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Cross Progression - Switch

mikaaareid mikaaareid
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We Nintendo Switch players still have a lot of questions to be answered. For example:

1 - The characters I bought with my irisdent cells will be on my steam? If not, will my cells be returned to be bought again? Because if not that will be completely unfair, since I played for days to just buy a dlc character, for example: Mikaela.

2 - The cosmetics I bought with auric cells will be on my steam?

3 - If I buy a DLC character on Steam I already have on switch with the level 50 will my character be on that same level 50 on Steam after I buy it? Example: I already have my Lara in level 4, will that level be applied on steam as well if I buy her again?

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  • tjt85 tjt85

    There are lots of questions unanswered, tbh. I have the same question for iri purchases too, since I have Jane / Felix / Yui / Elodie / Zarina and Mikaela unlocked on Switch but not on PC (I play more Survivor on Switch and more Killer on PC). I think I bought most of them with Iri shards, so they should be sharable across other platforms, right?

    I also want to know if Auric Cell purchases actually count as "DLC". I've got cosmetics and one or two Survivors on Switch that I don't have on PC (Iron Maiden / Halloween T-shirts and charm bundles) and I wonder if they will be sharable.

    I feel a bit like Nintendo will be shooting themselves in the foot on this one if Auric purchases can't be shared with other platforms. If this is true, I'll never have another reason to buy anything on the Switch again because it will always make more sense to buy things on my Steam account, since that stuff can always be shared elsewhere.

    I do think character levels will carry over if you purchase them again on another platform, though. That counts as progression.

  • TragicSolitude TragicSolitude

    BHVR has not answered any questions or clarified anything about Switch cross-progression. It's frustrating.

    There are two main types of purchases in the game: purchases made in the platform's store and purchases made within DbD itself. We have no idea if those two types of purchases will be treated equally when syncing.

    There are also two main types of content, licensed and original unlicensed, and we don't know if limitations in what transfers applies to only licensed or also to original. A lot of us expected limitations on licensed content transferring.

    And BHVR says that when you sync your content you'll get 4500 iri shards for DLC bought twice…

    https://x.com/TGContrarian/status/1813950756879315158

    but will this occur after syncing as well? For players who already own content on Switch, sync with PC, and then re-purchase any non-transferred content on the PC account, will they receive those 4500 iri shards? Or do we need to make all necessary repeat purchases prior to syncing to receive the shards?

    Nintendo Switch players were told "sorry, we're not giving you what we've been promising for four years," and have then been left in the dark about what exactly that means.

  • AbsolutGrndZer0 AbsolutGrndZer0

    @TragicSolitude said:

    BHVR has not answered any questions or clarified anything about Switch cross-progression. It's frustrating.

    There are two main types of purchases in the game: purchases made in the platform's store and purchases made within DbD itself. We have no idea if those two types of purchases will be treated equally when syncing.

    There are also two main types of content, licensed and original unlicensed, and we don't know if limitations in what transfers applies to only licensed or also to original. A lot of us expected limitations on licensed content transferring.

    And BHVR says that when you sync your content you'll get 4500 iri shards for DLC bought twice…

    https://x.com/TGContrarian/status/1813950756879315158

    but will this occur after syncing as well? For players who already own content on Switch, sync with PC, and then re-purchase any non-transferred content on the PC account, will they receive those 4500 iri shards? Or do we need to make all necessary repeat purchases prior to syncing to receive the shards?

    Nintendo Switch players were told "sorry, we're not giving you what we've been promising for four years," and have then been left in the dark about what exactly that means.

    Yea, just make sure you keep the blame for this on Nintendo and not BHVR. Remember, they tried their best to get it all transferred.

    Honestly, I thought Sony would be the hold out, so that Sony is on board finally but Nintendo is the hold out was not on my bingo card.

  • TragicSolitude TragicSolitude

    @AbsolutGrndZer0 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3762920#Comment_3762920

    Yea, just make sure you keep the blame for this on Nintendo and not BHVR. Remember, they tried their best to get it all transferred.

    Honestly, I thought Sony would be the hold out, so that Sony is on board finally but Nintendo is the hold out was not on my bingo card.

    I wrote a long post with sources already explaining why BHVR is on the hook for this:

    @TragicSolitude said:

    For years, the Switch port and DLC were sold to Switch players with the promise that cross-progression is coming and will include the transfer of DLC. Some Switch players purchased the game and DLC because of that promise and would not have done so otherwise.

    Cross-progression for Switch was announced back in July 2020.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20200720185133/https%3A//deadbydaylight.com/en/news/breaking-barriers-with-cross-play-and-cross-progression

    Stated here: "We are thrilled to announce that we are preparing the first steps toward Cross-Progression and that it will be available for Steam, Google Stadia and Nintendo Switch in September! Players will be able to share their progression, purchases, and inventory on those 3 platforms – Exceptions might have to be made to accommodate for some external licensing needs."

    News from 2021 is still available online, both on the live site

    https://deadbydaylight.com/news/nintendo-switch-joins-cross-progression/

    and on Archive.org and states: "your character progression, DLCs, and purchased or unlocked items will all be available to you." (The emphasis added is my own.)

    The release of cross-progression for Switch was pushed back multiple times, but no update stating "DLC will not be included" has ever been made.

    Questions about cross-progression were rarely answered, but when they were, the response was: "I'm sorry but there is no further update on Cross Progression at the present time." (quoted from Reddit 10 months ago). No updates. No changes.

    BHVR has, for four years, claimed that Nintendo Switch players will get to keep their DLC. When they have given updates, they have not revised their statement.

    Whether or not BHVR has any control over the change, it was BHVR who made statements about DLC transferring: BVHR has a responsibility to make sure information they share with customers is correct and to make things right for their customers when it is incorrect. If they made a promise they can't deliver on, that's on BHVR, they advertised this feature to their customers. As is, BHVR's statements about cross-progression misrepresented their capabilities and misrepresented the product they were selling.

    Switch players gave money, time, and an unreasonable amount of patience as they dealt with the never ending performance issues. The number of customers who would not have purchased DbD on Switch if the cross-progression statement had not been made is high. Customers spent money based on faulty information. I did not purchase the chapters on Switch just to play half the chapter; killer has been unplayable for me, but even though I can only play half the game I still paid the same as everyone else.

    The money spent by Switch players is just as important and holds the same value as the money spent by players on other platforms. For years, we have paid the same as everyone else (or more, when compared to PC) for an inferior product. Many of us did it because you, BHVR, made the statement that DLC would transfer to other platforms with cross-progression.

    What is being done to make sure Switch players have access to the cross-progression function that encouraged them to purchase DLC for the platform with the worst performance? Because right now, we're being told we're not receiving the product for which we paid, and that's not acceptable.

    I refrain from speculation when it comes to who's at fault for what behind the scenes with contracts and negotiations. But when it comes to who made public promises to existing and potential Switch players since 2020, encouraging people to buy and put up with a port that started off questionable and whose performance has only degraded over time, that's BHVR. I'm sorry BHVR's left holding the ball here when there were two parties involved, but making statements to customers and accepting money means they have obligations.

    They could start with answering questions and clearing up confusion.

  • Subject107 Subject107

    Is there anything other fellow switch players can do to help try and get answers?

  • MikeyMyers666 MikeyMyers666

    I can kind of understand not transferring the purchases made through Nintendo's eShop. But there is no excuse for not transferring the characters unlocked with Auric Cells.

    Also, yesterday when I played I received a prompt asking permission to share my Nintendo Account information with BHVR. And progress is also transferred. So again there is no reason why characters unlocked with Auric Cells can't be transferred.

  • TragicSolitude TragicSolitude

    @Subject107 said:

    Is there anything other fellow switch players can do to help try and get answers?

    I have the feeling that, right now, BHVR might not have answers to a lot of our questions. Because, they are answering questions, just not these questions. See here, posted today:

    @Peanits said:

    I've tracked down an answer for this, and it's good news for you: Because the perks are unlocked by progress and because that progress is transferred, you'll have access to the unique perks even without re-purchasing the characters.

    When I try to think of why they're not answering questions, the only reason I can come up with is that they're still working out the kinks. Giving us a definitive answer when they don't know would cause them no end of headaches, and telling us they don't know the answers would be a whole other can of worms for them to deal with. So it's silence until they either get it working or until they run out of time.

    If I'm wrong about this, cool, great, I look forward to being corrected and to finding out the answers to our questions. This is simply speculation because BHVR has given us no information.

    Edit: went ahead and crossed out everything since it was speculation and was cleared up by a dev in the next reply.

  • Peanits Peanits

    I have some answers!

    1. Yes, those will be transferred.
    2. Cosmetics will also be transferred; they are considered part of your inventory.
    3. Your progress will be transferred even if you don't own the DLC. If you don't have access to that character on the other platform, you will of course need to purchase them again in order to play them, though. Additionally, if you've prestiged them, their unique perks will be unlocked on other characters even if you don't have access to the characters themselves.

    @TragicSolitude said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763000#Comment_3763000

    I have the feeling that, right now, BHVR might not have answers to a lot of our questions. Because, they are answering questions, just not these questions. See here, posted today:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763017#Comment_3763017

    When I try to think of why they're not answering questions, the only reason I can come up with is that they're still working out the kinks. Giving us a definitive answer when they don't know would cause them no end of headaches, and telling us they don't know the answers would be a whole other can of worms for them to deal with. So it's silence until they either get it working or until they run out of time.

    If I'm wrong about this, cool, great, I look forward to being corrected and to finding out the answers to our questions. This is simply speculation because BHVR has given us no information.

    Was actually in the middle of typing out an answer as you posted this! No, it's mostly just been a busy week and we're prioritizing ongoing issues. The kinks have been worked out, but sometimes we need to poke our tech teams for help answering some of the most specific questions. Hoping to get more answers out when we get the chance.

  • TragicSolitude TragicSolitude

    @Peanits said:

    I have some answers!

    1. Yes, those will be transferred.
    2. Cosmetics will also be transferred; they are considered part of your inventory.
    3. Your progress will be transferred even if you don't own the DLC. If you don't have access to that character on the other platform, you will of course need to purchase them again in order to play them, though. Additionally, if you've prestiged them, their unique perks will be unlocked on other characters even if you don't have access to the characters themselves.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763067#Comment_3763067

    Was actually in the middle of typing out an answer as you posted this! No, it's mostly just been a busy week and we're prioritizing ongoing issues. The kinks have been worked out, but sometimes we need to poke our tech teams for help answering some of the most specific questions. Hoping to get more answers out when we get the chance.

    That's great to hear! Glad to know I was wrong. I'd really been wondering. I have a related question about what transfers that I was wondering if you could find out the answer to:

    Will chapters received via giveaway codes transfer over? It's a full chapter, but it wasn't purchased, it was redeemed in the DbD in-game store (on Switch but not in the Nintendo eShop) with a code given away by Fog Whisperers.

  • Mandy Mandy

    @TragicSolitude said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763080#Comment_3763080

    That's great to hear! Glad to know I was wrong. I'd really been wondering. I have a related question about what transfers that I was wondering if you could find out the answer to:

    Will chapters received via giveaway codes transfer over? It's a full chapter, but it wasn't purchased, it was redeemed in the DbD in-game store (on Switch but not in the Nintendo eShop) with a code given away by Fog Whisperers.

    can't say for certain, but from my understanding yes that should transfer over with cross-progression.

  • TragicSolitude TragicSolitude

    @Mandy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763092#Comment_3763092

    can't say for certain, but from my understanding yes that should transfer over with cross-progression.

    Thank you!

    It's been stated that if the player owns DLC multiple times over, they receive 4500 iri shards. Is the 4500 iri shards a lump sum or is it for each DLC that's owned multiple times? If it is per DLC, is that per chapter or per character?

    Also, if I sync up my Nintendo Switch with another platform account, see what didn't transfer, and then purchase the chapters that I already owned on Switch but don't own on the new platform, will I receive the 4500 iri shards? Or will I need to purchase any chapters bought on Switch on the new platform before syncing up? The FAQ makes it sound like it only occurs when the accounts are first synced, which is kind of (or very) inconvenient if it means checking each and every character owned on Switch to find out if they were purchased in the eShop or with shards or received via code to figure out what needs to be purchased on the new platform before syncing up, and it could easily lead to re-purchasing something that would've transferred.

  • Ricardo170373 Ricardo170373

    Im trying understand what will happen with offerings and itens, because i asked via email and someone from BHVR said "the highest number" and another email said me " itens and offerings will be merged and combined . I would like know definetly what will happen, for example. If i have …

    Nea (Steam) = 50 medkits
    Nea (PS4) = 25 medkits

    After sync i will have 50 medkits or 75? please BHVR clarify this, because in emails they just confuse me more than before i asked

    I dont know if anything will be posted about other clarifications. would be nice if a Q&A on live or reddit only about crossprogression. This feature is huge and noone can have doubts.

  • Mandy Mandy

    @TragicSolitude said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763109#Comment_3763109

    Thank you!

    It's been stated that if the player owns DLC multiple times over, they receive 4500 iri shards. Is the 4500 iri shards a lump sum or is it for each DLC that's owned multiple times? If it is per DLC, is that per chapter or per character?

    Also, if I sync up my Nintendo Switch with another platform account, see what didn't transfer, and then purchase the chapters that I already owned on Switch but don't own on the new platform, will I receive the 4500 iri shards? Or will I need to purchase any chapters bought on Switch on the new platform before syncing up? The FAQ makes it sound like it only occurs when the accounts are first synced, which is kind of (or very) inconvenient if it means checking each and every character owned on Switch to find out if they were purchased in the eShop or with shards or received via code to figure out what needs to be purchased on the new platform before syncing up, and it could easily lead to re-purchasing something that would've transferred.

    the 4500 Iri Shards is a one off, no matter how many DLC's are included and it's for the whole DLC.
    It would need to be done before the sync goes through not after.

  • Subject107 Subject107

    I would like to ask for 1 clarification. When Peanits here says "Yes, those will be transferred." He is referring to characters bought with iri shards as per the OPs question. But is this also the case for characters bought with auric cells using the in game store, (Not the Nintendo E-Shop) or does the cross-progression have a way of determining which are bought with iri shards/auric cells and only awarding the iri shard purchases among sync-up?

    @Peanits said:

    I have some answers!

    1. Yes, those will be transferred.
    2. Cosmetics will also be transferred; they are considered part of your inventory.
    3. Your progress will be transferred even if you don't own the DLC. If you don't have access to that character on the other platform, you will of course need to purchase them again in order to play them, though. Additionally, if you've prestiged them, their unique perks will be unlocked on other characters even if you don't have access to the characters themselves.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763067#Comment_3763067

    Was actually in the middle of typing out an answer as you posted this! No, it's mostly just been a busy week and we're prioritizing ongoing issues. The kinks have been worked out, but sometimes we need to poke our tech teams for help answering some of the most specific questions. Hoping to get more answers out when we get the chance.

  • Mandy Mandy

    @Ricardo170373 said:

    Im trying understand what will happen with offerings and itens, because i asked via email and someone from BHVR said "the highest number" and another email said me " itens and offerings will be merged and combined . I would like know definetly what will happen, for example. If i have …

    Nea (Steam) = 50 medkits
    Nea (PS4) = 25 medkits

    After sync i will have 50 medkits or 75? please BHVR clarify this, because in emails they just confuse me more than before i asked

    I dont know if anything will be posted about other clarifications. would be nice if a Q&A on live or reddit only about crossprogression. This feature is huge and noone can have doubts.

    It would be the highest number, so the 50 medkits. They do not combine.

  • Ricardo170373 Ricardo170373

    @Mandy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763152#Comment_3763152

    It would be the highest number, so the 50 medkits. They do not combine.

    Thanks Mandy. Thanks a lot

  • TragicSolitude TragicSolitude

    @Mandy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763128#Comment_3763128

    the 4500 Iri Shards is a one off, no matter how many DLC's are included and it's for the whole DLC.
    It would need to be done before the sync goes through not after.

    So, that means if I own three chapters—like THE SAW Chapter, Curtain Call, and Shattered Bloodline—on Switch and I also own those same three chapters on PlayStation and I sync the PlayStation and Switch accounts, I'll get a total of 4500 Iri Shards for the three chapters altogether.

    Meanwhile, if the only chapter I own across both platforms is Curtain Call, I will still get the exact same sum of 4500 Iri Shards?

  • Mandy Mandy

    @TragicSolitude said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763158#Comment_3763158

    So, that means if I own three chapters—like THE SAW Chapter, Curtain Call, and Shattered Bloodline—on Switch and I also own those same three chapters on PlayStation and I sync the PlayStation and Switch accounts, I'll get a total of 4500 Iri Shards for the three chapters altogether.

    Meanwhile, if the only chapter I own across both platforms is Curtain Call, I will still get the exact same sum of 4500 Iri Shards?

    yes that is correct

  • TragicSolitude TragicSolitude

    @Mandy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763264#Comment_3763264

    yes that is correct

    Thank you so much for answering my questions. I appreciate both you and Peanits taking the time to clear up some of the confusion we all have on these matters.

    In response to the answer itself, though (and I'm not looking for an explanation or even a reply, I just want to share my feelings on this): Ouch. That's not great.

  • Nazzzak Nazzzak

    Just FYI - there's now an option to link our Nintendo accounts in our BHVR accounts 😁 may as well get in early

  • Mandy Mandy

    @TragicSolitude said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763265#Comment_3763265

    Thank you so much for answering my questions. I appreciate both you and Peanits taking the time to clear up some of the confusion we all have on these matters.

    In response to the answer itself, though (and I'm not looking for an explanation or even a reply, I just want to share my feelings on this): Ouch. That's not great.

    completely understandable <3

  • mikaaareid mikaaareid

    @Peanits said:

    I have some answers!

    1. Yes, those will be transferred.
    2. Cosmetics will also be transferred; they are considered part of your inventory.
    3. Your progress will be transferred even if you don't own the DLC. If you don't have access to that character on the other platform, you will of course need to purchase them again in order to play them, though. Additionally, if you've prestiged them, their unique perks will be unlocked on other characters even if you don't have access to the characters themselves.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763067#Comment_3763067

    Was actually in the middle of typing out an answer as you posted this! No, it's mostly just been a busy week and we're prioritizing ongoing issues. The kinks have been worked out, but sometimes we need to poke our tech teams for help answering some of the most specific questions. Hoping to get more answers out when we get the chance.

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!
    That cleared out things for me <3

  • Ricardo170373 Ricardo170373

    I have..

    Deathslinger P10 and zero survivors puddings offerings Devotion 24 account
    Deathslinger P5 and 50 survivors puddings offerings Devotion 7 account

    after sync i will have a P10 deathslinger with 50 survivor puddings right?

  • TragicSolitude TragicSolitude

    @Mandy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763271#Comment_3763271

    completely understandable <3

    Another question occurred to me: What about the characters that came with the game? I bought the Silent Hill edition on Nintendo Switch, which came with numerous characters who don't come with the PC version. Do all of those characters transfer over from Switch to PC?

    I guess this question actually pertains to the other consoles, as well. Will ownership of the characters that came with the PS4 and Xbox versions of DbD be unlocked on PC?

  • For_The_People For_The_People

    @Nazzzak said:

    Just FYI - there's now an option to link our Nintendo accounts in our BHVR accounts 😁 may as well get in early

    Thank you!! I just linked now and ready!

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  • stormihues stormihues

    @Subject107 said:

    I would like to ask for 1 clarification. When Peanits here says "Yes, those will be transferred." He is referring to characters bought with iri shards as per the OPs question. But is this also the case for characters bought with auric cells using the in game store, (Not the Nintendo E-Shop) or does the cross-progression have a way of determining which are bought with iri shards/auric cells and only awarding the iri shard purchases among sync-up?

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3763080#Comment_3763080

    I’m very curious to know the answer to this

  • Nazzzak Nazzzak

    I was just thinking... does this mean for Twitch rewards, we can just use the Switch codes and we'll get it on our other platform/s too? Or are they counted as Switch exclusives?

  • AbsolutGrndZer0 AbsolutGrndZer0

    @TragicSolitude said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3762926#Comment_3762926

    I wrote a long post with sources already explaining why BHVR is on the hook for this:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/420404/bhvr-switch-players-bought-dlc-because-you-repeatedly-stated-it-would-transfer

    I refrain from speculation when it comes to who's at fault for what behind the scenes with contracts and negotiations. But when it comes to who made public promises to existing and potential Switch players since 2020, encouraging people to buy and put up with a port that started off questionable and whose performance has only degraded over time, that's BHVR. I'm sorry BHVR's left holding the ball here when there were two parties involved, but making statements to customers and accepting money means they have obligations.

    They could start with answering questions and clearing up confusion.

    So you added emphasis to a phrase, then proceed to completely ignore it? It says right there in the part YOU EMPHASIZED that exceptions could come from external licensing requirements.

    "Exceptions might have to be made to accommodate for some external licensing needs."

  • TragicSolitude TragicSolitude

    @AbsolutGrndZer0 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3762934#Comment_3762934

    So you added emphasis to a phrase, then proceed to completely ignore it? It says right there in the part YOU EMPHASIZED that exceptions could come from external licensing requirements.

    "Exceptions might have to be made to accommodate for some external licensing needs."

    I didn't emphasize that, it was italicized by BHVR in the original post. Between that statement and the problems with Freddy's chapter (he was delayed reaching Switch, right? I think he was), that statement was the reason I was expecting licensed DLC not to carry over. I didn't expect non-licensed original DLC not to transfer.

    Edit: The next statement in the post I wrote once again says DLCs will transfer. That's the quote I added emphasis to. It's from an announcement made in 2021 that Switch cross-progression was done and going live. Not a promise or a "we're working on it," but a public statement that work on Switch cross-progression was finished.

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