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  • Some guy just told me camping/tunneling Nurse and Blight does not exist. lol

  • @Grigerbest said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3096101#Comment_3096101

    Who the hell is camping as a nurse or blight? Dude, what mmr are you playing at?

    I'm sorry but this is really an alien stuff to me. You're playing against baby's then, I can't imagine otherwise, if you having a camping nurse or blight. -_-

    Apparently, your "baby" Nurse and Blight have 3000+ hrs in the game with full perks and add-ons. That you don't see doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Good for you not to have that experience.


    Also, low MMR Nurse or Blight won't be a problem if they camp. But what I found are those who know how to play, but still camp and tunnel.

  • Currently, it's not that difficult to tunnel.

    1. Camp or patrol around the hook survivor
    2. Hit the hooked survivor immediately after he/she is rescued. Deep wound kicks in.
    3. Tunnel that survivor to your heart content.

    This is what I found 5 matches in a row today, and even while there were 4-5 gens up. This patch doesn't solve the issues as deves intended. It's getting worse. And I no longer have faith in the devs, honestly.

  • My matches yesterday and today: camping and tunneling consecutively. Mostly Nurse, Blight and Spirit. Great game...

  • Totally agree. No matter what I play, solo or swf, all I found was camping and tunneling to the max, all sweaty and stressful games. We died a lot, but nothing changed. I assume MMR is also broken as well. Time to take a break.

  • @Deadeye said:

    I just noticed the few games today that most killers commit on tunneling even harder than before the rework. Let's see how it is in the next few days. I also noticed as killer that tunneling is way easier, almost no DS and when u get it, there is almost no distance. Even less distance than after a BT hit.

    I'm gonna try being more fair tomorrow and see how it goes xD

    I found more camping killers. But let's see for a few days if how it would be for survivors. Meanwhile, killer life is surely better.

  • I don't like this killer mains VS survivor mains thing, but from your points of view, it's clear where you stand.


    Solo-q is always weak even with the current state of the game. Try solo survivors and see how many times you escape or how much bp you get after a match. Sometimes, it's not people's stupidity, but because there's no communication whatsoever so you see your teammate do stupid things.


    The new patch doesn't buff survivors in any way so the situation will only get worse. That 5 sec BT won't do a thing if killers decide to tunnel. Camping is even stronger (and you never mention that). Use 5-sec BT near the exit gate equals free escape? Yeah if they manage to do all 5 gens and you decide to hook the survivor there...

  • It's good that killers are buffed, but survivors are also nerfed as well. So, it's not like killers are better and survivors stay the same. We all know solo-q is the worst experience in this game, and most players are solo. So no surprised that they are upset with the patch.


    What's more, camping and tunneling have never been properly addressed. This patch will make a little bit harder to tunnel, but it does not prevent camping. In fact, it buffs camping with 10 sec more on gen repair. No one is happy when they wait 5-15 min for a match, got camped, and leave with 4-5k bp, doing almost nothing.

  • I'll try a bit to see. But I guess survivors will have more unfun games with camping and tunneling buff. If the bp after match worths the pain, maybe I'll stick to it. If not, I'll try killers or stop playing for a while.

  • Honestly, bp survivors gain after a match depends on the play style of the killer in that match. You can have 4 escape and give the killer a hard time, but the killer's bp will usually be higher than the well-performed survivor in that match.

  • @MrsMaliciousX said:

    I think killers camping too close to a hook the eurvivor should get teleported somewhere else. Kinda like p heads cages. It's bs. Played on ps4 earlier and had 3 straight games with the same dude, Bubba face camping every single time for 3 gens. And of course, my teammates were call captain saveahoe and we lost...it's absurd, and at 5 gens

    ...it's getting horrible. And I feel like it's not gonna change, people just want to ruin fun for the other side.

    Honestly, that style of play will continue to exist as long as the game mechanic allows it. And honestly, the devs never seem to care about this. They've never said anything about it recently. I know camping is a strategy, but sometimes it's too extremely and ruins the fun of other players.

  • I don't know about RPD though. Survivors hate it. Killers hate it. So both sides hate it for some reasons.

    For the rest, that is the horrible experience of being solo survivors, the most miserable people in DBD.

  • How about they make the hook mechanic like that of Pyramid Head's cage? If killers stay near a certain distance from the hook for a certain duration, the hook and the hooked survivor just teleport to somewhere else. This mechanic, however, will stop once the exit gates are powered (or opened) because at that time it's reasonable to camp.

  • There's no points talking to him because he admitted that he never plays survivors. All he cares is his fun, so no point talking to a troll.

  • @Huntressmain_1223 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3018840#Comment_3018840

    I want a healthy game as well, I never said it was ok for killers to camp and tunnel and I don't personally do it as well, I'm just saying, all I hear the survivors constantly complaining about it, I don't know how you guys want us to play the game as it is our job to kill, we are on opposite sides, we are not here to always make friends.

    I'm just speaking for the side, I play as, SORRYI don't play a survivor. It's just my opinion

    it amuses me when people think I'm taking something personally because I'm giving my opinion

    Sorry, your words totally show how you take things personally and feel salty about others' opinion.

  • @Huntressmain_1223 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/330199/change-on-camping-and-tunneling

    I find it funny how survivors constantly, honestly complain about tunneling and camping, sorry for the killers just doing their job.

    I play both sides and I just want a healthy game for both sides. Never once I said that killers will be op after this update. Just point point out something unhealthy I find about it.


    Anyway, it amuses me when I find some players, especially killer mains, take things personally and complain back as well.

  • @ChurchofPig said:

    You can't camp with new Monstrous Shrine because it doesn't do anything unless you're 24 meters away. They could add something like "If you're within 10 meters of the hooked survivor, it will slow down the hook state progression by 15%" or something like that. It would help address camping.

    Sorry, I forgot about that. However, camping with insta down killers (or even normal killers) will still be an issue.

  • @Shroompy said:

    You need to be on the main menu, not the killer/survivor select screen

    OK, I got it. Thanks.

  • Thank you. That also means I use less power when I make trail of torment, right?

  • @Primalux135 said:

    Yeah me as killer had that bug and indeed Its enought time to reach a pallet 60-70% of the times.

    Yes, but I used it in front of the gate, and I couldn't reach the exit in time due to this bug.

  • What rank are you at? A low rank killer may struggle to find a match. Time also affects matchmaking. In my region, it is difficult to find a killer game during the day.

  • I think the current state is more "balanced" than before. Yes, it can still be improved, but I think the dev is doing their job. It is not that easy, especially in a game with 2 sides like this and with the majority of the players playing one side.

  • The queue time varies depending on the region and the platform. It takes me only 30 seconds to find a killer game, but 5-8 min for a survivor game.


    Anyhow, I somewhat agree that the rank gap is too large. Six ranks apart mean different skill level. I'm rank 11 killer and going up against a rank-6 squad is not a fun game, especially when they are swf most of the time. I tend to get -6 instead of +6 in matchmaking.

  • Thank you guys for the useful info. :)

  • I don't know if it's just me, but I'm confused with this protection hit. I was healing my dying teammate and the killer hit me. My teammate got the stack, but I didn't. Also, I didn't get the stack when I was hit around injured teammate.

  • @NuclearBurrito said:

    I would like to point out that the thing where survivors would go immersed forever was ALSO not banable

    OK. I think it is obvious that lots of people here have problems with reading.


  • @Tsulan said:

    Have you thought about adding Unbreakable to your build?

    No more slugging!

    If you had read my post carefully, you would have known that the killer had closed the hatch. And even if I had used Unbreakable, the killer would have just downed me again since she was there and I couldn't get into the hatch.


    :)

  • @Tzeentchling9 said:

    *Survivors wasting an indefinite amount of the Killer's time* "Just find and hit them."

    *Killer wastes 2-3 minutes of a single Survivor's time* "Wait, that's illegal!"

    For those who said survivors used to waste killers time, I always disagree with that behavior and I even started a topic on that issue. You can see what responses I got.

    The situation is this. I killed 2 survivors and there were 5 gens left. The rest 2 survivors did not do anything. They kept hiding.

    That is why I agree with EGC. I hate it when people waste other people's time purposefully. I know it is not bannable. That's why I ask if should. Or at least, they should do something to prevent or relieve. You can disagree with me, but I beg you read the post carefully before making a stupid comment. Thanks.

  • @KillermainBTWm8 said:

    it's basically the killers version of teabagging at the exit gate but it shouldn't be bannable because then people would want to ban even teabagging.

    I don't think this is comparable. They are both humiliation, but killers can just hit the survivors to make them leave. On the other hand in my case, survivors can do nothing but wait for 3-4 minutes to be sacrificed or bleed out.


  • @feelsEUmang said:

    Stop being a lil crybaby and accept it. A hatch standoff would've been 10000000x worst.

    Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

    It's not about win or lose. I already lost at that point and I got it, but I had to waste 3-4 minutes when I could start a new match instead.


    Are we saying that toying with other people or bullying other people are ok?

  • @Tizzle said:
    This is frustrating I'm sure but in no way shape or form is it taking the game hostage.

    There are several tools in the game to prevent this and your job as Killer is to find the Survivors.

    If they are engaging in gameplay that doesn't go towards ending the game (not doing gens to escape/only hidding) that's taking a game hostage. Its just like if you have a Doctor who is sitting next to all 3 gens doing nothing but shocking people and never going for a hit, that too would be taking the game hostage.

    If that survivor who was hiding at least attempted to get a little progress done on a gen then hide while sneaking to another, they are at least attempting to play the game meaning its not taking anything hostage. When the intent is to simply prolong the match with no benefit to yourself then you are forcing everyone to stay or forfeit the match, meaning taking the game hostage.

    I wish we have more civilized people like you who contribute to the topic without talking trash.
  • if the survivor have the option to leave (hatch) and doesnt have a high risk to get caught but still hide. yes, then hes holding the game hostage. but youre a dick and camped/proxy camped, tunneled, lag switching, derank or some other stuff. theirs no other way to have 5 gens left with 2 survivor. and if they could do gens without getting killed instant, iam sure they would do. but a hag spamming his traps on grounds to camp gen/hooks is impossible to fight against. i hope you learned your lesson and play the game as its intended to be played. otherwise just go afk and leave them victory.

    Sorry, I used Hillbilly and they made mistakes so I can kill 2 while there were 5 gens left.

    There are other games where all 4 four are killed while there are 5 gens left .Go see some famous killer main streamers before making an accusation so you don't look stupid yourself.
  • @Catastrophe said:
    ILuvCampingRec said:

    its your own fault if you was a dick and now hes trying to win with a still valid strategy. however he cant take game hostage, because he dont have any other option too win. if he gonna do gens, you kill him. he also cant jump through hatch. what is left? youre right, hiding until the dick left the game. however you could end such games in seconds if you want too but you decided too search 30 min. for him.

    Another trolling argument without giving a valid point. What is the way to end the game without losing the point?

    stay in the corner afk and you will see he will do gens within few minutes and gonna left through hatch. their are no trolling arguments you just understood nothing.

    So it's not different from others' opinion here. Afk and do something else. And you don't seem to consider the possibility that svs really want to troll you and refuse to leave the game at all. I had a game where they could leave but decided to keep hiding as well. So I made this thread to ask if it is bannable or at least try to find a solution to this. This actually happens and if you have never experienced one, I hope you get one so you understand.

    My advice - make your argument clear next time. Don't make it ambiguous. Also don't be a dick and use bad word. People will understand you better.
  • RemoveSWF said:

    That's not holding the game hostage because you can do something to end the game. It's holding the game hostage when a killer blocks the stairs and the survivors can't escape and can't die.

    You just need to git gud.



    plain old bullshit.
    Sadly it's not consider holding the game hostage unless a survivor is in a spot where the killer can actively not hit them like on a car it's not considered taking the game hostage.



    the situation i am referring to is "the gates are open, yet no one is leaving".  perhaps a little different than the initial post.
    That is equally annoying or even worst. You can leave but decide not to do so just to troll the killer. It's bs deserving punishment. Some svs actually do this to killers and we cannot do anything about them beside alt+tab and do something else. Seriously, killers should be able to end the match in some ways if this situation occurs without having to waste points or time.
  • its your own fault if you was a dick and now hes trying to win with a still valid strategy. however he cant take game hostage, because he dont have any other option too win. if he gonna do gens, you kill him. he also cant jump through hatch. what is left? youre right, hiding until the dick left the game. however you could end such games in seconds if you want too but you decided too search 30 min. for him.

    Another trolling argument without giving a valid point. What is the way to end the game without losing the point?
  • RemoveSWF said:

    That's not holding the game hostage because you can do something to end the game. It's holding the game hostage when a killer blocks the stairs and the survivors can't escape and can't die.

    You just need to git gud.



    plain old bullshit.
    Sadly it's not consider holding the game hostage unless a survivor is in a spot where the killer can actively not hit them like on a car it's not considered taking the game hostage.



    the situation i am referring to is "the gates are open, yet no one is leaving".  perhaps a little different than the initial post.
    That is equally annoying or even worst. You can leave but decide not to do so just to troll the killer. It's bs deserving punishment. Some svs actually do this to killers and we cannot do anything about them beside alt+tab and do somethi. Seriously, killers should be able to end the match in some ways if this situation occur without having to waste points or time.
  • I think it can be run only with Scarred Hand and you need a new strategy with them since you can't teleport, but your traps become collision and make survivors slower.

  • @RemoveSWF said:

    @Catastrophe said:

    @RemoveSWF said:
    That's not holding the game hostage because you can do something to end the game. It's holding the game hostage when a killer blocks the stairs and the survivors can't escape and can't die.

    You just need to git gud.

    What can we do to end the game then? Keep finding them for 1 hour? Sound fun.

    Yes, find them.

    This is your problem, not theirs.

    Ok. I had been finding them for 30 min so I should keep finding them for another 30 min? I wonder if you can do this yourself when you don't run Whisper in a map like Gideon Meat Plant.

    Nice argument.

  • @RemoveSWF said:
    That's not holding the game hostage because you can do something to end the game. It's holding the game hostage when a killer blocks the stairs and the survivors can't escape and can't die.

    You just need to git gud.

    What can we do to end the game then? Keep finding them for 1 hour? Sound fun.

    Next time, please state what "something" you said is to make your argument valid before saying "git gud".

  • @Tizzle said:
    This is frustrating I'm sure but in no way shape or form is it taking the game hostage.

    There are several tools in the game to prevent this and your job as Killer is to find the Survivors.

    Would you mind suggesting some tools you said when you don't run Whisper because you don't anticipate this in the first place?

  • I wonder if we can still report players these days. Devs have taken out the report form, so what do we have now? These trolls have been an issue for a long time.

  • It is so sad that if you want to scare people or put pressure on them, you have to play Nurse (or Hillbilly in some cases).

  • Wow!, that's nice. Thanks.

  • @Jack11803 said:
    Guys you are taking this way to seriously as some mistreatment or screw over. It’s just the devs not knowing how to MATH AT ALL. Just another error they made, that’s be fixed shortly. I knew it was gonna happen, or at least something with the cells would happen.

    The difference around 20 USD between the former price and the new price sure is serious, man.We have full right to complain and we hope they fix this with compensation. Wasting 20 USD is no joke.

  • @Jack11803 said:
    @Catastrophe

    They didn’t rip you off, they just messed up conversion, and you never checked before buying. Either way, they accidentally had conversion at 50 USD= 50 LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE.

    The prices stayed 50USD for a few hours and there was a downtime. After that, the price just dropped. I found out this late in the morning. That's around 12 hours from the last time I see the former prices.

  • @Feng said:

    @Catastrophe said:
    The prices are completely different.


    But why do you have 0 cells then?

    They are screenshots from other players. I already filed a ticket and hope they do something with this.

  • You know what. I was charged 1,750 baht (54.48 USD) for 6000 Auric Cells and today the price just dropped to 993 baht (29.04 USD). I feel like being cheated here too and no one seems to care.

  • The prices are completely different.


  • To clarify further, I'm in Thailand. 1750 baht equals to 54.48 USD and 933 baht equals to 29.04. This is nonsense betrayal to your customer.