I want a revote
Before the "You voted for this chapter" No the only things I voted for that won was the Killers Silhouette, which had I known would've been turned into a crab, I would've just went with the 2nd floating option. The Exile which I'm cool with, the mori which I'm cool with, killer perks are ok, and music is peak. However everything else down to the survivor pick, Killers weapon, Killers cosmetic, survivors perks etc. etc. Yall fumbled Killers power is also way to high on the skill celling, like on par with nurse if not harder. The only plus to it is its spammable, and it's only that way because you're gonna be missing a lot. (Unless you decide to dump a lot hours into this killer. I ain't doing that. After the adept, for me, this killers probably getting vaulted till a day that I'm bored and want to play someone else)
Killers in this game that often require skill go unused especially with a new killer that controller players are struggle to use. If we ever get another vote for your chapter, need yall to do better
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I'm sorry that this killer is not for you, I do agree that the skill floor is very high - and that will likely mean more casual players will be less inclined to learn the killer as it is going to take time and effort, although the payoff for that time and effort is that you have a very strong killer as a result.
There's going to be no revote, the voting represented what players want and we even did do small revotes during the period when the opportunity was available. Ultimately, the winning options are what is in the PTB.
With regards to a controller, there are specific controller settings that put it almost on par with Keyboard and Mouse, even with the movement of the beam, so we're confident that this is not going to be a barrier for entry.
The Judgement is fine actually.
Sincerely, A Controller Player
Have you had problems with 180 flicks on controller?
Sincerely, A Controller Player
Yeah but I'm getting the hang of it, in loops at least it's a funny image but because the timing of when you start the flick matters I like imagining I'm summoning a blight with only two rushes. I start the beam as I turn the corner aiming it at the nearest wall a blight would bounce off of and then I turn the corner and cast and it's almost like you're preflicking because instead of cast turn turn you're just casting and turning and it makes it easier to keep the survivor in sight too.
Unlike the the Oni 180 which could be reliably be done on mouse while impossible on controller, the Judgment 180 is different because its stupidly difficult on both ends. You have to look away to make the 180 flick and reliably still hit the survivor who can see what you're doing clear as day. Controller is no different while still having minor limitations making it more difficult.
Technically that beam was not voted in. What won the vote for power was a straight forword death ray, and then it got changed into a different idea to what we see today since it would've been too easy to use. Like bringing a minigun to dbd lol.
Aside from there being no revote. I hope the other character options turn into legendaries someday for both sides. Although the killer forms would be much more difficult thx to the mori, and mini mori using the crab legs. So maybe viceral with new moris?
Are you doing the cross with it?
She straight the more I play her to more I change my opinion
Not with those no it's more like a slingshot almost like you're casting a line then turning around and yanking it back over your shoulder.
The crosses you can do in front you just have to give yourself space and stay back a little.
Unfortunately im a console player, so I can only watch videos for now and wait til it hits live. Definitely gonna dump 5mil BPs in on day 1 though.
the vote should’ve been ranked choice.
Personally, I'm excited to have a killer with high skill floor and ceiling again but I can understand that this scares many casual players away and it feels a bit weird that a community killer is not that accessible.
Based on your message, it seems like you're fine with the high skill floor and ceiling, but I'm still worried about a Krasue or Singularity situation where the killer is more on the difficult end and you decide to make them easier, which ends up in a killer that is extremely oppressive and easy to pick up. Killers like these are extensively unhealthy for the game. In case of Krasue, it ruined the fun for me when you overbuffed her on live release into a monster (everyone was playing her and everyone was giving up against her) and then did some emergency nerfs that made her weaker but also unpleasant to play - nearly one year later, still in a bad spot. Me and Krasue found love in a hopeless place again but it's still sad to see characters that got so much promo and a good build around in such a sad place.
I hope you, the developers, will do better this time, do the right decisions, and won't drop the killer after two months, so The Judgment won't end up in a bad spot like Krasue.
I don't honestly know if spamming is actually the way because we thought that about Henry but turns out he's better at using his power patiently
This might actually get me to go find my mouse, lol. PS5 HAS kb/m support, but I dont usually use it cuz I like to be able to sit further away from my console. I have a little lap desk thing JUST for this sort of thing that might be getting some use now.
To be fair, what we are getting isn't what was voted for.
The biggest thing is the power, the beam we voted for was described as a "reverse xeno turret" and this is absolutely not that. We also voted for "pain of artifacts" which was supposed to be similar to the Lich's items and have a risk associated with them, but the only thing we got was the searcher's pendant, which is not similar at all. For "hopeless exile", which won, it was said we would be able to enter the realm to deliver punishment, but that was scrapped. The mori is missing the biggest draw of it which was the survivor ripping in two. Boon: Steadfast was supposed to grant permanent progress, but was then scrapped. The Killer silhouette showed it having detached pillars/legs with tentacles for its lower half, which was changed into some weird crab creature instead, and was also described as being androgynous, but is clearly feminine.
Given all that together, I think it is quite unfair to say the voting represented what the players wanted.
You can actually get snipes for the first hit fairly often just firing at gens but they will never stick the gen after and getting that second hit can be a bit of a chore, that's what I'm mostly trying to lab out rn what's the most consistent way to get the second hit.
Most likely they wont touch much unless its some addon changes. I hope they leave the killer alone except for needed buffs/nerfs as I'm sure they're probably already working on whoever's next. I'd hate for them to ruin a character because of it. My opinion changes the more I play her granted she is NOT beginner friendly at all but that's fine not every killer needs to be easy and S tier
Don't get me wrong, I 100% support that killers should not feel awful or impossible to play on console cuz that's just bad (every killer should be playable on console without bad feelings). I just don't wanna see The Judgment getting unnecessary buffs that make it easier to play just because it will have a low pickrate or casuals want something easier. As mentioned before, we already had this problem with Krasue and Singularity and this is just bad for both sides.
At no point did I suggest the killer should be buffed. From what im hearing, the killer is rough either way and I just was saying I personally will probably plug in my mouse when I wanna give it a try.
I agree with you. From the first impressions, the killer just needs some changes/tweaks. They can still change things later after release when everyone has a better opinion on it (many killers are counted as too strong or weak on PTB and then turned out the opposite after awhile like Unknown, Springtrap, or Ghoul).
I also think this killer is very beginner unfriendly due to being 4.4 and you have to use your power that is difficult to use, especially outside of powermode, and the fact that the killer cannot use the typical perks. I'm fine with that since I main Artist and HM and just love hard to master killers. I also love the addon variety on the killer since many of them are so unique and not boring stuff.
It's just my fear that the devs repeat their old mistakes that make a killer too strong which results in awful games against it, then nerf it which results in awful gameplay with it.
Ah, then I misunderstood your comment mb.
thank u Mandy!! also don’t forget about our blue haired queen that lost the vote pleaseee let her come to the game later!
Thats great to hear. but on an unrelated is there plans for some qol for Judgment like making heretic's mark addon base kit and making a sound cue for when you spawn the beam too close to a survivor but it didn't delay quick enough? (Not to be confused with prayer kneeler as I don't want THAT addon specifically to be made base kit) And if possible to answer is there plans to revisit Singularity? There is a growing consent that Singularity received many changes that removed a lot of his depth and lowered his skill floor to the point you can do very well with HUX with doing very little effort. (If you cant answer that last oneI completely understand Mandy. )
Someone madge he got hot gramma instead of hot blue haired girl.
In all seriousness, it's normal that not everyone likes how a chapter is designed. A community chapter with votes for and against some stuff even more probably.
Yh a lot of people were whingeing about that. Every character has to be primo goon material apparently
Not seeing the problem
Elaborate?