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Excellent up for soloq on the other hand it up the teams with their discord cheat which gives them 76 advantages...
Teams should be deleted.
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Voice software = cheat software, cheater > they must be banned.
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Since the patch I'm bored as a killer, 4 kill easy vs soloq, the survivor soloq has become unplayable. I even find myself letting 1 to 2 survivors escape per game voluntarily so as not to disgust the survivors who play soloq.
You've created a perfect patch for dumb killers, easy tunneling...
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You cried to have a killer up and a nerf survivor, the game became killer noob 4kill, dead hard? easy to counter had to wait to use before hitting, ds? easy countered by playing no tunnel.
The real worries about this game are the teams and nothing else, now you pay the consequences of your noob whining with unplayable soloq > survivors stop the game (normal), waiting time much much longer for killers .
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He's trying to balance the game with soloq and teams on vocal, review last patch he wanted to nerf the teams, review the soloq become unplayable...
You have to add debuffs to people who play together, it's the only solution.
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The camp vs soloq, 4 kill free, 100% anti game.
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With this garbage patch this game has become a paradise for big dummies tunnel/camp (thanks for making the tunnel easier), before the patch it was the teams the problem (because of the vocal) and nothing else.
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@RichardCarter said:
And I bumped into the same killer twice.
Guys. Everyone saying we'll adjust or whatever isn't understanding that you can adjust to being demolished like this. I'm desperate for help
You can thank bhvr for having facilitated the tunnel, ds was easily counterable > by practicing the no tunnel you just had to know how to play, except that 99% of killers do not know how to play and we never learned to play well, they are preferred to cry forum than learn to play.
And bhvr listens to this kind of player (noob) to balance their games?
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@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3088297#Comment_3088297
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/336929/killer-queue-is-eternal
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3088288#Comment_3088288
- It's not that bad right now. My killer queues were about 2 minutes during the anniversary, and are maybe 2.5 minutes now. My survivor queues have been fast for a while now.
- Nobody likes being nerfed, even when that nerf was badly needed. It's going to take a while to adjust.
- Once they are sorted out, the incentives will help queue times immensely.
- Yes, I'd anticipate some people jumping over to killer now that things are a bit different. That's not a bad thing.
For you it was necessary to up the god killers?
This patch is just a scandal, the death of soloq, be prepared killers for your queues to increase in the coming weeks.
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With this patch, he killed the soloq, too many up killers (he even up god tier killers, while he deserves a big nerf) and too many survivor nerf.
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They wanted to nerf the teams and up all the killers including the god tier killers, balance sheet the soloQ became unplayable.
Congratulations BHVR.
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@InvadeGames said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3076531#Comment_3076531
you dont need communication like discord to do so. i dont play swf. If I am far from the person getting hooked, i know someone else is closer to them and the responsibility lies with them to attempt the unhook. if i am going for the unhook and the killer is by the hook and my goal is not to hook trade i can either bait into a chase and if sucessful leave the hook and allow someone else to get a safe unhook OR, realise hes going to stay by the hook and go do a gen.
Its not hard.
if your team mates cant understand basic gameplay and counterplay in a situation where the simple counterplay can be extremely punishing to the killer, thats the fault of the survivor not the killer.
Very often a survivor tries to dehook except that he falls, you manage to do 5 generators at 2? No and the worst the survivor camp derank > double punishment for him, is it normal that the survivor has double punishment because of a big noob killer? answer no.
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@InvadeGames said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3075403#Comment_3075403
killer camps someone on hook. takes 2 mins to bleed out from stage 1. 3 survivors get on 3 gens. 3 gens get done before that guy dies. you have just hurt the killer for doing so.
when a killer is camping and survivors keep trying to save, you are rewarding the killer for doing so. there are perks that make it easy to tell from a distance if a killer is camping.
Dont reward an easily counterable playstyle if you dislike it.
the games I get where there is an actual camper, if the team keeps trying to save, we lose, if they do gens we win. Its literally that simple.
and perhaps you really are encountering all this camping, but i play plenty of survivors and actual campers or actual tunnelers are MAYBE 10% of games.
and I know for a fact people call camping or tunneling rather frequently on situations that are not either.
In pu = no discord, how can you tell others that the killer camp?
Especially since camp killers very often use the undetectable perk if motionless, if BHVR wanted to stop the camp he would have already removed the perk, is that the case? no so he encourages the ultra toxic behavior (harassment) of the camp.
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Many mediocre killers are happy with this patch, before vs du pu they were humiliated except for a good killer who had him 4kill easy vs pu.
Take advantage because it will not remain, it is necessary that the killers will be nerfed because survivor in pu has become unplayable.
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They want to nerf the teams except that the game has become an ordeal in pu (unplayable limit), with this patch BHVR shot himself in the foot on purpose.
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@drsoontm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3073825#Comment_3073825
I'm not certain you grasp the role of the killer.
The one task of the killer is to kill survivors.
If he accomplished his goal, he is fine.
Sometimes camping is the right move, sometimes tunnelling is.
Something can be said of slugging everyone too. (Usually a self inflicted wound from a team that let no other option to the killer.)
It's not for you to judge how the opposing team is allowed to win against you.
When you play killer, you are free to lose however you see fit.
The killer camps? Do generators and leave. It's the answer to most things the killer do really.
Side note: when you use some derogatory term for killers who get full marks and tell they don't know how to play, it's doesn't look the way you think it does.
Except that harassment is legally prohibited or even condemned (you have a lot of suicide each year because of bullying), the camp/tunnel is harassment whether you agree or not it's the truth, a player on an mmo has experienced a camping for x days, he sent several requests > company did nothing against the players camp, company heavily punished when the player threatened to take company to court.
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@Jinxed said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3073825#Comment_3073825
I don't think banning players for camping and tunneling is the solution, sometimes it is necessary. The problem is that the game itself is built around these strategies, it shouldn't be so easy to get away with and leaving the hook should be rewarded more than it is.
Except that their numbers in % increase, I meet more and more camps/tunnels, you have to do something because doing nothing > players will stop (survivor).
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Regarding tunneling and camping, i propose a player ban, camping and tunneling is harassing behavior, since when do we let stalkers go unpunished?
Other games severely punish tunnel/camp because it's ultra toxic behavior and the devs say camp/tunnel is indeed a form of harassment. Here, nothing, no sanction, the big stalker dummies are rewarded with 4 kills even though they don't even know how to play.
After another problem you have fairplay killers who camp a cheater (deserved camp for the cheater) this killer must not be sanctioned if he has camped a cheater.
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The problem he tries to balance with the teams except that nerf the survivors to nerf the teams > big nerf pu, at the moment the pu is suffering and many will stop the game knowing that you have more pu players than team players.
With the teams this game is impossible to balance so they have to be cleared once and for all, do the survivors in play have communication systems between them? no, therefore reason for + to clear the teams which use a vocal (vocal = big cheat, cheat = bannishement).
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Since the patch the generators are repaired well + quickly, I don't know if it's a bug or not because if no bug the game has become even + gen rush moron.
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You have a lot of cheater on this game, some with very flashy cheats and others with discreet cheat detect aura killer or survivor/palette/totem and the biggest cheat allowed "discord" for teams.
Speaking of teams, impossible to balance this game because if we nerf the god tier killers > the killer can do nothing vs team and the god tier killers (well done) destroy the pu easy mod. Yes long live zero balance because of the teams, this game at the level of balancing is a big trash (thank you teams).
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Yes the generators repair themselves stupidly too fast even with anti gen rush perks.
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They are also underestimating the huge player loss due to camping/tunnel/team.
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@Entitled_survivor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2999631#Comment_2999631
You need to look up the definition of entitled dude ,i'm sorry to burst your bubble but no one wants to w8 a full sacrifice because killer decided to face camp them ,,you on the other hand thinking that they have to suffer that so you can finish gens is entitled,,,games are supposed to be fun and tbh i don't even think survivors doin gens while a person is gettin facecamped are having any fun,you just assume people will play the way you want them to play,,if you got that much of a problem with people giving up on hook when facecamped find a few people to swf
Exactly the survivor camp, he is absolutely not having fun, some will say camping = free win yes in team free win thanks to the vocal cheat because you can say say go gen rush except that in pu = no vocal so we are playing at game as it was designed "we're going to dehook".
The killer who camps is just a big loser, he is bad at hunting so when he arrives to catch a survivor he camps to make 4 easy kills without knowing how to play, do you find it normal that a big loser kills 4 good players? me no.
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@DrDeepwound said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2998331#Comment_2998331
not gonna lie, sometimes I fake camp survs like you who ragequit on hook, if I see them atteming to suicide....Ill double back, raise chainsaw to their face as they struggle to encourage hook suicide, it works.... thanks for the easy match.
Strongly severe sanctions on camping because you have more people who have stopped the game definitively than you have of camp killer (letting this practice of camping is not financially profitable).
Other information you win + points on 3 hooks on the same survivor than 1 single hook + death but hey you're too stupid to understand the mechanics of the game since you don't know how to play the game (full camp mode like a big noob).
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Still happy that we can commit suicide, nobody likes to play with a big draw of a killer who camp. But bhvr doesn't care about its players because it allows this ultra toxic style of play. You just have the big noob killer who has fun taking the game hostage while the 4 survivors who suffer without having fun (result a lot stop the game definitively because of the camp).
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@Zozzy said:
Seriously, Why is this mechanic still in the game? A survivor should not have the option to struggle and then miss two skill checks to leave asap. It ruins the game for the other survivors because they are forced to face the basement camping bubba and waste time or the survivor will just leave. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
If the survivor wants out then they can take a nifty 5 minute penalty or sit on that hook for the full duration. It's mind boggling that this has not been removed since the solution is to smash gens and out, but you can't because of this!!
Still happy that we can commit suicide, nobody likes to play with a big draw of a killer who camp. But bhvr doesn't care about its players because it allows this ultra toxic style of play. You just have the big bad killer who has fun taking the game hostage while the 4 survivors who suffer without having fun (result a lot stop the game definitively because of the camp).
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@bm33 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2997359#Comment_2997359
I'm guessing you obviously don't know what a sore winner/loser is. It is someone that no matter if they win or lose they do not handle it well - in your case it's wanting a reason to report someone in hopes they'll be banned because they made a good play at some point in the match that you think can only be cheating and not just a good play. You use "private profile" as your "proof" since you have no actual proof that it was cheating and because it was most likely just a good play.
There are ways without being a streamer to record your matches. A simple Google search will show you how. Since you are on PC it is much easier to record and share than it is for those on console. If you run into as many cheaters as you claim then you should start recording your matches for proof. If you can't actually prove they are cheating then you are most likely making false reports and like I said before - trying to get innocent people banned with false reports is just as bad as an actual cheater ruining players games.
You're just making up excuses to not prove someone is actually cheating, just your "they did an amazing play and have a private profile" which is not proof at all that they are a cheater. You want to be justified and you made this post thinking people would agree and give you a pat on the back but instead you have 3 pages of people repeatedly telling you what you are doing is wrong.
The big problem you have is using discrete cheats like light speed hack, light speed repair hack, 100% excellent Skill Checks
Their cheat software just uses existing in-game perks except that it's permanently active throughout the game.
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bhvr is responsible for the toxic community, especially when he claims to see even encourages camping, camping ultra toxic anti game behavior that holds the game hostage.
Balance sheet of the survivors either leave the game definitively or cheat because we are tired of being camp.
When we allow toxic behavior, you have a game with a toxic community.
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@Bardon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2994219#Comment_2994219
The devs have made it perfectly clear on many occasions that camping (though not as much facecamping) and tunnelling are perfectly legitimate tactics.
They should find out why players quit the game, I think they will soon change their minds.
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@Xernoton said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2994179#Comment_2994179
Devs say camping is a viable strategy though... Also taking the party hostage? I disagree. It's boring to be camped but it will end after a maximum of 2 minutes. Killers that camp will never reach Red Ranks (I assume you mean grades.)? Maybe watch 1 or 2 streams by killer mains in supposedly high MMR. If they want to win, they will camp, slug and tunnel relentlessly. Somehow these people still manage to get to Iri 1 every month. Last but not least DBD is NOT a sport. It's not hockey, it's not football, it's not baseball, it is a game. That is a difference.
Camping, tunnel, team are the main causes of players stopping.
You say that the devs encourage players to go see competitor games?
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@Xernoton said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2994154#Comment_2994154
So overall your suggestion is to ban people for playing in a way that you don't like? Imagine if the survivors got banned for doing the gens too fast or finishing it in the killer's face because they don't like it. It's basically the same. One side is unhappy with how the other side played.
That might kill the game entirely as it would punish survivors just as much as killers. Killers getting banned (even temporary) = less people playing killer = longer queue times for survivors = less people playing survivor because waiting 30+ minutes for a match is boring.
Do you think the developers had planned the camping when creating his game? answer no, a killer who camp will never red rank.
Camping is anti game, go do anti game in a sport, you will be banned from the sport very quickly, camping = taking the party hostage forbidden thing.
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@Xernoton said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2993975#Comment_2993975
I see where you're coming from. But my point is: More incentives to actually leave the hook as a killer = less facecamping. At least in theory. It's always a killer's obejctive to kill survivors. The issue is that facecamping is a better and easier to execute strategy than playing the game normally in many cases.
Except that a draw will remain a draw, no matter what bhvr will put in place (penalty), a draw will always camp. Only effective solution temporary ban after x temporary ban you will see, they will finally learn to play.
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@DrDeepwound said:
survivor bodyblocks a hook prompt = totally ok
killer blocks unhook prompt, survs say: thats not fair = cheating
both sides can block the main objective, bodyblocking hook prompts is the same thing as camping.
del wit it
The bodyblock hook is not fair play or even anti game, I never do a bodyblock hook.
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@GillyBeannn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2992051#Comment_2992051
On another subject then, why is it Artist cannot place a crow right next to a hooked survivor? She has to be 10 meters away to place a crow away from the hooked survivor. Hag can place a trap right next to a hooked survivor, and Pyramid Head can use M2 when a survivor unhooks, so Why can't Artist do the same thing?
I am aware Trapper used to be able to put traps under a hooked survivor and that got removed because it was unfair for the hooked survivor, but is Bubbas insta-down chainsaw that also ignores BT any different from how old Trapper traps worked?
camping is unfair to the hooked survivor and also to the other 3 survivors, all because of what? a big noob killer who does not know how to play, he has a toxic anti-gambling behavior so normal that he is sanctioned.
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@DuoVandal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2992983#Comment_2992983
That's weird, last I checked the majority of people who quit playing were Killers hence why Survivor queue times are so long.
A lot of killer stop because of the teams on vocal.
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@pseudechis said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2992983#Comment_2992983
so your idea is to ban every player that camps and tunnels which is basically every killer player in the game at some point.
It’s also the go to excuse of every salty survivor, so every killer who ever upset a survivor regardless of play will also get banned.
Here I was thinking you hadn’t thought this through.
Does banning every killer player mean survivors win by default without having to even play? 🤔
if it takes temporary bans for the noob to finally learn to play, I am for this sanction.
How many players definitely stop the game because of camp killers? a lot.
You even have some who disconnect when they are a killer camp opposite, normal that they are the ones who have the temporary disconnection ban? The answer is no.
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solution x report anti game > temporary ban
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Stop discuss, camping or tunnel > anti game, anti game is sanctioned so banish.
Because of the camp killers, a lot of people stop playing, it's a problem that needs to be stopped.
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@Deathstroke said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2992051#Comment_2992051
I think grapping healthy survivor from hook doing the save needs to go. Even lot of facecamping bubba's go for that grap. Maybe that would help bit for camping problem and make chasing survivors more worth it.
a camp killer, he doesn't know how to play, you kite it easy mod 5 minutes, he doesn't want to learn to play, since he sucks, he opts for the easy way. We need sanctions against them (how many players stop the game because of bad camping?)
anti-gambling behavior must be punished !
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camping + tunnel, behavior that must be severely punished
I have the solution a killer x report anti game, temporary banishment from the game (increasing) like the anti disconnection system
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The survivors are toxic between the cheaters (speedhack, repair generator hack), the bodyblock, the insults chat end of the game, the teams under voice (voice big cheat on this game, example the status blindness is useless on a team because of the vocal, assessment a killer who plays with the status blindly he loses full perk + accessory because of a ######### vocal, the other survivors are aware of where the killer is in real time thanks to the vocal, the survivors have smartphones on this game in game? answer no)
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the vocal is the biggest cheat allowed on this game, it is time for the killer to know if he has a team in front or not before accepting the game
especially since the teams don't mind bodyblocking, they are the advantage of vocals but no, they are also an ultra toxic behavior
every month killers stop the game because of the teams, it's time for bhvr to take an interest in the teams to do something
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@EvilJoshy said:
Over the weekend i tried playing killer again. Been on a long break. Came back for like a week when pinhead released. I played like 10 games sat afternoon. Id say i only won 1 match. It was a 3k as nurse and i needed noed because gens were flying. The other 9 matches were a mix of trapper, nurse, pinhead and pyramid head. They were all 0-1k and barely any hooks. It could be that i am out of practice due my long break but i never felt so frustrated with the game than i did that sat. After one too many pallet stuns, no hooks by 3 gens on rpd i just dced. Anyone who has seen me comment on dcing knows im against it. But that map was the final straw. I still dont justify me dcing but if someone who hates dcers decides to dc, something is wrong.
Mmr did jack ######### for me but it could have been flooded with survivors looking for matches. I dont even think i faced a 4 man swf cause people loaded in at different times. Maybe a 2 or 3 man here and there.
Pressure was non existent thanks to coh. Anytime i stopped chasing someone they were healed and back on a gen. No matter how many times i smashed a boon totem.
Besides nurse, every other killer i used felt like we were running from pallet to pallet. No matter how many i break there is always another.
I dont accuse someone of hacking lightly but even with my head phones, i couldnt hear grunts of pain. Despite no IW to hide it.
I was so frustrated that i uninstalled. After like 5 years ive never uninstalled before. I just played something else. Im normally a level headed individual when i play a game but if this made me rage quit. The game is in a terrible state. I cant imagine how bad the game is for new killers.
You also have the teams on discord which is a cancer on this game, the famous discord much too powerful on this game, so powerful that I consider it a cheat
You have more and more teams on this game, because of them you struggle to up your killer rank
If bhvr does nothing against the teams, many killers will stop the game
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the game is too advantageous survivor perk + map, not to mention the teams on discord (discord = cheat) which makes killer perks unusable like Hex: The Third Seal
How they can leave this discord cheat a disgrace
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@Crowman said:
Because there really isn't any way to realistically ban people for talking to their friends while playing.
They could meet up in person, call each other over the phone, or use things like discord through the web browser and not an app.
And at the end of the day, it's not really worth banning people for the simple act of talking with their friends, because it'll kill the playerbase faster.
I know but they kill the game, essence of the game is that the killer surprises his prey (survivor) except that the teams under discord kills this aspect of the game
discord is so powerful that I consider it a cheat and cheaters have to camp. I'm thinking if we have to camp the teams or not