SURV SIDED PATCH AGAIN
- 40 sec chase with 8 sec heal still a thing
- 30 sec gens still a thing
- all hex perks dead
- all gen regress perks dead
- body block bully etc still a thing
- more camp tunnel ( bec why i should go and pressure/kick gens if it gives me nothing )
- swf still rules the game
- voice chat.exe discord.exe hud exe still feels like cheating
- dh still a thing ( and even if not . easy to replace )
- I cant even make a build for killer bec 90% perks now trash or countered just by didcord.exe ( like DMS for example )
- game still balanced around cryinng skill issue survs ( gqme cant be balanced around noobs because the noobility line just goes down every time untill moment survs get the flying getpack and still will cry )
"Ouuu my teammates are bad" - so learn the game mmr will rise and you will feel surv power. Or get discord.exe legal cheating
PLAYING BETTER as KILLER result in higher mmr and more and more unfair games and swf bully etc...games where you cant do nothing abd stay afk bec its horrible to play with 30 sec gens without BNP even....
PLAYING BETTER as SURV result in higher mmr with better team more easy walk in park games....
GIVE ME A REASON TO PLAY KILLER?
" Ouu but 60% winrate " - first its killrate and not winrate....second by this obviously wrong statistics Nurse is worst killer....so. Mb buff her? Or survs can only say for killrates when they need it. ....
Casuals and noobs which go cry on forum instead of rising skill killing every game....
For those who say killer still issue - its not sbout skill its about how unfair survs are to killer even heaving ability to compliyely ignore perks or stealth etc by side programm....
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At least give us choice to play vs SWF or not ... I dont want to play unfair games....
If both sides play perfect survs will allways win ,- thats what called surv sided balance
Game is balanced around bad skill / new survs due to fact that new players are main money income....resulting in unfair gameplay mid to high
But devs forget that even if survs are main money ... The killers are reason ppl come to game and hyped at start
Us vs them, get some new material. Extremely boring, gotta spice it up.
Nobody cared enough so you bumped your own thread twice, nice.
The game is massively survivor sided and cant be balanced when 80% of the players are looking out for the side they play. Every time a patch even remotely favours killers the toys are out the pram till they get their own way.
At least fix unfair things like insta heals...voicechat.exe.....swf...genspeed.....hex vs boons....etc
And for GOD SAKE
Why killer cant destroy boon..
...............,
You can. Run Shattered Hope.
just tunnel and camp
SWF and discord aren't going anywhere. Lots of people want to play with their friends, no possible way to prove they aren't on voice chat.
Bully squads aren't going anywhere. As long as survivors have some means to slow down the killer there will be teams who play that way.
8 second heal is much less likely to pull off now and absolutely requires a teammate.
gqme cant be balanced around noobs because the noobility line just goes down every time untill moment survs get the flying getpack and still will cryAre you upset about SWFs or low tier MMR?
GIVE ME A REASON TO PLAY KILLER?Okay, don't. If you aren't enjoying it don't play killer.
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Survivors have been saying they want three general things addressed - 3 gens, facecamping, tunneling. They partially got the first one, we'll see if the dedicated 3 genners can still hold. Killers have complained about self heals, DH, BNP, and CoH. Self heals weaker, DH loses at least a third of its value (likely more as its first use on an early game chase is most powerful) and CoH was a nerf and a buff (overall nerf). BNPs are still around and likely will be next on the nerf list as their one reason for existing, to break a 3 gen, isn't really valid anymore.
Oh?
Are you gonna dodge 2-mans? 3-mans?
Or just 4-mans?
Why? If higher MMR killers dodge swfs then all low and mid-MMR solo survivors will end up getting these killers who will steamroll them. How is that fair and not putting others at a disadvantage?
Then stop playing DBD. Most Survivors who play with friends aren't good. 99% of the time, you can beat them easily. You are using SWF as an excuse.
No matter how hard you rage, BHVR has already said that it isn't cheating to use Discord or use Steam.
It's not cheating to play with friends.
It's not cheating to use Xbox Live Parties or PSN Parties.
How would you even regulate that lmao?
Then at least let me know when I'm against a SWF lobby so I can dodge it.Yeah, that's never going to happen. At best, BHVR might consider allowing people to know whether they hit a SWF in the endgame, and they've already shot that idea down on the forum.
I'm 100% soloQ and see your point, but its not going anywhere.
I'd honestly love to see SWF revealed in the post-game. Good players can already tell.
It'll just check some people's egos.
Absolutely correct
You are asking for regulation, since you quite boldly declared them to be "cheating by using third party software"
Don't back down now. Are they or are they not cheating? If they are cheating, you want them to be regulated. If they aren't, you have zero argument and are just salty.
why are you still playing? Do like i did: UNISTALL THE GAME. It's not worth our time, especially in this sorry state (you'll also feel MUCH better knowing that you have more time to dedicate to other things/games). If they want to have bot killers then so be it, they will have fun to beat those killers and pressing m1 on generators all the time i guess...
it's not cheating for them because they'll gain money from them, otherwise it easily could be since that "feature" will essencially nullify certain perks that killer have based on terror radious/stealth... it's a blatant fact that can't be denied that SWF have more chances to win that solo queue survivors... BEhavior on that regard have double standards when things involves money...
What an awful and completely selfish idea.
Agreed. I get their argument on keeping MMR secret, but it would be nice to know the frequency of either hitting SWFs or playing with them as a soloQ.
I don't trust the matchmaker very much, however, the only thing MMR has been decent at is keeping new players away from veterans.
However, what you are saying is that you would INTENTIONALLY screw with it in order to find an easier game and sentence someone else to get backfilled into a game they probably shouldn't have been in. Do you want 5 hour Killers playing against 2K hour teams? Because that's exactly how you get that.
You are using SWF as an excuse. I can give you tips as Killer to improve and deal with better players, but something tells me you aren't interested.
Pretty much everything you've said has been something all experienced Killer players go through until they realize it doesn't really matter.
Either you become bitter and turn into an angry Killer main who hates Survivors
or
You realize you just need to be better and win anyways. It took me a while, but that's what I did. There's so many things in this game that aren't fair. That's rather the nature of asymmetrical games, I wouldn't get hung up on one.
No you cant. Nobody will ever take it.
This must be baseline
Why surv dont need to take perk for totems then huh?
You asked for a solution.
I gave you one.
You just don't like it.
Give me a tip how to use pain res dms vs hud and discord
Give me a tip how to use stealth vs discord and fog of wise swf abuse
Give me a tip how to stop 30 sec gens without new parts while you run other side of map at start ...and no corrupt not helping
Give tip how to beat God pallets
Give me tip how to pressure gens while i have no regress perks left with 40 sec chases and 8 sec heals
Give me tip how to use pinhead when survs making 30 sec gens ignoring active chain hunt
Give me tip how to tunnel when all others bodyblock coordinating dh cooldowns
Give me tip how to use hex vs discord when all know from start where hexes are
Continue?
I like when survs call things like Discord giving you allmost all surv aura perks without occupying a perk slot...a skill killer issue....
You say this like its 1 sided. Both sides do this. And there are only a handful of people on this forum that are actually objective and can take a step back from 'their side' and look at everything from a neutral stance, b/c they care about the game.
You can preach this 'survivors cry till they get their own way' all you want in your mind and on the forums but the fact is, both sides do this (including you right now) but I guess ignorance is bliss for you and others. Keep doin you, you're def objective and def not biased at all.
Instant heals were nerfed a long time ago. There used to be two of them and they were LITERALLY instant. Gen speeds have been nerfed multiple times. They upped the time it takes from 80-90 seconds, toolboxes were massively nerfed a ways back, Brand New Parts were nerfed a long time ago. All boons are trash come patch where things like Devour Hope is still incredibly powerful, that's why it's such a risky perk. A good spawn point all but guarantees it wins the game, where a bad one will merely waste a survivor's time to break it.
You should go back and see how the game was several years ago before you talk about this stuff. Back when there were two to three times the number of pallets, literal infinite loops, literally instant heals where a button push healed a health state instantly, Decisive Strike where you'd pick up the survivor and just get stabbed in the neck a couple seconds later, pretty much guaranteeing you need to down them four times... Let's just say you don't seem to understand just how easy killer is now compared to what it was before.
Aside from a handful of ridiculously overpowered things like no-hook mori's and the like, the power balance has drastically skewed towards the killer side of the coin from where it was initially. I don't necessarily think balance is possible (or even desirable) with how wildly varied the builds people use can be. (like no addon M1 killer vs full sweat squad of 16 meta perks, 4 good items with addons, etc) But don't talk like the game isn't the easiest for killer that it's ever been.
Anyone saying that people playing with friends are cheating for a competitive advantage is way too sweaty and bitter. Most SWF's are just people of varying skill levels playing a game with their friends. Bully Squads are definitely a thing but they are probably the smallest sub-group on the game and no serious person is gonna defend how they treat killer players.
I sympathise with anyone who has the game's mechanics used to intentionally grief them, whether that be bully squads stun locking the killer for 30 minutes straight or a new survivor getting face camped out of the game before they get to play or even learn anything. But if the game's balance is so bad that it results in you making hysterical posts about how the other side gets to win for free and your side is always being mistreated, then you should definitely leave and play something else. There's no need for you to stick around and fight to make the game better for everyone (It's just a game and the world will be on fire in a decade or two, so who cares).
Just leave and try to enjoy something else.
PR will still damage the gen. You use your game sense as Killer and patrol gens, if they stick on it, you get a hit and DMS blocks it. If they run early, DMS blocks it.
I don't believe Fogwise shows Undetectable Killers.
30 second gens should only be possible under extreme circumstances with Hyperfocus and a good toolbox. Otherwise, it's people stacking on gens, which is good for you as a Killer.
Force them to drop the pallet, break it and leave. Boom, now there's a dead zone.
You have regression perks. You should not have forty second chases and the heals will be 16 seconds in CoH since two Survivors need to invest the time to go there.
Survivors cannot do gens in 30 seconds during Chain Hunt.
You...don't swing into DH?
Use Haunted Grounds.
Half of these things I believe are exaggerations, one is just not true and the rest are kinda easy tips to give.
If it was unintended, why did the devs add SWF in the first place?
So you're saying it was not, in fact, unintended?
More time doesnt mean you're good, I have 2500h and still not good.
I had a night few days ago play for 3 matches and 2 were Nurse, 1 was Pinky finger Clown. Way far unfair for me, I still play, accept defeat and move on.
Funny thing is, SWFs have 15% higher escape rate than Solo. IF SWFs are removed, what happens next you can guess.
-> Kill rate greatly increased -> Lead to further Killer nerfs.
Currently you're in a perfect spot for Killers for all time, where you can decide to play chill and keep dominating mid MMR with 10 hooks and 2 kills, or you sweating to get equal kill rate with 2-3 hooks against high MMR
Devs already said: no matter how you play, it would work half the time.
Stop playing killer. Honestly, go survivor, take a flashlight and have fun. If your team is not repairing you can suicide on hook and give the victory to the killer.
I said it in another thread and I say it again:
One of us, one of us, one of us...
I am tired of this....survs just used to have abnormal things...
Swf ...its ok and good to play with friends...
Its not ok when it gives you unfair advantage....
In other games this coordination improves...
But only in dbd swf voice comm allow you to completely ignore game mechanics and killer perks.....
Do you have any tips for Billy and Oni. Controlling them on console doesn't feel rewarding
As i said playing killer will lead you top higher mmr where swf i have 9/10 games making game totally unfair and not fun ....no matter sweat or not....
And please stop saying things like ...some swf or some survs play for fun and loose, or that you have 4k meaning game is ok.....its not smart to say it.....
You dont say in cs go that your team have skill issue loosing to wallhacker( same power lvl as swf dbd )
You dont cry in cs go that you died first - ouh you tunneled me with awp omg ...please nerf awp.... But your team wins....
So why i should be ok feeling when loosing in unfair games vs Swf and other stuff in dbd just because survs who dont want to learn game and play good are easy to beat??
Thats all