What do you think of new OoO?
As Trapper main, its always a pain to see an OoO in game. It gives too much power to survivor, as long as you're outside terror, you can always see killer. Without Killer acknowledge (by killer facing another direction).
Though with this new change. Being obsession + both side see each other 3sec once every 30sec. Feel abit useless. Especially being obsession requirement.
As my propose. Still keep it useful for survivor, but not madly OP against Trapper/Hag, or to UP vs stealth Killers:
If both Killer & Survivor look at each other direction (45 degree cone) when outside TR. They reveal aura of each other for 5sec. Then have a cool down of 30sec
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Personally I think the change is healthy. The only survivors I ever see running it is usually the SWF teams who sweat harder than a pro-athlete. At least this change will negate them completely screwing over a killer and not give an entire team an advantage because 1 single perk tells them where the killer is and what his schedule is at all times.
The perk's been disgusting for 4+ years, I think changing it to something potentially bad is way healthier for the game than leaving it as it is.
For me though I honestly like the new rework.
"Whenever your aura is revealed to the Killer, the killers aura is revealed to you"
Does this mean if a killer runs BBQ or Nurses you'll see them?
I think this is the best solution to fix it. Almost identical to my idea on fixing OoO so ofc I'm happy with it.
Yes or if you meet other killers with aura reading addons like Michael with mirror or Plague with incense.
Thanks for letting he know, I was worried I read it wrong haha
It needs a change... just not this laughable change. First off, will not work unless you are Obsession which yeah, you cant have a 4man kill you with it sure but theres just nothing good to it. Take Mike with Scratched Mirror. You'll get notified of every time he sees your aura but you cant see his, basically just being Spinechill... in which case... just use Spinechill. Most killers often run BBQ so it's pointless for telling you the perks their using. Nurses is an easy call too. And compared to Better Together and Kindred, what does Object bring that you couldnt just use a better perk for?
The only really decent thing is knowing what addons their using but again, if its Wraith with All seeing. You wont see him. Perk will light up sure but that's it.
This, like DS, are both ill considered changes that dont even seem like the devs idea. Nor have they thought it through for every scenario. These seem fan made and the devs just thought "hey, they did our job for us. Let's roll with this" copied and paste.
i LOVE how they made it reveal the killer to you any time you are revealed to them.
and other aspect of it okay i guess, dunno if i like the 3 second aura reveal every 30 seconds or not.
it is definitely a LOT better then the current version though.
I think you misunderstand the rework's description.
If you are the Obsession, you get revealed to the Killer every 40/35/30 seconds. That is the only thing that changes if you are not the Obsession. The mutual aura reveals always works, regardless of Obsession status.
I like OoO being reworked. I'm a bit cautious of this particular proposal, but playtesting will determine if it works alright, and it's certainly better than the current abuse that could be done with Object. My only major complaint is that it's got a bit of the "T1 is arguably better than T3" dynamic which is never great to have in a Perk design.
Your partly right
The timer thing happens after a set amount of time if your the obsession and the other effect of ooo is if the killer can see your aura you can see theirs
Very good perk, no longer busted and nasty in SWF. I love it.
I also hope they hurry up with the Object changes a bit. I´ve played 6 matches today, 5 of which had at least one Object. It seems it´s a similar situation like with the keys, where now over 50% of lobbys have keys. The toxic trolls know their favorite toys are up for fixes so they are squeezing as much out of them as they can. Maybe I´ll take a break if this trend goes on.
New change still have the problems vs Trapper & Hag.
I think, my idea would remove all that, still a good perk for Solo (as they can control when to look at Killer). Good for Killer (they can control when to look at OoO Survivor).
I think I misunderstood the concept.
Non obsession:
If Killer see ur aura, u see them too.
If you're obsession:
Both of u see each other 3sec every 30sec.
Well now I think the change is pretty healthy and fair for both side. Though if OoO is obsession and Killer is Trapper/Hag. Its still quite annoying for them.
Well now I think the change is pretty healthy and fair for both side. Though if OoO is obsession and Killer is Trapper/Hag. Its still quite annoying for them.
Stealth killers on the other hand should get the recurring reveal (the one that goes off every 30 seconds), while not being visible to the Survivor (if the killer is in stealth). It's better against Trapper/Hag than against most killers, but worse against stealth killers such as Wraith.
I think the proposed change looks good and fun.
Honestly might run it now
I used OoO in solo games as it gives you good information on when to go for a safe and when not to. Since in most red rank solo games all gens wont be repaired, taking this perk is just suicide as the killer will see you every 30 sec, even when youre not looking at him. ez 4k slug when only 2 players are left.
it will still be a decent perk with a seal team.(the reason why killers wanted this perk to be nerfed in the first place). Another "great" decision by the devs, increasing the gap between solo and swf even more...
No it works if you are not the obsession. In fact it's great if you're not the obsession. The trick is that if you use it you will most likely be the obsession, so you need to wait for someone to DS the killer to remove the obsession from you.