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@Angelicus23 said:
you have the dates in the news already why asking
Maybe he wasn't aware of that. So he asked.
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Dead Hard.
Sprint Burst is good when you're fixing a gen and need to make a speedtmy getaway. Other than that I usually find myself using it by running off toward a hook to do a rescue or jogging to the next gen.
At least with Dead Hard it's reserved until we really need it.
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Yes. It's very South Park.
"OH MY GAWD! THEY KILLED DWIGHTY!"
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No. It should never happen. For obvious reasons.
I only found out about the director's past a few years ago.
On the subject of the franchise: I remember when I saw the original Jeepers Creepers trailer...it looked great. I saw it at the cinema...started off really well...and as soon as the Creeper was revealed as some kind of flying monster...I completely lost interest.
I've never watched the second one all the way through (starts in cornfields and then a school bus I believe) and the third one I did actually watch on Netflix and as a film wasn't as bad as it's portrayed.
But including The Creeper in DBD? It would be a public relations disaster for BHVR. No money should be put in the director's pocket.
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I bet you a pack of toilet rolls.
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@WhatTheHeckMeg said:
I'm not sure how I would feel. I like Pinhead, but do we really need another "Chain-Killer" right after the last one ?
This is what I thought. Everyone was jumping up and down, saying it was Pinhead last time after the chain footage was shown.
I understand we have two chainsaw killers, but two of the same type released one after the other? That's highly questionable.
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It's a real issue. Hopefully it'll be rectified in the not too distant future.
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Only if the survivor is SCOOOOOOOBY DOOOOOOBY DOOOOOOO!
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@Mushwin said:
Simon??? Then it has to be Shaun of the dead ^^ with SIMON pegg in it lol
Bloody hell I would love Shaun to be in it.
Seriously, that needs to happen.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1302231#Comment_1302231
Good point. It might be a copyright issue.
Could well be.
He's known as 'Ghostface' in affiliation with the Scream films, so the space between the words is likely another way of distancing from that franchise.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1302225#Comment_1302225
And torture porn. The Hellraiser franchise has interesting lore and psychological aspects that could be explore, but they're wasted on making torture porn cash-grabs for people who just want to see big blood splatters.
I agree they could of really made something of the franchise as it progressed. There were some interesting paths to go down...but instead it was just nonsense.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1302221#Comment_1302221
Because he has the face of a ghost. Why aren't haunted houses called "hauntedhouses"? Same thing.
But then it's Leatherface and not Leather Face.
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@DelsKibara said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1302215#Comment_1302215
I'm honestly just peeved they didn't call him 'The Ghostface'.
Why did they have to add a Space between GHOST and FACE?
It makes it look so awkward.
Yeah I always write it as GhostFace.
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@Orion said:
Disappointed. Most of the films were clearly cash-grabs.
Agreed on most being cash-grabs.
The original was great, the second was very good, and I like the third too.
The majority of the rest were just bad with Pinhead appearing for mere minutes in some of them.
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Well yeah...the 'The' was a bit silly. But that's the issue with making up aliases for licensed killers, they need that 'The' 😁
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I think they should do away with the nickname feature when adding licensed killers. It can be awkward making up appropriate monikers.
But saying that, it is cool if you think the killers are 'baptized' when they become affiliated with the Entity. Their new title connects to their extention of lore.
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In less than 12 hours, we'll know.
I'm currently at work trying my best not to get coughed and sneezed on.
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@finitethrills said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1302057#Comment_1302057
This is true, but dbd has built in lore. Similar to arguments of Predator being a hunter of the worthy, and xenomorph only being killing machines, existing entity lore explicitly states that the entity will punish a killer until it complies with its wishes.
Funny enough, Pinhead may be the only one immune to normal methods, since he gets off on torture. Then again, he delights in suffering, which a standard trial should cause plenty of. Even then, the entity could possibly deprive him of any sensations for however long it took for force his cooperation, etc, etc.
And in the end, let's face it... They don't care THAT much about making sure everything retains a logical continuity.
I should also say, NONE of the killer's are here to kill. They exist to torture the Survivors. Their primary goal is to allow hope to build and then snuff it out slowly before sacrificing the survivor to the entity. That's why moris are meant to be rare, it's supposed to be a boon from the entity to allow a killer to actually kill.
I think it's logical to say that all the killers in the game now have some connection to the Entity. None are more powerful.
Many horror icons have a ruler, influencer or higher power. The mentally damaged Leatherface was ordered about by his twisted family. Jason was encouraged to kill by his deceased mother's voice in his head. Pinhead was a servent of Leviathan.
So it makes sense that these blood-thirty killers become minions of the Entity. They're perfect candidates.
One element I do like is when the DBD lore 'brings back' a character as they die. For example, Amanda Young. After getting shot, blood leaking from her neck, drifting out of consciousness...and waking again after being intercepted on her way to the afterlife by the Entity. That works well.
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@The_Bootie_Gorgon said:
Who has the rights to Friday the 13th and who has the rights to Friday the 13th part 2...
Victor Miller created the story in the original, which was directed by Sean Cunningham, who continued to be involved with the series.
The dispute is between Victor Miller and Sean Cunningham/Horror Inc.
There are many articles on the subject. A quick google of 'Friday 13th lawsuit' will have loads which explain it in detail.
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Everyone has a preference.
My first choice is Jason, and Pinhead is my second.
Now I understand there is a lot of younger players who aren't familiar with Pinhead or the Hellraiser films. Pennywise is obviously a big favourite because he's been exposed to a modern audience in a popular reboot. Pinhead hasn't.
If we get Pinhead, I will be pleased but disappointed that it's not Jason.
My third choice is Maniac Cop...and that ain't happening! 🤭
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@Cornpopers_Evan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1301851#Comment_1301851
Yeah, the 2009 Jason would have SO few options cosmetic wise to pick from. Unless, of course, the license holders just say "don't care, go nuts" then the door is super wide open. I'm gonna stop talking about this now because, sadly, with the recent evidence that popped up, I think it might be a Hellraiser chapter, which is ever so slightly disappointing but I'd rather have the disappointment now rather than later. Ultimately, it's alright.
Well yes, I just saw 'The King' do another video, this time predicting Pinhead. During which he mentioned he hadn't seen the Hellraiser films. Now there's nothing wrong with not being familiar with a franchise being included in the game: I had never seen any of Stranger Things until the DLC was revealed.
But I am long-time Hellraiser fan, and Pinhead is my second hope behind Jason. But honestly, as much as I like the character and the first 3 films, Hellraiser/Pinhead is not this monumental franchise which is universally recognized. For almost the last 25 years, the Hellraiser offerings have been low-budget disappointments. Whilst always of a better quality and of higher regard, the franchise is now similar in the handling of the Puppet Master series: several films over a short space of time, which really go unnoticed except for diehard fans.
Pinhead is a great fit for DBD, but I am not sure that the Hellraiser franchise is the huge acquisition that the majority of people have been hankering after. Perhaps on a personal level for those at BHVR but not necessarily the wider audience.
The only one that fits the mantle and the hype is Jason.
But if we get Pinhead, I would be pleased. But Jason's my number 1.
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@Rydog said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1301812#Comment_1301812
The 2010 Nightmare on Elm Street film was no less a dead end, and we have that in DBD. And, devil's advocate: I REALLY liked the Friday the 13th remake, it's top 3 in the franchise for me. Kane Hodder will of course always be THE Jason, but Derek Mears is a close second.
Oh yeah, it's not a terrible film. It's just hasn't got much to build on and around. If we had 2009 Jason, it might limit things like new skins etc.
2010 was the same situation. As there aren't any (and won't be) any sequels, there is less to work around.
But in any event, if that's as good as we can get, it's better than nothing.
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@Rydog said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1301795#Comment_1301795
Yeah, I see what you mean now.
I don't know what the particulars of the "off limits" stuff might be after this litigation is settled, since it only pertains to the first movie. But yeah, they could find some creative ways around it in the lore, and Jason the hockey-masked killer was obviously not part of the original film. I guess we'll have to see what the ultimate legal resolution is, but they could very well wind up doing basically what they did with Ghost Face, except more true to the franchise.
It all seems rather confusing about the particulars of what can and can't be used.
This upcoming board game, which uses 'Friday 13th' and 'Jason Voorhees' just came out of nowhere.
So there are glimmers of hope.
Maybe later today we'll get a nice suprise 🤞
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@finitethrills said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1301163#Comment_1301163
Opinions can change. It looks like the remake is the basis for that board game. Of course, a board game is not a video game, either. There's also a chance that Gun just straight lied about it, and that the remake guys just didn't want to do business with THEM specifically. Only time will tell where things will go. Pinhead's case is getting stronger, it would seem.
Well this is the thing. There may of been more to that.
Maybe whoever holds the rights sees there is money to be made here.
Could be that the owners of the remake license didnt want their film associated with the original series in a game. But when it's proposed their version of Jason will be the sole version of Jason in a game, their opinion may change.
To be fair, the remake is a dead end film: it was brought out in 2009 and won't see a sequel. But if in some strange turn of events, turns out to be an available option, I say run with it.
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@Rydog said:
What OP is describing is basically an original character, at that point. The point of having Jason would be to have Jason, not a "just close enough" simulacrum. That's basically what Trapper already is (as is Hillbilly to Leatherface, arguably Legion to Ghostface, Spirit to Ring/Grudge killers, etc.).
FWIW, it seems like the ongoing litigation of the rights to the original movie is inching closer to being settled, one way or another. There hasn't been much movement since mid-February, but that hasn't stopped new Friday the 13th merchandise from being announced. A new board game got announced in April, slated for a summer release. Sooooo maybe there's hope for Jason to be making the rounds in DBD at some point in the future. I think it would be awesome to have a Camp Crystal Lake map (or Camp Forest Green if they must use an alternative name)... and as a formerly active player of Friday the 13th: The Game, I would be so happy to see it happen.
Hi. It's not an original character, it's just doing without the 'forbidden' elements of the character's lore. When we say "He's not the boy in the lake, who later witnessed his mother get decapitated"...we all know he is. We know those events happened yet understand the circumstances to why they're not detailed as such.
But with others mentioning that 'Jason Voorhees' and 'Camp Crystal Lake' are apparently useable terms, the loss of authenticity shrinks significantly.
If the chapter went ahead as The Jason Voorhees Chapter, without Friday 13th in the title, we would still be getting that killer.
It would be disappointing not to include elements of Pamela in Jason's power and ability, but it would be easy scooting round the mother and drowning boy elements when adjusting the killer's lore.
It could be just described that he was left to live in the woods at a young age and that several years later he witnessed a murder.
I agree it wouldn't work to have him brought in as something like the 'Camp Slasher' or 'Masked Maniac' etc. It would need the 'Jason' name in the very least to make it authentic.
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@finitethrills said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1300542#Comment_1300542
That's true, and it fits with the killer having 2 outfit options, according to the leak sites.
2 extra options? Well the hockey mask attires are all relatively similar.
So yes, if we get bag head and Jason X as extra attires...that would be very cool.
Now there is a likely possibility we get the remake Jason, and that would still be fine. No ideal, but acceptable.
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I thought you were going to say "Live or Die..." 🤭 Was thinking ok, calm down Jigsaw.
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Killer - Mr Blobby
Survivor - Noel Edmonds
Map - Crinkley Bottom
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Too much.
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Please be Jaws.🦈
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@The_Bootie_Gorgon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1300796#Comment_1300796
The first movie mentions jason as the boy who drown. There's nothing pointing to hockey mask jason.
Simply say he witnessed a murder and it changed him forever. If we can't elaborate more, it's better to keep it simple and stay as close as possible to his actual origin.
Fans know the real story 👍
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@Cornpopers_Evan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1300796#Comment_1300796
Yeah, I can sadly see Jason getting about as much backstory as Demo. Whatever would help get him in though!
As the majority who play DBD are already well educated with Jason's legitimate backstory, if it's covered only vaguely in the DBD character description, it won't be an issue. As long as the omissions of Pamela and the boy who (supposedly) drowned in the lake don't take away from the gameplay experience, it'll be fine.
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@Cornpopers_Evan said:
I was just going to mention how funnily enough, Victor DOESN'T own the rights to the "Voorhees" name or CCL but sadly people already mentioned it. ;_;
Well if that's the case and it's just Pamela and the boy who drowned...I think we can get by in DBD.
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I heard it's June 16th.
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@Supernaut said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1300234#Comment_1300234
I'm excited for the cosmetic possibilities... Jason X body with F13 2 head!!! :)
If do get a hockey mask Jason, and have bag head and Jason X as cosmetics...I'll be a happy camper.
And even if it's remake 2009 Jason...we can still get that version of bag head as an alt.
We'll have to keep out fingers and toes crossed for his one.
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@ShErMaDeRmA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1300506#Comment_1300506
We would not laugh, we would cry ourselves to sleep
It would be quite amusing seeing the Youtubers react LIIIIIIIIIVE to that. What a hoot.
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Leatherface.
I just enjoy lumbering after people, 'sawing through their pallets and chucking them down in the basement.
Then being a high tier sneakus and waiting for their heroic friends to come to the rescue.
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Imagine if an hour before the reveal, a tweet gets sent out saying it's all been delayed.
We would all laugh eh.
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@Epicu2 said:
Thanks for the feedback! Also, is myers a decent killer?
If used effectively, Myers can be deadly.
His perks aren't what make him, his add-ons are.
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@NekoGamerX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1300411#Comment_1300411
who know at this point i wouldn't be hyped for it if he did he be cropped up ver of him self not really him.
I think we should be fully prepared for some 'cropping' of his character, at least with the connection to his mother Pamela and the (almost) drowning...and that's even if do get Jason.
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She's an interesting killer.
She has a good mixture of stealth approach and charged attack.
Her Reverse Bear Traps, whilst being pretty weak, can act as a method of slowing down survivors at least.
Surveillance is a great perk.
She's one of my faves.
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If Jason does get included, the horror and gaming internet communities are going to go wild. It really would be big and would open conversation for future media.
If it's anyone else, we'll get the usual wide-eyed, gaping-mouth cheek holders posting reveal reaction YouTube videos and telling people to 'hit the like button'.
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Well tomorrow we'll see if Jason is indeed coming to DBD. To be honest, the only other killers who have real mainstream name value are Chucky, Alien and Pennywise.
Pinhead (and I'm a big fan of Hellraiser) and Candyman don't carry that weight. Both are credible inclusions, but aren't groundbreaking.
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@NekoGamerX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1300384#Comment_1300384
like my edit i hope for candyman i mean they can use mirror for him to teleport map could be Cabrini Green housing projects and survivor Helen Lyle.
If they have got Candyman, I would like to see a bee swarm some how used in his abilities.
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@NekoGamerX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1300374#Comment_1300374
well i was bugger fan of Michael Myers and Freddy more i guess.thing with F13 it was more gore porn then scary to me feels like BHVR getting they hand on the franchise more trouble than it's worth.
Well hopefully tomorrow we'll get a surprise. This had been hyped up and the speculation has been rampant.
But whoever it is, the fan reaction is going to be interesting 🤭
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I tell you what, if it isn't Jason or Pinhead...I'm going to be a little disappointed to be honest.
I love the first two Alien films, but the Alien has been in so many games and I wouldn't feel especially excited at it's inclusion in DBD. I reckon he would fit in better as guest in the new Predator game.
I'm not particularly thrilled at the prospect of Candyman or Pennywise, modern or classic versions.
I'm also of the opinion that Pyramid Head is not a valid option.
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@NekoGamerX said:
what the deal having jason in? liek i say i'm the only one who thinks he the most over rated 80s killer.
It's just the popularity of the franchise that makes Jason's inclusion important.
It wouldn't matter so much if this game had just say Michael Myers as the sole licensed killer, but as we have others including Freddy and Leatherface, there really is a hole in the unholy horror trinity.
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@finitethrills said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1300341#Comment_1300341
I definitely regret not having Englund's Freddy, but personality was always half of Freddy's appeal. Jason doesn't really have a personality aside from the famous Hodder head tilt. So I agree, I don't think remake J would make a huge difference here vs OG. I'd always rather see the originals, but I think it's less impactful here. On the side, we also have an entire game full of OG Jason, which never could use the remake one, so it kinda works in a cosmic balance sense.
True. And maybe BHVR will just cook up their own approved cosmetics like they've done with Pig and Tapp.
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Phil Collins: "One more night..." 🤭
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It's a marker add-on used with map. All survivors can see regardless of who used it. It's a secondary action. People usually use it to show where the hatch has spawned. It's not intractable.