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This feels like a good time to urge the console players to consider https://pcpartpicker.com/b/DBL2FT
Instead of considering the next gen console XSX or PS5, doesn't have to be that one, but that is a real good build for the price.
Not posting for a debate that will go on ages, more of a suggestion.
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If any console player is worried about KB/Mouse, let me ease you. I just switched to PC in February, one of the first titles I bought was DbD, I still use Controller because I personally am not into FPS titles. I am Rank 5 with Killer and Rank 6 with Survivor, nothing to brag about, yet I hold my own is my point. Also I have played some titles where I notice a difference in movements between my opponent and myself, DbD is not one of them. I also seen a post in here, worried about Ping, Latency, and FPS. PC experiences bad Ping/Latency in matches (I do even with 300mbs speed internet), it really depends on what server you get plugged into, and you are capped at 60FPS on PC unless you edit the game files.
Bonus: even the titles where I do notice a difference, its not like I do vs every opponent, its more like sometimes I face 1 individual and go wow, then take the L or move on to the next. Unless you are playing Call of Duty/Fortnite or something similar, I suggest giving crossplay a shot, because for the most part the being worried about KB/Mouse is a false narrative.
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Unpopular Opinion - The Game is my all time Favorite map for Killer and Survivor.
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@Cheers said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1411410#Comment_1411410
Usually, unless I'm playing early in the morning, my queue times are about 15 seconds... especially short around 2/3 pm.
I play a lot of Killer, and experience the opposite, I get on around 6am est. and the queues are 2-3mins from 6am-9am, then around 9am-6pm the queues are 8-10 minutes.
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@Cheers said:
This would lead to killers lobby dodging up until they see someone lower than their rank.
Yes it would help people on the lower range, but the higher ranks will abuse it.
10 Minute queue "alright were in" "nope, god squad"... another 10 Minute queue "alright this is the one!" "nope, another god squad"
"Alright this is the one! LETS GO!"
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@anarchy753 said:
I'm really curious about how it will work. If the killer has poorer internet, does that mean that every single hit they make on a specific survivor may just not register as long as they're running away? How is one hit going to miss then the next one be ok?
More specifically, how fast is it going to register because if I get blade-wipe animations while survivors run away uninjured I'm gonna be smashing that DC button.
Im not sure, we will see soon enough. I am with you partially, If I get "Blade Wipe" animation while they run away, I will be smashing that uninstall button.
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@starkiller1286 said:
This might be game ending for me,. My first few games it's common to lagspike due to poor optimization particularly with notification bubbles going off in quick succession before my computer finally gets a hold on it.
Does this mean the game will double check things like with gen grabs which have been busted for months? I hope not since gens can be blitzed at times in mid-high ranks much less optimal high rank play and a missed hit or two due to a lag spike killing killer agency and effectivly giving a free escape which can cost the game.
If this change makes it through the PTB, I will play open minded, until I am in a infinite chase because the server is negating my hits. Then I will move on.
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@FrootLoops said:
Ok so while I agree with the concern that this could negate some killer hits, let's look at it as any kind of competition. As things currently stand the offensive side gets to declare whether or not they scored a touch down, even when the defense clearly sees they were nowhere near the in zone when they were tackled. In sports you turn to a referee and ask "touchdown or takedown?" and that decision is final. The change they are proposing is basically that. Consider too that from a survivor perspective if the killer appears to have used the force to down them it potentially ends the game for them immediately, where if the server declares a miss then killer continues the chase. I've played matches where the killer appeared to swing at a survivor 10 meters away from me and I went down. I didn't even know he was aware of me, much less swinging at me.
My greater concern is the 60hz change. I believe a lot of the DC penalties are because the server pings out an update and client doesn't respond within a timeout. There is probably logic of "failed response xx times = disconnected". By upping that rate it is almost certainly going to lead to more DC penalties unless they find and fix the dc bugs
I personally have been a survivor, where I am hit nowhere near the killer, and he cant find my body because of it. I dont want that in the game either. Give me a few matches where i face the god squad, only to have my hits negated, I will take the "L" and I will just find another game I enjoy. No sense playing a title, if im not enjoying it. Not trying to sound like im complaining, just more concerned, I currently like this title, I hope BHVR doesn't **** this up.
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@HollowsGrief said:
The tick rate will not help to a noticeable degree. There is a reason most pvp games use client side authority or at the very least a mix of that and server authority. This will ruin killer, and I mean literally make it impossible to play even if you have a good connection. Getting that key hit and downing a survivor just as they vault a god window is the difference between using pop on a gen and keeping the game going and losing that gen and thus the match. This is going to be extremely bad for the game to the point where I will be honestly surprised if it gets past the PTB. If it is past the PTB it will likely just be forced through "we'll fix it later" kind of thing. This is a CORE GAMEPLAY change and honestly a bad one at that. It sucks to be hit through pallets and windows SOMETIMES but it really sucks when you have a 45min que because Killer is literally unplayable. Sorry but I have no faith that they will get this right.
I literally just replied that scenario to the last guy, when this post came through. Totally agree!
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@FellowKillerMain said:
It's definitely a cause for concern, and if it's done wrong it's going to be hell. But, we will really have to wait for PTB to find out. I hope that these changes work flawlessly, and that interrupts will finally be fixed.
If it works flawlessly, then no concern, great for both parties. However I can see chasing a really good survivor player for 2 minutes, finally get that final hit as they are vaulting a window, only for the game to negate it "due to connection" now they are another 30 seconds ahead, and you have to spend what would of been a 2 minute chase, in what is now a 3-4 minute chase. We will see soon enough...
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I think I've been playing PH different than others, I torment survivors, but will not cage them (While running NOED *shhhhhh*). Then when I reach end game I can 1 shot them, followed by Final Judgement (on top of taking the time away to hook, the kill animation is like 2-3 secs, huge time saver). If you don't cage the survivor, even when they are unhooked, they still have torment, which is hard to land (So, why waste it?). I've had many games where all 4 survivors are left, when the last gen is powered, only to get a quick 3k-4k.
Side Note's:
I am fine with the nerf, but I think the aura of the cage shouldn't be revealed to survivors for 3-5secs, so they cant just mindlessly run for the save right away.
Here is a thought, Keep the cage how it was, and let survivors have DS/BT from a cage save, or would that have been too easy of a fix?
From my experience, when you do cage, they typically are sent to the opposite corner of the map, if you want to tunnel, just go that direction.
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Im running BBQ, POP, Lightborn, and NOED. I feel BBQ and POP are what carries it.
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@CyanideBlaze said:
I got camped four games in a row and it's absolute trash. Three times by leatherfaces and a fourth time by hillbilly.
I don't even DO anything, like I don't t-bag, I don't point or gesture, I don't do a single toxic thing and I'm out here getting camped every game--and I know it's not something I'm doing because they go on to camp EVERY person they hook.
One of the times it was a rank 18 killer so I was like "Yeah, probably just new/don't know" but the other two times it was a rank 9, 8, and 13 and you KNOW they know what they were doing.
I really feel like this ought to be a bannable offense. It just sucks to de-pip every goddamn time because I get camped to death, or to be unable to save any survivors because THEY get camped and tunneled to death.
I constantly climb killer to around rank 4-6 then start noticing sweaty SWF's almost every match, mind you I am playing legit up until that point (I main Doctor, Deathslinger, and now Pyramid Head), No Camping, No Tunneling (I even intentionally avoid chasing a freshly unhooked surv), even occasionally carry what would be a 4k to the hatch. Then I get sick of the Flashlight gang, Barry Sanders running around a pallet jungle gym for 3 minutes while the team gets 4 gens done (Oh yeah after a minute and a half, I'm supposed to respect them and waste another minute and a half finding and downing another Surv), Everyone having the same 4 perks, all rank 1-4. Then run into the "Baby Killer", "EZ", "Trash".
So then I bust out my Bubba, and FaceCamp until im yellow rank, with Insidious, Iron Grasp, Lightborn, and NOED. Id say roughly 80% of the time, instead of just doing gens, they come to the hook, attempt to blind me, point at me, and I walk away with 2k-4k with it. Then in the post game chat I get my fulfillment of post game salt, Not that that's what im looking for, but its funny people take a game that serious. So I leave them with the "Entitled Survivor", "4k EZ", "Trash".
In the end I play to have fun, this cycle of climbing from yellow-red, back to yellow, is how I have fun (both legit and camping). Who is anyone, to tell any individual how to have fun on a game title they purchased?
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@nachovsky09 said:
nah i like DBD but the matchmaking times are just plain awful
I Love "playing" it
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@nachovsky09 said:
im also having a mental breakdown with the matchmaking in this game, it sucks real bad
I found a solution!
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@FogLurker said:
Must be region and time of day because for survivor I get a solo queue in about 1-3min, for killer usually like less than 2min; both at red ranks.
West coast at night is when I usually play.
I am Eastern, Im not playing at 3:00 in the morning just to get into a game.
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@[Deleted User] said:
Survivor ques are instant if not 1 minute long at worst.
Killer ques on the other hand... 5-10 minutes and sometimes 15+
Which leads me to believe the title that just raked in its all time high concurrent players by selling the Silent Hill chapter, needs to use that money to buy server space, or these new players who want to play Pyramid Head might say "Ehh I spent like $15 for the game with the chapter, these queue times arent worth it, I'll just take the loss".
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@NoShinyPony said:
Are your survivor queues instant?
Just tested, 1:52 to get in. So thats awesome, the mode I least enjoy goes quick.
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@OutcastEric said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1388691#Comment_1388691
Wraith is not underrated idc what truetalent says. Hes garbage and has a power that does nothing for him without bell noise add ons
Not so much what he "says" its what he has "shown" with The Wraith, as well as what he is currently demonstrating with Leatherface. Any killer is not as good without decent add ons/perks.
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Leatherface and Wraith underrated.
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So run Ebony Mori with pointy boy, got it.
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Hillbilly is a free killer and has the teachable lightborn, if it bugs you that much, its worth the perk slot. At least unlock the teachable lightborn, and get it with your favorite killer(s), then only apply it if you see the 4 man swf flashlight group.
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I mean im on pc and could edit the game files to get whatever i want, but dont want to risk EAC
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@Frankie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1348100#Comment_1348100
That's like saying "I play candy crush on my phone. I'm a real gamer". :P
you told me to drop franklins and your profile pic is literally franklins, get outa here lol
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@Nutty_Professor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1347875#Comment_1347875
Leatherface is one of the killers I main.
Despite being Leatherface's rarest addons, those addons are probably Leatherface's weakest addons. You're better off playing without addons then using those two addons.
Award Winning Chilli: If you bump into an object with this addon, it's roughly five seconds of Bubba in his tantrum (bumping into an object with this addon at red ranks can cost you the game). To make things worst the benefit of this addon isn't even noticeable.
Begrimed Chain: Is kinda pointless too, as if you down a survivor you're either hooking them or slugging them. By the time they are rescued, healed, and start working on a generator the mangled status will be near it's end.
The best addons to use on Leatherface are addons that reduce the charge and cooldown time.
I facecamp with him anyway, so highly unlikely i bump into objects.
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@dark_bassist said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1347875#Comment_1347875
OH NAH that went from ugly to disgusting 🤢🤮
thank you
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I would legit buy them if they looked cool, imagine multiple options, great idea, you could buy like a randomized pack for like $5 for 10 random or like $1 each for specific, just shooting ideas. On top of that, i imagine it wouldn't be too hard for the artwork department to make.
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@jake1989 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1346433#Comment_1346433
yes continue camp - tunnel show how bad you are bb killer, dont cry when others do same with you, gen too is strategy for surv so bb killers stop crying every day, git gud
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@Frankie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1347875#Comment_1347875
First of all - that's not an insidious Bubba build. Replace Franklin's with Agitation. Once you do that, it's a legit build. Also his purple addons suck and nobody would ever use them expecting to do well lol
The fact I have the "Insidious" perk, makes it an insidious build. Everyone plays different. This is actually old, I ran Franklins because I was sick of getting blinded, I just switched to Lightborn. Also, sometimes you burn through the "good" add on's, I agree the purples suck, but they are better than nothing. If I had the option every match, I would run CTG & the grease, the bloodweb isn't always generous with those.
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@chenais said:
In dbd, killers have multiple strategies: they can mindgame or they can just camp and tunnel. Camping and tunneling are really unfun and there is no good argument for defending them. If your argument is "gens" or "its still possible to escape as a tunneled dude" or "killers have to deal with unfair stuff, to", then you better find something else, since I am gonna destroy all of these arguments in this post.
First of all, I need to explain why they are so bad. Camping and tunneling someone pretty much removes any chance of that person escaping.
"Yes but people can do gens, and then its a 2 man escape, which is balanced since 2k is what the balance of this game should be around". Yea, you are right, camping is balanced because of that. But there is another question here: the fun factor. If a game is not fun, then balance does not matter, people will not play it. Here is why it is unfun: first, if you are one of the 2 camped or tunneled survivors, you have pretty much no chance at escaping, which does not feel good. If you are one of the 2 people doing gens, then what fun is this? You are skipping the most fun and interactive part of the game, which is getting chased, to do the boring task of holding m1. So none of the survivors have fun, and fun is more important than balance, since it is what makes people play a game.
Then, we have the "it is possible to escape even while being camped or tunneled". Yes, I agree, it is possible to escape such a situation. However, you are at a massive disadvantage if this is the case. It does not feel ok at all to lose because of a big disadvantage that you do not have any control on. Its like saying "4 man swf it is still possible to win".
Finally, we have the "yea but killers have to deal with unfair stuff, tho". I am gonna reapply your logic so that you can understand that it is not that good. Imagine this scenario: they are 2 countries at war. Country 1 kills innocent people in country 2, so country 2 justifies killing innocent people from country 1 by saying that country 2 did the same. Now, I get that there is a difference between playing unfairly in dbd and killing real people, but this is the exact same argument, just on a much smaller scale.
So hopefully people start realizing that camping and tunneling are not fun. Hopefully they are fixed soon enough.
Have a nice day.
The point of purchasing a game is to have fun doing so. Whatever the player who owns the game deems "fun" within the rules of the game (not entitled survivor rules), is up to them. I have fun Face Camping people, and will continue to do it.
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I play with controller on PC, and wouldn't consider DbD a game where KB/Mouse is really a big advantage. I seem to do just fine against obviously mostly KB/Mouse players.
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@OldHunterLight said:
Are they bannable? I'm tired of seeing the same color perks, saw some really good ones but I just want to know if they are bannable or not
BHVR wont ban you, EAC might, do so at your own risk.
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@Yamaoka said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1334228#Comment_1334228
They're trying to enjoy their spare time like any other human being and you are actively trying to get a rise out of them by playing 0% skill facecamp Bubba and acting childish by saying:
- "rank 13 salt"
- "GOT WRECKED EZ :)"
- "it's bannable but luckily I want to see you again" (targeting players is a bannable offense by the way)
Nothing funny about that really. But you do you.
thats not targetting, if i see the individual again, i will try to hook them like any other. Now if I was solely going just for that individual then sure.
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@PigMainClaudette said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1334240#Comment_1334240
They bought this game to have fun too, but people like you don't allow that for ANYONE other than yourself.
You played poorly and somehow got rewarded for it in your statistics and got rightfully flamed. Ruining the reputation of a killer, and the whole killer playerbase, is not something to parade around the way you have. Even if they have said stuff that they clearly shouldn't.
I'm not supporting the survivors here in any way, but let's be real. You're FAR from being innocent in this.
"got rightfully flamed" "Even if they have said stuff they clearly shouldn't" which one is it?
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@BigBrainMegMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1334240#Comment_1334240
Anyone who has played survivor on this forum has gone through these experiences and there is no justification, there is no way someone is going to say on a serious note "You played very well, fair and fun, do it again."
You're the reason why survivors build up to be so toxic towards killers, why survivor mains and SWF mains have no sympathy for killers.
just don't say anything and move on to the next match.
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@BigBrainMegMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1334228#Comment_1334228
You ruined their experience and you're trying to "lol" about it.
I am just utilizing a game mechanic to have fun, however they feel is of no concern to me. I dont "try" to "lol" over it, I do! I find it funny how serious someone can take a game, just move on to the next match, or close the app and find something else to do if it bothers you that bad.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1334202#Comment_1334202
We all know that a bubba that plays like this doesn’t really have fun playing this but wants the salt in end game chat. The fact that this one screenshotted it and made the thread titled „... all riled up“ just makes it more clear.
but this is of course not defendable as easily but saying „I have fun playing like this“ makes it pretty much not criticizable since fun is subjective and all..
but if this helps to get rid of scum writing that stuff in chat, it at least serves something (if they reported it..)
I didn't report, I would love to play that individual again, I cant speak for the other 3 however.
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@Respectfulnancymain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1334208#Comment_1334208
You do you but imo its just not a fun strategy for either side since its litrally just afking infront of a hooked survivors as killer and just doing gens as survivor
fun is a preference, which i do have like this. maybe they don't, but i bought the game for me to have fun, its my job to make sure i have fun, if they don't that's on them.
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@BigBrainMegMain said:
You're a Face Camping Bubba with NOED. You're literally the reason why people want NOED nerfed.
People talk bad about you post-game chat, you also join.
Then you post the chats on the forums because?
I doubt you'll find anyone sympathetic to you.
not looking for sympathy. just find it funny how "riled up" people get over a game.
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@Respectfulnancymain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1334188#Comment_1334188
You have fun staring at survivors in the basment?
I actually prefer outside of the basement. Most lobbies are SWF so they discuss im there anyway. Outside of the basement, I find the other survivors will come up to me trying to flex and unhook, instead of just doing gens and letting the 1 hooked take 1 for the team.
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@MegaWaffle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1334168#Comment_1334168
Its that lack of moderation with these players that has lead to the toxic community we see today.
Its going to take a long time for BHVR to clean it up too, if ever they do.
While many people may have "thick skin" and be able to ignore this, its unacceptable just how much it seems to go unpunished. I know a few friends who stopped playing this game ages ago because of the slew of hate filled negativity they endured.
It is something that needs to be fixed, I myself don't care, but others might. If you read Mr. Red was actually one of the more peaceful ones in the chat.
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@LALYTHIA said:
So you intentionally ruined their match and taunted them about it in post game chat and it really pissed someone off. Mmmmk.
no not at all, i played the match in a way that i have fun, just so happens that they didn't. I hate getting stabbed 45 times from legion, but dont react like this to it, i give a gg wp and move on.
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@I_Teabag_Gate said:
You're free to play how you want. I've decamped with Bubba as well.
But don't complain when you get hate. You even started fanning the flames.
Again, I do the same, because I enjoy these messages, but I don't then complain about it like I'm shocked. You knew what you were doing.
I never complained, I'm the same as you, I sit back and laugh, I was just stating a fact, Green gets riled up.
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not a bad idea, could be called something like "Over the Shoulder". tier 1 - 15% tier 2 - 20% tier 3 - 25%
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I guess I'm the only Iron Grasp person.
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@LegionOfDumb said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1321650#Comment_1321650
They've at least mentioned the add ons for both Bubba and Hillbilly will be looked at in the future (Seriously, how does a quieter chainsaw help when you have to be right BEHIND someone to use it?!?!). Whether or not this means Bubba will get a full power rework is up for debate.
If you use an Insidious build bubba it definitely helps. If its not an SWF commonly I will hook 1, hide my body somewhat in the distance (Behind a wall, tree, ect.), but still within attack reach and head nodding sight, Insidious so they cant hear my heartbeat, and a Chainsaw file or Carburetor too reduce chainsaw noise, and sure enough here comes survivor #2, insta down both.
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@bubba_is_bubba said:
I am curious, i want to understand the real motivation for which you use MORI in game. Do you use it only VS SWF ? Do you use it because you have not so many hours in game ? Do you use it because... you hate SWF and the huge amount of information they exchange trough Discord, TeamSpeak, ecc.. ? Do you use it only when someone has a Key ?
Write your motivation, and let's have some laugh ! 😁
I typically grind out 1 killer a week, saving up all Ebony & Ivory Mori's (Normally get between 15-30). Then on Saturday, I use them all in a row for that day, nothing personal, the animation is cool, and when i stream, the audience enjoys it as well.
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Benny - Halloweentown
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@DBD78 said:
What date will they tell us?
May 26 at 11:00 am PT