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@Grigerbest said:
Amm... Don't kick the gen then?
How about you don't drop the pallet then?
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@MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:
We don't need to buff gen kick again, it's just fine atm.
No it's not killer wastes 3 seconds to regress a gen and survivors tap it in less than a second to stop the regression.
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Tunneling is meta now cuz gens are too fast the deja vu + resilience combo is too strong and gens get finished way too fast so killers tunnel more to combat that. Decisive has nothing to do with this.
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@Crowman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3589224#Comment_3589224
You said there was no counter. I listed a counter.
It's not a counter if it's not reliable.
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@Crowman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3589206#Comment_3589206
Hex: Blood Favor. Down the survivor and block the pallet they are under.
Blood favor gets removed in the first min of the game it's not a reliable perk.
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@HugTechLover said:
Why? That would be overpowered. Iron grasp is completely fine as is.
Ok maybe not flashlight saves but you got nothing to counter pallet saves so I still stand by my opinion.
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Unbreakable & Boon: Exponential. Gl next
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If you have a win streak you will get survivor sided maps
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@mikewelk said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3583287#Comment_3583287
Didn't do anything considered toxic, unless pallet saving/looping is now toxic. Didn't tea-bag, didn't taunt in any way, didn't emote at a pallet, etc. I played by the killer handbook I guess. I just don't like toxicity in general because I know how it feels on the receiving end. But yeah, okay, my bad. They were a streamer as well with quite a large following so definitely not inexperienced.
This is pretty funny though, thanks for the chuckle.
Exactly my point you could not help yourself but try to taunt me at the end of your reply. Now I know for sure you're not as innocent as you make it out to be lmao.
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@dknb said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3583287#Comment_3583287
They do unpleasant things for no reason.
Why do you assume that the survivors are evil and the killers are innocent.
Very interesting thoughts of Killer Main.
Guy I have 2.5k in this game and it's always the survivors taunting the killer. If you play survivor and you are good at it why be a dick about it.
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@solarjin1 said:
The combo definitely busted but it the only perk that do something vs tunneling. kinda want it to stay
People are abusing this combo even if the killer is not tunneling.
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@SOULWARRIOR71K said:
It’s great against tunneling too not just swfs. Until tunnel off hook is made less rewarding, this combo should stay as is.
Not when its being abused.
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Yeah decay is a thing I took a half of year break and after I returned I was getting baby survivors in my games but as the guy above said get like 10 4k in a row and you'll be back into the sweat lobbys in no time.
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I love how the guy that made this thread got banned lmao
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More than sure you were toxic to the Oni in some way and taunted him, killers don't go out of their way to be scumbags for no reason. I'm most positive you T-bagged him or something or emoted at him after a pallet stun. I know very well survivors can't help themselves but be toxic to new or inexperienced killers for that ego boost. So how about you tell us the entire story and give us a reason why the Oni was hitting you on hook.
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@MaddieMage said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3579187#Comment_3579187
Not my point. My point was that when those perks you mentioned got their nerfs, everyone cried that they were dead and no longer usable yet they’re all still being used at high rates. If they were dead, why not move onto a different META? Obviously they still have insane value. I’ve seen it in my matches.
What different meta? Pallet kicking? There are no other regression perks so ppl will still use them even if they are weak and they will run 4 slowdowns cuz it's not worth running just one of them. In case you are not aware gen rush meta is popular atm so killers have no other choice but bring slowdowns, there is no more fun you sweat you win you meme you lose.
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@MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3579582#Comment_3579582
If survivor is running around pallet 3 times, then you are probably not playing so effective.
MacMillan maps are just fine.
These are non Jungle Gym loops on Coal Tower all of them safe loops there are no 50/50 or unsafe loops.
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@MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3579582#Comment_3579582
If survivor is running around pallet 3 times, then you are probably not playing so effective.
MacMillan maps are just fine.
MFT is a thing in case you are not up to date with the patch notes.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3579295#Comment_3579295
I'd tone down the 99%. But for the most part this is true. I turn all anonymous mode settings on and play every single lobby. Don't check names, profiles or anything. Just play. You'll likely win more than lose so suck it up your supposed to lose sometimes.
I'd rather lose in higher mmr then win in lower mmr.
You are right but some games are unwinnable when you get a 4 man that is running every meta perk possible and you just end up hitting endurance every time you swing no matter what you do play fair tunnel slug camp you just can't win.
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@Hunkulese said:
95% of SWF groups are people just hanging out playing DBD. It's extremely rare to going against an actual team of survivors who are doing everything they can to win. A large number of the sweaty games you have are also likely against solo queue gamers since they tend to actually try harder.
It's not a competitive game. There is nothing to track how well or poorly you're doing. Removing the ability to play with friends would kill the game.
Are you kidding me? Literally all my games are sweat fests, Idk about your mmr but there is always BNPs and instalheals in my lobbys I even got Chinese sweat squad that we're VPN-ing on EU server. There is nothing casual about this game anymore everyone is tryharding like their actual life depends on it.
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@MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:
You can't nerf SWFs. You can't punish people for playing with their friends. SWFs are what keeping online games alive. So this is not gonna happen.
BHVR is already nerfing maps and perks only because SWF exists.
What? Bro have u seen the Macmillan reworks they turned that realm into survivor heaven they literally removed all of the unsafe pallets now you got the jungle gym and safe pallets left there are not 50/50 anymore just run around a pallet three times and then predrop rinse and repeat.
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@jesterkind said:
What exactly would you propose they do, though?
They can't just disable the ability to play with your friends outright, that'd be ridiculous. They can't put serious restrictions on people for playing with their friends either, for the same reason.
Genuinely, what do you expect them to do beyond just monitoring what strong players (SWF included) are making use of and adjusting it accordingly?
They can show if players are in a party in the pre-game lobby but that will make a lot of killers dodge.
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@MaddieMage said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3579339#Comment_3579339
Pick rate has nothing to do with it. Especially since BHVR claims they don’t nerf perks based on pick rates.
This post is about people claiming that MFT needed nerfed because it was a free perk that didn’t require any skill or effort to use. Same for UW.
You’re arguing a straw man that no one even brought up.
There are maps that have little to no lockers to help with UW therefore making the perk situational. MFT does not have RNG behind it.
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@MaddieMage said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3579174#Comment_3579174
Interesting they got nerfed into the forums yet I’m constantly still getting killers running full Gen regression builds .
Yeah killers need to run 4 slowdown's since the perks are so weak atm and need to pair them to get any value out of them after the nerfs.
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@MaddieMage said:
Okay let’s talk about this. The big complaint I saw about this perk was that all you had to do to use it was get injured, and therefore it took no skill and rewarded you for playing badly.
Okay fine. So how are we all justifying Ultimate Weapon then? Where is the thought and effort required to use Ultimate Weapon? All you have to do is not know where survivors are and open a locker and boom, you get all the information. Not only do you get info on where there are, they get a negative status effect for 30 seconds and you CONTINUE to get info on where they are for 30 seconds anytime they enter your terror radius during that time. Meaning if a survivor is lucky enough to not be in your terror radius when you use it, they have to know where the killer is (doesn’t happen) and stay out of that radius for 30 seconds otherwise they get revealed and inflicted as well. And how do they know where the killer is? Terror radius usually but once you’re in that, it’s already too late.
After that 30 seconds, you only have to wait 30 more seconds and you can rinse and repeat.
People say “run calm spirit” but that means you’re telling people to take up an entire perk slot for every match on the off chance that a killer has UW. And weren’t killer mains complaining about having to use perk slots to counter MFT?
So again, explain to me what thought, effort or skill is required to utilize this level? How is this perk also not a reward for not playing well? When is this perk going to get looked at? Just saying what’s good for the goose…
Ultimate weapon has a 7.27% pick rate compared to MFT who has 24.97% I'll let you do the math to figure out why one got nerfed over the other. The debuff is there to counter WoO who has 34.74% pick rate.
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@mca240 said:
Per title. It is no secret that the most overpowered thing in this game is a premade on comms with every meta perk and stacked item possible. It is all you face after playing the game for a while and the main reason people lobby dodge.
They are never gonna do that cuz SWFs will never find matches, ppl will be constantly dodging SWF lobbys and their cue times would be insane and if a killer would decide to play against them he will probably be one of those sweaty tunneling killers that would make the game extremely "unfun" for them and that will lead to more problems and complains and ppl crying on twitter XD
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@Hex_Ignored said:
They have. They are refusing to nerf nurse so she is probably their answer.
Maybe Nurse is the strongest killer in the game but she is boring af to play and some ppl don't even touch her since she is so difficult to master so bringing Nurse into this discussion is not a valid point. For reference I haven't played against a Nurse in like 3-4 weeks.
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@KidDope25 said:
I don’t lobby dodge I just don’t cry cause I’m gonna lose 1 game and still win 99% of my matches. Skill issue
Sure Otzdarva how about you show us some proof of your winstreak.
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@MaddieMage said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3579174#Comment_3579174
Interesting they got nerfed into the forums yet I’m constantly still getting killers running full Gen regression builds .
Yeah cuz there are no other perks that killers can use for regression, the ones I listed above are literally all of the regression perks available for killers from the total of 112 perks that killers have.
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Literally all regression perks for killer got nerfed into the ground Pain Resonance nerfed, Pop nerfed, Call of Brain nerfed, Ruin nerfed, Corrupt nerfed, Eruption nerfed, Overcharge nerfed, Thanatophobia nerfed the only perk that got a buff is Surge that is solely for M1 killers if you rely on your power to get a down you can not use this perk so it's basically a nerf to some killers.
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Game is full of cheaters atm and they are trying to hide it with mft and hope and other haste perks, literally had a cheater while playing vanity mirror Myers and saw him speeding up behind walls and the guy shamelessly was telling me that it's his perks that gave him the speed boost. He was running MFT, Hope, Distortion, Power of Two he was aware that he could be seen with aura reading most probably that's why Distortion was there but it was easy to get rid of his stacks with Vanity Mirror. He did not heal anyone the entire game for power of two to work cuz I deliberatly commited to him but yet he still had the speed boost I ended up having Bloodlust 3 and still could not catch up to him. I think that the hackers are not using an actual speed boost but just making perks activate without having their condition made.
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@Venusa said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3576707#Comment_3576707
DBD isn't a counterpick game. Try again.
Also asking anyone to run Calm Spirit in 2023 is funny.
If you want to win they you counter pick if not just play the game take the lose and move on.
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@Venusa said:
Ultimate Weapon and Nowhere to Hide are disgusting. They only overpower already S-Tier mobility killers like Nurse and Blight and it's unbelievable how they can just zoom across the map with their brains off to down and slug everybody one by one.
Survivors had distorsion and calm spirit what's stopping you from using them? ohhhh no room for second chances after I see.
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My advice pick nurse or blight and start learning that muscle memory, playing any other killer is pointless in todays meta since dbd is such a sweat fest and nobody plays for fun anymore.
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@xEa said:
People pre-drop pallets because your killer can simply deny looping pallets. 115% and still range attack.
MFT is nerfed soon.
Those survivors you played against are just a combined 35 year old sad bunch of sadness running the best stuff and then still having a big mouth.
Blight and Nurse both need some serious nerfs.
Last but not least: The point of playing a killer that is not op is to have fun? Or to challange yourself? I dont know. When i play Clown, Trapper or Pig, i most of the time 4K. Is it fun? Maybe 3-4 games, then i usually switch to survivor because it gets boring really fast.
If they nerf blight and nurse the killer meta ends right there, atm they are the only killers that can actually do something against 4 man sweat squads that bring all the items and offerings to ensure a win.
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@dbdthegame said:
Blight running from nerfs with double speed.
More like Adrenaline Vial + Crow lol
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@CountOfTheFog said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/395699/okay-i-seriously-why-do-people-slug
I read that twice and can't follow the story. In full disclosure, I am under the influence. Can you just give me a more simple wall of text? Smaller and to the point?
Slugging for the 4k
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@Ariel_Starshine said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3574285#Comment_3574285
The fact that you admitted you'd three gen with SM out of spite shows that it is indeed still a problem and just adds further premise to OP argument.
As a side note, I can kite SM for a long time, however I do find going against her rather boring.
People abuse mft+hope and Buckle up+ftp and instaheals so why can't I abuse SM and tri gen with her? Do you see the hypocrisy now?
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@Ariel_Starshine said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3574285#Comment_3574285
The fact that you admitted you'd three gen with SM out of spite shows that it is indeed still a problem and just adds further premise to OP argument.
As a side note, I can kite SM for a long time, however I do find going against her rather boring.
End game was the time when the killer could snowball but he can no longer do that if survivors are faster than him.
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If they make it so killers don't lose bloodlust when breaking pallets MFT wont be a problem anymore or maybe lose just one level of it instead of the entire stack.
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I don't see a problem, if it counters the gen rush meta let people play her as they want. If you want my honest opinion I would gladly tri gen with the SM just to spite mft+hope abusers.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3573156#Comment_3573156
Try not to be so aggressive lol.
People have been abusing all of the event gimmicks so far, flashback to the snowman crap.
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If you don't play the S and A tier killer you are not gonna win anytime soon. That's the meta right now and there is not much you can do about it so either play Pyramid Head and have fun and lose your games or spam the ######### out of Nurse/Blight/Wesker and 4k every game. Your choice.