If dbd is so survivor sided, why are most matches ….

A 4K for the killer across ranks? The stats show the majority of games are in favor of the killer, and that over 70% are 4k rounds. How can people say the game is at all survivor biased when the data shows otherwise?

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  • @OniWantsYourMacaroni said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/259524/if-dbd-is-so-survivor-sided-why-are-most-matches

    It's because most survivor are pretty bad at the game.Combine this with crappy matchmaking and you'll see why kill rates are so high.

    However if you put 4 really good survivors against a killer things will look completely different.

    The game balance is mostly fine in your average public game but pretty much breaks in really high level/comp level gameplay

    Not only that. You have to factor in Tome Challenges. While killer challenges are basically just your usual objective anyways and you don't divert from playing your usual game at all - the survivor challenges are more often pretty weird and you need to go out of your way to complete them.


    In casual play this makes survivors not play at their A-game and not efficient at tall, thus giving the killer way more time to 3/4k. A sweaty competitive team however would never do that. They play to win, not to complete their tome, while many casuals play to complete their tome and put that before actually winning.

  • "my Games are fine thus you are wrong mentality"

    What People try to say is ... the Devs have to find a way how to nerf these tryhard swf >red< ranks ending games in 5mins and buff new solo survivors at rank 20...

    Thats why we have survival rates of 25% at rank 20 and above 75% at rank 1 (search the dev statistic they released a while ago).

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    When 4 solo survivor at rank 20 with no perks play a match it favors the Killer.

    When 4 great survivor with the best perks in a swf group on discord go tryhard the game heavly favors survivor.

    When 1-2 survivor do random things you have a decent game (i.e if you sit at rank 11 most of the games have a decent length).

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    Long Story short if you sit in red ranks and dont play the strongest Killers you can complain... if you play spirit at rank8 and above and complain well get gud :D.

    Adjusting Killer Hitbox to match Survivor Hitbox would be the go-to solution (cuz most survivor dont even know they can run certain loops tighter then the killer and waste insane amount of time). So it would only affect the best 1% of survivor and not the casual playerbase.

  • @van9684 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2292553#Comment_2292553

    Data says opposite. So while I enjoy your ideas, they just aren’t based on data or reality. Thanks though.

    Data says nurse is bad would you consider buffing her? Im genuinely wondering? Also kill rates for a victory as killer in red requires at least 3 kills under the current pip system. There are exceptions with some high point scoring killers.

  • @van9684 said:

    A 4K for the killer across ranks? The stats show the majority of games are in favor of the killer, and that over 70% are 4k rounds. How can people say the game is at all survivor biased when the data shows otherwise?

    Ah another useless post of the most survivor biased forum user. Even more then the lord sluzzy.

    Just git gud noob survivor.

  • Everyone just saying it's bad survivors gives me the impression they think all killer players are equal. There's bad killers too and I would think that evens out the rates just as much.

    One bad survivor can screw over their entire side, two bad survivors will do it for sure then everyone goes down with the ship, especially with end game collapse now.

    Survivors are more vulnerable to bad players.

  • @van9684 said:

    A 4K for the killer across ranks? The stats show the majority of games are in favor of the killer, and that over 70% are 4k rounds. How can people say the game is at all survivor biased when the data shows otherwise?

    Because the game isn't balanced for solos anymore. Yet somehow they also arent commiting to balancing for SWF. So we're in this weird limbo of solo being incredibly weak but swf still being stupid strong.

  • @GentlemanFridge said:

    First of all, "the stats" are highly unreliable, and more of a novelty.

    Second, hardly anyone who regulars these forums believes the game is biased towards a particular side. There are some exceptions, but those are balanced out by coming for and from both sides of the spectrum.

    I've never seen such a neutral, non biased post on this forum get so many upvotes. Are people finally waking up?

    Agree wholeheartedly btw. I think people that watch their favorite streamers who play the game for a living then get upset they aren't as good are also in a similar spot.

  • Because Survivors suck. This is the game where the majority of the Killer cast is objectively, mathematically hard-countered by running in a straight line.

  • "if this game is survivor sided how come all of my survivor friends who suck at the game cant win?"

    this is what this sounds like

    There's a handful of things that are survivor-sided within this game, that doesn't make every survivor automatically have an advantage against the killer. There are many MANY survivors out there who are, to put it simply, horrible at the game, which is why this data exists.

  • @van9684 said:

    A 4K for the killer across ranks? The stats show the majority of games are in favor of the killer, and that over 70% are 4k rounds. How can people say the game is at all survivor biased when the data shows otherwise?

    Hey just a guy thats interested. Where can I find the data youre using to reference?

  • @CoalTower said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2293922#Comment_2293922

    You're putting words in my mouth again. I never said that.

    Survivors in general, regardless of rank or skill, has a lot of overpowered things that carry them. Put these on a good survivor and the game becomes unwinnable unless you're Nurse/Spirit.

    Then why do bad survivors get swamped by bad killers?

  • @Gladonos said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2294015#Comment_2294015

    Then why do bad survivors get swamped by bad killers?

    Because they're worse than the killer.


    Edit: You need to remember that baby survivors don't know anything. They can't loop or hit skill checks.

  • @UncleStabby said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/259524/if-dbd-is-so-survivor-sided-why-are-most-matches

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2292543#Comment_2292543

    As a Killer main, I can confirm this. Most people who play killer lose a match or two and then assume the problem is the game, not their own skill.

    Both sides have advantages, some fair, others not so fair (keys and Freddy lunges, to name only two)

    Everyone on these forums need to hurry up and grow some thicker skin. At the end of the day, it comes down to wether or not you had fun.

    This is extremely true haha. I'm def somewhat more of a killer player now but I'm still new to it. I know it's my fault because im not that experienced when I fail to apply map pressure and only land myself with a 2k sometimes. It's fine though, can't win them all however it's def a learning curve for next games.

  • Why are they worse then the killer?

  • @van9684 said:

    A 4K for the killer across ranks? The stats show the majority of games are in favor of the killer, and that over 70% are 4k rounds. How can people say the game is at all survivor biased when the data shows otherwise?

    Stats also says Nurse is the weakest killer with an average ofless than 50% kills if i remember correctly... just saying...

  • @SPADESinst said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2292565#Comment_2292565

    This is extremely true haha. I'm def somewhat more of a killer player now but I'm still new to it. I know it's my fault because im not that experienced when I fail to apply map pressure and only land myself with a 2k sometimes. It's fine though, can't win them all however it's def a learning curve for next games.

    Best thing you can do is find a Killer you really like to play. It can take hours of experimentation to find THE ONE, but when you do, it doesnt matter if you win or lose. Its these characters that keep me playing this game.

    I just want the fps fixes to come soon so I can play killer again. I was born to be Ghostface.

  • @aroell said:

    Most people here are killer mains, they end up getting a 3k instead of a 4K then the come here and cry.

    This x1000. If I can play Trickster at red ranks and win most my matches (there are some hard losses though, Mother's Dwelling's hugeness is rough for that slow KPOP man) in Red Ranks... I really don't know if these people are just salty when they don't 4K constant which some on here admitted that is the only WIN for them or they are just really.... really bad.

  • @VexTheHex said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2292543#Comment_2292543

    This x1000. If I can play Trickster at red ranks and win most my matches (there are some hard losses though, Mother's Dwelling's hugeness is rough for that slow KPOP man) in Red Ranks... I really don't know if these people are just salty when they don't 4K constant which some on here admitted that is the only WIN for them or they are just really.... really bad.

    Ahhah yeah, many people think that they are better than they actually are so if they lose it’s automatically the games fault, never take a few minutes of their life to analyze gameplay and see if they did something wrong.

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