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My point is that there’s absolutely no reason for these buffs. I personally don’t think they’re necessary.Sinner said:@Watery said:
You guys do know that Survivors are supposed to be underpowered, right? It’s the whole point of the “asymmetrical 4v1 horror-survival game” Mechanic. Surviviors are SUPPOSED to be weak.Yup and the very thing that makes them weak is the fact that they can be removed from the game. What's your point?
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I don’t really think it would work. If that was the case, it would be exploited to no end.OGlilSPOOK20 said:I would love to see a Avoid this Player option put into the game so I can no longer play against toxic survivors or killers. -
You guys do know that Survivors are supposed to be underpowered, right? It’s the whole point of the “asymmetrical 4v1 horror-survival game” Mechanic. Surviviors are SUPPOSED to be weak.
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Then prestige your killers. If you prestige, you get better items in your bloodweb. Just like everyone else does.
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Thank you Kanye, Very cool!
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My left asscheek. Get good, stop complaining for ten minutes, and maybe you’ll get somewhere.purebalance said:@Watery said:
purebalance said:@Jack11803 said:
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@Jack11803 said:
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@Peanits said:
It's not an exploit. Their hitbox is no smaller when doing a 360 than when they're just standing there or running in a straight line. Hitboxes don't change size because of movement. You're just missing your swing because they moved.
If someone is 360ing you, stop lunging. Lunging at them makes it easier for them to do. Just walk up to them and do a regular attack and there's significantly less delay, and that'll make it a lot easier to hit.
It's not THEIR hitbox that's being abused. It's the killer's hit/hitbox. Yes nothing changes about the survivor's hitbox. Nobody claimed that. It's abuse of the game's poor mechanics when it comes to the killer's hit radius and box. Faulty programming is being abused.
This is false. You just turn. Literally all you have to do. Turn your sensitively up until you can do a full rotation is less than a second
No it's 100% true. You can lie to justify you using glitches to cover your bad play. I'd laugh about the tears when they remove it and tell you gitgud because it's worse than camping
I’m a rank 1 killer player. You really have ego issues if you need to instantly associate me with being a survivor main to not feel crippled
You said you condone it which means you use it. Your ego must be so bad that you have to conflate someone else having a bad ego for making an accurate observation. Sad.
Just... stop. Right now. Stop. This is cringe. Get good, and learn to deal. Case closed.
Yeah you are cringe worthy for defending use of broken mechanics. Get good if you get mad when someone lagswitches you then. Get good. It's cringeworthy if you can't deal with lagswitching.
This has complete waste of my time since you refuse to actually refute my claims in a proper manner. So unless you’d like to throw out yet another false accusation; hit the road.
EDIT: LAGSWITCHING IS A REPORTABLE OFFENSE. You can’t be serious. Stop. This is why we can’t have nice things, you know that? Play the damn game, and learn to overcome your shortcomings. I’m not saying “I’m such a god, blah blah blah.” I’m saying that it’s a you problem. Almost every killer main on this forum will and continually refute you. Almost every survivor can account for severe bs that has happened to them. If you can’t learn to be at least decent at the game, that’s not our problem. We are not #########. This has not only been plaguing me to no end, but you’ve been continually citing improper or expired evidence; even going as far as saying LAGSWITCHING is viable. That’s cheating. It even says that in game! 360’s have been even accounted by the devs, and they said they like them. Was it intentional? No. Are they here to stay however? Yes.
This entire discussion has said that you’re wrong, but you refuse to listen. Stop while you’re falling behind, and maybe go on discord and attend killer school! It’s a great program. It’s apart of the official discord too! Go ahead and join it. It’ll be a good experience. And as someone who has used it, it helps a lot.
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This thread just turned against purebalance real quick.
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Just... stop. Right now. Stop. This is cringe. Get good, and learn to deal. Case closed.purebalance said:@Jack11803 said:
@purebalance said:
@Jack11803 said:
@purebalance said:
@Peanits said:
It's not an exploit. Their hitbox is no smaller when doing a 360 than when they're just standing there or running in a straight line. Hitboxes don't change size because of movement. You're just missing your swing because they moved.If someone is 360ing you, stop lunging. Lunging at them makes it easier for them to do. Just walk up to them and do a regular attack and there's significantly less delay, and that'll make it a lot easier to hit.
It's not THEIR hitbox that's being abused. It's the killer's hit/hitbox. Yes nothing changes about the survivor's hitbox. Nobody claimed that. It's abuse of the game's poor mechanics when it comes to the killer's hit radius and box. Faulty programming is being abused.
This is false. You just turn. Literally all you have to do. Turn your sensitively up until you can do a full rotation is less than a second
No it's 100% true. You can lie to justify you using glitches to cover your bad play. I'd laugh about the tears when they remove it and tell you gitgud because it's worse than camping
I’m a rank 1 killer player. You really have ego issues if you need to instantly associate me with being a survivor main to not feel crippled
You said you condone it which means you use it. Your ego must be so bad that you have to conflate someone else having a bad ego for making an accurate observation. Sad.
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Who even said I’m complaining? This entire forum is you against twelve other individuals who KNOW you’re wrong. Please don’t waste my time.purebalance said:@Watery said:
purebalance said:@lyric said:
purebalance said:
@Watery said: It’s really not. 360’s are jukes. It’s not even a reportable offense, and it’s most likely your fault that you can’t hit them. Have you seen what it’s like to get through a pallet or window? Probably not, considering this was entirely killer based. Check yourself before you wreck yourself. They definitely are NOT jukes. A juke is moving in a different direction than they anticipate. This is hit box abuse not a juke.
If you can’t hit someone right there you just suck there is no other excuses for making a 360 cry thread , I guess everything else to cry about has been taken away so we have to grip on to this and go with it
No you're abusing broken mechanics aka exploits. You're the one that sucks having to exploit bad mechanics. Don't cry when you get camped if you use this "fine method" because I guess you were bad and deserve to get camped at that point.
Well, you see... I’m not bad if I do 360’s. It’s your fault you can’t hit them! It’s very easy, you just have to learn. Don’t go pointing fingers without valid evidence, and maybe, if you understood what lunge range and stuff like that is, you’d have an easier time. It’s not my fault that you can’t hit me. It’s yours.
Yes you are bad because you're acknowledging that you're abusing something that is broken. Whether they accepted it or not it's a sign of being bad like camping.
You 360 me I camp you and there should be no complaints on that.
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Someone finally said it.NextKillerSpongebob said:
As a player more tended to the killer side, this is plain #########... You're just bad. Miss the first 360°? - sure no problem. Miss the 2nd 360°? - ur just bad as a killer...BACKSTABBER said:Dont you guys agree? I think that is a clear bug and so ridiculous, just try in real life to move like that lol
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Well, do keep in mind the point of not revealing perks during matches and no communication is to befit the idea that when you play with strangers: you have no idea what motives the other players have. This would get rid of that idea to its entirety. The reason I say this is when you only had the choice to play survivor or killer in the menu (aka when there was no swf), that was the goal of it. Not to say it isn’t a good idea, but I think it gets rid of what the game was going for originally.
EDIT:Also, it seems kinda pointless when you have the survive with friends feature, since you have the ability to communicate. Heck, you have chat on PC and party systems on console. And... if you’re with a group on PC, you most likely use Discord, Skype, or Teamspeak. -
That’s why you dribble, if you know they have it. Maybe if decisive made you wiggle faster, that’d be a cool change! Although, personally, I think it’s fine as is.
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This is both disingenuous to the fact that the character is DLC and is a teachable perk. The Devs did try something, however, they thought it was best to leave it as is. You should be wary of decisive regardless. You shouldn’t say that decisive needs to be changed, personally, I think it is fine as is. Not to say I don’t agree with you, however, I think if you understand that survivors who run this have a ONE TIME opportunity to use it, and if they miss it, it is wasted and that’s a perk slot gone. Even more so to the fact that decisive doesn’t work a lot of the time, and it STILL gets wasted. It’s also countered by Iron Grasp, if you aren’t the obsession.Bravo0413 said:There is no way the devs leave it as is..
Simply because of what peanits stated... when objectives come to the game everyone would run DS because survivors would use it to make up time against the killer and in its current state its just broken in the right hands and wastes too much time.. -
That was my point. If it’s been here for SO long, it’s probably here to stay.Mister_xD said:actually, and i know you survivors dont like to hear that, it is a bug.
that said, it is, similar to gen tapping, acknowledged by the devs who then decided to keep it in the game.personally i dont have a problem with that mechanic, since you can counter it as a killer, you just need some skill to pull that off.
just turn in the direction they are going and you'll hit them. at least thats how i am doing it, i guess there is different ways.btw, the killer side has these "bugs" too, e.g. the killers ability to block the basement stairs with his body. same thing there.
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It’s probably going to stay the same. I’ve stopped running it because I tend to get downed shortly after using it. If you pick up the survivor who is the obsession, you should be wary of DS. It’s counteractvie to the killer because it fits the person who the perk comes from, Laurie. It gives the survivor powerful survival abilities with the cost of being exposed. With the addition of Rancor, decisive seems hardly worth running anymore due to the fact when you’re the obsession, you often get tunneled by the killer.Bravo0413 said:
This is a good point everyone running the same perks is something bhvr is trying to avoid... so the rework could still happen to it..Peanits said:If longer games meant DS could stay, that would just create a DS meta (more so). I don't think everyone should be forced to run one specific perk to counteract an additional objective.
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Well, you see... I’m not bad if I do 360’s. It’s your fault you can’t hit them! It’s very easy, you just have to learn. Don’t go pointing fingers without valid evidence, and maybe, if you understood what lunge range and stuff like that is, you’d have an easier time. It’s not my fault that you can’t hit me. It’s yours.purebalance said:@lyric said:
purebalance said:@Watery said:
It’s really not. 360’s are jukes. It’s not even a reportable offense, and it’s most likely your fault that you can’t hit them. Have you seen what it’s like to get through a pallet or window? Probably not, considering this was entirely killer based.
Check yourself before you wreck yourself.
They definitely are NOT jukes. A juke is moving in a different direction than they anticipate. This is hit box abuse not a juke.
If you can’t hit someone right there you just suck there is no other excuses for making a 360 cry thread , I guess everything else to cry about has been taken away so we have to grip on to this and go with it
No you're abusing broken mechanics aka exploits. You're the one that sucks having to exploit bad mechanics. Don't cry when you get camped if you use this "fine method" because I guess you were bad and deserve to get camped at that point.
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It’s relatively hard! It’s about learning to farm on both ends. This is sensitive ground for a lot of people- I wouldn’t keep going on about it like survivors are unskilled. In fact, it’s kinda disingenuous. Oh, and by the way? rank doesn’t matter lolBravo0413 said:I have gotten to high rank... no its not hard -
I’m confused. Survivor takes plenty of skill when you get to higher ranks, and so does killer. Both are supposed to be hard- so I don’t see the relevancy in that argument.Bravo0413 said:@Watery without without more objectives to complete no its not its broken in the right hands which shouldnt be a thing.... just like 3min games shouldn't be possible.. does it happen all the time? No... but the fact its possible is what matters and then the fact anyone could do it because survivor takes little to no skill to have success..
Maybe try getting to high rank as a survivor, and you’ll understand. I don’t play killer, because it isn’t fun for me, but I’m trying to learn! -
Decisive is fine, after all, it takes up a perk slot and it’s one time use. If you try to hit it and miss, you waste the perk. It’s balanced.
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This is not hitbox abuse, oh my gosh. You want to see the auto aim you guys get? This is one of the few ways we can actually defend ourselves. So unless you actually wanna the time to learn how to hit us, it seems entirely unjust to just say they’re hitbox abuse. If it was hitbox abuse, and they’ve existed FOR SO LONG, the devs would’ve done something about it. Even PROS do this. It’s really not hit box abuse.purebalance said:@Watery said:
It’s really not. 360’s are jukes. It’s not even a reportable offense, and it’s most likely your fault that you can’t hit them. Have you seen what it’s like to get through a pallet or window? Probably not, considering this was entirely killer based.
Check yourself before you wreck yourself.They definitely are NOT jukes. A juke is moving in a different direction than they anticipate. This is hit box abuse not a juke.
If you stand still and actually try to hit them, and you most likely will. Deal with it. Even at higher ranks they deal with them, and they’re easy at seeing them! Movement IS NOT HITBOX ABUSE.
Because, like I said. If it was hitbox abuse- the devs would’ve done something. And since they’ve been here for so long, I doubt they will just be nerfed like THAT. Learn to hit them. It’s a bit hard, but it is certainly not hitbox abuse. If you go to the forums complaining about it, try thinking about it this way. Survivors can’t run from you forever, if you can actually hit them. It’s a YOU problem, not us.
It’s thoroughly disingenuous if you just to say that it’s hitbox abuse. You can HIT a survivor doing 360’s. If you can’t keep track of them, that’s not on us. Stop whining. -
I mean sure, to be honest, I agree. It’s never going to reach. And even with whoever the egotistical person was- no, it’s not going to work.Master said:@Watery said:
The issue with that is there’s a huge difference in how it’s played on console and PC. It’d be hard to win against a PC killer; if they’re good.
Maybe if consoles que’d together, that’d be fine.Console players claim all the time that they play at the same lvl as PC, some of them will even insult you if you say that you cant compare consoles stuttery casual mess to PCs competitiveness
I would love if they implemented cross play
sadly this will never happen and the devs even struggle with the easiest kind of implementations. Dedicated servers or even crossplay is FAR down the road where we will never reach^^ -
Helicopter hair
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Plus that seems, well... stupid, in my opinion. There’s no point in trying to purchase rights- Jason would most likely be SUPER expensive.
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I don’t think that’s really it. They aren’t victims, they’re surviving the entity’s realm. The name is perfect.
To define, victim is a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action.
Survivor, however- A person who survived, especially a person remains alive after an event where others have died.
Or,
The remainder of a group of people or things.
or
A person who copes well with difficulties in their life.
I think survivors is fine, plus it has a better ring to it. Hostages are kidnapped to fulfill a condition, but that’s more commonly used in crime. Survivors is better since this is a new realm, with a to be determined way to escape. -
Well, when you get to high ranks- it’s a bit different. I mean, you probably aren’t wrong, but I’m not either. I see where you’re coming from, though... and nonetheless, you sound incredulousy arrogant; if I’m being blunt.
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The issue with that is there’s a huge difference in how it’s played on console and PC. It’d be hard to win against a PC killer; if they’re good.
Maybe if consoles que’d together, that’d be fine.Sure you are at a disadvantage using a controller against someone using keyboard and mouse...especially in shooters hehe. I have always used a controller on PC for this game and still enjoy it. I survive and get four kills on a regular basis too.
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The killer issue is okay. I totally agree- it’s unfair and their vials deserve a little more. But going after survivors for them having an easy time seems a little unfair, considering most of the Cankers are taken right at the start.
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Then learn to deal. It’s not that hard. If you can get a group of friends together, Vial hunting becomes MUCH easier.Master said:@Watery said:
I don’t think you get it. The event is supposed to be challenging... not easy! That’s why they gave us two weeks. Stop whining and enjoy the event, after all, you’re getting ten dollar skins for ABSOLUTEY FREE.You need to grind the cosmetics in the first days or you will have insane problems getting your killer phials because all the survivor mains switching to killer and none of the survivor using the offerings anymore because they cant farm BP like that and are done with the phials already
Thats a you problem- and the event is only four days in. Are you REALLY sure that’s gonna happen? There’s no way of saying for certain. -
Shouldn’t it be obvious? They’re good starters. And there clothing is pretty dark. (except Dwight)
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I don’t think you get it. The event is supposed to be challenging... not easy! That’s why they gave us two weeks. Stop whining and enjoy the event, after all, you’re getting ten dollar skins for ABSOLUTEY FREE.
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The issue with that is there’s a huge difference in how it’s played on console and PC. It’d be hard to win against a PC killer; if they’re good.
Maybe if consoles que’d together, that’d be fine. -
I think it was purely Killer DLC to even out the numbers. Good idea though!
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Do you mean- like pick your playstyle feature? In a game as ambiguous as this, that seems... well, that seems kinda dumb to me. You should focus on being good in ALL areas, not just one.
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EXCUSE ME?
Hitboxes are HUGE
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Here’s the tea sis. It’s supposed to be hard to fill, and the times are only there to find fair matches. Would rather play with 1100 ping, or 90 ping?
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It’s really not. 360’s are jukes. It’s not even a reportable offense, and it’s most likely your fault that you can’t hit them. Have you seen what it’s like to get through a pallet or window? Probably not, considering this was entirely killer based.
Check yourself before you wreck yourself.