Please Devs, Fix Billy (#BRINGBACKBILLY)
Devs, I've got some questions about everyone's favorite chainsaw brother, The Hillbilly. How do you guys take a character that is considered very fun and well respected among the community and manage to make him completely dead. Billy used to be very popular because he was just a ton of fun to play as and against. But ever since the nerf, everyone has just abandoned him.
First, you guys ruin his animations to "get rid of skybilly/spacebilly". Why can't you guys keep spacebilly in the game. I have never once heard someone complain about a Billy flying up in the sky. It's just funny and amusing to watch. No Billy mains actually exploited it to win games, they just wanted to show off. Also, getting on to a loop is still possible because you can saw off of a hill on to a pallet loop. You can even get on to jungle gyms/main structures if you bounce off a hill at a certain angle. How about that BHVR?
His new animations are completely terrible and make Billy much more unsatisfying to play as. While ending your saw, it faces your camera towards the floor, which takes away your sight on the survivor you were currently chasing. It just feels awful. And it looks like the saw is coming out of your body when you hit a survivor (if that makes sense). With the old one, you could see clearly ahead of you and it honestly just looked really nice and smooth. Also, the limping from the Billy's perspective that he got made him feel so slow for some reason and it felt terrible. Another animation that they changed was his chainsaw sprinting animation. Although I don't care much about this one, the new one looks kinda weird from a survivor's perspective because he's like bouncing up and down a little.
This one really isn't an animation, but his curving. They adjusted the curving sensitivity with the animation changes in April 2020 and it just feels off because you can hit that many hard flicks like you were able to before, which makes double engravings (the way I play Billy) much more unfun. I honestly don't get the point of this, but it's BHVR, they always ######### things up that didn't need touching.
Speaking of not needing touching, in early July of 2020, the mid-chapter patch released and Billy officially became a dead killer. Most Billy players quit playing him when the devs messed with his animations back in April, but there were still some sticking around with the killer afterwards. Then patch 4.1.0 hit and every Billy player disappeared into thin air just because he is so unfun and unsatisfying to play as.
His addon nerf was for the most part fine, but the thing is only like 2-3 of his old addons needed to be changed. These were primer bulb, especially tuning guide, and debatably spark plug. These all increased his charge time with zero downside to them. And combined with other charge time addons or speed addons (instasaw, crack billy, etc.), it made Billy 10x easier to play as and a pain in the ass to go against. I think myself and the entire rest of the community (even fellow Billy mains) agree that these addons had to be nerfed. BHVR did listen about that, but they pushed it way too far, reworking most of his addons.
I never really minded the new addons bc I only use double engravings, but there are just so many useless ones for him now. Both of his red addons are trash (even when they're put together) because any survivor with eyes will be able to see him sprinting towards you and reposition themselves. Then you've got other stealth-related addons like the buckle, leafy mash, and motor oil. Just like the previous ones, any survivor with eyes will render these addons completely useless. To be fair, he did get some pretty fun ones like lopro chains which lets to saw through pallets and get a hit, but the point is most of them aren't really useful. His speed, bumping, steering, and overheating ones are fine as they are, but everything else is either A: not fun to use or B: not beneficial enough. It was better when his addons just changed the numbers of his power and not add stupid effects.
Next, we have the overheat mechanic. This change was not the worst because it punished Billys that missed a lot of saws at loops, but that was the reason so many people had so much fun looping Billys. Because of how much counter-play he has as survivor. Creative Billys will go for all different kinds of curves and tricks to get skillful hits on survivors and they're genuinely getting outplayed. It's pure skill. Curving on Billy takes an insane amount of skill and takes months to get good at. Against good survivors, Billy was one of, if not the most balanced killer in the game because he can be looped pretty hard (by survivors that actually know what they're doing and not run without looking behind them) and in exchange he gets high mobility to pressure gens.
The overheat mechanic is just an annoying limit to Billy's creativity with his saw and makes him so much more frustrating to play as. Now before you go writing "WeLl I nEvEr OvErHeAt As BiLlY" it's double engravings (aka skillbilly) that gets hit the hardest by the overheat mechanic. While playing Billy without an extra charge time, you never overheat unless you miss literally every one of your saws (in which case you are just bad). But with a 24% increased charge time, you overheat in literally 2 1/2 saws. Double engravings also requires a lot of 99ing your saw to get the curve just right, resulting in even more heat. Just delete overheat. Replace his overheat addons by bringing back his cooldown addons or something.
Billy's base kit definitely did not need a nerf. It wasn't overpowered, the survivors you are giving us are just underpowered. Everyone said the Billy nerf was not justified at the patch, but guess what, they still went through with his changes. The devs need to stop listening to survivors that never admit their own mistakes and always blame the game for when they die and listen to the killer community. Devs are survivor mains change my mind.
UPVOTE TO GET DEV'S ATTENTION AND FOR THEM TO FINALLY LISTEN TO THEIR COMMUNITY BEFORE THEY ADD A BRUTALLY MURDER AND ADD A COOLDOWN TO EVERY OTHER KILLER, even your main.
#BRINGBACKBILLY
Comments
Bruh have you ever heard of a thing called paragraphs?
I agree. You failed to mention sounds, however, and they're what really gets on my nerves.
yeah his roar is awful and give survivors too much reaction time
really he hasnt changed much? tell that to his addons...
dude, paragraphs. Please. It hurts my eyes looking at all that. I'm still waiting for them to fix all of Nurses bugs. GL with getting Billy fixed.
fixed it sorry
he is literally ruined, he is still viable but so irritating and annoying to play as his mechanics feel clunky compared to the old billy, and his new addons are god awful and uncreative and i dont get how devs let them into the live servers
just remove the roar sound, I accepted the fact he got overheat as this made him more challenging to play as and my double engraving flickbilly addons are still viable
They gave Billy the Nurse treatment. Anything unfun or bugs on Billy won't get addressed.
At the OP, don't expect the Devs to address this as they will ignore this post and any posts about Billy just like they are did and are still doing to the Nurse.
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Yeah i mostly agree with everything that was said, unfortunately you did not mention sounds and the sounds are the cherry on top of a poop cocktail. I can not stand his roar, it sounds awful.
also my main killer has already her little adjustments, devs don't care at all for killers and the bugs they create with reworks. see survivors are just skins and for killers it is just about the latest creation which lots of people play. so you play something that is old like billy? well play oni, anyway do not hold your breath, i am waiting for over a year for them to fix bugs of nurse. hf but do not hold your breath
its honestly so sad that bhvr creates a great game but its filled with balancing and quality of life issues that they are very stubborn to fix bc its not making them money.
Billy was the only one of his kind for me. I don't like Oni because I don't like how the newest killer rigging feels (or looks from both survivor and killer sides), so my killers have been narrowed down to: Hag, Huntress, Trapper, Wraith, Bubba, and Myers (+Pig while I could still burn her shards occasionally. They almost made me buy her, but then they removed the shards and I wanted to keep the achievement for her traps being set 200(?) times without having bought her :D).
I would love to play killers like Nurse and Billy, who I'd poured a significant amount of bps into and played extensively alongside the other killers, but the devs decided to cut the life support on that enjoyment, and now they're both dead to me. Also, Billy sucks to play against now and still has the problems I had with him before. RIP.
yeah people m1lly a lot more often because their chainsaw overheats, and survivors don't really like going against m1llys. this means that the devs have managed to make the killer more unfun to play against when their intent was to please survivor mains.