Nurse experiment (400 kills)

Currently Salgu (the most popular Korean streamer) is doing a nurse experiment in order to get the developers to see just how broken a killer she is. The challenge is 400 kills in 100 games.

As of now he is 15 games in. He is using a variety of perks and addons. No moris or map offerings.

He has been facing many really good survivors - survivors who I have played with/against myself (I play in the Asia region).

The results so far? 58 of a possible 60 kills. 1 of those escapes? A hatch escape from a slugged survivor he couldn't find. The other? A game on badham preschool where his ruin was broken almost immediately, the final survivor only narrowly escaped by seconds and he himself said that he played awful that game. The survivors in that game have been in several other games too, proving the escape to be an anomoly, as every other game has been all but domination. The generators have been powered only once.

Is this what it takes to get the developers to see what players who have intimate knowledge of this game already know? That nurse is broken.

Unlike most of the de-pip squad's games against Nurses, this Nurse knows how to play. He is a very well known streamer in the Korean and Asian region, and the survivors in his games are aware of this experiment. They are trying hard to win. With perks and items.

At the end of the experiment it is very likely he will have a 99% kill-rate. So tell me, in what world is this balanced? Despite consistently going against really good survivors using perks and items, their chance of survival is effectively 1% against a really good nurse? (if we ignore the fact that he himself admitted that he made too many mistakes against really good survivors on a map that will soon be updated). Is this balance?

Comments

  • I will keep an open mind about this, but there are a couple of things I should mention:

    1. This streamer needs to keep tabs on all the matches and outcomes. The depip squad had a spreadsheet. I want to see something similar.
    2. A large number of his matches should be played without add ons. This will give us an idea on whether base kit Nurse is balanced.

    Ideally, I would also like to see game play from the survivor perspective as well. That way we can better judge how optimally the survivors played. Playing against well known survivor streamers is a plus as well.

    Lastly, if he can break up his matches and post them on YouTube (with a clear title), that would help make the analysis easier.

  • @xChrisx said:

    Yea i hope she will be looked at after the freddy rework


    There's so many other killers who need to be looked at first. I really can't believe people would rather nerf a viable killer before even getting dev's to look at some of the low tier killers. Talk about some bad priorities. In the end if you nerf nurse all thats gonna happen if the meta will just use other viable killers, but then again they need a nerf too.

  • People find anything to ######### about. Nurse is one of the only viable killers that can apply map pressure, has the power role in a chase, and isn’t able to be looped. Her add-ons need a change, Nurse should not be able to blink more than two, MAYBE three times. Her base-kit does not need a change though.

    It’s just gonna go down the line of people bitching and moaning about the strongest killers. After Nurse it’ll be Spirit (which people already complain about). Then Billy. Then Hag. Then Huntress. Just find the next best thing to complain about 4Head.

  • @Raptorrotas said:

    Survivors x4 dictate flow of the game: fine and balanced. Using external means of boosting performance, allowed.

    One of FIFTEEN killers dictstes the flow of a chase instead of dully reacting to survivor loops: OmG nErF ThAt oP....

    ....

    Survivors got bad and dont get better because they dont have to.

    Killers swap to nurse because she's one of the few to RELIABLY compete with survivors.

    Yea but problem is when survivors don't want to play against Nurse and also swap to play Nurse lul, why you even play other character in this game lul? as a nurse you're always power role, if you lose you suck, not bc you meet good player/s.

  • @MegMain98 said:

    People find anything to ######### about. Nurse is one of the only viable killers that can apply map pressure, has the power role in a chase, and isn’t able to be looped. Her add-ons need a change, Nurse should not be able to blink more than two, MAYBE three times. Her base-kit does not need a change though.

    It’s just gonna go down the line of people bitching and moaning about the strongest killers. After Nurse it’ll be Spirit (which people already complain about). Then Billy. Then Hag. Then Huntress. Just find the next best thing to complain about 4Head.

    Yes, you're very smart.

  • I thought that thread was downed to Oblivion.




    I was wrong.

  • @Liruliniel said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/590830#Comment_590830

    There's so many other killers who need to be looked at first. I really can't believe people would rather nerf a viable killer before even getting dev's to look at some of the low tier killers. Talk about some bad priorities. In the end if you nerf nurse all thats gonna happen if the meta will just use other viable killers, but then again they need a nerf too.

    No one is imo on Nurse level, even Spirit compare to Sally, even if she's 2nd best killer, she's still no one, Nurse is the only one in her own league.

  • @Andreyu44 said:

    Amazing how we need to discuss why Nurse is OP,despite being obvious why she is.

    She's first dlc killer in this game, she was simple and stupid solution in the past to fix in this time infinites, double pallets, ect. no other can have a chance to catch survivors in this time, so just they add cheat in legal form, Nurse. And she stay in this game to this day, even if I want to create cheat in this game, i just create something about teleporting with ignoring objects lmao, as a killer you just have legal hacks

  • I haven't had to play a nurse in forever.

    My game mysteriously crashes every nurse game

  • @noneofyourbusiness said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/595823#Comment_595823

    No one is imo on Nurse level, even Spirit compare to Sally, even if she's 2nd best killer, she's still no one, Nurse is the only one in her own league.


    True, but shes also one of the very few viable killers. Shes a necessary evil till other killers start being viable for more than early ranks. Basically all I see is bad survivors complaining about the Nurse. She can't be looped in the conventional means no, but you can still get away regardless if you know how to use her Blink against her. I will admit she needs her addons heavy reworked, but again other killers need that too. Your complaints are not overly justified, but they are at the same time though you need perspective before nerfing a viable killer give other killers the attention and love they actively need. The fact shes difficult to learn makes it when other killers are buffed she will become less common as well.

  • @Liruliniel said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/595948#Comment_595948

    True, but shes also one of the very few viable killers. Shes a necessary evil till other killers start being viable for more than early ranks. Basically all I see is bad survivors complaining about the Nurse. She can't be looped in the conventional means no, but you can still get away regardless if you know how to use her Blink against her. I will admit she needs her addons heavy reworked, but again other killers need that too. Your complaints are not overly justified, but they are at the same time though you need perspective before nerfing a viable killer give other killers the attention and love they actively need. The fact shes difficult to learn makes it when other killers are buffed she will become less common as well.

    After this post I assume you don't know much about me, i'm not play survivor a long LONG time, bc they're weak as #########, and playing only one killer bc there's no any other killers on her level after around 800hrs in a rope is boring as hell, game is not satysfaying and I don't want to be looped, and spirit has garbage cooldown so now I just have pause about DBD, there's no reason to play this game imo, i achieve everything what anyone can do

  • @noneofyourbusiness said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/596333#Comment_596333

    After this post I assume you don't know much about me, i'm not play survivor a long LONG time, bc they're weak as #########, and playing only one killer bc there's no any other killers on her level after around 800hrs in a rope is boring as hell, game is not satysfaying and I don't want to be looped, and spirit has garbage cooldown so now I just have pause about DBD, there's no reason to play this game imo, i achieve everything what anyone can do


    No I dont know you why would I know you? If you truly think that I doubt you have played that many hours. Why nerf a killer instead of make more viable. Sounds like survivor main to me not killer.

  • So what? A similar experiment was with a group of survivors playing as competitivly as possible and they only lost a few gamesout of 100(if im remembering correctly). Besides most survivors suck against nurse.

  • any updates on it?

  • @noneofyourbusiness said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/594131#Comment_594131

    She's first dlc killer in this game, she was simple and stupid solution in the past to fix in this time infinites, double pallets, ect. no other can have a chance to catch survivors in this time, so just they add cheat in legal form, Nurse. And she stay in this game to this day, even if I want to create cheat in this game, i just create something about teleporting with ignoring objects lmao, as a killer you just have legal hacks

    You conveniently forgot SWF was added about the same time as nurse. Survivors can never accuse nurse of cheating or even having an unfair advantage.

    If friends can play together there needs to be killer(s) that can deal with them.

  • @noneofyourbusiness said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/594131#Comment_594131

    She's first dlc killer in this game, she was simple and stupid solution in the past to fix in this time infinites, double pallets, ect. no other can have a chance to catch survivors in this time, so just they add cheat in legal form, Nurse. And she stay in this game to this day, even if I want to create cheat in this game, i just create something about teleporting with ignoring objects lmao, as a killer you just have legal hacks

    You conveniently forgot SWF was added about the same time as nurse. Survivors can never accuse nurse of cheating or even having an unfair advantage.

    If friends can play together there needs to be killer(s) that can deal with them.

  • @noneofyourbusiness said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/594131#Comment_594131

    She's first dlc killer in this game, she was simple and stupid solution in the past to fix in this time infinites, double pallets, ect. no other can have a chance to catch survivors in this time, so just they add cheat in legal form, Nurse. And she stay in this game to this day, even if I want to create cheat in this game, i just create something about teleporting with ignoring objects lmao, as a killer you just have legal hacks

    You conveniently forgot SWF was added about the same time as nurse. Survivors can never accuse nurse of cheating or even having an unfair advantage.

    If friends can play together there needs to be killer(s) that can deal with them.

  • @noneofyourbusiness said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/594131#Comment_594131

    She's first dlc killer in this game, she was simple and stupid solution in the past to fix in this time infinites, double pallets, ect. no other can have a chance to catch survivors in this time, so just they add cheat in legal form, Nurse. And she stay in this game to this day, even if I want to create cheat in this game, i just create something about teleporting with ignoring objects lmao, as a killer you just have legal hacks

    You conveniently forgot SWF was added about the same time as nurse. Survivors can never accuse nurse of cheating or even having an unfair advantage.

    If friends can play together there needs to be killer(s) that can deal with them.

  • It seems this experiment is moot considering they said they ARE changing Nurse. And by the sound of things, it was something they were planning to do for some time, meaning this was pointless from the beginning.

    Honestly people need to stop with these "experiments" simply because the points have already been made.

  • @thesuicidefox said:

    It seems this experiment is moot considering they said they ARE changing Nurse. And by the sound of things, it was something they were planning to do for some time, meaning this was pointless from the beginning.

    Honestly people need to stop with these "experiments" simply because the points have already been made.

    Is that like that depip squad that gets quote on the daily in these forums and this thread even though the game has changed significantly since that "experiment" was conducted?


  • @Liruliniel said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/596517#Comment_596517

    No I dont know you why would I know you? If you truly think that I doubt you have played that many hours. Why nerf a killer instead of make more viable. Sounds like survivor main to me not killer.

    I know you can't take truth, ofc, like someone said "reality is often disappointing", they add Spirit and most of people still playing Nurse, bc she's easier to play and stronger, so what's the point of Sprit or ANY other killer when in the game is Nurse? She makes this all group useless and pointless. Seems like survivor? oh dear, I wish for one day to have a reason to play the survivor, bc now I don't see any of it.

  • @AChaoticKiller said:

    So what? A similar experiment was with a group of survivors playing as competitivly as possible and they only lost a few gamesout of 100(if im remembering correctly). Besides most survivors suck against nurse.

    You're talk about depip squad? This experiment is so outdated.

  • @Sluzzy said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/595953#Comment_595953

    You conveniently forgot SWF was added about the same time as nurse. Survivors can never accuse nurse of cheating or even having an unfair advantage.

    If friends can play together there needs to be killer(s) that can deal with them.

    Nurse was balanced compare to survivors before nerfs, nerfs I mean ALL nerfs, idk how many of it survivor got, this is for sure ridicolous number.

  • @thesuicidefox said:

    It seems this experiment is moot considering they said they ARE changing Nurse. And by the sound of things, it was something they were planning to do for some time, meaning this was pointless from the beginning.

    Honestly people need to stop with these "experiments" simply because the points have already been made.

    These experiments are meant to show and say "hey these are not jokes, this is the thing that needs to be addressed".

  • @CornChip said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/597710#Comment_597710

    Is that like that depip squad that gets quote on the daily in these forums and this thread even though the game has changed significantly since that "experiment" was conducted?

    Yes, idk how anyone can compare depip squad when survivors're too much stonger than this nowadays, this is high level being idiot.

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