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Billy by no means is a weak killer now. The issue is his how clunky and unsatisfying he is to play now.
Before you say anything, I'm not saying instasaw and crack billy should've stayed in the game. They were overpowered and unfun to go against.
Billy's addons were fun before but now instead of only number changing addons, they added weird effects that are, for the most part, pretty much useless. Only like 2-3 of his addons (Primer bulb, debatably Thompson's Mix, and especially Tuning Guide) needed to be nerfed/change. His only fun addons now are literally just engravings, but they are pretty much unusable now that overheat exists. Using engravings requires 99ing your saw constantly to get your curve just right, but doing that produces so much heat that forces you to m1.
By introducing the overheat, Billy has been made less fun to play as and even less fun to play against when BHVR's intent was to please those entitled survivors that complain about everything. Since Billy has the overheating mechanic, when you overheat or get close to overheating, you're going to have to resort to your m1 attack. Now, survivors are going to complain about the Billy m1ing them when they have a power that had incredible counterplay that was fun to outplay.
His new animations that were brought into the game in April 2020 are complete trash and super clunky. The chainsaw cooldown animation for missing or even hitting a survivor feel very off and makes you look at the floor, losing sight of a survivor you could be chasing. His revving animation, his chainsaw sprinting animation, and the limping also were changed for some odd reason and it just looks weird from a survivor's perspective. Also, his POV is screwed up.
All of these factors contribute to people not wanting to play Billy. Please devs, bring back everyone's favorite chainsaw brother. #JUSTICEFORBILLY
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@Kind_Lemon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1674039#Comment_1674039
Billy was the only one of his kind for me. I don't like Oni because I don't like how the newest killer rigging feels (or looks from both survivor and killer sides), so my killers have been narrowed down to: Hag, Huntress, Trapper, Wraith, Bubba, and Myers (+Pig while I could still burn her shards occasionally. They almost made me buy her, but then they removed the shards and I wanted to keep the achievement for her traps being set 200(?) times without having bought her :D).
I would love to play killers like Nurse and Billy, who I'd poured a significant amount of bps into and played extensively alongside the other killers, but the devs decided to cut the life support on that enjoyment, and now they're both dead to me. Also, Billy sucks to play against now and still has the problems I had with him before. RIP.
yeah people m1lly a lot more often because their chainsaw overheats, and survivors don't really like going against m1llys. this means that the devs have managed to make the killer more unfun to play against when their intent was to please survivor mains.
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@Endstille said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/197272/please-devs-fix-billy-bringbackbilly
Yeah i mostly agree with everything that was said, unfortunately you did not mention sounds and the sounds are the cherry on top of a poop cocktail. I can not stand his roar, it sounds awful.
also my main killer has already her little adjustments, devs don't care at all for killers and the bugs they create with reworks. see survivors are just skins and for killers it is just about the latest creation which lots of people play. so you play something that is old like billy? well play oni, anyway do not hold your breath, i am waiting for over a year for them to fix bugs of nurse. hf but do not hold your breath
its honestly so sad that bhvr creates a great game but its filled with balancing and quality of life issues that they are very stubborn to fix bc its not making them money.
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@EvilJoshy said:
dude, paragraphs. Please. It hurts my eyes looking at all that. I'm still waiting for them to fix all of Nurses bugs. GL with getting Billy fixed.
@HollowsGrief said:
Bruh have you ever heard of a thing called paragraphs?
fixed it sorry
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@Kind_Lemon said:
I agree. You failed to mention sounds, however, and they're what really gets on my nerves.
yeah his roar is awful and give survivors too much reaction time
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@MusicNerd_TC said:
How many threads will you make on the same topic?
as many as i need to :DDD
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@EntitySpawn said:
i mean billy hasnt changed much at all, the only change is you dont get add-ons to reduce your chainsaw charge speed and thats all people ever used. i play billy a fair bit and he really isnt bad at all, same place as always except his add-ons are more interesting. now during the ptb it was rough but the increase how long he can chainsaw/rev and how fast it regens so its perfectly fine even at rank 1. he always was a middle of the road killer and that hasnt changed, you just cant reply on insta saw to get downs all the time now.
did you actually read the whole thing? i legit said instasaw should be removed. next time, actually read.
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one that reverts billy to how he was 7 months ago
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@ClickyClicky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1669160#Comment_1669160
Nice. Make a false accusation with zero evidence.
anyways who gives a ######### if you dont like going against him. literally 99% of the community does. the 1% are probably grey ranks that run to a corner of the map when they hear a heartbeat and get instadowned (aka you)
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@ClickyClicky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1669147#Comment_1669147
And yet I’m the only person here not complaining about Spirit or PyramidHead.
thats bs but ok
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@ClickyClicky said:
I hated playing against Billy and I think he could be more oppressive than any of the other killers you mentioned. Often it only took one survivor mistake or one bad looper to doom the game against a Billy. Having unlimited sprint and instadowns does that.
what rank are you? because i can tell from your name that you would be somebody that also complains about literally everything killers have.
also just dont greed lol
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@TheClownIsKing said:
Nothing works against survivors during these time periods.
No matter which killer, no matter which strategy is employed, no matter how loops are run or mind-gamed, I’m just spinning my wheels in place.
Why is this game designed in a such a way whereby experienced, coordinated teams make this game 100% impossible as killer?!
Literally!!!
get good lol
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we should start a movement to bring back our old and better billy. who cares if the devs wont listen. the rest of the community will and join us in the fight to #BRINGBACKBILLY
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@ShrekTheThird69 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1666490#Comment_1666490
you can still look through walls and lockers with the new animation
i think they changed the animation to get rid of skybilly, which was fun as hell
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1666457#Comment_1666457
Their bottom line depends on making DBD fun for both sides and the game used to be extraordinarily more survivor sided than now. There are far too many people parroting this same unjustified claim because they don't agree with X or Y change the devs made.
you dont get it do you. i just want billy's animations back and for overheat to not affect double engravings as hard. its a simple change that would make the killer 10x more pleasing to play as. and yes the devs are suvivor mains. pop nerf but no ds nerf?
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1665540#Comment_1665540
If they care about the money they're making then they absolutely do care what you think.
they really do not care what killer mains think. after all, the devs are survivor mains
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@PigMainClaudette said:
Billy was played for the same reason Spirit is now. They're strong and extremely easy to learn.
The difference was that Billy had an isntant-down base kit that required no real work, compared to killers like Myers and Ghostface.
You have everything except stealth in your power, and it replaces his weapon for too many people.
People "quit" Billy because they couldn't cheese him out with insta-saw or Crack Billy any more. He's fine where he is now.
you are kinda right about that. a base kit billy is pretty much just loop until deadzoned and get a free instadown. but skillbilly (aka double engravings) is a much much much harder and more satisfying way to play billy. it takes years to master curve billy.
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@BlightBoi said:
If you think his nerf was unneeded and too much then you need to get better at him. Any good billy will never overheat.
like ive said multiple times, double engravings. read
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@azame said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1666294#Comment_1666294
You cant use double engravings effectively anymore due to the overheat. That's terrible. The overheat was never adjusted tot he engraving add ons.
once a double engravings main, always a double engravings main. its legit one of the only fun ways to play billy for me. gotta stay true to it
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@Saitamfed said:
My brother is main billy and he never overheats. Just because you need to modify a bit your playstyle doesn't mean it's bad. You can't go sprinting like a madman forever and ever without being punished in some way.
my dude, double engravings. no one ever overheats with base kit
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Before the Billy "rework", he was one of those popular killers that everyone loves going against and you know that when you get a Billy, you were going to have a good game. I used to go against good Billy's all the time and I always enjoyed it (except when they were using instasaw). Ever since the rework, I have not played against a single Billy that actually knew what they were doing. Like how bad of a dev team do you have to be to not give a ######### about the most annoying killers in the game (spirit, freddy, legion, etc.) but decide to nerf one of the most loved and fun to go against killers in this game. The thing is, Billy isn't even a bad killer now by any means, he just feels very off when you play him. From his janky animations that are complete garbage to him not having any fun addons anymore (besides a few like drift Billy and double engravings) to the overheat system that was not necessary because his base kit was fine.
First of all, the animations. The new ones are trash and faces you downwards while in the middle of it, so when you do hit a nice curve or flick, you cant even see it. Just bring back the old ones, they were so much better.
Secondly, his add-ons. Billy had some of the most fun add-ons in the game prior to the rework. Yes I know, there were some busted add-on combos like instasaw (double charge) and crack Billy (doom engravings + tuning guide), but apart from the charge time addons, the rest were pretty much fine. Now there are a ton of completely useless addons, such as both red addons. Any survivor with a brain will figure out that you have this and use their eyes to see you coming, rendering them both useless. The overheat addons, while nice, don't really help too often because you never overheat unless you're running engravings or something.
Lastly, the overheating mechanic. And to be totally honest, this was not the worst idea in the world. It punishes people that like to spam their chainsaw and miss every one of them. Although, as a double engravings player, with a very long charge time, you overheat in like 2 saws and its pretty annoying to use. So maybe increase the rate of dissipation while using engravings or something. Otherwise the overheat mechanic is fine as it is.
Please devs. Fix Billy. I'm in a discord with other Billy mains and like 80% of them quit playing him just because of this update. #BRINGBACKBILLY #JUSTICEFORBILLY
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@Joelwino said:
I don't care about the overheat, all I want is the old billy animations back. I hate being forced to look at the floor every ten seconds
tbh they probably wont bring them back bc bringing back the old animations would also bring back skybilly and the devs dont like fun. they just think its an exploit even tho not a single soul complained about a billy getting on top of shack, they laughed their asses off
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@Lx_malice said:
Yes please. This is what I've been saying. If we could get Billy's old animations back it would make me so much happier. The new ones just look terrible especially the wobbly camera after you finish a chainsaw.
too bad the devs dont care what we think and only abt the money they are making