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@Riddick said:
I'll drop a message here because as someone that is trying to get back into the game and wanted to pick up Legion, the changes I saw on it are so big and some so atrocious (and easy to fix) that it seems stupid to just forget about Legion. As a survivor playing vs Legion (where I have a higher rank), I dont feel.any threat and looping him really feels like a joke, since his power ends up being useless once it hits you one time with it.
Yep, in all honesty being a red rank Legion is absolute hell. Before that though it's not bad but it's nothing crazy not like Hillbilly and not even the same playing field as Nurse. I get not every killer has to be super strong but it feels like the game is balanced around Hillbilly and other far better killers and the weak ones just have to sit there and suffer whether or not you like playing as them. And come on really, 3 of his addons don't exist pretty much, nobody uses Fuming mixtape, Frank's is actually worthless, and since the mend timer totally pauses during mending stab wound study is also pointless.
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I always thought that was just the house basement but idk, if it was done in more recent time with more detail there probably would be the actual basement he was kept in.
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Sorry my broski but if you're saying David isn't already slaying ***** Imma have to call bs lol.
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Just curious. I personally would love a Wraith movie.
I'd say Legion because I like them but I already know that movie would probably be ######### lol unless they did it like "You're next" maybe, I'd say Huntress or Hag.
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I can see what you mean, nobody uses Fuming mixtape, Frank's is actually worthless, and deep wound study is a joke. I think you had some good ideas specifically with the mixtapes (but if they decreased the time you had in frenzy with the Fuming mixtape it would be pretty bad just because of the new terror radius people get a headstart to split up) but for the deep wound study I think the least it could do is let you see the timer, more specifically when it pauses. Since the timer pauses when mending the quicker drain means pretty much nothing. I don't need to beat around the Bush, Legion atm is at most C tier and I got up to rank 3 with him using no addons or offerings, at those ranks your power means nothing and you will be gen rushed to a 1-2k consistently, these changes wouldn't make him op at all unless you're playing against baboons who don't know how to loop let alone make distance from eachother.
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He honestly sounds fun now, a real dream demon. If they bring all 3 he's gonna be stupid strong, if one of them gets cut I figure it's gonna be the gen teleport. I'm rubbing my hands together, placing snares at loops, putting a fake pallet in the shack at the start to make them guess which is real and if they guess wrong they're totally screwed, and gen teleporting to chase someone and then immediately snap around and teleport to a gen where a dude is.
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And theres still no talk, mention or even hint of recompense for the killers who have to deal with them?
Honestly I would at least prefer it to specifically let you know when you're playing against a 4 man, and when it does let you know that if you stay in you'll get a BP boost. Give me some reason to stay in other than I enjoy suffering, also make it so survivors don't automatically separate when they do get lobby dodged. Just an idea, but one I'd be down with
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I'm not gonna lie that ability is pretty #########, I mean it'll be fun when it works but against people who pay any attention at all it ain't gonna be all that, the perks are mediocre aside from the token one which might be ok. Let's think about it, 0 anti loop potential, very easy to counter, let's the survivor know when it actually popped giving them time to gtfo and is guaranteed to get a pallet to the face in the right spot.
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oH Nooo pLeAse DonT nERf mY frEE 3rd hit, hOw eLse wIll I Teabag at the exit gate thanks to the killer banking on the fact that I shouldn't be able to survive more than 2 hits. So sick of going against full teams of nothing but dead hard with Mettle of man spam. Sure dead hard only works against good players once but when you think you have them because you waited for the dead hard they magically tank the hit anyways.
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(Killer main) While I love this new patch my only complaint is that the gates spawns need to be changed a bit, the gates that are so close together you can literally see both of the boxes without moving from one spot is total bs and a guaranteed win for the killer, Mettle of pussy can't even save them if they don't have a gate open yet and you see them opening it. You get the idea
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It's not a threat itself but it is useful, makes the survivor do something while you go after the next guy and the next guy and possibly even the last guy. It injures them and makes them mend which basically just makes them waste time while you chase someone else.
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Yeah, why not?
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This is gonna be a longish guide since I like to go into detail on why I use what I use, in all honesty Legion is no longer all that different of a killer from other M1's but he is definitely not a clone.
I forgot to mention his ability definitely wastes time now because they have to heal to full after mending otherwise if you find them (with bbq) and they're still injured they're dead because of that 115% speed boost.
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Robert Bean Scott who is affiliated with Scream (I don't know his exact connection) has been posting a lot on Twitter about the harassment he's gotten from the DbD community.
People on the internet can really be fickle #########, I feel bad for the guy.
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Yeah, he's dead guys, I'll just copy+paste my full rant on why and you can make the decision for yourself.
Wow, it was worse than I anticipated, I was expecting at best a killer that could get a free hit(s) and then begin the real chase, those pin buffs looked promising at first but instead we got a dogshit, unfun, unsatisfying killer that makes Freddy look competitive. Where do I even begin, cooldown is broken it resets all the way to 0 and it takes a ######### eternity to be able to use it again, pins are counter intuitive as you should not be hitting survivors twice, I coulda swore this is what you were trying to fix. Vault speed is absolutely pathetic, may as well break the ######### and move on (kinda like everyone will to other killers), the power ending is beyond painful, can't see ######### and it lasts longer than Nurse's cooldown. Your power lasts a long time too bad dead hard means you just wasted anywhere from 34 seconds to 24 (time spent in power+cooldown+recharge to try again). And why on Earth would you increase his terror radius, his whole purpose is to hit multiple people, nobody is stupid enough to sit together on a gen in terror radius and especially not when they find out it's Legion. You better actually balance this killer before you put this disgrace on the live server.
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Wow, it was worse than I anticipated, I was expecting at best a killer that could get a free hit(s) and then begin the real chase, those pin buffs looked promising at first but instead we got a dogshit, unfun, unsatisfying killer that makes Freddy look competitive. Where do I even begin, cooldown is broken it resets all the way to 0 and it takes a ######### eternity to be able to use it again, pins are counter intuitive as you should not be hitting survivors twice, I coulda swore this is what you were trying to fix. Vault speed is absolutely pathetic, may as well break the ######### and move on (kinda like everyone will to other killers), the power ending is beyond painful, can't see ######### and it lasts longer than Nurse's cooldown. Your power lasts a long time too bad dead hard means you just wasted anywhere from 34 seconds to 24 (time spent in power+cooldown+recharge to try again). And why on Earth would you increase his terror radius, his whole purpose is to hit multiple people, nobody is stupid enough to sit together on a gen in terror radius and especially not when they find out it's Legion. They better actually balance this killer before this disgrace touches the live server.
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@rNine_ said:
It's a time waster, and a free first hit killer. He's more than fine, and I say this as a Legion main.
You obviously haven't seen him being used in the PTB, he's beyond garbage with little to no point in running him over anyone else, watch people play him and you tell me "He's more than fine" (yes, I am pissed)
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@Shroompy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/427875#Comment_427875
Not many people are gonna quit simply because they're changing 1 killer... He wasn't healthy for the game in the first place and nobody has even tried the changes yet, and they're probably not final. Remember when Legion first came out? Every one thought he was the worst killer in the game until they realized he was better (especially with Frank's Mixtape) Also are you saying that Legion wasen't a BS killer? So you think that a killer with no counter play is fun to go against? He's boring, no matter how good you are, that Legion no matter how much they suck will catch you. Honestly, every one complaining about Legion makes me think of a child just looking at something on their plate and already decided that they don't like it without even trying it. I do agree the changes are harsh, but at least there's counter play now.
I semi agree with you, my position in recent changed a little, the 115% is gonna make chases a lot easier but nerfing the ability movement speed and terror radius increase was a terrible idea. With 32 meters people aren't gonna sit around at a gen together and wait to get hit and all they have to do to make his power worthless is run in even slightly different directions. Both of those changes are really all that need to go and he'll be fine. Btw incase anyone missed this in the main page (seems a lot of people did) he will keep his frenzy bar if he misses, so you won't have to charge for long at all if you miss an attack early.
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@Cali said:
Only way to counter SWF is to dodge or use an ebony. I feel happy when I play against solos and they manage to escape from me. Only then was I really outplayed.
Exactly, I was playing Legion a while back and I got obliterated by a dude using No Mither, ended up getting everyone else but him and when I finally did I was camping the last guy I hooked, and immediately carried him over to hatch lol.
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Haven't been playing the game for more than a few weeks less than 100 hours console.
Honestly when I was starting out 4 mans were a plague but once you really "get good" and get the neccessary teachables it's not too bad but you will have to camp people and things a lot, ignoring A-holes who spam their flashlight at you while you're guarding a gen is a good skill to have. When you know you got a 4 man, the first dude you hook you camp the ######### outta him, not face camp though, lurk around from a small distance and wait for when you think they will go for the unhook and either rehook the guy or get his friend. Keep making them trade otherwise you will lose, remember while you do this not to get carried away chasing someone because that is what they want, chase for a few seconds and then immediately go back because if they got impatient they might've made their move already. The vast majority of 4 mans will not be keen on letting one of them get camped to death at the beginning of the game so this usually always works unless that guy is "not important" lol. Either way it's much easier to win with 3 people alive rather than 4. Sure what I do can be considered annoying but do you wanna know what else is annoying? 4 mans, getting juggled, body blocked, and then taunted is some bs and I got tired of it quick so I got over being toxic myself when neccessary. Do be warned though once you do kill someone like that the even if you get another guy hooked they probably won't go after him like they did the first guy so you usually wont wanna camp him at all, gen patrol against 3 people is much easier than 4.
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@Tzeentchling9 said:
If 115% is enough to end a chase, why aren't any of the M1 Killers tearing up the meta then? Why do Trapper, Wraith, Pig, Doctor, Leatherface, Freddy, and Clown all suck?
Trapper still isn't abysmal but his ability is very mediocre against good players and if you don't play your cards right you may only get one trap or even none but if done right you can easily clean house. I don't have/play Pig, Wraith, or Clown so I wouldn't know, Leatherface is easy mode for me I stomp the ######### out of people with him I played him yesterday and the day before trying new killers and just having that speed really made the difference, it made games a lot more fun compared to playing Legion at the same rank. We already know why Freddy is abysmal that's not even a question. Don't forget about Micheal at T2, he's pretty strong I played him without teachables (because he was my first killer I played) and stomped my way up to rank 5 in a few days but that's just me, he's great because he has the ability to end chases very quickly by popping T3 Myers at a good time and downing one or two people at least. Thing is M1 killers that I enjoy have ways to make chases go by fast, Myers can instadown after a lot of buildup, Leather can instadown with the chainsaw in the open/with no pallets left, and even trapper can lead people into them and if they hit one it's gg for them. While Legion won't have a way to insta down he can however when he sees multiple people together injure multiple in very quick succession, down the last guy he hit, and come back for the other guy's. I think his ability will be worth something is because they will have to mend and now that he can more easily catch people in chase they will have to heal up to full otherwise if he finds them again with let's say BBQ or Stridor they're kinda screwed where as before they could easily last a good while by looping you.
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There are some typos please try to ignore them, thanks.
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He does require change but not this, this is beyond over the top and will guaranteed make him worse than Freddy, the only guy I know who mains Freddy is actually a masochist. Please reconsider this update Behavior
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@Shroompy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/427813#Comment_427813
You're acting as if you've played with the changes already. I understand you don't like change but looking for the negatives in every thing is not the way to go. Also we have no idea how the killers will be played with The End Game Collapse, only time will tell.
No, he is indeed garbage now I'm sorry you're wrong. I just wrote an essay on why he will be abysmal if you want to argue this point.
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Hey guy's, I heard we wanted a new tier to make fun of how garbage something is. I give you the "L Tier". He's just another M1 killer now, he has no real tools to apply more than 4 pounds of pressure, if you run Iron Will you have nothing to worry about from Legion because hurr durr no mend drain in massive 32 meter terror radius (no reason to increase it, if it stayed at 24 this would have been the answer to moonwalking). No blood during frenzy is fine, increasing the recharge time and duration is fine, harder to frenzy down over and over but this makes it easier to hit more than one person. One miss and your done is complete garbage specifically if you play Console it's why you almost never see Nurse on there because the hit reg is unoptimized trash. Frenzy speed reduction with more recovery is just icing on the pain cake. You know a killer is gonna be complete garbage when even survivor mains are asking for you NOT to go this far. For all you shi***s cheering the death of Legion 2 things are gonna come of this change, more bs killers are gonna be used/even more Frank's mixtape because that wasn't touched of all things, and people are gonna just straight quit till they rebuff him.