Siren

At first I thought it was super broken, but after playing a good chunk of games on both sides:

Killer: I started off today around rank 13 getting paired with red ranks and was getting decimated. I'm awful at killer and generally only play for archive stuff. But I'm good enough to steamroll new survivors (sorry noobies) so I think that may be why my games started off the way they did. After a couple of losing games, I started getting paired against greens to browns, sometimes a purple thrown in, but all of the games felt very evenly skill matched and that I had a chance to either 4k or all of the survivors could escape if I messed up too many times.

Survivor: I'm a red rank survivor and started off by getting paired against actual rank 20s when the rest of my teammates were all red rank... Not sure why, as I consistently play survivor and stay up around red ranks the whole time. But either way, after a handful of games the matches started balancing out and again the matches started feeling much more balanced skill wise.

TLDR: I think this system might be working? But as someone else said, it's hard to give solid feedback if we don't know the hows or whys of the system.

in MMR FEEDBACK Comment by Siren March 18, 2021

First: I love DbD and I want to always support it, however. Please, please, please, please listen to the feedback you get from the PTB. The players that take the time time download the test build, sink time into it, and provide feedback from it are among your most dedicated players. There's no reason our feedback should be ignored until the update is released to live and then the public outrage causes you to have to save face. Why should we waste our time on your test build when you ignore our feedback anyway? All of this same feedback listed in this entire thread was given to you already back during the PTB.

UI: I don't mind it, but the survivor portraits are way off. I don't really like the fact that all of the elements have been spread all over the screen, but I'd get used to it. With the survivor portraits, I know that they aren't actually bigger than the old ones, but because they are spread so far apart in their vertical line and they're so far from the actual top/side of the screen, they feel like they take up such a huge chunk of the stream. Moving them closer together and more into the actual corner of the screen would make them much better. I find as a survivor that I don't look at the portraits that much, just a glance when someone gets hooked or to see who all is injured. I look a bit more now that there are hooked tally marks, but with them being so big and close to the center of the screen now, they're so obtrusive to the game.

The full color portraits are weird as well. If they were able to match the cosmetics being worn it would be a different story but I know that would be a huge undertaking. The colored portraits just don't match the "drawed" aesthetic of the rest of the UI. I do love the new injured status appearance though and I'm super happy that bit of feedback from the PTB was taken into account. I feel like if there was better communication with the community about why the portraits were changed, rather than the generic "this is for future things" excuse, it would be much better received.

Animations: I love most of the new animations. I like that the survivors stand up straight when still and are hunched over when walking rather than being hunched over all the time. It feels more realistic. I also really like the recovering and crawling animations, although I am a bit sad that I can't spin around in circles when downed anymore. The running while injured animation feels awful though. It reminds me of bugs scuttling around and not an injured person trying to move quickly.

Most importantly though: the hitboxes are so horribly broken. I know you know, but I'm going to repeat it. I was not one to complain about bad hits before, but with this update the hitboxes are so bad that I've been hit consistently in every game with about 2 or 3 survivor lengths between me and the killer. Every hit feels bad and they feel like they're coming from so far away. I just want to play and enjoy the new archive challenges and I just can't because there's no running from killers at the moment.

in Feedback for UI & Animation Comment by Siren February 10, 2021

@Waffleyumboy said:
Apparently ranking up is just going to be a devotion that affects your matchmaking. They will probably say devotion rewards are enough.

Ranking will have 0 effect on matchmaking after they push the change through, as they stated in the blog post, no matter how high you climb or how low your rank drops.

in Rank Changes Comment by Siren January 27, 2020

It's not toxic. But people don't do it very often in games so the killers never expect it, so it is extremely frustrating to them when multiple hooks are sabo-ed. I tried to only do 3 hooks per game, but that's just my personal preference.

in Is the sabo challenge unhealthy or toxic? Comment by Siren January 23, 2020

@illusion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1022822#Comment_1022822
Yes, you have to use your brain to play killer and make smart decisions. Sorry.
That sounds like an insult, otherwise why would you apologize to me?
Now, i know that most popular streamers, that play killer, have not claimed that the new Ruin is very powerful, in fact it is just the opposite. They generally feel that it is weak and should not be a hex perk. Of course the survivor main streamers are in favor of it, but those with any amount of objectivity can see that it is a poorly implemented change. And of course the devs are going to defend it, so their comments are not worth much. It was clear that was what you were going by when making your comments. You were just restating what they said, as if it was a valid point. It wasn't when they said it, and it isn't when you repeat it. The devs don't understand the problem, so neither do you.
You can claim to have talked to anyone you want, it doesn't mean anything. The fact that you claim that they all think it works well, just makes your claims even that much harder to believe.
Also, if you know how a game works in DbD, you'll know that survivors generally spawn together and generally do gens together. It is very rare that you would find each survivor individually on a gen.
They spawn together with offerings. They might do the first gen together, which will often get the gen completed before the killer even gets to that side of the map, which is certainly not a good thing for justifying the new Ruin. Even then they get scattered pretty quickly once the killer finds them. Besides, with out the old ruin slowing things down, and map pressure being a bigger issue, it makes more sense for survivors to be on different gens on opposite sides of the map. If you actually played killer, you would have noticed that. A single survivor can finish a gen on their own in a little over a minute. Even with the travel time between gens, they can be done very quickly by decent solo survivors. With coordinated swf groups it goes ridiculously fast.
You claim it is very powerful now. Prove it. You claim to have experienced it first hand, and that you know how to control the map to be in the right place. Show us how powerful it is, rather than constantly using survivor main talking points and making baseless claims. I'm not a killer main. I was a survivor main, now i play both. I'm open minded. Show me how powerful it it is against good survivors.

Sure, the killers I've spoken to in game must be delusional then and feeding me false info. We can run with that. I don't care if you believe me or not, cause I know what I'm saying is true. The fact that you're demanding such hard evidence with no consideration that it may be true, shows you probably won't change your mind no matter what I say or show.

Yes, how well Ruin works now is situational. It always has been, there's many factors to it. It's the same between the old and new. There's many situational factors to how all games will go.

You don't need an offering to spawn together. All 4 most likely won't spawn together, but more often than not I always spawn with at least 2 other survivors right around me. I don't know if you'd consider that something that should be changed or not to where the survivors always spawn separately from each other. Personally I think it's easier to know that I probably have to head to the gens farthest away from me first, as that's where they'll probably be, together.

SWF is a whole different ball game that the devs still need to look into for some kind of nerfing. A good SWF team will run around even the best killers in the game.

I have stated before, I don't have Ruin as a perk on killer so I have never used it. I've never cared what they did to Ruin, I learned how to play without it as a crutch to my game play, therefore I would have to record every single survivor game I play until I came across a killer using it and I honestly can't be bothered, because as stated before, some games the ruin is gone instantly and it's useless. Some games, the killer just doesn't apply a lot of gen pressure. Some games, you get completely slaughtered by the killer because they're good at gen pressure, with or without Ruin.

Besides, you don't need this "hard evidence" from me. You can go play your own games, you can go watch streams. I'm not bothering to provide you with info you can gather yourself. It'll probably be ignored anyway.

in Can We All Just Take a Moment? Comment by Siren January 23, 2020

@illusion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1022396#Comment_1022396
Yeah, I'm glad you read about it and listened to streamers, though that is irrelevant. I love how survivors keep referring to it working well with surveillance (I guess I know what you've been reading), while ignoring the fact that Ruin is a hex that can be removed very early, and surveillance on it's own is not that great.
There are 4 survivors who can all do gens separately very quickly, especially with toolboxes. There is no way to be in the right spots for 4 different people.
I love the gatekeeper reference. More talking points from the devs. Clearly you do more reading of the one side of the coin. That is not what concerned people, and it certainly doesn't "fix the map issues".
I know my limitations as survivor, and as killer, very well. My ego is not tied up in the game. Insulting how I play the game without having any idea how I actually play, is the sign of a weak argument.
Also, based on your previous posts you are claiming to have skills that you don't actually have, so quit acting like you are an expert, and somehow better than the rest of us. If you want to claim that the new Ruin is powerful, make a video of you playing killer going up against top rank survivors. Show us how you are always in the right place. Until then, it's just talk.

I've asked other killers who run both perks when I come up against them how it's working, and they have always said it works well. I take info from discussion threads in here from regular players, dev posts, survivor main streamers, killer main streamers, and info I gather with questions I ask in the end game chat. I generally take the info outside the forums more to heart, cause the forums are generally the people who only have negative things to say and are blind to any positives.

Also, if you know how a game works in DbD, you'll know that survivors generally spawn together and generally do gens together. It is very rare that you would find each survivor individually on a gen.

I was not insulting how you play the game, I was assuming you'd had no experience with the new ruin. But that's fine, make it personal.

I'm not sure when I claimed to have skills that I don't have...? I have said, I am a purple rank killer who doesn't use ruin. Not red rank, not rank 1. I don't really care to sweat my way into red ranks, they're irrelevant really. I have plenty of games where I fail miserably and all four survivors escape, but it doesn't bother me, cause it's just a game. I rather just have a fun time and try to make the game fun for the survivors as well, a concept that some people seem to have lost sight of, but you're right, insulting someones game play is a sign of a weak argument, so kudos there.

in Can We All Just Take a Moment? Comment by Siren January 23, 2020

@illusion said:
Calm down and learn how to apply gen pressure properly (yes I know, some maps are huge, but that's a map problem, not a perk problem.) Survivors have always brought tool boxes, you're just noticing it more now.
Everyone knows that it isn't a perk problem. Clearly you don't pay attention to the actual discussions surrounding the Ruin change. The fact that killers so often used Ruin was a symptom of the underlying problems. The problem with the change is twofold. One, is that nothing was done to change the underlying problems before nerfing the perk. In fact the underlying problems were not even acknowledged by the devs. The second part of the problem is that the change was just poorly thought out. It is not anywhere good enough to be a hex based perk yet remains reliant on a totem that often gets placed right out in the open.
Stop with the "You just have to apply gen pressure" nonsense. People know what they need to do. You can't apply pressure everywhere at the same time. On the large maps you can't even get across the map without one or two gens popping. Gens can be completed far too quickly. Many maps are horrible for killers to try and patrol gens. infinite god loops make it ridiculously easy to evade the killer and waste his/her time, while the gens are worked on by others. SWF teams can just tag in and out on gens so they never suffer any meaningful regression. Repairs are at least twice as fast as the regressions. No other regression perks can be used with the new Ruin.
No, the new Ruin is nowhere near "super powerful". It wouldn't be even if it wasn't totem reliant, but it is, which just makes it useless. The regression is too small compared to how fast they can be repaired.
Again, I have to ask, why is it that only killers have to improve their gameplay? The ruin change was put in place to make the game easier for survivors. Good survivors had no problem completing gens with ruin on them, and could still do them very quickly. If they found the totem along the way, they removed it, otherwise they just powered through. Even I could power through them, and I rarely make great skill checks.
No one minds them changing the perk so that it was less frustrating, if it had been done is a good way, and the underlying issues were addressed, but it wasn't and they weren't.

Trust me, I've paid too much attention. I've read everything. I've listened to the streamers talk about it. With all the info I've gathered, I agree with the side of the coin that it's just average players needing the crutch perk, who now can't stand on their own two feet cause they've either never learned or forgotten how to properly play without it.

Yes, maps are an issue. This has come up time and time again. We all know. There are ways to get around the map issue though, especially with the Gatekeeper emblem change, if you're worried about your emblems and points.

No, you can't apply pressure everywhere, it's about applying pressure at the right spots. Using things such as Surveillance (couples nice with the new Ruin), Discordance, etc. It's called map presence and monitoring. Yes, you have to use your brain to play killer and make smart decisions. Sorry.

Yes, the new Ruin is very strong, I have first hand experience, others have confirmed. Would assume you haven't used it properly yet or are among the masses who aren't even giving it a chance.

Did you miss my whole first half of my original post about how survivors also need to stop bitching and learn how to play well as well? Both sides need to learn how to actually play the game. I won't go over it all again, you can go back and look.

Min maxing perks is how we've arrived at this whole big debacle anyway. Survivors rush through gens, so killers play scummy to win. Killers play scummy, survivors rush gens or DC. Killers complain about survivor perks. Survivors complain about killer perks. It's literally the same old story, every single time.