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Personally I think it’s because of the power role mentality. Most SWF are toxic because they know they will win and you can’t really retaliate in any way as killer unless your some godlike nurse or spirit. It’s why school bullies surround themselves with others and pick on shy and less confident people that won’t really fight back. I notice that solo survivors tend to start being toxic once they feel confident their solo team is more skilled than the killer. Killers are toxic sometimes but really depends on your definition of toxic. I define toxic as trying to annoy your opponent without any real in game benefit. By this definition I haven’t ran into a real toxic killer in a long time.
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I can’t believe anyone needs to see proof for something obvious.
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Have you tried actually learning to play against him? But I guess complaining is much easier after all.
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I think your on to something also if you look closely the first letter of each of their name spells out McDonPaulieTonySyfy or MDPTS. Now we know PTS stands for Public Test Server in DBD. What does MD stand for is the question which I conclude it stands for Murderous Doll. So together it means Murderous Doll Public Test Server. In conclusion with the above evidence Chucky is the next killer confirmed.
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Its kind of funny because no matter how the killer plays fair or not survivors are almost always toxic to them. Survivors complain about killers being toxic without realizing toxicity is a cycle toxic survivors make toxic killers and vice versa.
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Il give an honest opinion on this and why it’s a bad idea. First of all making chases last longer isn’t a bad idea if there weren’t competent survivors who rush gens. Gens can be done in less than 5 minutes if survivors focus them. Second is Noed only activates at the end not only this but most red rank killers don’t run it since it’s risky. As for the range killers they all slow down when they are about to use their ranged attack so they lose distance and survivors can break line of sight with them. Some of the short ranged killers like Pyramid Head have a long travel time for his smaller ranged attack so they all have a way to be evaded. They once did a test where they removed bloodlust the mechanic that makes killers even faster in chase if they can’t catch up to the survivor, when it was removed many tiles on maps became infinites for most killers except a select few now imagine reducing killer speed permanently. I’m curious what you think of my points. This post is getting long so I’ll cut it here. One more thing is I’ve seen this forum member Van around while browsing and know they tend to lean survivor so to make things clear I no longer play this game and just browse the forums but when I did play Dbd I was red ranks on both sides but I played more survivor.
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@TumbleElf said:
My proposal is just to fix the ability to just stand still during chase. removes the whole skill element of looping.
damn they dropped a pallet... imma just stand still and wait
maybe an indication for when she is actually phase walking. it still leaves the main idea behind of her power, but stops the skilless parts.
for example when she is actually fazing her husk doesnt move and just stands there without twitching.
Honestly what does take skills in this game? Do you think running around in a circle as survivor takes skill? Even when I first started this game as survivor a couple gameplay videos was all it took for me to loop killers well. This game is not meant to be competitive it’s meant to be fun that why it does not have an Esport. You are not meant to survive every game or 4K every game. Players in this community need to learn to have fun and stop worrying about winning every game.
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They can’t nerf one of the two only killers that can take on a skilled swf. But if they do nerf her they should also nerf Nurse actually while their at it just remove killers and make it a gen simulator game.
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I feel you after a few matches like those the game gets tiresome. I’m always impressed when someone tells me they only play killer and for multiple hours. I have deleted this game a while ago to make room for other games and just enjoy browsing the forums to see what’s new or people’s opinions.
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Not much to say.
For Deathslinger: Just keep practicing.
For Blight: He’s not as bad on controller as that other poster makes it seem. It’s just that you have to know you won’t ever be as good with him as he would be on pc. Just practice him and you can get steady wins. But like PC Nurse vs Console Nurse PC Blight is a whole other story.
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As much as SWF is basically legal cheating it’s here to stay. They can’t remove playing with friends that would kill their player base. Some people say a swat SWF is rare but their really not that rare. Best advice I can give you is don’t take your killer matches seriously if you go in with a competitive mindset in a game where one side can basically choose to always win you will be disappointed.
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You forgot to mention they nerfed Twins too. Also I’m not surprised this is a mainly survivor favored update. After the DS nerf I knew killers were in for hell. Just so everyone knows if some long requested survivor tweak comes out you better expect the killer side to receive some nasty unnecessary nerfs after.
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Dbd the only non competitive party game everyone takes too serious.
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I pretty sure dead hard really messes with Nurses. Map mobility is definitely a reason and the fact you rely on your own skill to win with these two killers as opposed to every other killer who relies on survivors making mistakes.
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In order to play Pig better you must learn the way of the boop. Empty your mind and imagine a snoot now boop it, now repeat this thought until you reach enlightenment for that is the path towards Pig mastery.
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I don’t want to assume but I’m guessing you lost pretty badly to a Spirit.
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I’ve played for a couple days after taking a break and found very few campers and tunnelers. You’re just unlucky I guess.
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And survivors want fair 12 hook games lol it’s like telling the killer to lose basically. This game is not balanced enough to play fair. If survivors can do basic loops and sit on gens it’s almost impossible to 12 hook win.
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Sounds good but in exchange add my anti survivor grief perk for killers.
Leave or Die
If you are blinded more than 2 times consecutively that survivor gets blinded themselves for 3 seconds. Upon the gates being open any survivor waiting within 12 meters of the exits without leaving gets instantly sacrificed.
”The preys mockery only serves to anger the entity”
Seems fair since good players won’t be affected by it but bad players can’t cheese escapes or grief the killer.
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@kaeru said:
I was playing as Hag on red ranks yesterday. Survivors most of the time were running into my face and die like lemmings for some reason. I didn't give a hatch to any of them. Constant 4k from one of the most annoying killers should probably get a lot of salty comments, right?
Not a single toxic comment was dropped for about 10 games. Someone even replied gg wp. My profile is open for any kind of commentary from any offended survivor. No comments were left.
Where do you guys find this toxicity all the time? Do we play same dead by daylight? I get toxic players sometimes, but they are soooo rare.
So answering to your question why there is so many toxic players, I only can answer that there is few toxic players and apparently they rarely play against me.
You seem to be very lucky I’ve had so many toxic players I literally had a personality change from playing for everyone’s fun to playing for myself. I’m a very kind person normally but this games players made me a cold hearted person.
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I used to be one of those “Cool” killers you speak of back in the day not tunneling or camping and gave lots of hatch. Until I realized survivors didn’t appreciate me going out of my way to make sure they have fun, always insulting me post match no matter what. Nowadays I only play killer for my own fun even if it’s not fun for survivors since they don’t care anyways. Moral of the story is toxicity really changes people keep being toxic and you keep breeding the players you hate to find.
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I kind of agree but disagree on one thing. From my experience survivors find any good killer player boring or unfun. Most survivors have fun when the killer is less skilled than they are. I only get nice comments if I lose and played fair but negative comments if I win and played fair.
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Their heart on their sleeve.
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Not to ruin the joke but in a way this post proves survivors don’t need a SWF all running DS-Unbreakable-Dead Hard-BT to win against the strongest killers using the strongest builds for those killers. The stridor ruin undying spirit and the iri head ebony mori blood warden huntress. They lost to non meta solo survivors so to the survivors that say DS or Unbreakable are needed this post proves these perks and SWF are overkill against killers.
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Before the dc penalties were a thing there was a dc pandemic. There’s no way that many people had a good reason to dc every match. It’s simple a lot of people don’t like losing. You keep bringing up the term “selfish” and that’s exactly what dcing is it’s selfish. Dcing ruins the game for everyone else in the match. You brought up how you can spawn stuck in ground unable to move as killer and survivors can take you hostage. But be completely honest how often does this happen? You can still dc this extremely rare occurrence and the penalty won’t be that bad unless you have been habitually dcing before. I have played this game since it’s release and have never spawned unable to move let alone with survivors evil enough to take the game hostage. Then you brought up unfun killers like Deathlinger. Others have already given you tips on facing him. Can you counter his power 100%? No but no killers power should be 100% counterable or else they would never catch you. Also for reference I play both sides and actually enjoy going against the Deathlinger there is no killer I hate going against. The killer is playing these killers because they want to play them neither you or anyone else has the right to dictate what killers people can or cannot play.
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Funny sarcastic post lol I almost thought you actually meant to nerf one of the weakest killers lol. It’s a joke post right? Please say yes.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1784368#Comment_1784368
I literally used the torment for final judgement. That's it. No tunneling. No camping. Final Judgement. After like, 130 seconds of him being off the hook.
I used RuinDying yeah, because it's a strong combo. I don't use Tinkerer because imo that's when it's pushed over the edge. Imo RuinDying is healthy for the game because it's brought back totems into the meta better than NOED ever could.
My point isn't about RuinDying here, it's that DS/UB is as op omg uncounterabke pain as people make it out to be.
If you want I can upload some gameplay in future of me playing killer; Pyramid Head, freddy, Bubba, nurse, wraith, etc, to prove to you I don't tunnel people? I've been very open about it before so I don't see why I shouldn't be now. Just let me know and I'll record some for you tonight <3
I’m not saying DS Unbreakable is the end all be all of combos. I’m just trying to give reasons why it’s similar to Ruin Undying. Both are very strong combos we can all agree on this.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1784340#Comment_1784340
I chased someone else
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/D1HNEFXAGTYA/unknown-54.png
I only saw Dead Hard all game. They didn't even get a gen done.
Uncounterable btw.
(Yes, I know that these perks are incredibly problematic when combined together, giving the killer little counterplay to them. However little counterplay is still counterplay. If Spirit has counterplay, so do these perks.)
I was reading this response seriously until I noticed you were playing Pyramid Head with Ruin Undying then I bursted out laughing. I’ll try to hold myself back and give a clear and short response I’m sure everyone with understand. Pyramid Head DS Unbreakable. With these words alone piece together what I’m trying to say. “ok I can’t hold myself back Pyramid Head doesn’t get affected by DS or Unbreakable”. Also before the “You said DS Unbreakable has no counter just play Pyramid Head”. Oh yea 1 killer of the of the 22 killers counters it welp we should all be PH mains I guess. Seriously why are people trying so hard to disapprove of this it’s simple if Ruin Undying is a problem so is DS Unbreakable that easy to understand.
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@BigBrainMegMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1784310#Comment_1784310
Again, giving me excuses.
Why are you chasing the survivor that's going in the locker? This forum is riddled with terrible killers who whine about DS all the time and they all have simple solutions.
How do you think I deal with DS+Unbreakable at Rank 1 and still manage to 3-4k each game?
DS+Unbreakable doesn't mean a free escape, either eat the DS early, or go for someone else.
Jesus Christ.
“DS+Unbreakable doesn’t mean a free escape, either eat the DS early, or go for someone else” This still sounds like no counter so I either get hit by DS or let the survivor escape? Sounds like a lose lose for the killer. Also Ruin+Undying doesn’t mean a free 4K, either cleanse the totems early, or do gens. See I can do it too and sounds less punishing for survivors than “Let them go or leave the locker”.
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@Jill10230 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1784304#Comment_1784304
If I had your GTs I'd play killer against you, I'd do exactly what you do... tunnel, camp, hit hock... just to know the reaction, because in the end it's often when you've never been there that you don't understand anything. Play only killer, nerver play in survivor.. logic😋
When did I say I only play killer? Quote the part of my post I said I only play killer that’s right I never did. I play both sides and go hard against killers and survivors I’ve been hit for an entire match on hook by killers before it’s not rare. Don’t assume things about people it’s really annoying.
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@BigBrainMegMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1784292#Comment_1784292
It does have Counters.
DS+Unbreakable has counters, but every time someone gives you a counter you move the goal post and cover your eyes and ears and ignore every possible advice people actually give.
- Go for someone else.
- Go for the unhooker.
- PATROL GENS.
- DON'T OPEN THE LOCKER!
SEE?! I just negated DS+Unbreakable.
Ruin+Undying doesn't compare to DS+Unbreakable.
Now, cover your eyes and ears and give me an excuse.
Are you serious these “Counters” have been given a million times. Don’t open the locker? Does that sound like a counter? It sounds like you have to let someone escape because their is no counter. DS Unbreakable is more powerful than Ruin Undying that’s a fact. Ruin undying had two very straight forward counters. 1. Cleanse the totems literally can end this combo at the start of the match.2. Do gens the killer can’t be everywhere at once with how fast gens are it shouldn’t be a problem. I’ve went against these combos countless times and a DS Unbreakable squad is worst.
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@Jill10230 said:
I find it completely... paying 30€ (plus dlc) and playing a game at the risk of being permanently banned... especially when you know the many problems, and the unfair attitude of the players in this game like cheating, toxic attitude, etc....
Yesterday I was banned for 5 hours, YES I left the game voluntarily, I don't like to be touched on the hook when I didn't do anything! The next penalty will make me quit the game and all devs games.
Dead by daylight 1 yes, Dead by daylight 2 without me.
People like you are why DC penalties should never be removed. I’d even say make them more punishing we don’t need babies on this game.
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How about DS Unbreakable? This combo has no counters it’s already been explained why it doesn’t have a counter. Almost every high rank survivor run these together. Hope the devs fix these soon unfun to go against.
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Short version of this post “ Me and my SWF usually have an easy time against killers but Pyramid Head actually gives us a challenge please nerf him”. Just saved everyone some time.
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@Felnex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1773295#Comment_1773295
You don't get to say no, you're not a dev.
Tunneling is indeed griefing
NO
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I don’t play much anymore but the few times I play Dbd I facecamp with bubba every match. I used to play a lot more and always fair but survivors always accuse me of camping or tunneling no matter how fair I play. So I decided to give them a reason to call me these things.
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Before I stopped playing I used to play fair so everyone had a good time. After some time playing killer I realized most survivors play to make sure I’m not having a good time. So I started playing every match without caring for anyone else’s fun until I stopped playing.
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@SpaceCoconut said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1643975#Comment_1643975
Kind of like Decisive Strike?
Well said.
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I notice at night this game gets extra toxic. I would suggest to stick with survivor for some reason this community thinks the killer is some kind of stress pillow they can abuse.
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If killer camps do gens and get out your team gave the camper all those bloodpoints by trying to save.
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I’ve been trying to learn Nurse on PS4 as well. I started playing her at rank 4 she is definitely a challenge. But I went from constant 0K to 4K at red ranks in a few days. I just got tired of the same old killers and honestly she is completely playable on console I don’t know what these other guys are talking about.
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I’d prefer Pennywise personally but it’s most likely going to be Jason.
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For real I don’t get how some people get so mad as killer or survivor like the game is so casual Who cares if u live, Die, 4K, 0k just have fun you are not in a tournament it’s not real life or death.
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Speak for yourself their is no “We” I like playing against Spirit and playing as her. Don’t go around assuming everyone hates her just because you do. She is in the game to be played and will be played no matter how much crying you do.
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Survivors that teabag at the exits should be penalized. See how that works? Like everyone will tell you on these forums just deal with it just like how killers deal with teabagging.
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I would take that as a compliment you’re so good with Nurse they think you’re using mouse and keyboard.
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This mm is atrocious unlike a lot of survivors I find no enjoyment destroying rank 20 killers who barely understand the game. They need to fix this asap it’s getting pretty boring no challenge at all.
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@Respectfulnancymain said:
Toxic PEOPLE need a break from the game. Not just survivors
Except mostly survivor seem to be the ones that go the extra mile like creating twitter accounts just to harass you. Mostly killers after match are usually silent from my experience had to set everything to private when playing killer then I put it public when I play survivor. Both sides can be toxic but survivors definitely express it more outside the actual match.
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Try actually playing killer to red ranks the stuff they go through would break most people. I myself find it hard playing fair since no matter what you do as killer the survivors say you played toxic. I’m pretty sure these killers you’re facing are just done with it all they’ll be called toxic for simply standing still in a corner doing nothing.
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I think your just unlucky though to be fair tbagging ghostfaces are probably the same survivors that tbag the killer as well.