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@Grigerbest said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3808737#Comment_3808737
Every time I hear: - "Play for yourself" when it comes to survivor gameplay - I always see it as a crouched Claudette hiding in lockers waiting for a hatch. :D
I mean, even if you "playing for yourself" - you still need to participate in unhooking, repairing, taking hits for teammates, flashlight saves\pallet saves (if possible), etc. Team play - is the nature of survivor gameplay.
This is how developers want us to play as a survivor.
If this is how developers want us to play survivor....they need to make changes to make it worth it. So far the only thing/changes I've seen is longer gens....responding hooks and nerf to distortion. Basically forcing people to either play for the tunneling or have a miserable game experience. Im talking about personal experience and friends who left the game for these reasons. Again, I paid a lot of money in packs, skins etc . Once again .. if I don't want to cater to killers, I don't plan on it. Again...this has nothing to do with disconnecting or advising to do so...
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Dear survivor...even though you paid YOUR money to play a game you have to play it the way killers want you to play it. Sincerely Killer
Basically the same thing you said.
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They made survivor so bad nobody wants to play it. None of my friends..not even me anymore. Add longer gens and hooks that regenerate... Camping, tunneling, nerfing distortion... You can't even run fun builds. Basically as a survivor, you have to just be chased while only running tunneling camping perks. Yeah that's fun. Unless you have a good SWF team....it's not worth anybody's time. How many SWF teams you think are out there? Lol probably not enough to sustain killers and yet we prioritize killers being able to beat these teams because killers go up against them once in a while. Smart move. Should just let them have their fun till it becomes boring but nope, they just made it miserable for the majority
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As a killer it's fun .. as a survivor it's not worth it
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When you understand... This forum.... This game creators etc favor killers, you will understand that this will never happen. They don't care. Pretty sure they even said slugging and camping etc that you shouldn't even report. Once you digest that... You can either move on like my friends all did or switch to killer like I did. It's much easier and more fun.
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@CrossTheSholf said:
Killers have more useless perks or bad perk combos than survivors do, so statistically killers have it worse off
I didn't lose a killer maTch all night. Half the perks I didn't even know so basically ran base killer. Agree to disagree
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@H2H said:
I don’t think this event or DBD are killer-sided.
You know what I learned in 2v8? Survivors do not do gens. At all. The number of games I had where I was the only survivor out of EIGHT doing generators was absurd. I literally started begging people to do gens in the pre-game lobby. It was so much more obvious with 7 other survivors.
IMO, DBD isn’t killer-sided; survivors just refuse to do their objective.
Of course it's not killer favored. 5 matches as killer.... THREE 3ks, ONE 4k and one tie. 5 matches as survivor… 3 tunneling and camping...4 gens done .. one escape on farming killer and one where 3 escaped on a alien. So either I'm an epic killer (which I'm not) or there is some serious issues
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I just got slugged, camped and tunneled… they just don't care about survivors. I'm going back to killer. At least that's fun. Another killer sided event to make survivors even more miserable
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I find getting iridescent on killer is more difficult than actually getting 3 or 4k. Also seems odd that the games I do well I get little and the ones I feel I do bad in get higher points and pips.
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Let's call this event for what it is. Basically a sub killer dream. Somebody who's not very good can just go in as Michael or bubba or quite a few to be honest and look like they are great. If you are extremely good killer it's over too quick and you're not satisfied because it's too easy.
If you are a survivor, you're only hope is to pair up in gen rush and try to get the Jen's done before somebody gets hooked too many times. My successful survivor games had us popping the Gen by the time I got all my first or second hook. Gen rushing however does not give you many points. So once again you're forced to not bust out the gens focus on Chase which usually ends badly or unhooking which doesn't get the gens done once again resulting in a subpar killer getting more points than you. I love the idea of this mode but the execution was just awful.
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@Backmon said:
Because she is useless in chase and remove her camping potential make her same useless as trapper
I dunno about that. I have a nice chase hag build. I think you just gotta know your perks and add ons
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@GonnaBlameTheMovies said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3798139#Comment_3798139
These Killers aren't the strongest normally. Let them have one friggin' mode where they get to be strong for once. At least it's not yet another sweaty Nurse.
I promise you as a Ghostface Main, you can still reveal me in Lights Out. I'm not immune to it. I also promise that they aren't THAT hard to see or hear. Pay attention to the environment.
I'm a Michael. And if you can't get at three kills with the occasional two with a SWF.... I now understand why they like this mode. Yes you can reveal ghostface however as far as the environment and seeing and hearing it's not possible until you're already marked and let's not forget you can't see that far. So you have no idea what direction they could possibly be until they're on you in which case looping's not going to help. Thankfully I'm done with the Time so I can at least put this behind me. If I'm lucky which I'm not going to hold my breath, maybe they'll be a blood point bonus for Killers for once in this mode. Since I've only seen it for a short amount of time late late at night I'm not going to hold my breath. It's just sad because I love the concept of this. It really embodies the jump scare that makes this game fun. But when you're a one hit down it's not that fun or when they're camping. I just hate that Killers can ruin it.
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@doobiedo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3799239#Comment_3799239
I just don't think they can really make the Lights Out mode work the way the want it to.
My gut feeling .... They can't make it work without killers crying. That's why they left Bubbas chainsaw, ghost face, Michael.… I'd love to see the pick rate of this event . I bet I'm not surprised
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I love how the killer base is full of it. You stalk and can't be seen. How fair is that. Watch watch..the darkness? Seriously get a clue or don't respond. They should have made it like 2v8 ..no one shots. Loop him in the dark. In love how you just talk with no basis
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Just get better. It's what I was told about survivor. So I ditched survivor and became a killer and surprisingly I'm much better. Go figure
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@GonnaBlameTheMovies said:
In Lights Out?
Maybe because you can't track with a lot of other KIllers and also jumpscaring with these Killers in the mode is fun.
If it's in the main game, maybe you need to become more alert? They're not hard to handle. You can loop them, my guy…
You can't see them .. light out ...so basically you're an easy mark. It's just dumb
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I agree with Z… got roughed up survivor then jumped to killer... I started letting people survive it got bad
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I wonder … like survivors quitting… how many killers get all upset when two gens bust real quick. I know I've had aot of games where they popped them quickly and I was like ..oh boy.... Only to hold the last two. remember...they only have one tool box..one spare part etc. Two gens are a freebee , the rest you gotta earn
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Not sure how many ways or how many times it needs to be brought up. Survivors... especially solo is unfun. Period. Honestly like I keep saying ... It's been a survivor bonus for a while... Day and night. People will argue it.... Fine..I know what I see. I rarely play survivor anymore. It's just too unfun and boring
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Clown was one of those killers I always hated to play. Found a build I love, have fun with and I've been extremely successful with. Going to be sad when I finish his accomplishment and onto the next killer.
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Nah... Killer is easy. The hardest part about killer is dragging the game on long enough to get a pip. It would be very easy to quickly end any game that I've played however I don't get any rewards for it except for 4K. Or 3K whatever. Basically I have to let them do gen's to kick and let them do unhooks and basically only win by one gen in order to get any kind of pips. Survivor for the most part is just unbearable. That's why I kind of switched
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Id be happy to send you a screenshot shot on all parts of the day. Nights have never been survivor bonus ..now they all are. I assume that's North America East Coast...in the same ... Again...I'd be happy to show you screen shots with time stamps
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Its been a 100% survivor blood points all night long. I've never seen this happen. Soooo what do you think?
FYI... Went up against The Dark Lord once in 20 matches
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Like I've said before, time is precious and nobody wants to waste time on a sweaty one-sided match to inflate somebody else's ego. I am in no way condoning this or encouraging it but just stating how I feel as to why. It's not that they don't like the game it's just that most people have x amount of time to play so why waste it on a game that's just going to be drug out one sided and move on to a game where they're going to get more gameplay. I don't know how but somehow they need to find a way to make even those games worth playing. More blood points, easier pips? Those are all things that I want to look for in a match. When you run into a sweaty killer you get none of that except wasted time.
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@nickoli2233 said:
A brand new killer just came out you goober, of course more survivors are needed.
FYI..I posted this before the new killer came out. Also 95% of my matches..,not the dark lord. I honestly think survivor is so miserable…fewer are playing. I know my swf team…all left. So now I try to play killer more.... difficult because the BP is mostly survivor these days. Bring back 2v8. Nuff said
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Let me know how this post goes for you. Seriously
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3789716#Comment_3789716
Rumor has it they tried to add Chuck Norris as a survivor. He roundhouse kicked the Entity and beat DbD. Killers had a 0% escape rate
I heard chuck Norris hunts the killers and hooks them… then unhooks them and hunts them down again in an endless tunneling match
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I feel like a broken record... When you realize this game...and this forum are just killer sided... It will make things easier for you. Switch to killer. I did and this game becomes easy. It's that simple
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That would make survivors want to do gens. That's unpopular with devs and killers
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Exactly my point . The game is killer driven. However I do wonder if that's why survivor Bo is is more heavy even at night when it was killer... I'm guessing nobody wants to play survivor. That will be a fun game with long killer waits and probably you will get is swf teams…that should be fun for you
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I will keep repeating myself until it sinks in.... This game is catered to killers. Period. SWF teams... Can survive and this game caters to good killers matching them...not average joe or even your casual teams. Want more proof?
As a survivor, I can hide and evade, if I only do gens... I get punished score wise. If I evade, I get punished... BHVR and killers want you in the open. Gens get added time, Hooks now respawn. Basically as a survivor all you can do is gen rush....which is why we have added time because..... Killer cries about swf teams...not average survivors ...SWF gen rushing teams.
As a killer they keep updating, as a survivor it's the same ole game play, doesn't matter who you are…same game play.
I truly hope they bring back 2v8. It was a much more fun game....as a survivor.
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I love how killers always go to "punish survivors for DC or Suicide out" rather than fix the survivors issues. People don't do that for no reason…it's frustration over an unplayable, boring player mode. As a killer I get to switch my game play, as survivor I get to do gens, unhook and repeat... except that killers tunnel, camp hooks etc preventing a lot of game play. They respawn hooks, make gens longer etc etc. What have they done to nerf tunneling And camping?....nothing. FYI, for the kids that like to twist my words....I neither condone suiciding out nor DC. I've screen shot this for the record... I just don't want another ban.
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Wow …I literally signed on to post this. Anybody else notice that blood points bonus has been majority survivor? So im East Coast, it used to be survivor bonus right up until dinner then be all killer bonus. After 2V8, it's been nothing but survivor bonus with very little killer bonus. Which is a shame because survivor is so miserable to play these days because it's boring it keeps getting nerfed and The Killers keep getting stronger with all kinds of crazy add-ons etc. add that it's just not fun to play solo and most people just don't play anymore , I can't help but think survivor is just going to fade out to where nobody wants to play. Bring back 2v8! At least that was fun as survivor
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I know I'm talking to a wall...but survivor is literally unplayable without a SWF team . So it really doesn't matter ....third game in a row where the survivors are caught, downed and hooked before my gen is even halfway done. I'm happy to play killer. So far nobody has survived tonight. But it's sad when you can't play with a friend anymore. Bring back 2v8
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From a survivor standpoint....slugging basically makes people not want to play survivor along with a lot of other things that is basically making solo miserable. Again, this game needs a competitive game play and a casual game play. 2v8 proved that. That was the most fun I've had as survivor since most of my friends gave up on this game for a lot of the listed items here. Even I now play more killer then survivor because it's more fun and easier. Don't have to worry about being paired up with a bunch of potatoes
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15% of the time. What's more common is hook camping. That's like 80% of the time
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I'm pretty sure there is nothing a killer can do to get banned unless they are running a hack. I've sent videos of killers humping me while I'm down and nothing ever happens to them. Heck there are a bunch of videos of streamers doing this.... Yet there they are.
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When you realize this game is catered to killers you start to understand. 1v4 is built for killers. Respawn hooks after survivor dies , because killers complain about not being able to hook. When hooked skills check, useless, DH nerfed, gens time added etc etc. tunneling not punished, not fixed there is zero incentive to NOT tunnel. Killers will complain about SWF teams etc etc ..so they cater so every killer can match them....however what they really did was make solo and really casual players hate the game. I had 5 people I played with on a regular basis.… One by one they got tired of the how killers are given advantage after advantage. Now nobody plays and I'm forced to solo. I don't...I've actually switched to killer. It's sad but at least now I got an advantage and it's been easy. The gem of 2v8... It was fun, friends came back encouraged to play. It's gone…hey play two games and yep..same ole, they done playing it. My hope is that they keep 2v8 as a norm. Even with over powered killers (skill not sweaty perks) you still had a good game
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When you realize, this game is for killers, the forums are really for killers and this forum does nothing , things make sense. Basically just accept it or move into another game. The only real improvement they've done is 2v8. It was a great start and I hope they Improve on their first run. I was finally having fun without dealing with what they have done..... Or.… You can join/develop a SWF team which seems the only way to play survivor these days. Nuff Said
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@Peanits said:
In some cases, sacrificing a Survivor in a certain part of the map could create a hook deadzone where it was not possible to get to another hook in time. This is especially true when Survivors would intentionally run to those areas knowing the hook was permanently destroyed and that the Killer couldn't hook them if they go down there.
The end result is the Killer needing to leave the Survivor on the ground for several minutes waiting for them to slowly bleed out. This was not fun gameplay for anyone, so we've made hooks respawn after a while.
If you want to make changes …make skill checks once picked up actually count for something. Killers can walk across to two or three hooks without iron grip etc. almost makes skill checks pointless even when a survivor breaks a hook.
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Totally agree with this post. Even when you ran into a team of excellent killers...you still got a good full game. The tunneling was minimal and when it was done, it was really just unlucky. The game was balanced. Not once did I have a short game even when we got whooped. Such a breath of fresh air than the sweaty short killer matches it went back to. I really wish they would keep this as an option. Even like they did it before....no pips for having a good game....no chance or ranking etc. I'd be happy with that. It even made me want to play killer...even with the long waits.
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2v8 has been through most balanced I've ever seen dbd. I've had matches where I was unlucky or two very good killers take the match....but even then...you get 5 gens done...play a good game and lose. Same opposite. The only down side is that if you want to play killer....you have a wait with little rewards. id still love to see this standard game play. 1v4 for the suped up ego centric ones with a nice ranking system…2v8 for the ones that actually want to have fun
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Update....that same wesker humped my avatar after downing me and did the same to the other feng. Don't even start to judge me
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I believe it's been mentioned by a few... Not all games are like this. The ones that do...it's better to lobby shop than suffer through a game.
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@Mr_K said:
New players have more integrity than some of the player base. You can 8 hook with 5 gens remaining and they will still try. Other survivors: Get 1 hook with 3 gens about to pop? Well guess I'll die now.
Give them time. Most people aren't insane and when you get the same match over and over again.... They learn...it's not worth being an amusement to killlers
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@Eleghost said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3753187#Comment_3753187
Survivor point gains are abysmal compared to killer. They've gotten better over the years but are still pretty trash. big reason as killer you're scoring in all 4 categories, survivors only really score in 2-3 depending what they're doing and 1 you only get a lot if you escape.
Yeah it's one of my gripes. I can have a good game and lose with such a disappointment in points compared to a sweaty killer who is camping. I'd be happy with a L and good points than a L with a good game is such a low point to reflect it. It deflates my will to really stay in a game that starts badly
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Im not surprised. Even as killer I accidentally run into he same survivor as I just hooked. I'm not ultra competitive so usually I will make sure If I win....I hook them last. Tbh, I think hook camping is a bigger issue than tunneling.
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@Eleghost said:
So you're saying ruin 4 other peoples game because you don't want to play it? Why did you ready up to play if you didn't want to play the match? I have only left a handful of matches in the past couple years when i've played survivor regardless of what's happening whether it's being tunneled or slugged or camped. I never leave killer matches as it's just a skill issue on my part if i can't combat what survivors do or bring.
Absolutely. Most of the time.... They weren't working on winning anyhow. Nobody on gens, some just hiding etc. my level of killer I go against have gone up while the level of my team mates have gone down. It's like a sick joke
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As far as survivor goes.…That s the way it is. Even if they don't give up early too many survivors don't do anything... I've taken my turn keeping a killer busy for a long time to my to see nobody was on a gen and completely wasted. 50/50 of they even unhook me. BHVR has made the killers stronger to battle the swf bully squads.... If you aren't in that group, it's miserable to play survivor.
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Totally agree with you. Now you will notice killers telling you....hey don't play. Same killers crying about swf teams and background player etc. I love this idea. I play my game.…I shouldn't have to suffer through a sweaty match for some losers ego. For every 4 matches that are bad. I get a good one....that good one keeps me playing. Just like everyone says a killer even in an event can run the way they want....I respect that...but if I want an early out ... I'm taking it. I would love this game more of they had a bleed out option as well. Please add this