PC cheaters
every time I play this godforsaken game I match up against blatant cheaters, often in SWF.
speed hacks, wall hacks…. today i saw someone complete a gen AFTER RUNNING AWAY FROM IT…..
do something about this garbage, OR fix the matchmaking so I'm not matched up against god-gamer "PC master race" jackasses.
when I get to the finish line, and every single person facing me is lv 100, all of them are running dead hard, all of them are blatantly cheating, they're clearly on comms, clearly can see me through walls, and make no effort to hide, standing in the open, working on gens with zero fear, T-bagging every chance they get, there's a damn problem.
The game is built around tension, without tension there's no reason to play, and these ######### cheaters take away all the tension.
DO SOMETHING.
its frikking ridiculous.
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I love it how posts like this about cheaters also rant about everything else, as if they are completely equal. And OBVIOUSLY those Cheaters are SWF, which is the ultimate scapegoat in itself.
Got some videos? I will not deny there are cheaters in this game, but they are far less common than some people claim them to be. Often enough calling someone a cheater is just the result of something happening which the person just did not understand yet. Which is why I am asking for some videos.
E.g. someone finishing a Gen while running away from it might just be a second person being on that Gen. It is quite common if two people repair a Gen that one of them lures the Killer away while the other stays on the Gen or hides next to it.
It sounds more like you're mad that you're getting outplayed and that the survivors aren't scurrying away in terror from your tremendous presence than anything else because what does being unafraid, tbagging, and being on comms have to do with cheating?
Firstly, sorry about the frustrating games. I know it can really get under your skin in DBD.
I remember when I was quite new to the game and fairly full of myself about how much I had learned already. I almost called hacks on someone using Mettle of Man, because I hadn't seen it yet, for example.
This game doesn't foster confidence because subtle cheating is a thing, but it sounds to me like you've had a game against a group of players thare are in comms and all competent.
For example, speed hacks could be a variety of exhaustion perks, or just hugging loops really well, trust that a survivor that can hug a loop super tight feels like they are cheating sometimes.
The completed gen after running away has already been noted as likely a second player on the other side of the same gen, as mentioned, and wall hacks could be a variety of things, including good audio tracking, being able to see your red stain through cracks/gaps, good use of checkspots, or just seeing the top of your murderous bonce over the loop. Going against a multi-thousand hour survivor means that they are milking every advantage survivor has over killer, especially in terms of info gathering.
What's more worrying is you place BMing, SWFing and using Dead Hard on the same level of disruption as cheats. Why even mention those if the problem is hackers? What difference do those things make when your opponent is cheating? Don't make these things the problem. They're allowed, if annoying, and shouldn't be disallowed. I find BMing distasteful and never do it (apart from maybe blast-mining a 99'd gen and completing in the killer's face, but I see that more as a prank).
I gotta level with you, it just sounds like you lost or had a chain of losses and need to vent. Which is cool. If I'm wrong, you need to record your matches against these people.
while you are obviously venting, there is some very distinct Problems you mention some of them valid some of them just coincidental
Blatant/obvious cheaters
Those can be recorded and if you want action taken against them need to be reported in-game AND via additional support ticket, in my experience this works though most of these cheaters will have multiple accounts anyway
Wallhacks
Either aura reading perks or just game-sense or actual wallhacks. For the latter sadly nothing we can do as even recording them will lead to no action taken as its not hard evidence. Can only for for EAC (or whatever follows) to eventually recognize it…
SWF, Comms, P100, specific perks like Dead Hard, teabagging, standing there menacingly
No Problems at all, gotta learn to deal with it and play around it. If it really is that obvious that everyone has DH for example you can bait it out, all of these are supposed to be here by Game design
Matchmaking
Ah. Yeah. This will never actually be adjusted and is a major problem.
even though the devs worked out a new MMR System taking in account pretty much everything that made out the old (nostalgia-goggle)beloved Ranked Based Matchmaking - it doesnt matter. Matchmaking still doesnt match based on this Ranking anyway but favours fast queues, and based on time of day and Players available it would also not be feasible to always match accurately anyways.
Tinfoil hat theory (which is partly confirmed): content creators do have a separate queue so they get ‘easier’ opponents for ✨content✨(confirmed part iirc is that the partner program has a separate queue where people that are highly suspiscious to be cheaters are excluded based on reports) - and its not very likely for this to be changed as the ccs as well as their followings are obviously for it/denying it exists and are a pretty vocal majority
Your conspiracy theory is entirely laughable.
I would give you a tip: stop overreacting and making up obvious lies. Also, people like you are most likely players that arent as good as they think, and just get beaten by better players. From most of you post i can conclude that youre lacking pretty much game sense.
cant edit so here: nothing confirmed i misremembered there were just rumours and plenty of videos floating around.
Is it laughable though? Or is that reaction exactly what i described lol
It would be understandable for BHVR to have some Protection measures for their content creators against Hackers as they are more likely to be targeted after all and we actually have witnessed such stracks live on stream. Not even saying thats a bad thing.
It is laughable. There is no such system in dbd. Nobody can seriously think that this would be a thing.
This sounds like a post made by the type of player who accuses a Legion of wall hacks because they don't know that killer instinct is a thing in DbD.
I think this is laughable. Some content creators make great content about hunting cheaters such as Epidemy. And you're giving BHVR too much credit if you think they could implement a system for more favorable matchmaking for creators without breaking the game in some fashion.
i never said that this system doesnt break the game in ways we don’t even know. Or that its working at all.
Also i didnt accuse any of the content creators to be willingly part of this? Is that Epidemy even in the partner program?
There are hackers that target streamers. Hens even interviewed a bunch of them. If they had to force their way into a different queue we'd know about it.
People also stream snipe the streamers. Again, if they had separate queues that would be almost impossible to do.
i get accused of cheating once a day because so many people even with 3k hours don’t know about mad grit and never think to check what perks do.
On the flipside cheaters are way more common than even people even in this topic will admit too. I see them often, on killer and survivor.
Do you think the system actually exists in some way? Because if it actually does, it appears to be seamless. I'm just saying I doubt BHVR could make it seamless so I doubt it exists at all. Also they'd have to identify cheaters and instead of banning them keep track of them (instead of just banning them) and make sure they don't match them with creators?
Can you cite something where they actually confirmed anything here?
not replying to me but I saw one time a few years ago dbdleaks posted about it. I dont think it is something BHVR would ever officially comment on if it was in game. (time on tweet is wrong this was like 2022ish from memory)
First of all…
Here i said i couldnt find confirmation and that i misremembered.
But yeah, thanks @random1543 thats what i remembered!
Not sure if it exists or not or maybe got retired bc of backlash or reworked or anything. I do think having such a System is not completely impossible to have im such a game, but i can see that people are already defending their content creators so all good
Yeah from the way this post is worded it just sounds like OP is being outplayed. A gen popping after someone runs away from it is usually a second surv hiding behind the gen then popping it once you take chase with the one luring you away. It is frustrating when you have a huge skill gap against a full team, and matchmaking is absolutely cooked ATM.
And wall hacks? Sounds more like survs are just effectively check spotting you, remember they play in 3rd person and can see your red stain very easily.
Now if you saw survs healing instantly, disappearing into the ground etc then maybe you'd be seeing cheaters.
It can definitely be frustrating when you face cheaters who arnt super blatant because it really makes you doubt yourself. I remember facing one awhile ago and it was tiny details that gave it away. I ended up recording the match and submitted it along with notes on where I noticed issues. Remote gen repairs was one of em. I at one point looked at a gen against a wall (so obviously no survivors hiding behind it) and could still HEAR the repair sounds. OP MIGHTVE just been outplayed, but at the same time alot of cheaters are sneaky. Most of the reason why I even was able to track their movements was just because I just happened to be playing Doc and was using the right addon to keep track of their locations via ilusionary doctor spawns.
It can be hard to spot. I always take it with a pinch of salt thought. I suppose for me it's super rare to see cheaters (or at least realise I have a cheater in my game)
For me, the game was 1 sided enough after 1 person died on first hook that I had PLENTY of time to get hit with all sorts of cheats. I had the one where they go under the map to sabo a hook while your trying to hook someone so the prompt never pops up. I had 2 impossible flashlight saves. Those were the more obvious cheats… The least obvious ones were when I started just leaving people slugged. Doc illusions told me their locations and they managed to get to spots on the map to heal the slugs way faster than possible. Was playing on The Game map and it became apparent they were probably jumping down to the bottom floor THROUGH the floor when no one was looking (except for the illusions). If you want, I can let ya watch the video. I cant post it here because I have no way of editing the video to block the names so it'll fall into "naming and shaming".
Yeah DM it to me, would be an interesting watch