People have 0 patience anymore

Whether it's survivor perks or the killer, It's them demanding for nerfs. We have yet to understand and learn the counterplays. After a month, a lot have changed then.

I wish more people would understand this sentiment.

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  • @BarzarImmar said:

    Whether it's survivor perks or the killer, It's them demanding for nerfs. We have yet to understand and learn the counterplays. After a month, a lot have changed then.

    I wish more people would understand this sentiment.

    If you are referring to Jason, he is overtuned.
    Never have I ever seen a killer with THIS much BS mechanics since I started playing in 2018. And that is putting it mildly.

  • @wesker_shades said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/468850/people-have-0-patience-anymore

    If you are referring to Jason, he is overtuned.
    Never have I ever seen a killer with THIS much BS mechanics since I started playing in 2018. And that is putting it mildly.

    Dracula.

  • @wesker_shades said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/468850/people-have-0-patience-anymore

    If you are referring to Jason, he is overtuned.
    Never have I ever seen a killer with THIS much BS mechanics since I started playing in 2018. And that is putting it mildly.

    You have. Ghoul, vecna on release and dracula on release are all comparible to this release.

    The valid issues with jason are A) his haste last too long, B) his power is on a low cd and c) theres no real punishment for missing a shot, as scrap piles are many and all around. The other things complained about are usually a result of survivors not taking chase and refusing to take aggro (which you can choose who takes aggro due to his power, which is unique to him) which leads to standstills.

    Ghouls issues were soo much more aggregious. Vecna's early mage hand cd and skulls cd were horrendously low and dracula had a low cd for switching between forms.

    I also started in 2018. These are just the most recent examples. I remember back when nurse's attack didnt class as a special attack and worked with m1 perks for example. Or old slowdown freddy.

    Jason is overtuned, but nowhere near as much as your comment seems to suggest

  • Well, while release Drac had a lot of issues, he really can't compare.

    @Abyast1 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4090562#Comment_4090562

    You have. Ghoul, vecna on release and dracula on release are all comparible to this release.

    The valid issues with jason are A) his haste last too long, B) his power is on a low cd and c) theres no real punishment for missing a shot, as scrap piles are many and all around. The other things complained about are usually a result of survivors not taking chase and refusing to take aggro (which you can choose who takes aggro due to his power, which is unique to him) which leads to standstills.

    Ghouls issues were soo much more aggregious. Vecna's early mage hand cd and skulls cd were horrendously low and dracula had a low cd for switching between forms.

    I also started in 2018. These are just the most recent examples. I remember back when nurse's attack didnt class as a special attack and worked with m1 perks for example. Or old slowdown freddy.

    Jason is overtuned, but nowhere near as much as your comment seems to suggest

    Ghoul is pretty much beating a dead horse at this point. We all know what their problem is.
    And D&D Vecna was not as overtuned. He got a massive buff when they shortened the cooldown on Fly however.

    I do remember old Nurse and Forever Freddy, but Jason is in a league of his own. Sorry to all of you who like playing him, but the truth is that it is absolutely miserable to play against him, because of how much he has in his kit and his add-ons, for basically free.

  • @wesker_shades said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4090565#Comment_4090565

    Well, while release Drac had a lot of issues, he really can't compare.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4090566#Comment_4090566

    Ghoul is pretty much beating a dead horse at this point. We all know what their problem is.
    And D&D Vecna was not as overtuned. He got a massive buff when they shortened the cooldown on Fly however.

    I do remember old Nurse and Forever Freddy, but Jason is in a league of his own. Sorry to all of you who like playing him, but the truth is that it is absolutely miserable to play against him, because of how much he has in his kit and his add-ons, for basically free.

    I enjoy playing as and against him, otherwise i wouldnt be posting. He can definitely use a few nerfs but your overexaggerating here.

  • @wesker_shades said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4090565#Comment_4090565

    Well, while release Drac had a lot of issues, he really can't compare.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4090566#Comment_4090566

    Ghoul is pretty much beating a dead horse at this point. We all know what their problem is.
    And D&D Vecna was not as overtuned. He got a massive buff when they shortened the cooldown on Fly however.

    I do remember old Nurse and Forever Freddy, but Jason is in a league of his own. Sorry to all of you who like playing him, but the truth is that it is absolutely miserable to play against him, because of how much he has in his kit and his add-ons, for basically free.

    I mean I don't know if I would even call it old nurse, I started in 2021 I think and infectious star struck nurse was insane since her blink attack was coded as an M1, oh add to the fact that I think this was also during the Eruption CoB era as well. I can def see why people hate jason he just has too much going for em without much of a down side at all, it's not just one thing it's the infinite OE, the Add-ons, etc. the only thing I don't get is the whole spear thing, huntress has 7 hatchets and can reload all 7 fairly easily with a much generous hit box

  • Jason is way less problematic than other candidates who are still able to roam the fog for free. He needs minor adjustment on cooldowns, jumpscare speed and wind-up and he will be fine.

  • @BarzarImmar said:

    Whether it's survivor perks or the killer, It's them demanding for nerfs. We have yet to understand and learn the counterplays. After a month, a lot have changed then.

    I wish more people would understand this sentiment.

    Some things are busted like ghoul and krasue on release or made for this (which lasted like year making all m1 killers nerfed into ground) but some need time like jason isnt so strong as people say and devs shouldnt be like old teams that managed make through pig super known meme (nerf pig), new term "merchanted" with SM hardcore nerf which was more like "if we cant delete you, we will make you worth ***** so you cant do anything".

  • @Abbzy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/468850/people-have-0-patience-anymore

    Some things are busted like ghoul and krasue on release or made for this (which lasted like year making all m1 killers nerfed into ground) but some need time like jason isnt so strong as people say and devs shouldnt be like old teams that managed make through pig super known meme (nerf pig), new term "merchanted" with SM hardcore nerf which was more like "if we cant delete you, we will make you worth ***** so you cant do anything".

    Apparently 5 months, the ACTUAL time they took to nerf mft, (quick in bhvr time) is now equivalent to "like a year." Please stop intentionally spreading misinformation or double check your facts before trying to make an "us vs them" against C tier killers and below.

  • @Valuetown said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4090609#Comment_4090609

    Apparently 5 months, the ACTUAL time they took to nerf mft, (quick in bhvr time) is now equivalent to "like a year." Please stop intentionally spreading misinformation or double check your facts before trying to make an "us vs them" against C tier killers and below.

    So what I got wrong?

    The time window which is still not small or the fact it destroyed killers with no effective antiloop especialy the weaker ones c-tier (I would argue it effected more then c-tier in killer numbers basicaly anyone who has no solid antiloop and speed difference makes him way worse).

    No, that's just revisionist history. Killers complained because they want to play whatever torturous build or killer combo they want, knowing full well their b…

    Or like this yours statement where you claimed killers are the ones that get things nerfed basicaly top of the iceberg in "us vs them" topic where you various nerfs claimed to be killers agency only your luck here is that post got deleted but even guy who cant bear I called him sherlock and calls me watson every time now had to agree with me on this.

    So who spreads missinformation more and hate posts?

  • @wesker_shades said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/468850/people-have-0-patience-anymore

    If you are referring to Jason, he is overtuned.
    Never have I ever seen a killer with THIS much BS mechanics since I started playing in 2018. And that is putting it mildly.

    release Krasue was more unfair, strong than Jason but he’s definitely up there

  • @BarzarImmar said:

    Whether it's survivor perks or the killer, It's them demanding for nerfs. We have yet to understand and learn the counterplays. After a month, a lot have changed then.

    I wish more people would understand this sentiment.

    Why would people wait when they already deciphered the concepts and understand that theyre problematic? Its absolutely nothing to do with patience here.

  • Just how bad was Krasue on release

  • @Abbzy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4090620#Comment_4090620

    So what I got wrong?

    The time window which is still not small or the fact it destroyed killers with no effective antiloop especialy the weaker ones c-tier (I would argue it effected more then c-tier in killer numbers basicaly anyone who has no solid antiloop and speed difference makes him way worse).

    No, that's just revisionist history. Killers complained because they want to play whatever torturous build or killer combo they want, knowing full well their b…

    Or like this yours statement where you claimed killers are the ones that get things nerfed basicaly top of the iceberg in "us vs them" topic where you various nerfs claimed to be killers agency only your luck here is that post got deleted but even guy who cant bear I called him sherlock and calls me watson every time now had to agree with me on this.

    So who spreads missinformation more and hate posts?

    If you actually read my message or even played this game, 5 months for a nerf IS SMALL for this dev team. Unless something is absolutely extremely broken aka Krasue on release, it will be in the game for at least 3 months. No matter what people want to say about release mft, B tier killers and above were just fine with it.

    Also, the fact that you dug up a reply I said from a weeks or months old thread that got deleted (so either you screenshot and saved my message or you dug it up in your replies list because that statement meant that much to you), a comment which is true so there's no "us vs them" involved, is absolutely hilarious and amazing. I really should get around to starting a Valuetown Fanclub huh?

  • @wesker_shades said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/468850/people-have-0-patience-anymore

    If you are referring to Jason, he is overtuned.
    Never have I ever seen a killer with THIS much BS mechanics since I started playing in 2018. And that is putting it mildly.

    I would arguse The First was and still is overtuned lol. And i say that as a Vecna (The First) Main

  • @Jay_K said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4090562#Comment_4090562

    I would arguse The First was and still is overtuned lol. And i say that as a Vecna (The First) Main

    Overtuned in what way?