Rey_512
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@Spirez said:
I get your point and it makes sense. However, that’s where I see the problem. So many killer perks, but if you don’t take 2-3 gen slowdown perks then you will most likely lose because gens go extremely quick. What’s the point of all these perks if we only get to use the same few to compensate for gen speed. I don’t believe people should have to stop running BBQ just to win a game. I don’t believe people should stop running any perk they’d like to run even just for fun perks just so they have a chance at winning.
Believe me, I wish that we could all run BBQ and not worry about gens flying of we don’t play optimally but that’s the state of the game. If you’re not a good killer player then then gens will fly. Even good killer players won’t get 4Ks each game.
But allow me to rephrase my point: If gen speeds REALLY bother someone to the point where you can’t enjoy a match, BBQ is not worth the perk slot in MY opinion. I’d focus my builds on gen regression/chases.
This goes back to my example of seeing TERRITORIAL killers like Trapper and Hag running BBQ. If you see 3 survivors in an area with no traps, all you get is brief situational awareness but nothing to stop gens or end a chase.
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@fleshbox said:
This is such a dumb post it is not even worth reading. If you are that worried about bbq there are counters for it.. Use your brain. Hide behind a gen, be within range, locker, dance in circles so you tell him that you know he has bbq - this is what i do.
I assume every killer has bbq and a lot of times i am right and the only one who even figures this out. Most dont run either bond or empathy in order to favor "meta" perks which give you ZERO information on what is happening.
Current crop of survs really stink. More so than me and i suck cos i find it hard to lose the killer, but i know mechanics, can do gens without blowing them up, can do safe saves.
Others rush in 2 seconds after the killer has gone.
Glad you could be a productive contributor to this thread by making assumptions on the point of the discussion. Come back when you don’t have the attention span of a wasp and actually read my post.
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@EvilJoshy said:
BBQ has so many counters that you have no right to complain about it. You can run distortion, you can get in a locker or even hide your aura behind a gen. The entire reason they introduced BBQ is to try to get killers to stop camping. Thank the devs for their shortsightedness.
BBQ and gens speeds have nothing in common. BBQ does absolutely nothing to slow down gens speeds. BBQ is only really good on high mobility killers, which there are few. Majority of people who run it use it for the BP gain.
Another post that makes me believe people read thread titles but not the actual thread.
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@Alice_pbg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1119979#Comment_1119979
How is running bbq optimal for a nurse or billy who has trouble getting downs/hooks?
If a person has trouble hitting people, nothing short of unrelenting(perk wise) is actually gonna help them getting downs/hooks.🤷♂️
If the player is bad, the perk isn't to blame.
If the player is good, he'll get some use of bbq, even if other information perks might be better on X killer.
Same thing applies. They should use perks that help cover their weaknesses, not run a perk for the BP gain.
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@MigrantTheGreat said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1119988#Comment_1119988
"You survivor(s)" I'm targeting multiple people, but sure. If the boot fits, feel free to wear it.
Just don’t want this to become a Survivor vs Killer thread. That’s not the point. No animosity towards you at all.
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1119968#Comment_1119968
I think it depends what killer you're playing. However, which one is better has nothing to do with the topic of this post.
The topic of this post is to express my opinion that there are perks BETTER at stalling gens than BBQ, yet the people that want precious BPs who have trouble stopping gens run BBQ almost every match.
I have little to no trouble running a perk like BBQ because I’m skilled enough to stall gens (enough) with my pressure. Some players can’t but still run BBQ.
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@MigrantTheGreat said:
BBQ has a counter, but since you survivors like to tell us to pressure gens, BBQ's arua reading helps us do that, it's just only 3 killers are capable of getting to highlighted survivors within a certain amount of time.
“You survivors.” Nice assumption, friend. I’m rank 1 on both sides.
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@Alice_pbg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1119962#Comment_1119962
There are 3 other perk slots to use for slowdown. Using bbq is not the issue
Very true, but maybe you’re a killer player good enough to run BBQ and not need a full build devoted to gen regression.
Tell me, how is running BBQ on Hag or Trapper optimal in any way for a lower skill player who has trouble getting downs/hooks? I think they’re better off using alternative perks.
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1119929#Comment_1119929
I know that's what you are saying and I'm telling you that TT does not help gens speeds at all compared to BBQ. Getting rid of BBQ isn't gonna help your gen speeds unless you're dropping it for something like Pop, and even then you need at least one tracking perk to make proper use of Pop.
Thrilling is still a better alternative to BBQ (in my opinion) since it guarantees a 16 second stall on any gen not being worked on and situational awareness regardless of distance.
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@Alice_pbg said:
TL:DR - Bbq isn't that great of a perk and there are better alternatives.
Yeah...we know. We mostly just want the bloodpoints.
And no one uses bbq to slow down generators, they use it for the information the auras (or lack of auras) give.
If you’re not complaining about gen speeds then my point doesn’t apply to you. I know for a fact that the majority of killer players run BBQ, and I also see a lot of gen speed complaint threads... so my discussion here is to shine a light on those folks and have them question whether they should still be running BBQ instead of gen stalling/regression perks.
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@[Deleted User] said:
You can still use BBQ, but you shouldn't necessarily be going after the procs. If you see 1 aura out of 3 possible survivors, that means 2 are potentially going for the save. It's always better to contest a save than it is to cross the map and maybe use Pop on a gen to regress it by the equivalent amount of time you spent just getting there.
PGTW/BBQ can really be trap perks for M1 killers because it feels like you're actually doing something when all you're doing is making up for unnecessary travel time, depending on how you use them.
It's better to contest a save if you know where someone is coming from. You can force another person off a gen, not waste travel time, and potentially force struggle state if you intercept and the other survivors don't realize it.
I understand, but I’m not a killer player that enjoys staying around a hook if I don’t get BBQ procs when I’m running it. I’ll search the surrounding hook area briefly then patrol my gens again. I have success with my method (Rank 1) more often than not.
Unless I’m going against immersed teams, I rarely come back to the hook.
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@Mikeasaurus said:
Why are you complaining about BBQ? Most people most likely run it for the BP bonus more than the actual tracking of Survivors.
It’s apparent you didn’t read my post.
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Blueberry,
I’m not saying Thrilling Tremors (or any perk combo) will SOLVE gen speeds. I’m saying Killer Players that use BBQ and have trouble slowing gens down are better off using other perks SUCH AS Thrilling.