give the kids the option to vent their anger with the downvote button :wink:

    Yes, it would be a good thing,

    If it didn't hide post and whole thread like the downvote system we had was.

  • @Tsulan said:
    That button was miss used anyway.

    Well seem lik they don't know/care that false flagging someone can get them banned acording to the forum rules

  • I wouldn't blame them for not wanting to spend literal hours rewatching really old dev stream to pinpoint the exact stream it happened in

  • @lasombra1979 Literaly 5 minute before they removed it I discovered how many down vote where needed to hide a post in a thread, it was only seven.

    Good riddance

  • Script where banned during the great bot invasion.of november 2016

    I wouldn't risk it if I where you

  • Fresh unpopular opinion

    The forum is better off without the down vote button

  • Do people seriously still need to point of that survivor are jerk in post game chat?
    Out of all my time on the game both playing and watching I only saw 5 kind of reaction here I'm going to class them from the most common to the rarest

    Nobody talk or just say gg

    Killer get name called trash talked because x reason and menaced with useless report

    Survivor name call or trash talk other survivor

    Nice conversation but it's incredibly rare tho

    Killer name call or trash talk survivor

    Ps: Yes I know that most time when someone talk trash the person he talk trash to will most likely reciprocate it.
    The way I did my list only take compt of who throw ######### first and not the response to said #########

  • @GhostRoaster29 said:
    Does anyone know the exact stream in-which Matthew specifically stated that a clown killer would most likely never come to Dead by Daylight because of the phobias that surround the image of a clown. I have literally skimmed through most of the streams and found nothing. Anyone have any idea which one it was??

    It wasn't because of the phobia if I remenber it correctly he was reading QA question one of wich was something like "Clown killer when?"
    and he responded "That would just be silly"

  • Nurse is weak and freddy and wraith are powerfull on console because people on console are casual
    Also you can't reach the same ammount of camera sensibility on a controler that on a mouse.
    Nurse require precision and since her lunge lock on is pretty much awol since her change bad nurse get an even worse time and god nurse have become unstoppable since survivor can't exploit the lockdown to make her hit junk instead of them
    That's all there is.

  • @Jack11803 said:

    @Dragonredking said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @sawerjke said:
    for real though

    They’d never outright remove a perk. That cant really, what’d they say to the people that spent millions of bloodpoints inheriting it, and getting it? “Your fault for being toxic meta [BAD WORD]”?

    cough cough

    Freddy nerf

    cough cough
    That's pretty much the same thing.
    People actully paid real money for him and that didn't stop them from gutting an already weak killer

    I’m fine if they gut DS, I’m just saying they’d never REMOVE it, that’s just not gonna hapoen.

    Gutting a perk the way they did shadowborn in the past or spy of the shadow is pretty much the same thing as deleting the perk ,tho

    Shadowborn as been buffed since by giving it back the fov increase that they took off but still

    Edit:
    Seriously doe what they did to shadowborn was overkill. People where only using for the fov increase and they just decide like that to take it off and made so that the perk only make your screen slighlty brighter in exchange of getting flashlight blinded faster.

    Why would any one run that?

    I can have the same effect by changing my computer setting and that way I don't have the ######### downside that came with shadowborn

    And even when they got ridoff the faster blinding speed it still isn't warrent a perk slot because once again why use a perk slot for something I can directly change on my own screen

  • @Jack11803 said:

    @sawerjke said:
    for real though

    They’d never outright remove a perk. That cant really, what’d they say to the people that spent millions of bloodpoints inheriting it, and getting it? “Your fault for being toxic meta [BAD WORD]”?

    cough cough

    Freddy nerf

    cough cough
    That's pretty much the same thing.
    People actully paid real money for him and that didn't stop them from gutting an already weak killer

  • Are you a generator? Because I can't stand when over people touches you

  • Imo pinnaplle pizza shoul be punished by a death penalty.

    Just saying

  • Because those perk literaly make teams win in tournaments

  • From the feedback I have from friend that play on the console version people are even more ######### to each other than on pc.
    So I don't know how I feel about being matched with/against them.

  • read in a grandpa voice
    Poor innoncent child!

    Back in my day what was required to reach level 50 on a character is what you use now to reach prestige 3.

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