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Do reports even work?
I've seen many games where I chase someone around a pallet and another survivors runs in to join. I thought they were gonna tag team me but turns out the other survivor just squats at the pallet and blocks the original person I was chasing.
Then the squatter drops the pallet on the survivor after I smack the looper once so he can't clip past anything, and becomes an easy 2nd hit for the down.
I chase down the squatter after hooking the free looper kill.
Easy points. -
Helicopter
Mysterious place
Self-declared savior of your soul -
I think brutal strength should let you kick the pallet into the survivor and instantly kill them (not dying state... outright kill)
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They'd be swinging buses
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Typically only about half the wiggle bar is reached before getting hooked. Wiggling is not effective unless you have teammates that bodyblock so well that you get double the time to wiggle out.
If you're playing solo queue, most of the time there's no point in wiggling. -
Not particularly fun, but free bloodpoints for me.
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Killer is easier and better for farming bloodpoints if you're working to max out every character. The drawback is the lobby waits. Toxic swfs are not very common from my experience
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Remove terror radius for all killers
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I think you misunderstood the upcoming change.
The rescuer does not get his Decisive Strike activated - only the unhooked person.
If you unhook yourself, then you get Decisive Strike activated because you are the unhooked person. -
I prefer killer due to better rates of bp farming (have yet to max out every survivor/killer)
Now if the devs would make more people play survivor so my lobby times aren't so long... -
This forum is majority killer so I don't foresee a big fallout.
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Although I have concerns that my killer lobbies will get even longer than it already is -
We don't have 1:4 killer:survivor ratio in game either.
My killer lobbies are usually long waits while survivors are almost instant.
Playing killer is generally more fun than playing survivor for most people so there's a skew of the distribution in game and in the forums, and by extension the feedback the developers get.
Killers usually come to the forums with emotionally charged issues. Issues that typically make them feel cheated when not able to get 4-kills most of the time. Survivor issues tend to have a more macro view, such as swf vs solo efficiency, mismatch in ranks etc. -
I see survivors run to the killer shack when another survivor is doing the loop, then squat at the pallet to body block the looper. When the killer starts the attack animation, pull down the pallet so that the looper gets hit by the killer and mistakenly assumes he could just clip past the bodyblocker, only to be stopped by the pallet. By the time the looper makes this realization, the killer can smack him past the pallet or pull him off.
Another thing I see sometimes is a survivor running ahead of another survivor being chased and pull down every pallet that the chased one was intending to use.
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ATOMIC_ACE_PUGG said:Short version-the game sucks for new players
Ok
Err... The last part of the post ( or short/tl;dr version ) specifically says it's unfun for new survivors but fun for new killers, which swaps around at rank 1.
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Killers choose survivors by lobby dodging. They dc if they don't like the match they ended up with (especially to deny event points in the last event).
Survivors choose their killers by dc-ing
That has been my observations thus far. -
@AlwaysInAGoodShape said:
@JohnTedThey can't familiarize all the details of each map.
Map familiarity
Correct. It's easier to chase a survivor in an unknown map then it is to optimally loop in an unknown map. This highly contributes to the unequal-learning-curve between killers and survivors.Concept Versus Gameplay
Also, new survivors believe this game to be a different game than it is; They believe they have to be careful to not get found, which is why they often don't do Gens.
They need to learn that they shouldn't be afraid of being found and that they should just do gens, wait for the killer to come to them and enter standard looping procedures . The fact this is unnatural to what they expect the game to be for survivors is what also contributes to the gap. For killers there's no big deviation between concept and gameplay:
-A killer must kill.
-A survivor must rush objectives until the killer picks them for their looping procedure.Team dependancy
A killer also doesn't have to deal with inconsistent teammates.
It takes time to learn how to manage such inconsistencies and building trust systems between strangers takes time to form and typically only form at a higher level.All and all that unequal learning curve is what causes all the imbalance:
If you want to have a standard measure for balance, then the 2 lines should not produce a gap. Only then can you truly balance the game, but that's very difficult.
Even bigger companies like Riot Games with League Of Legends do not know how to properly deal with champions that are strong in the LCS. Typically they become weak enough in SoloQ in lower levels that they are no longer usable.
This largely explains it.
Player expectations
For new players, when they play killer, their mission and play-style is hunt-and-kill. When they play survivor though, their instincts tell them to hide and play safe, which almost always results in their eventual death since nobody is brave enough to do generators. In this demographic, the killer has a very high rate of ending the match with 4-kills.Only deep into rank 1 will you find survivors who work together and make minimal number of mistakes for killers to capitalize on. However, since players have been conditioned since rank 20 that matches usually end with 3/4 kills, there is a sudden and unpleasant change in match results. Killers still expect to end matches with 3/4 kills more than half the time, which is difficult to do against well-coordinated survivor teams.
Because this expectation conditioning, and the developers' balance philosophy (explained below), players from rank 20 to rank 1 feel that killers are OP, and players deep in rank 1 feel that survivors are OP.
Poor balance philosophy
The power of survivors come from player creativity and cooperation. This is a moving target and as survivors come up with new strategies to deal with the current meta, the developers introduce new killers/perks that ironically have small impact on their intended players but end up being oppressive to the rest.
BHVR exhibits the balance philosophy of other games that typically try to make a name in e-sports. Namely, they try to balance the game for the top players. They sometimes address the core issues with game balance by targeting the specific game elements (e.g breaking infinite window looping, introducing Bloodlust etc.), but very often they address those issue by introducing new killers and/or perks. Often these killers/perks impact lower ranked players (i.e a big portion of the player base) far more than it does for their intended demographic.
For example, to deal with windows and pallets (or even just chases in general), they create killers that ignore these elements (e.g nurse, legion). To deal with body-blocking when carrying a survivor, they create the perk "Mad Grit" (no cooldown on attack and pauses wiggle timer when striking a survivor while carrying another survivor). To deal with gen rush, they introduce Hex: Ruin and NOED.
Such a balance philosophy is that the original issues remain issues unless players pick those perks/killers. And it disproportionately impacts newer players more than rank 1 players (e.g Hex: Ruin wrecks lower ranked players while does almost nothing against higher ranked players). This by extension, makes rank 20 to lower rank 1 a nightmare to play as survivor because of oppressive killers/perks designed to balance the game for higher rank 1 players.
Hence the above graph where killers are OP from rank 20 to halfway down rank 1, but then swaps over after that.
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Doesn't that message say the host can't be verified? Which means the killer is the one that EAC is having issues with, since killers host the matches.
Did EAC get an improvement such that now it is capable of recognising suspicious accounts better? Were these killers already shady long before EAC started picking up on their dubious setup? -
Identity V is done in collaboration by Behaviour and NetEase. It's sort-of their mobile port.
http://archive.deadbydaylight.com/posts/2018/cooperation-with-netease-games/