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@Chilli_man2400 said:
Ignoring all the arguments on Jake IMO yes the original 5 survivors need face reworks half of them look like crack addiccs and they look like there holding in a #########
HAHAHAHAHA, I'm ignoring more than half of their posts too.
Why'd they come to my thread to argue SMH...
But yes, the original 4 + Nea needs heavy work.
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@DeadHardMan said:
Enough with this race talk. Jake is Korean, end of story.
As for the OP, I'm hoping they don't alter them to look too drastically different. If they can make them look realistic but still maintain their original characteristics, I'll be happy.
All the license survivors need extra work TBH.
The orignal 4 and even Nea could use a touch up here and there.
Their polygon counts are way too low for 2021 standards.
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Oh, I can say that they know Jake's not based on a Korean look.
They don't care cuz it's just a game, but they do make fun of his rather unorthodox looks.
FYI: I'm Korean 😃
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@Homemade_Cookies said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2077782#Comment_2077782
Then don't say he looks Korean already 😅 if you can't differentiate between difference Asian races.
I can tell an Italian person to say, a German even if they are geographically close.
Maybe you really need to get some glasses hahahaha
There's nothing wrong with Jake's face being modeled after a developer, whether he's Chinese or not.
China is a big country with different races. There isn't a set "Chinese" face.
But I do believe Jake should get an updated model by all means. Even if it isn't too stereotypical Korean (ahem, Trickster)
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Well, personally I really like Feng's new face.
Nea looks worse I agree, but that's the only one I could find.
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Lol, I could imagine Yui as a possible killer candidate. Maybe Yun-Jin too cuz she's pretty ruthless.
For killers, I'd say the Plague seems pretty reasonable. She's a passionate priestess that's all and maybe Huntress.
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He does need some kind of buff though...
He's too one-dimensional. Of course good Trappers are good, but as a killer as a whole he needs a few changes.
I'd say he should start with traps and with at least one active random one.
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@bobspongesweatpants said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075496#Comment_2075496
So at what point in the trial is that?
When there's 0 gens, gates are opened, no hooked survivors and etc.
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075487#Comment_2075487
I was never upset, I'm not sure where you got that from? Either way, I'm finished. Good luck on that therapy session.
Hahahaha sure, Oreo7.
Best wishes for you too 😘
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@FrenziedRoach said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075490#Comment_2075490
fair enough. I respect the mostly-civil discussion. I, for one, did not perceive you as hostile. Passionate? Yes. But not hostile
It's the internet and texts can't convey emotions.
I love when discussions become heated. It means opinions are clashing and that each others' messages are getting somewhat across.
Nice talking to you though.
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@bobspongesweatpants said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075381#Comment_2075381
When do you consider the trial to be over?
When there's nothing more I can do except wait till the survivors leave.
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@FrenziedRoach said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075467#Comment_2075467
Can't tell if serious.....
Doesn't matter, was more for the spectators than you anyway. I'm not going to pretend for a moment I changed your mind on anything.
It's fine.
I can't change yours, you can't change mine.
I at least know what you were saying, so you do you!
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075446#Comment_2075446
Nobody called you out on anything? I think you're the one that needs help with reading comprehension. People have stated over and over their claims and you've only made it sound as though you're looking down your nose at them. In fact, @Hecktic3000 even said in his last comment that you've come off as hostile this whole time.
"Responded civilly" my foot. You've called people prejudiced, desperate, and entitled, all while acting the same way you tell people not to. Do you understand yet?
Someone has their knickers in a twist 😂
They've stated their claims and I stated mine.
I never said you were wrong and I am right. There's no right or wrong in this. That's why I'm willing to discuss.
If you become too infatuated with the wordings I have chosen instead of the essence of my message, then it seems you really do lack the reading comprehension skills or is just ignoring what I have said.
And I frankly don't care if I come off as hostile.
I'm calm as a sea right now, tbh. Just tired, that's all.
And it is a fact that I have responded civilly for 98% of my posts.
Also,
- I've called a player prejudiced for saying something very prejudiced (he admitted it)
- I said camping at end game was an act of desperation not that killers are always desperate.
- I said people claiming getting last minute kills with any means necessary is being entitled.
None of the things I said are wrong nor defaming in my books. You just need to add context to them.
If you feel offended, then fine. It's your feelings not mine...
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@FrenziedRoach said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075320#Comment_2075320
You say you don't expect killers or survivors to go easy on anybody else. Except when to camping I guess then? Because when I hook somebody, have another downed on the ground nearby, and a 3rd clicking the flashlight behind a palet 16 meters from me, I now know where three survivors are with a 4th unknown and 3 generators left in the game. My safest play would be to stay near the hook as at the most, I might lose 1 generator as long as these other two are accounted for and not going anywhere and be down a pair of hands for the rest of the game.
But according to your logic, that's not fun for anybody. BS, because I'm in a strong position here and I'm protecting that position. Your logic dictates I should leave which MAKES ZERO TACTICAL SENSE. If people don't like that, that's on them for stepping into the arena with a random that is playing within the contraints dictated by both the game and it's devs.
The only real sportsmanship within the game (outside of not being a dickhead in post game chat) that exists is helping each other out of bugs. If a survivor gets stuck because of a bug, I'm not going to take advantage of that because that is clearly not intentional. I'll do my best to free them and send them on their way. If they do something that makes me think they are victom of a co-textual menu issue that gets them caught (such as opening a chest when they clearly meant to vault the window next to it), again, I'll let them go.
THAT'S SPORTSMANSHIP AS IT CLEARLY WASN'T INTENTIONAL GAMEPLAY
But engaging in a tactic that has been explicitely santioned by the devs themselves? Please - get over yourself.
Yes, I'll get yelled at. Just like I get yelled at for picking Doctor, just like I got yelled at for not engaging chases too far from my remaining generators. Just as I get yelled at for doing anything else people just don't like facing. It just means they have no bushiness playing the game because they clearly can't deal with how it beats them. That's their issue, not mine.
I get into these threads because I want people to realize that getting themselves worked up over how somebody plays in a manner that for all intents and purposes is intended is a waste of time - people are always going to do it. All these people are doing is working up their blood pressure over something that is supposed to be their leisure time. They need to take the fact they are getting so worked up as a warning sign and re-evaluate why the hell they are putting themselves through this pain.
Okay, you do you buddy :)
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075420#Comment_2075420
You've been actively saying camping is trash and garbage and when anyone calls you out on it, you go back and say "well I don't complain about camping because blah blah blah everyone else needs to suck it up". That is what you've been doing in literally almost every comment you've made. Obviously I know you have a vendetta and you're in need of a therapy session, but the least you could do is stick to your story. This is getting stupid and it's because you can't make up your mind between "camping sucks" and "I've never complained about anything, ever".
Okay, Oreo7. Imma lay it out like how I teach my young students, okay?
I have a problem with camping in general, yes.
But here's where it gets divided:
NORMAL CAMPING
- It sucks, yes. It ruins the fun for everyone else yes. In fact, I've said this in the very first comment in this very thread itself.
"Survivors also have to play selfishly or must replace the hooked one instead.
Both don't get objective points and both waste their time.
So it's ultimately a crap experience for both parties.
Camping forces killers to stick to one survivor and do nothing else."
DESPERATE CAMPING AT ENDGAME
- This is the one that I call as a "hissyfit"/"Tantrum" where killers feel entitled to get kills when they absolutely deserve none. I find this worse than normal camping in all aspects.
Okay, now that we got the two difference clear, let me tell you that nobody called me out on anything.
I still stick by this, have stuck by this and will stick by it.
What others have done is made their own reasons why their opinions differ, which I also coherently answered time and time again, civilly.
You got that now?
I'll also take your advice in seeking therapy. While I do that, please do me a favor and go to a library and read some books. Your reading comprehension needs work.
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@Hektic3000 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075368#Comment_2075368
I give killers a pass for just playing the game just like i dont care how survivors play the game. Both sides have different goals, i dont care or go out of my way to complain when survivors escape but they always complain when i kill them. You keep acting like killers killing is unsportsmanlike and automatically bad when its not. Doing gens and eacaping is just fine and ill never condem survivors for it since that's their end goal, i expect them to view killing the same way. There is nothing that killers can do that survivors cant counter, i expect them to find the best way to handle each situation and adapt because that's all i ever do as killer.
Ugh, you know what.
I'm sick and tired of saying the same s^&*#t over and over again.
Listen, buddy.
I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH KILLERS KILLING.
Hell, why would I play a killer if I have a problem with killing in the first place?
It's the method that is being used! Got that now?
It's how you kill I have a problem with.
And if you want to find exact reasons for this, you have 15+ posts to read about.
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075402#Comment_2075402
So a killer who brings an endgame build for the sole purpose of using it during endgame doesn't deserve to get kills because he didn't get any before the exit gates were powered? Think about what you're saying here. And guess what? None of those builds don't require camping.
With that mentality, you're not "growing" at all, and you can stop acting entitled to having a match with a camping killer. And before you say you're not, you're whining about how obnoxious camping is way too much for you to really not be bothered by it.
And I was never complaining. In fact, I specifically said I didn't mind it too much, at least not enough to do anything about it. Did you even read the original post?
I mean, it'll take a 5 year old kid less words to realize my disdain towards camping.
No s^*#t Sherlock, where in my words do you see anything that positively views camping?
I'm surprised you just realized this.
Also, I'm not saying YOU, Oreo7 was the one complaining.
I'm saying I never camp, therefore I don't complain it being complained about like some players. Player, Zaytex being a prime example.
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@Zaytex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075334#Comment_2075334
Sure, it can be prejudice or whatever and I do recognise both sides complain to a degree and not every survivor or killer even does.
But from my experience, playing either side I see a massive amount of more salty survivors who act petty, entitled, and spoiled.
I mean, how many killers do you see going "Don't do gene" VS "Don't tunnel or camp" who play survivor?
Definitely option B
You acknowledge you are prejudiced in your own words and yet you ask me, a player who criticizes both roles whether I see more toxic survivors than killers?
Don't make me laugh.
You already made up your mind about survivors, so there's no meaning in answering your question.
There's no point.
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075392#Comment_2075392
Now you're abandoning your only objective left, which is the main objective-- go for kills. You're called a killer for a reason, right? And you don't have much room to complain about survivors gloating and wasting your time if you're not willing to do anything to get rid of them.
Like what sort of face-camping bubba monstrosity did you run into that traumatized you this badly? Do you need therapy or something? Even I don't have this much of a problem with face camping... like you said, just brush it off and queue up for the next match.
If I wasn't able to secure kills DURING the match, I sure as hell don't deserve any at the end game.
With that mentality, I'm able to grow as a person and as a player, cuz I'm not entitled to anything.
Just like when I play survivor.
If I failed to survive, I don't complain about killers being OP. I just move on and reflect on my match.
Oh, and by the by. I'm not the one who's complaining about camping being frowned upon, cuz I NEVER DO IT.
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075381#Comment_2075381
So just totally give up and boo-hoo in the corner when there's 3 survivors left and the egc just started? What a load of bull. I'm sure not even you would do that.
You can prolong the game, sure, but not for an infinite amount of time anymore. EGC got rid of that. If you're so impatient, either chase them out or DC.
No, I'll tell you what I do with no BS whatsoever. I swear on my entire family lineage just to be sure.
I literally go around breaking every unbroken pallets that has been left behind.
I also look for the hatch (if there is one) and try to close that too.
That takes up a good chunk of endgame time mind you.
I sometimes see despicable survivors at the gates and I just go as far as possible from them.
Sometimes they'll follow me, clicking their flashlights or doing smth obnoxious, but I ignore them till they eventually leave or they get stabbed by the entity.
It's not too hard. I don't need to stoop that low to feel good about myself.
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075349#Comment_2075349
He meant they have nothing else to do, because there are no other objectives. There are no more gens to pressure or break, no more totems to protect unless they have noed or their devour somehow made it to egc. What other option is there, besides standing in the corner afk and letting the survivors waltz out the gates?
THAT MEANS YOU LOST THE MATCH. They were better than you, end of story.
Just give up on that trial and go to the next one. Why's that so difficult?
and shame on whoever prolongs the game than being necessary.
I hate when survivors do that and gloat near exit gates.
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@Hektic3000 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075349#Comment_2075349
Taking it seriously, no im just trying to stop the constant disrespect killers get for just playing the game. What do you suggest killers do in that endgame situation? It seems like you want to say that they cant do anything, shouldn't let themselves be put in that situation in the first place, and should let all survivors escape. Im not spinning things in any kind of way, you seems to have a personal vendetta against camping and nothing can change your mind. If someone dies from camping just load into the next match for gods sake. But if i say that it's me being a toxic butthurt killer right?
You keep giving killers a pass for "playing the game" while you don't give any opposite viewpoints of any of your arguments.
Frankly, I have.
I can't stand both survivors and killers playing unsportsmanship-like and I call them out for it.
You and many others, on the other hand keep covering bad actions made by killers with all these excuses.
Oh, camping is fine cuz we deserve kills.
Oh, tunneling is fine cuz we need to kill in order to win.
etc etc
So tell me then, what is smth that killers do that should be prevented?
I would really like to hear from someone who finds none of the actions done by killers reprehensible.
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@Hektic3000 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075328#Comment_2075328
Alright so im gonna stop you right there, no one barged into anything. This is a public forum and i can see the context of conversations just fine. In the context of camping during endgame the killer literally has no other objective aside from the person on the hook. It's not desperation its just a fact that they have nothing else to do so why try and shame them for it?
You take this pretty seriously don't you?
Also, what do you mean they have nothing else to do?
Is camping their ONLY option? If they don't camp do they get kicked out of the game by the system?
Get out of here with that BS, buddy.
I can't tolerate soft-minded BS like that and it ticks me off.
They ARE doing it out of desperation. You can spin it however you want it to.
You think I've never been in that situation before?
I lose. Boo hoo. Too bad.
Just queue up for the next match for god's sake.
And they say survivors are entitled. Oh, the irony.
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@Zaytex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075296#Comment_2075296
No matter what you do, survivors will complain, because they're spoilt and disrespectful.
You win pretty easily or quickly? ''Oh my god, tryhard, sweaty, OP killer''
You struggle and lose? ''Wow, you're so bad, how are you rank 1..?''
God, I'm getting really bitter at survivors now lmfao
Wow, pretty prejudiced of you to say the least huh?
Only survivors who complain 24/7 about EVERYTHING are spoiled little bastards.
Just like killers who complain 24/7 about EVERYTHING are spoiled little bastards.
Not all survivors and killers are the same mind you.
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@Hektic3000 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075301#Comment_2075301
Being hooked is expected from the survivor side tho. Again camping is not throwing a tantrum, throwing a tantrum is survivors yelling at the killer for doing their only job, killing survivors. Survivors are never not able to save anyone being camped, so why do they get mad everytime? Children don't know any better so sure people will appease the child to not make a scene. This however is a game where death is a constant and survivors goal is to TRY to eacape, but when they cant and are defeated they accuse the other side of not playing by the rules.
Well, since you barged in a conversation you wouldn't have gotten the context of that "hissyfit" argument.
To recap, I was comparing tantrums to camping when killers become desperate for any kills near the end when they have done miserably during the match.
I don't find normal camping to be tantrums at all. Just poor decision made by dumb killers.
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@FrenziedRoach said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075290#Comment_2075290
Your problem is that you are writing rules into the game that don't exist.
In football, there is a rulebook that decides how points are scored and what boundaries you don't cross. Video games have these as well. The code itself dictates what you can and can't do. And whatever the code can't cover, the devs will often outline by specifically prohibiting certain behaviors.
THAT IS THE ONLY RULEBOOK THAT MATTERS IN RANDOM VIDEO GAMES
You'd have a leg to stand on if the devs say specifically not to camp or not to tunnel. However, they refuse to do so. At the most, anytime an exploit is found that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to stop these behaviors (IE, blocking an unhook prompt), they've fixed the exploit.
Doesn't matter what your personal feelings on the matter are. If a person "chooses" to go easy on their opponent, that's their own personal choice. But you CANNOT expect others to be the same. And it's objectively unfair to expect others to live by rules that aren't enforced by the devs or the games code.
I never said I expect killers or survivors to go easy on someone else. Vice versa.
What I am saying is that camping is a inefficient way of playing the game which ruins the experience for both parties.
Oh and regarding football, those rules are so arbitrary that it gets revised all the time. Nonetheless, sportsmanship is a common feature in all competitive game. The same should be for DBD.
If you argue that such "rules" (I dunno why being a good sportsman is considered a "rule" in the first place but oh well) are not written in stone and therefore can be discarded, then you do you.
One of us will be screamed upon and frowned upon and we'll see who it will be.
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@Hektic3000 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075233#Comment_2075233
You keep equating the killer camping to them being mad or throwing a hissy fit when its not either. In many cases camping is the best play a killer can make. Its never with the intention to ruin the fun of one side, its just playing the game. Players should always look at being hooked even once can mean death, you're not always going to get 3 hooked. As much as people can play hyper agressive and get 12 hooks, if i choose to defend hooks whats the harm in that?
No harm to you, of course. After all, you're not being hooked and losing the game right?
And regarding camping being the "best" option. Sure, it can be, but it doesn't mean it's not a hissyfit.
A child wants a toy, and it knows throwing a tantrum in public will secure it, cuz it always works.
Of course, the child is happy and will ask "what's wrong with me using a viable option to secure what I seek?", but for the parents and the people around it will probably sing a very different tune.
Just change child to killer, toy to kills and tantrum to camping and it'll make better sense.
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@FrenziedRoach said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075211#Comment_2075211
False equivalency. We're talking about pickup games with no house rules.
If I was in a KYF with house rules - then yes, that's poor sportsmanship.
But playing within the confines of the game using tactics that the devs themselves have said repeatedly are allowed and not bannable do not apply.
People are always going to play to win in random games.
I really don't see any difference between real life competitive games and computer ones. Even if it is NOT KYF.
Just because rules don't specifically mention every single dirty plays as fouls doesn't mean it's not accountable.
In football, you can tackle players and cause them to slip and fall. As long as it is playing by the rule and not too excessive, it's all good.
But spectators can see which player plays dirty and which don't.
The same goes for this game or any other game tbh.
Just because the devs say "camping and tunneling are viable options" doesn't mean they promote people doing it often, cuz they know it's not good for the game itself.
Of course, this applies to survivors too, don't get me wrong.
My point is that just because there isn't a rulebook that lists everything out, it doesn't mean it's frowned upon.
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@Hektic3000 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075179#Comment_2075179
So we talk about fair play but the killer doing his one and only job to kill survivors is always met with "you're ruining my experience". People shouldn't get so upset about camping and tunneling because im not preventing you from playing the game, its one match where you didnt make it out, load into another one. Just like killers aren't entitled to kills, survivors aren't entitled to escape.
They're not entitled though.
That's my entire point.
No need to camp, no need to throw hissyfits, no need to gloat.
Just try your best and if everything else fails just go to the next match.
You could probably regain your lost BPs in your previously bad games in the next one if you do better.
and if you still can't do that, then maybe he/she doesn't belong in that rank, just saying.
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075211#Comment_2075211
Calling people "toxic" and "obnoxious" for the way they choose to play... and you're arguing people need to be nice to each other and have fun?
What a great example you're setting.
Well, I never mentioned someone being "toxic" but okay I'll let that slide.
And of course I'm going to criticize someone if their method of play is unsportsmanship-like.
So, yes I hope I am setting a good example for others.
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075197#Comment_2075197
That article means nothing here, because my whole point was that you cannot change how other people want to play the game.
Camping is fine either way. Yes it bothers me when I'm camped at 5 gens still, but after 3 gens and no hooks, I expect it. I still wouldn't consider it garbage though. That's the way the killer felt like playing. And I felt like not letting it bug me.
Is that a crime?
Fine, if you feel that way, who am I to convince you?
You do you sweetheart and have a blessed day.
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@FrenziedRoach said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075183#Comment_2075183
The other person's fun is the last thing on my mind when I'm in a PvP oriented game. If a person can't handle getting their asses handed to them in a manner they disagree with, they have no business playing the game in the first place.
I'm not saying that to be edgy or mean - that's just a fact of gaming. We have literally hundreds of games to choose from. Why waste time in one that makes you so miserable you feel the need to project your way of thinking on to others to the point of calling them toxic or obnoxious when it can be argued there's tactical reasons for that strategy.
If somebody is dumb enough to get downed between the last 3 gens, there is literally no reason to leave the hook. To leave the area is the epitome of stupidity tactically. And I'm sorry, as you said "too bad" regarding blood points, I'm not about to "dumb down" my play to spare another player's feelings. You either come into the game bringing it, or you don't. If you can't handle people who bring it, then ask yourself why are you dealing with it - because you aren't going to put a stop to it either way... why put yourself through that hassle?
You do realize that competitive games have always existed throughout HUMAN HISTORY right?
Case and point, every single athletic games have always been competitive (i.e. football, basketball etc)
That doesn't mean there shouldn't be a glimpse of sportsmanship.
Your "competition have no room for ethos" is a rather crude argument since competition has been present all this time and yet people are still expected to be a good player with good sportsmanship.
Why should computer games be different?
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075179#Comment_2075179
I'm aware of that. I've respected killers and they've respected me. And even better-- I've still respected killers who camp and told them "gg wp" because despite the camping, I still had fun playing against them. As long as the camping wasn't the whole game long, it's fine.
So then, tell me. What is "fair play", exactly?
So judging by your statement, as long as the duration of camping is tolerable it's fine?
Even though I don't really get your standards, I guess I'll respect it.
Oh, and regarding fair play, the results are a google search away.
Here's a start though, take a good read:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportsmanship (Redirected from Fair Play)
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@Seraphor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075166#Comment_2075166
Nah. I've hooked a survivor fair and square. If they want that survivor back, they have to come and get them. I have no other objectives if all the gens are done. They have to risk getting hooked themselves if they want to rescue their team mate, not "play dirty" by baiting me out while another goes for the rescue and they all escape.
If the survivor on the hook was so capable, they wouldn't be there.
See what I mean? One rule for survivors, another rule for killers.
Why don't you grow up and get over the hooked survivor you can't save, instead of playing dirty to get them?
What?
What is that logic?
Am I arguing over whether a survivor has the right to get hooked or not? NO
I am specifically talking about CAMPING. Stick to the topic please.
You can down anyone you want. It's their fault sure.
But camping is a stupid decision to make as a killer.
It's both obnoxious for both parties and why would you want to make a match like that?
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075158#Comment_2075158
I have, I just don't see it often enough to recognize it. To come into this game and say "that's not fair you can't do that!" to something that's a part of the game is the same as walking into a bar and telling everyone drinking is bad. Is anyone going to listen to you? Of course not.
Do you even know what "fair play" means?
If you do, you wouldn't have made that ignorant statement.
There are plenty of times when killers and survivors gave respect to each other, regardless of who won.
That wasn't because they were friends, it's because both acknowledged their prowess and never made the game feel atrocious.
Camping is the complete opposite of that where it makes one side feel much superior than the other without much strategies to counter it.
That's not the same as the aforementioned example now is it?
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075151#Comment_2075151
If you've never seen me, you must be blind, because I made the original post. In fact, I specifically said exactly what you said: "I get frustrated when things don't go the way they should, and I may not get the points I need. But that's just how life works."
Are you switching sides then? Because it now sounds like you're agreeing with me.
You declared that I was an individual who had past history with you, which I denied the claim.
And regarding that small part, yes I do agree.
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@Seraphor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075147#Comment_2075147
Did you read my initial post?
Being in those situations, where you have no choice but to camp, knowing that if you leave the hook you're GUARANTEED to lose (not just let them make a rescue which you can claw back, but actually lose the game entirely from) is just as 'unfun' as getting camped.
If I see two survivors boldly standing in front of my at minimum safe distance baiting me out for a guaranteed hook rescue, that's just as 'toxic' as camping. There's nothing I can do I that situation, the survivors have all of the power and I'm their #########.
So what do I do? throw the game, lose the sacrifice bloodpoints and let them win? Why can't the survivors do that? Why can't they let the hooked survivor die and lose out on the altruism bloodpoints? They may even still escape themselves.
You've already lost in that situation, buddy.
If you were so capable in the first place, you wouldn't have ended up in that situation.
So, like I said. You are basically throwing a tantrum just to keep a few kills that'll make you feel better about yourself.
Grow up and get over it.
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075134#Comment_2075134
There is no such thing as "fair play" in dbd. If you're going to complain about what's fair, then find another game bc this one's not for you.
Lol, I meant it as a terminology not a feature of the game, but whatever.
No, there can be fair plays.
No camping.
No Tunneling
No T-bagging
No obnoxious survivor BMing.
etc
Maybe you never experienced a match like that before.
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@Oreo7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075028#Comment_2075028
I hate to say it, but you sound just like the person I was arguing with elsewhere. My point was that sometimes its necessary. If you don't believe that then you probably have never played killer. I've only played killer once or twice, but even I have had situations where I was either forced to camp or someone went for the save the second I hooked and took a step back and then accused me of camping.
Never seen you before so that's a first for me.
I have played plenty of killers before.
Sometimes I get frustrated when things don't go the way they should. But still I try my best and I may not get the points I need.
TOO BAD.
That's how life works sweetheart.
I don't need to camp and ruin people's enjoyment simply I want to secure a few kills. I hope you get that.
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@Seraphor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075134#Comment_2075134
I expect you to be offering yourself up to the killer as a sacrifice then, if you don't consider winning to be important.
Is that what you got out of my statement? Hmmm okay.
No, I don't go up to a killer and sacrifice anything. Why should I?
If I play as a survivor, I did my best and that's that. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose.
Same with playing killer.
I sometimes let survivors go if I enjoyed a match or so. It's nothing that's demanded nor is it compulsory.
Just playing the game as it is and doing your best is what counts. Camping is for little brained people who can't do anything but to abuse their powers sorry.
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@Seraphor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075028#Comment_2075028
I'm sorry. As a killer, I shouldn't want to win?
Survivors are allowed to do any ######### things they like but killers are expected to throw the game for the benefit of survivors.
If you really don't know the difference between fair play and dirty play, then I have no words for you.
Whenever I play as a survivor or a killer I don't do everything in my power to secure anything.
I don't secure kills nor do I with lives. Just play and whatever you do is the result.
Being a sore loser and camping just for a few kills is like looking at a kid throwing a hissyfit. It's pathetic not to mention selfish and obnoxious.
I don't have to play a game where I must forego my dignity and sportsmanship just to win. That's how a 5 year old child thinks. Just saying.
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@Seraphor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2075000#Comment_2075000
There are cases where camping is a valid or necessary option.
EGC, in order to secure a kill, you have to camp. You literally have no other objectives as a killer, no more gens to defend, you only have your hook and the survivor hanging on it. If there are three other survivors in the game, then by trying to go for another on you are almost guaranteed to lose the one you've hooked and finish with 0K.
You hook someone, and you 'know' for a fact that there's another survivor right there ready to rescue the moment you leave. You saw scratch marks or something similar. What option do you have? Even if you're running anti-camping perks like Devour, leaving the hook will end up with that survivor being rescued before you get far enough away for it to trigger.
You hook someone, and there are TWO other survivors plainly standing in your FoV, not even attempting to hide. Their obvious plan is for one to bait you away while the other goes for the rescue. Both standing at minimum safe distance so that even should you go for the chase, you probably won't catch them anytime soon. They'll run you for 2 minutes and then all the gens will be done.
This is what rank 1 killer matches look like.
There's nothing to be substantiated for the validity of camping in any situation. It's still a personal choice.
You want to secure a kill? Fine, camp.
Does it ruin the experience still? Absolutely.
Your necessity to secure a kill shouldn't dictate the way you play the game, but if you are willing to play dirty just for a measly kill or two, go for it.
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Camping is literally the most selfish, obnoxious method of playing than anything else in DBD.
Camping forces killers to stick to one survivor and do nothing else.
Survivors also have to play selfishly or must replace the hooked one instead.
Both don't get objective points and both waste their time.
So it's ultimately a crap experience for both parties.
If you are here to camp, then you need to go find another game cuz this one's not for you.
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@Seoul said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2074749#Comment_2074749
I love Feng too. I was mostly playing as Jake but now I’m playing as Yun-Jin. She’s so pretty and I love her perks. Her and Jake are my favourites. I love them both sooo much. I think I’m going to dye my hair blue soon because hers is super cute. 🤣
Once Jake gets his updated face/model, him Yun-Jin and the Trickster could get K-Pop cosmetics as a trio. (You know... cuz they're Koreans. haha)
I was surprised he didn't get a skin for Seoul Collection though.
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I like your attitude.
It's nice to see a post that's not about "Trickster is garbage tier" or "BHVR screwed up big time this time".
As far as new maps. I think one is being developed slowly for the All Kill.
The cosmetic trailer seems to indicate some urban city-like map which has never been seen before in DBD.
Nothing promised though!
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Yep, happened to me for some survivor perks.
I think it's for you to have an easier time spending BP.
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@Homemade_Cookies said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2074216#Comment_2074216
Yeah, just like real life money.
But if you have things to invest in, such as character progressions, BP doesn't become so common does it?
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2074217#Comment_2074217
Funny thing is, not every match you go up against is the same killer.
So that means if I had 10 matches, only 10 people lost TWO addon tops.
hahahahahaha
I mean, sure for killers.
But survivors lose 3 (Item + two addons) so it's more detrimental for them.
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@Homemade_Cookies said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2074203#Comment_2074203
I never said they were loopholes. I said gun laws in America HAD loopholes.
Strong/OP addons are pay2win. Simple as that.
Too poor of BP? You suffer.
Got loads of BP and want easier matches? Here, buy yourself boosted items!
Pathetic game design if you ask me.
To be fair, I think addons (especially the super powerful ones) turned into loopholes.
They were supposed to be ULTRA RARE, but without a expiration date or a timer, people started to stack up on them and since the game is 5+ years old, the "ultra rare" part is more of a joke now...
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@Homemade_Cookies said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2074185#Comment_2074185
The Trickster was a failure of a killer so I wouldn't stoop that low.
Okay, hear me out.
You do have a great point and I wholeheartedly agree that some addons need to be looked at.
But you have to realize that certain killers can't function at all without them. Now does that mean addons are okay? No, but at least it means not every single purple+ addons are OP.