Nerf the doctor, it's not even fun to play against

Just played a doctor with Distressing, Unerving Presence, Overcharge, and Pop Goes The Weasel. He used "Calm" and "Obedience" as add-ons.

You spend 90% of the game pulling yourself out of madness and trying to heal while skill checks are appearing randomly, shaking, and going backwards half the time.

On top of that the perks make the possibility of hitting a skill check extremely difficult.

No other killer causes so much difficulty throughout the match (which is based on skill checks!).

Add to that that he can now stop you from vaulting and see where you are half of the game.

It's unreasonable, skewed, and above all not fun. On top of that the sound effects are extremely annoying. Any child could 4k with the doctor now..

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  • Doc isn’t OP, he’s just a nuisance to play against. Devs made changes to him to make him better cos he was trash before.

  • That build is notorious for keeping the game hostage. Most Docs don't run it because it's such a dumb loadout so you'll rarely see it unless the killer had a bad day and wanted to make the survivors hate themselves. I'm guessing you're quite new to the game, which would explain why you struggle with the skill checks. His rework didn't make him that much stronger. He still sucks in chases and the only thing he has going for him is his ability to locate survivors easily because he still gets destroyed by survivors who are somewhat decent or on a large map. Another thing I should mention is that nobody's gonna blame you for suiciding on hook against that build on an indoor map.

  • Even I don't have much trouble against Doc. I think it's because I like to go it alone to do gens so nobody ruins my sneaking around.

  • @Kwikwitted said:

    Oh no, a killer made me have a tough time in a match mommy BHVR! Nerf them into the ground please.

    r/entitledsurvivormains.

    I recommend stoping your toxicity.


    As a Doctor Main with over 2800 hours in this game and R1 award.

    The Doctor is extremely powerful to the solo queue player and unexperienced premades.

    As a 50/50 player, I can say with 100% certianity, that although I'm happy with the buff to Doctor, it is MUCH too overwhelming how even the worst players who are playing doctor can easily 3/4k.

    It is unacceptable: As he was once a killer who entirely depended on the players skill, logical deduction and timing.

    He is now a brainless arena shocker that doesn't require much to any of his previous skill caps.


    BVHR. Please tone back some of his power and bring back the High Difficulty /High Reward that us Doctor players.

  • funnily enough, anything he does now he could do before aswell.

    it was just not as easy to do, due to him having to switch stances, though the results were the same.

    the only new thing he really has is the shock blast, which can be easily avoided by entering a locker when you hear him charging it up and you're in the terror radius.


    Doc is a solid killer now, but he is not stronger than a lot of the high rank killers. he just requires you to play a little differently than with other killers - similar to huntress.

  • then you are one of the main reasons why the rest of the team also dies and has no fun.

    congratulations, you just ruined the game for 4 others cause you disliked a certain piece of content.

    but of course, YOUR fun is MUCH more importaant than the fun of the other 4...


    sorry, but its because of people like you why i cant stand playing solo survivor anymore.

  • @InTheBushes321 said:

    Imagine complaining about a B tier killer.

    While it is funny that BHVR failed spectacularly at their stated goal of making him less frustrating, Doc needed a buff, because he was awful. Now he gets elevated from C tier to B tier and people immediately cry about it.

    This post shows what's wrong with the DbD survivor community, in a nutshell.

    This post shows what's wrong with dbd's WHOLE community.

    Super survivor sided post by OP followed by typical killer sided replies. It's rather tedious

  • @Mister_xD said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1139028#Comment_1139028

    then you are one of the main reasons why the rest of the team also dies and has no fun.

    congratulations, you just ruined the game for 4 others cause you disliked a certain piece of content.

    but of course, YOUR fun is MUCH more importaant than the fun of the other 4...

    sorry, but its because of people like you why i cant stand playing solo survivor anymore.

    I love the part of your fun is more important than the fun of 4 people :)

    Thats why devs allow killers to get bullied so 4 person can have fun but thats other issue. In my opinion doc is fun to play with and against.

  • Ok so I'm just going to toss this out here because CLEARLY due to some of the matches I've had with teammates going down very easily to Doctor because they play overly aggressive, that they did not seem to comprehend:

    -clears throat-

    You can go into a goddamned locker to dodge the AoE! There is a VERY obvious sound effect that plays when he is charging it and you SHOULD have plenty of time to get into a locker and avoid the burst.

    Also fun fact: he's been able to block you from vaulting for a WHILE now. They changed that a bit before Trapper and Hag got their first big buffs. This is not new. It just works better now.

    Nothing you have listed is new to Doctor. It's ALWAYS been this way. People have been countering it before his change and they will continue to do so. The only difference now is that you are not constantly passively going insane so you actually DO stand a far better chance now against that build.

    Be smart and use your lockers.

  • He doesnt need nerfed he needs tossed in a dumpster fire and forgotten right along with legion. They arent OP just annoying. Incredibly, monumentally annoying.

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1138885#Comment_1138885

    Making the game difficult (which is what killers are supposed to do by the way), doesn't make the game "less playable". What I'm saying is that you're sitting here, just complaining about him, rather than asking for advice and feedback like you should be doing. Contrary to what you are saying, Doc does not make skill checks impossible. He makes them harder. He in no way makes it impossible to ever hit the skill check. So yes, if you are having trouble hitting against his skill checks, then yes, it is an experience thing. And that's perfectly okay. Not liking going against it is okay too. Claiming it's impossible when it is possible isn't okay, though.

    With the rework now, there's a few things you can do now against new Doctor that you couldn't even do against old doctor:

    1. Ignore healing for generator progress. Risky of course, but sometimes that is what is needed to get that one generator completed.
    2. 99% snap out of it so you can do actions you want when you need to do them at a tap of a button, and the Doctor will not be able reset your madness progress or your snap out of it progress. This way when you begin repairing, you will only be in Madness 1, which makes the madness skill checks appear only 33% of the time and most of your afflictions will be gone. Much easier to manage.
    3. Use lockers to not get hit by his shock blast and repair in the middle of those cooldowns. Especially easy to tell if he has his shock blast up when his terror radius is huge with both distressing and a "Calm" add-on since it becomes quite large. Otherwise, begin counting down in your head when you hear him use it.

    I'd suggest you try playing a number of games as the doctor with the build you're having difficulty facing against and observe how other survivors play against you, so you can learn from them and get a few ideas on how to play against it. I assure you, it's not nearly as "impossible to play against" as you claim it is.

    THIS 100%. Best comment ever for DBD

  • It's called "Calm Spirit" use it.

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  • There are ways to avoid Shock Therapy, Static Blast can be countered by being outside of his TR or lockers. If you know you are gonna get shocked in a loop, don't stand by the pallet thinking you're good. Doctor is an average killer at best when you have the knowledge required to best him in trials.

  • @24Life said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1138994#Comment_1138994

    I'm guessing you play the doctor and that's why your upset. Hey bud, if that's the only way you can get cheap 4ks it's OK. Just own up to it.

    Doctor didnt really go up the tier list at all with his rework. His map got worse, he got new chase music, and static blast is cool I guess.

    Doctor is a low rank stomping machine. and your inability to cope with him really suggests your level of skill.

    As a killer main, I do not play doctor past rank 10, because survs will punish you too hard for it.

    So, in the words of entitled survivor mains such as yourself "git gud"

  • nice reason to nerf becaiuse not fun to play.if u not fun to plat doctor u can play trapper

  • As a good Doc I can confirm it's hard to play against him as a survivor. Especially running those kinds of perks. But there are good tricks to get around him. If you hear his TR then always assume his static blast is ready or soon to be unless you know for certain he just used it. Sneak into lockers or listen closely for the attack to happen. Rely on stealth more often than looping him and just over all be decent at skill checks and he won't be such a threat anymore.

  • @Zaitsev said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1139007#Comment_1139007

    Doctor didnt really go up the tier list at all with his rework. His map got worse, he got new chase music, and static blast is cool I guess.

    Doctor is a low rank stomping machine. and your inability to cope with him really suggests your level of skill.

    As a killer main, I do not play doctor past rank 10, because survs will punish you too hard for it.

    So, in the words of entitled survivor mains such as yourself "git gud"

    This tier list junk needs to stop when it needs to come about how good a killer is. It depends on the player entirely if they are good with said killer or not. I can mop red ranks with Doc anytime ;)

  • The Doctor is absolutely having his hand held with the way he was buffed. I play as and against him, so there's no bias here. Playing as him, it's incredibly convenient to use Static Blast and have the Survivors locations pronounced to me. Alternatively, playing against him, it's incredibly annoying because it takes, literally, no effort on the player's part. He takes no skill to use, all while being too powerful.

    The only thing I'd change about him is the Survivor's aura being shown to him while the Survivor is inflicted with Madness III. It being an add-on could be justified, but as a base, it's incredibly frustrating. Because, again, it's too easy for The Doctor and unfair for the Survivor. Instead, I think Madness III should just make the Survivor unable to repair Generators, sabotage Hooks or even search through Chests. The Doctor doesn't need to know where the Survivor is for that to be effective.

  • Best way to go against doctor is to just get good. Same way survivors say to deal with a gen rush people need to get good.

  • only issue I have is you cannot mend in tier 3

    they say it’s to add some interaction or whatev, but in practice it’s just makes for annoying and poor game design

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