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II will say that it's terrible when developers see a problem in a different way.....So, the problem with the party was that the survivors literally had a wallhack for the entire game. But, the survivors who didn't have a party started complaining. Now, as you like, you do everything for the benefit of the survivors and instead of fighting the party, you give this ability to everyone. It's very bad and I don't understand what will happened with the game
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@HexSlugged said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107382#Comment_4107382
they would have to remove his stealth aspect to make him 4.6.
but as long as stelth is part of his kit his speed will presumably (idk if it would be too oppressive at 4.6 but im certain thats the design reason) be 4.4 not 4.6
What's wrong with it being 4.6? Does he have such a strong ability? Once every 12 seconds, which is better not to use, or strong stealth???? If I play from stealth and not from chases, then the generators will start at the speed of light. What's going to bother you with it at 4.6? wWhat's wrong with it that it can't be 4,6? Is he too strstrongstrstrongongong with an ability of 3 seconds? Or maybe stealth is such a good mechanic
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@HexSlugged said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107365#Comment_4107365
i mean all 4.4 killers are 4.4 when not using their ability. not sure what your trying to say.
wraith is built to be able to patroll the whole map and all generators pretty easy. thats part of how to play wraith. chucky isnt designed that way. you arent supposed to be able to control the map the same way or keep on top of all generators. i think your too focused on trying to use him in a way hes not meant to be used.
Look, you start a match and a chase with a survivor begins; Chucky almost catches them with an ability, but the survivor just ducks into a structure where Chucky can't land a hit. Now Chucky is a 4.4 m/s "potato" stuck vaulting windows after the survivor for a minute or two—great, right? And generator control is a crucial part of the game. I need to have *some* way to move quickly or make plays across the map to win. Otherwise, the usual scenario plays out: one survivor loops me for a minute, three gens get done, and I’m left having to start the whole process over again.
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@HexSlugged said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107365#Comment_4107365
i mean all 4.4 killers are 4.4 when not using their ability. not sure what your trying to say.
wraith is built to be able to patroll the whole map and all generators pretty easy. thats part of how to play wraith. chucky isnt designed that way. you arent supposed to be able to control the map the same way or keep on top of all generators. i think your too focused on trying to use him in a way hes not meant to be used.
I'm mean that one survivor perk=killer ability. He should be 4,6 because it's one way for have good gameplay. Chucky can't do fast chase and can't control the map. There are one meme that his ability can be targeted by one window and de-facto useless. So, u talked that 5% it's small. 4.0 and 4,4 there are 5% dThe differencedifference. He is very weakweak. I dondon't need ever generator but I need speed for move in map , isn't it?
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@HexSlugged said:
I have not bought chucky, so i do not have personal experience with him but i have played almost every killer in the roster minus like 5 as well as all the other 4.4 and remamber that 4.4 and 4.6 is literally a 5% difference. if your 4.6 your only saving a couple seconds on a cross map transit as opposed to 4.4.
so if you have no map control i doubt its due to the character per se and more on how your playing the map/character.
you never need to control an entire map anyways and with slower killers or non mob, again your not supposed to try and control the whole map because thats now how the killer is meant to play.
wraith is meant to be able to control the whole map. wesker, springtrap ect.
trapper, clown, chuckie ect are not meant for that, they are a different style of killer (granted in my example clown can pmap control well with his haste bottles and good map
TThe fact is that Yi's ability is weak and he doesn't The fact is that Yi's ability is weak and he cannot move through the generators. In fact, 4.4 without the ability
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@HexSlugged said:
most killers cant control the whole map nor are slower or stealth killers supposed to be able to do that, that for the mobility characters. they are not all supposed to be everywhere at once. in part, thats why chuckies footsteps exist in the first place
But this is reason why they dont 4,4, because they cant control the map. What about chucky? And somewho talks that he good in loops, but his ability can be targetted by one jump to window or pallet (coulown 12 seconds) and has speed just 200% for 2,5 seconds (Survivors perks 150% for 3 seconds) There are 4,4 killer without normal ability.
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@HexSlugged said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107324#Comment_4107324
my issue with the skill talking point isnt really about chucky, its more broad. it sounds to me like the change was well deserved but i dont think i would make the argument about skill expression because if we justify what is or isnt allowed due to skill expression then we cant turn a blind eye to what doesnt cause skill which is most of the game.
or i can beat a surv at a loop but if im watching them throught eh wall to win the mindgame and get the down, it kind of takes away the skill aspect of achieving the down because both i and or the surv used game cheats or perks to escape or win the situation.
there are a few aspects of the game that skill expression does come out in some minor layers like looping but every layer is diluted and interferes with whatever skill is expressed and it can be impressive but at the end of the day all of us are playing with game legal cheats to make everything we do require less kill to accomplish, not more
My pretnsion about chucky its just that he cant controll map when he is 4,4.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107326#Comment_4107326
Mate, then reason that he is 4,4 is because he is smaller and can run Loops tighter than other Killers. This was explained to you multiple times. Accept it. It does not make sense that you ignore it all the time.
so, why The Dark Lord"s wolf is 4,6? And Chucly doesnt become faster if he smaller. If i play against bots, yes they lose, but normal player just abuse pallete and window. So, if he short he should be 4,4? I dont know how he can controll the map, because his ability to do it was deleted.
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I dont like to return it. But it was only one type of moving for this killer. He was 4,4 because he could fast go to pallet or window. They could do it like mastermind dash but they just deleted. Now he is 4,4 without any type of moving. @Aven_Fallen
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@Arcturus said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107292#Comment_4107292
You have no way of knowing what MMR you are in, BHVR has provided zero way to tell. So you might think you're in high MMR when you're really not, and I think this is definitely the case if you think Ghost Face is better than Chucky or even good. How many hours do you have? Ghost Face has zero chase power, zero mobility, zero map presence, and zero info. His best chance is taking survivors by surprise, but in higher MMR it's way harder to be able to not only stalk a survivor without them knowing but even more so actually get close enough to down them.
Killers can also be at a decent power level without being 4.6. Huntress, Deathslinger, to some extent Jason and Springtrap are all 4.4m/s. Heck, Blight is 4.4 and Nurse is 3.85, and they're the two strongest killers in the game. Funnily enough, you're using the fact that Blight used to be 4.6 as an argument for Chucky being 4.6, but Blight got nerfed to 4.4 because he was too strong. And using Blight as a benchmark is flawed from the start, as not only does the community agree he is an S tier killer, the devs have also stated that at some point there will be a phase 2 to his nerfs.
In addition, yes, tierlists are people's opinions. However, when you look at people's tierlists it's not like some people think he's A tier and some people say he's F tier. He's very consistently ranked middle of the pack by the majority of the community, and although that's people's "opinion," when veterans of the game all somewhat agree on how strong a killer is it has some weight to it. You might think that Ghost Face is better than Chucky, but it seems pretty much the entire community disagrees, with Ghost Face always being leagues lower on the tier list.
If you're comparing how they made Chucky's scamper only work in Slice N Dice to entirely removing Springtrap's doors,
- They did not remove scamper, just put an actual condition on it rather than having it be available at all times with zero effort
- These powers are not even remotely the same, the only way you can compare them is if Springtrap's doors instantly guaranteed him a hit, which it doesn't because it is just a map mobility ability
- If you played any survivor around when Chucky released, you would not be protesting the change to his scamper. It instantly made him one of the strongest killers in the game, but required zero thought or skill and provided zero counterplay
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107298#Comment_4107298
I have in one of your previous posts, as have many, many other people.
- He is small and hard to see around loops, which gives him an inherent advantage in chases that other killers don't have
- His collision box is skinnier than other killers, allowing him to loop tighter. So although crossing the map he is 4.4 through and through, in loops he feels closer to 4.6 than you'd think.
These reasons and probably others have been suggested to you many times before, but you ignore them and then you will ask the same question to the same people (like you are now) or to every new person even though you've gotten the answer.
Small size is far from an advantage. On an open map, you only need to keep an eye on the Killer occasionally. The Huntress has that speed because she has a ranged attack, and Springtrap has it because he can pass through doors—but Chucky has it just because of his short stature? Sure, and Ghost Face can play around his tactics while also being short. The decent Survivors I play against just abuse window loops during chases—that’s it. (To be fair, Survivors do this against any 4.4 m/s Killer, but others can land a hit with their ability; Chucky can't.) Tell me, how am I supposed to control the map when the Killer moves at 4.4 m/s? Am I supposed to scare them with my short height? And I’ll say it again: short stature and the lack of a red stain are NOT valid arguments! I can equip the perk that removes the red glow on any killer—but then how am I actually supposed to control the generators?
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@JPLongstreet said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107298#Comment_4107298
I believe they stated years back when Chucky was first introduced that his base speed is due to his short statute and slightly better turning when looping.
when he became he had unque ability for go untill pallet or window. But now it deleted, what we have instead? 4,4 killer
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@Arcturus said:
Look man, I think this might be the 6th post I've seen of you echoing the same thing, and a lot of the time there are plenty of people trying to be helpful or giving you very valid points, sometimes even that the developers said. If you look up almost any 10000 hour content creator's killer tier list, he is never even close to as low as Trapper. Chucky already does really well in low MMR lobbies because new survivors find it hard not being able to see him over loops, so seeing that even the extremely skilled players in the community think he's still pretty decent means something. Like @Rokku_Rorru suggested, there are extremely skilled Chucky players that can get a lot done, and if you're passionate about Chucky, you should be glad that so much is possible on him compared to someone who is a modern Skull Merchant main.
If nothing convinces you that at least Chucky isn't that bad (not even if he needs buffs or not), then I think you probably just made up your mind with no flexibility to change it and you've built up a brick wall. I'm a Springtrap main, who usually ends up in a similar spot to Chucky on tier lists. Do I think he could use buffs? He could be buffed a bit, I wouldn't complain. Am I happy with where he is, and at the very least that he isn't as weak as Skull Merchant, Trapper or Ghost Face? Yes I am. If you find yourself struggling with these low tier killers and find yourself feeling extremely weak on Chucky, I'm not sure but maybe you are on the newer side. In which case I think your opinions will shift a lot as you play, and look up guides and watch content.
tell me just one reason why chucky is 4,4
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@Arcturus said:
Look man, I think this might be the 6th post I've seen of you echoing the same thing, and a lot of the time there are plenty of people trying to be helpful or giving you very valid points, sometimes even that the developers said. If you look up almost any 10000 hour content creator's killer tier list, he is never even close to as low as Trapper. Chucky already does really well in low MMR lobbies because new survivors find it hard not being able to see him over loops, so seeing that even the extremely skilled players in the community think he's still pretty decent means something. Like @Rokku_Rorru suggested, there are extremely skilled Chucky players that can get a lot done, and if you're passionate about Chucky, you should be glad that so much is possible on him compared to someone who is a modern Skull Merchant main.
If nothing convinces you that at least Chucky isn't that bad (not even if he needs buffs or not), then I think you probably just made up your mind with no flexibility to change it and you've built up a brick wall. I'm a Springtrap main, who usually ends up in a similar spot to Chucky on tier lists. Do I think he could use buffs? He could be buffed a bit, I wouldn't complain. Am I happy with where he is, and at the very least that he isn't as weak as Skull Merchant, Trapper or Ghost Face? Yes I am. If you find yourself struggling with these low tier killers and find yourself feeling extremely weak on Chucky, I'm not sure but maybe you are on the newer side. In which case I think your opinions will shift a lot as you play, and look up guides and watch content.
i dont play on Low mmr against noobs. Scamper is useless, because it can be targetted by just one turn. About your mention ghost face, yes he is better because his ability doesnt useless and he is 4,6. Tierlists are people's mention. So, if your main is spingtrap, would you like to delete his teleport doors? Guy, just campere Chucky and Blight. Couldown of ability is roughly the same, but at the same time, the blight was at 4.6 for the most part.
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Or i should like idiot loose ability (it supposed for chaise) for go to 2 window and get couldown on 12 seconds? 12 seconds its survivor perks for 50% speed couldown with Vigil.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107233#Comment_4107233
You might actually get more information instead of just saying that Survivors are crying. Scamper was a really unbalanced and unhealthy part of Chuckys kit, since you just follow the Survivor until they have to drop a Pallet and then you scamper right under it for a free hit. 0 Skill involved and 0 Skill expression from either side.
tell me how chucky now should controll the big map without some mobility
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107251#Comment_4107251
Do you understand what a Hitbox is? The Hitbox is the body of the Killer. Chuckys Hitbox is not as big as the Hitbox of any other Killer, so he can run Loops tighter, since he can hug the walls better.
hihg mmr survivor can sight of him in all situation and hide ho mode doesnt help because loopers just dont go to closed loop
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107251#Comment_4107251
Do you understand what a Hitbox is? The Hitbox is the body of the Killer. Chuckys Hitbox is not as big as the Hitbox of any other Killer, so he can run Loops tighter, since he can hug the walls better.
You might think so because of his small feet, but no.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107251#Comment_4107251
Do you understand what a Hitbox is? The Hitbox is the body of the Killer. Chuckys Hitbox is not as big as the Hitbox of any other Killer, so he can run Loops tighter, since he can hug the walls better.
it doesnt job like you think. His speed near the wall it 4,4 + standard buff for killer, nothing special.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107231#Comment_4107231
Correct, Chucky has a smaller Hitbox compared to other Killers and is therefore 4,4 m/s. He simply can run Loops tighter.
just low MMR can LLose sight of himhim
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They could change it, but they just deleted . I can just delete Sprintrap doors ? And spritrap become also 4,4 idiot
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107231#Comment_4107231
Correct, Chucky has a smaller Hitbox compared to other Killers and is therefore 4,4 m/s. He simply can run Loops tighter.
So, sodako also should have 4,4 speed? And maers, and pig, and eveever killer who use perk for delete radius of terror? Or what?
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107227#Comment_4107227
If I recall the devs say it's because of how small he is, plus the scamper/slice and dice mobility. I'm not telling you, you are wrong and they don't need help, I was just trying to help you out.
SI'm sorry if I'm rude, but in this game it's always the case that a maniac is simply killed because of the whining of the survivors, and then they're surprised that no one is playing it.
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4107227#Comment_4107227
If I recall the devs say it's because of how small he is, plus the scamper/slice and dice mobility. I'm not telling you, you are wrong and they don't need help, I was just trying to help you out.
Scamper was delete because survivors was crying. Right now Chucky can't control map because he is 4,4 clown with knifeknife and ability for 2,5 seconds with couldown 12
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
You might want to look up a streamer called theChuckyEnjoyer , they do really well as them and might have good tips that might help you improve.
tell me just one reason why he is 4,4 and I delete the post and my account bnvr forum
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
You might want to look up a streamer called theChuckyEnjoyer , they do really well as them and might have good tips that might help you improve.
oh, there are in this game doesn't everything so easy. I can also use my second account and with family library play against noobs low MMR, but on high MMR everybody know how Chucky's ability target'targets and loop him
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very good question! And also for Chucky it was very important part of ability. Now he is feeling
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@Elan said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4106531#Comment_4106531
Pig's dash is 2.3s
i have seen in new ptb new tutorial and there are 4 seconds
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bro, u play in game where you can just drop pallet and run for very much distance. Middle chase is 2-3 generators
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@kit_mason said:
Of all the killers I think need prioritising for changes, Chucky isn't one of them. He's in a good spot rn.
Do you think? You can just use one perk and its = full ability of killer. Even pig is better him, because she 4,6 and also have dash with speed 7,1 for 4 second, don't 3. (She also can be full game without radius of terror without very big couldown)
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@Arcturus said:
While Chucky definitely isn't as strong as he used to be, from everywhere I've seen he's still considered a solid B tier character, if not on the high end of B tier. Chucky might not be S tier or anything, but he is far from useless. Your proposed changes, especially the combo of making him 4.6 and almost doubling his dash duration, could potentially make him even stronger than he was at launch (when he was top 5 or even top 3 killers depending on who you asked and everyone agreed he needed nerfs). Chucky is 4.4 because his extremely small stature combined with the fact that he can make his red stain disappear on demand already makes it extremely difficult to play against him in a lot of tiles. And if you almost doubled the duration of Chucky's dash, it would almost be comparable to giving Blight the ability to hit on his first rush. I'm not completely opposed to a small Chucky buff, but these proposed changes would push it way too far.
Also, please do not spam the forums with the same post multiple times. It could potentially bury topics that other people wanted to discuss.
His ability it's just 2 lithe or sprint(thanks bnvr for nerf) . Time is same and speed… 6m/s and 8m/s 30 percent difference between perk and ability
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@Arcturus said:
While Chucky definitely isn't as strong as he used to be, from everywhere I've seen he's still considered a solid B tier character, if not on the high end of B tier. Chucky might not be S tier or anything, but he is far from useless. Your proposed changes, especially the combo of making him 4.6 and almost doubling his dash duration, could potentially make him even stronger than he was at launch (when he was top 5 or even top 3 killers depending on who you asked and everyone agreed he needed nerfs). Chucky is 4.4 because his extremely small stature combined with the fact that he can make his red stain disappear on demand already makes it extremely difficult to play against him in a lot of tiles. And if you almost doubled the duration of Chucky's dash, it would almost be comparable to giving Blight the ability to hit on his first rush. I'm not completely opposed to a small Chucky buff, but these proposed changes would push it way too far.
Also, please do not spam the forums with the same post multiple times. It could potentially bury topics that other people wanted to discuss.
His ability on reilse was 10 m/s and it was balanced. 4,6 he need because he can't control map. His obscurity it's just perk like treachery or more perks in the game. Look at another 4,4 killer, Judge, he can control map, the hunterres, she can throw axes, jason, he has fast mode, but what can do Chucky
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i think its balance
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hi, I've come up with a few ideas for Chucky — please rate them!
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/470956/chucky-buff-suggestions#latest
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@Wezqu said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4106423#Comment_4106423
He had manual scamper in the Hidey-ho mode it was removed as it was making most loops way too unsafe against him. He got quite easy hits with it too. Also what do you mean on "both PC and Console" they don't make things work differently by platform on my knowledge.
hello, I've come up with a few ideas for Chucky — please rate them!
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/470956/chucky-buff-suggestions#latest
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@pidgeon said:
Whenever Chucky first released you could not manual scamper on controller and so I was unable to test the scamper myself.
hi, I've come up with a few ideas for Chucky — please rate them!
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/470956/chucky-buff-suggestions#latest
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hello, I've come up with a few ideas for Chucky — please rate them!
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/470956/chucky-buff-suggestions#latest
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@SpyUA said:
I would love a Chucky buff, the wolf form on Dracula is basically as small as Chucky while doesn't give survivors any indication where he is, gets basically 5% haste orbs which also recharge the ability (which is arguably stronger) and 4.6 when it's only 1/3 of the Dracula's kit, Chucky is just power creeped by Dracula and Myers and needs some good buffs, maybe even a rework.
He is kind of a forgotten killer.
Hey, I've come up with a few ideas for Chucky — please rate them!
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/470956/chucky-buff-suggestions#latest
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Also, bugs should be repaired
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Also, bugs should be repaired