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I like it I just hate as killer or survivor when I don't have any perks when the match starts.
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this happen to me on killer twice one time was my main but i had no perks in Chaos Shuffle.
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thanks
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hope we get are BP soon.
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what the point of this change? like really…..
yellow one being basekit is ok but are they really getting rid of ebony and green mori? and so why?
edit and with the yellow mori is normally never gets used when is play so mori going to be hard with out a perk,they better change that dam daily kill with your own hand.
dumb change.
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happen to me too
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@Aven_Fallen said:
I dont think so. You are still broken, so you are still making it easier for the Killer to down you. The Buff was needed, but I dont really think it will be enough of a Buff that makes the Perk worth using.
(But on the other hand, I think it would need to be buffed to be absolutely broken to be worth using, so I dont really see this Perk in a good and strong Spot while still being healthy anyway)
is it buff enough to stop the bully for using the dam perk?
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I say no or hell no he can be pretty overwhelming with his shock.
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@jesterkind said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3712094#Comment_3712094
Why are you eating DS? You do not have to pick up a survivor you know has been recently unhooked.
Slug them, and go keep chasing that injured survivor. They get a protection hit's worth of distance, and in exchange, you're occupying two survivors at once. That's to your benefit.
Yes, denying hooks is very strong. DS cannot be used to deny hooks unless the killer is tunnelling, because it can't be weaponised in the way that people are talking about it being weaponised. You never have to take the bait, you never have to eat DS.
DS can be used to deny hooks
1 I'm chasing an injured survivor and I'm about to down them but another injured survivor comes who just got off hook I hit them (BT basekit endurance) they continue to bodyblock (because they know they safe with DS) and get downed but I can't hook them(DS) I have to start new chase with the injured survivor I was chasing before who may have got healed after hitting the DS user twice.(see if I downed the one I was chasing I could of hooked them)
that's deny hooks and wasting time the killer does not have.
here one for weaponise DS
I'm chasing an injured survivor and I'm about to down them but another injured survivor comes who just got off hook I hit them (BT basekit endurance) they continue to bodyblock (because they know they safe with DS) and get downed but I can't hook them(DS)
now I'm in chase with injured survivor again ds user slugged I finally down injured survivor but slugged ds user crawled right on top of the survivor I just down now it a gamble when I pick up will I pick the survivor I just downed or the DS user.
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@jesterkind said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3711965#Comment_3711965
See, you've missed a step here and it's part of what baffles me about this conversation.
So, you lay out that they can bodyblock with unhook Endurance and force the killer to hit them. Solid, I'm with you so far. You say that they can then continue for a second hit, which I think is starting to stretch things a little but they can do that, so alright, I'm with you.
Then you skip straight to the killer eating DS and doubling down to tunnel them, which raises the really extremely pressing question of "why did the killer pick them up". Surely anyone in their right mind is going to realise a survivor that willingly went down like that has DS, right? So you'd just… not pick them up and continue to chase whoever you were actually focusing on, thus occupying two survivors for the price of one chase.
think it also because they can have unbreakable with they can get back up everything the killer does waste they time as 2 or 3 survivors are on gens.
every hit wastes time so if the killer got to hit the same survivor 3 or 4 time that pretty much 4 gens with out trying.
also the whole weaponise DS is normally with lockers.
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it reaally getting bad needs a fix like yesterday….
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I just want it to break when a survivor dies.
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@Neaxolotl said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3707701#Comment_3707701
But I assume incentives take that into account, weird huh
you think but how it don't.
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don't know but it happens to me a lot survivor match with 100% incentives takes me like 6 to 7 min when killers matching instant.
maybe because we only need 1 killer for 4 survivors
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@rysm said:
Seconded. I'm on PS5 and lots of rubber banding, getting pulled back and juttering when running.
same.
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@ohheyitsbobcat said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3706240#Comment_3706240
In case you missed my comment, it is not exclusive. I was able to get it on console.
no I didn't thanks.
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@NotAnotherDoctor said:
Yeah and for some reason it's exclusive to steam?? Another slap in the face to console players =D
well that suck…
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300k BP it the same for everyone.
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@Ebonbane2000 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3705137#Comment_3705137
So you're advocating for Invocation AND you don't like Batman?
your cute.
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@SignedUp4PTBFeedback said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3704260#Comment_3704260
So your intent here, is to grief people on purpose with this perk, but it won't be "actually" griefing since you're "just using a perk as intended" and then report people who grief you back for it. Basically baiting or entrapping people into grief scenarios.
Interesting that you would admit to this on the forums especially after everything you read on the thread, but, good luck with that I suppose, doing your part in justifying the lamentations for solo q these days I guess.you know I may not do it tho I change my perks a lot anyway
I just hate people taking matters into they own hands you know what they call people like that in real life vigilantes.
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@Ebonbane2000 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3704334#Comment_3704334
What I'm getting at is we all have things about this game that frustrates us (especially in soloQ). But at the end of the day, we need to be considerate of the others we are playing with (killer and survivor). But we've gotten into this toxic frame of mind that "my fun is all that matters". While this may work well for killers (until endgame chat or an SWF bully squad comes along), survivors have to be more mindful of not ruining the game for the other survivors.
Just because you are within the rules while being inconsiderate, doesn't make it any less inconsiderate. These people are the same ones that come running back to the forums complaining about having to finish the game with 3 bots.
I have played this game since Jan 2017 (off and on), and I think this is the most selfish I've seen the community. Entering a multiplayer game thinking you have no obligations to the other four players...this explains why we have so many DCs and hook suicides.
say what you want been play since 2018 and I can say this
this game can and will bring the worst out of people.
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there no bad or good at the game some people going have a lot of bad games and goods games but the game is a buggy mess with Messed up MMR when you add what map or item perks add on used the game becomes a coin flip
on top of all the there what killer is used on map ( like some maps are good for some killers and bad for others or vice versa)or these all solo or some swf if not all swf.
still gos like this
SWF>Killer>SOLO
so yea killer is a little easier but if you get a swf group 2/2.2/3.solo/4 or 4 Solo that work like there swf group then a lot of killers are in trouble in that match.
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@Ebonbane2000 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3704325#Comment_3704325
But you are literally talking about trolling and griefing others, as you scold them for trolling and griefing. Are you a Dev in disguise?
no I'm am not,the different is what I'm doing is not breaking any rules if no one does anything to me no harm but I'm be doing it to make a point.
point being we all paid for this game so we all can play how we want that means we can bring whatever perks we want bad/good/meta who cares.
we also can play how we want by doing totems/checking chest another thing people get grief for it needs to stop.
in the end of the day remember this is a video game and people take it to seriously
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@Ebonbane2000 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3704260#Comment_3704260
I don't think intentional trolling with the intent to get people banned is the answer here. Fixing the perk that is leading to all of this drama (or kill switching that perk) needs to happen soon.
Although, letting survivors see each others loadouts is an even better fix. Then people who take issue with the perk can get back in the queue and those who don't mind the perk can know to get to the basement and help speed Invocation up.
well I'm sorry but people like that should be banned people don't have the right to Troll and Grief someone for perks they bring how they play or anything.
same go's for the “police” other teammates who kobe/SoH
not the players place to punish other players for anything that's the dev job
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@SignedUp4PTBFeedback said:
The current rendition of the perk is, simply put, a griefing perk, even if you don't really intend for it to be that way. Some people in solo q will decide to grief you back when they see you use this perk. If you really want to use the perk for some reason, I recommend getting in a SWF with people that are okay with having a 2 minute absent teammate that will come out permanently wounded later. Otherwise, you will continue having these experiences and will more lose more of your matches than if you didn't use this perk.
all these post make me want to run the perk and record every match and het a lot of bratty survivors banned.
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@Xernoton said:
Last second switchers are usually associated with bad intentions. After all, this is what many bully squads do so the killer won't dodge the lobby.
I don't defend the killer for closing their game but this might be the reason.
they also do it so the killer don't have time to switch in lightborn.
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@UndeddJester said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3704078#Comment_3704078
Trying to kobe is different to SoH, and is the reason why players trying to SoH cannot be punished by BHVR for doing it, even though it is against the rules as written.
If you're trying to kobe, I have no immediate issue with it, its part of the game and is sensible sometimes in pursuit of winning the game... however I am not in your games so I can't read the room, I can only go off what you tell and show me. From the sounds of it you try to kobe often, and if you're being griefed regularly it is likely because you attempt kobes in not in very good scenarios that make sense.
I'm not defending players who do grief you, but I'm sure you understand that your actions affect everyone else in game. I can not possibly know, but if you regularly attempt kobes in your games you will tend to look like a player trying to SoH, and even if you aren't, you are making a scenario where your team has to carry you due to you unnecessarily attempting kobes until you go to second stage. If all of this is true, then this is why you're getting griefed, because you are actively hindering other people, and drastically decreasing their chances of survival. Just to remind you "Helping the Killer" is against the rules.
So I'm not psychic, I can't know how your games go for to result in you being griefed... but from how you've described it thus far, it sounds like you have a tendency to betray your team and throw them into a much more difficult game for the sake of your own enjoyment.... so I can't exactly say you're an innocent being griefed for no reason.
remember they got in trouble not me.
also I hate when people on hook have to sit do nothing as other survivors are doing gens doing thing(getting points) as it is getting nothing.
also I hate hindering other people because I try kobe sometimes but hindering others mean I'm just another body the killer can tunnel and camp if the survivors come for me at all I got to 2nd stage by just sitting there too you know as the other 3 are all on gens.
here a match I had I stay on hook didn't try to kobe ( first hook) and got to 2nd stage but 3 to 4 gens got done killer was not camping soon as someone came for me 1 gen remained so yes the killer tunneled me but with there being 1 gen I could blame them I blame the survivors there all got out but not me.
so I stay on hook that whole time just to be tunneled out going to have crappy score/points and depip(glad there going away).
now you think that was fun for me? or fair? I got nothing for being on that hook that whole time I was just another body to waste the killers time so they could get out I got nothing.
so why should I care if I kobe or as I do sometime SoH because it not against the rules and if they not coming to get me f them.
but in the end this just a video game,video game so random and rig and full of bugs no one should take this game seriously.
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@The_Krapper said:
It's because most console players use a controller it takes a long time to type anything of value on the chat and by then they're most likely gone. I do believe you should be able to have the option though and maybe a quick menu for basic responses
basic responses would be ok but I'm glad console players don't have it.
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most m1 killers play for fun like me I love michael myers why I started playing and jump scare myers is best on the game.
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@UndeddJester said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3703460#Comment_3703460
shrug
I'm not really coming down on a side, you keep acting like I'm saying people should grief, when I'm not. I have simply stated my own morals on which one I consider worse, and I choose the one that griefs the most players as a byproduct of being selfish, over the one that griefs a single player, almost always in response to said provocation. Just because unhook griefing is enforced and SoH isn't, doesn't mean I have to agree that SoH is part of the game and therefore a morally superior action for a player to take.
Suicide on Hook is against rules as written, but it can't be enforced and this is the crux of the problem. BHVR have said they have tried to think of ways to prevent it, but there is no way they can realistically enforce it due to the inability to be 100% certain of intent in a game review context. Trying to claim that Suicide on Hook is somehow more acceptable just because it isn't a rule that can be enforced and thus is technically "legal" is equally as weird a hill to die on.
From what you've said before, we both agree that the unhook lock was a bad feature that ruined genuine gameplay. My point is why even try to fix this issue and enforce the rules on that action in the first place, when it is almost always done in response to the rule you can't enforce?
I would assert that the problem isn't even one that needs to be fixed, because anyone trying to SoH doesn't get to complain about being griefed, while in the process of griefing everyone else on their team. It's like a hacker hacking another hacker... why would I condemn them for doing it? You're going to have to come up with a much better argument than "it's against the rules" to justify SoH players as being someone that needs to be protected from griefing.
hope you know that I got a in game griefing report saying they took care of it(what they do I don't know don't care) other the player that grief me and I never been banned.
so in other word he got in trouble not me.
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@MaddieMage said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3703441#Comment_3703441
You can feel how you feel about it but coming down for the side that’s actually breaking the rules as opposed to the one who isn’t is a weird hill to die on.
Especially since the one griefing is also ruining the game by taking yourself away from helping the other two teammates just to take your anger out on someone else behind a screen who isn’t playing the way you want.
yea you see my video? person griefing me the other on hook and other first hook but kept griefing till she got downed.
so what I learn from this?
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@UndeddJester or anyone wondering
there been times I have try to kobe got to 2nd stage no one try grief me I still do gens,totems heal/save people from hook safely still got out sometimes and yes sometime because I'm on death hook I don't always make it out that ok but at least if I get off the hook with out being grief-ed I do my part and two or three get out sometime not me that's ok because I don't care I'm having fun and I don't play how others want me to play.
in the end it's a video game people need to stop taking it seriously.
also I don't always try to kobe only sometimes depends whats going on in game at the time maybe 1 out of 8 games.
so like @CrackedShevaMain said no one got the right to “police” other survivors not just for trying to kobe/SoH but like how a survivor plays,what perks they use whatever survivors/killers don't have any right to tell someone how they should or should not play
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@UndeddJester said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3703204#Comment_3703204
The reason I assumed you were being sarcastic is the obvious response to "I try to get off hook all the time" is:
Why do you do this? Are you trying to kobe? Or are you trying to Suicide on Hook?
If you are trying to kobe, are you running Slippery Meat, Up the Ante and Vigo's Jar of Salty Lips? If not, the reason you are getting griefed is because you are throwing the game each time and looking like you're trying to execute yourself and screwing over the rest of the team.
As I've said before, I don't support people griefing other people... but I also am not going to defend someone who is antagonising people into doing it.
reason I try to kobe is because I can not going to play in a way other want me to play if I get to 2nd stage oh well .reason I try if other just going to sit on gens as I sit on hook that what I'm going to do.
I don't play this game for others also btw this not an esport game no matter how many want it to be it a horror themed party game,it why dev try make it easier for solo not SWF and Killers because it a 4 vs 1 game tho how other have said feels more like a 1v1v1v1v1 game how survivors play take the game so seriously.
in the end of the day we all need to remember this is game video game to play be silly if we want why events are so fun.
well some events not all.
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@MaddieMage said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3703162#Comment_3703162
Here’s the thing. While I’m NOT advocating for SoH at all as it’s screwed me many many times, who are you/other survs to decide that it’s your job or right to “police” other survivors in the match? I think that’s a huge indicator of egotistical thinking, control issues and power tripping to decide “Nope you’re not leaving this match unless you do it MY way or I allow you to, otherwise I’m going to break the rules and grief you.”
- Griefing is against the rules full stop.
- You will never ever force someone to stay in a match that they’ve decided they no longer want to be in. You don’t have that control or power to “allow” (your words) or disallow anyone to do anything and that’s just the nature of video games. If they want out/no longer want to play they won’t and you’re not going to force them to otherwise. Most people will just tab out and go do something else until it’s over despite your griefing.
- Whats funny is the time you’re talking about spending griefing/“punishing” someone on hook is time you could be spending on gens or helping your other teammates. This is exactly why when I see someone trying to SoH, I will not go for the save. They’ve shown me that they’re not going to be a helpful or valuable team member so my time is better spent finishing that gen, cleansing that hex totem, healing that other teammate. So while you’re claiming that the SoH teammate is the one ruining the match for everyone, you’re also failing to contribute to the match in any meaningful way by wasting your time griefing another player out of spite, meaning you are being just as useless and not helpful as the teammate trying to get out of the match. 😆
While I’m glad this change was reverted as it did punish normal gameplay, a tool for griefing should not stay in a match simply for the purpose of helping teammates “police” other teammates by griefing them in hook. Thats just silly and all that’s gonna do is get the “police officer” banned for breaking game rules. My advice to people who think this way: Get over yourselves and go contribute to the match yourself.thank you your better with words then I am.
- Griefing is against the rules full stop.
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@UndeddJester said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3703204#Comment_3703204
Not sure if sarcasm… I think it's sarcasm… in which case… v funny 🤣😅
nope it happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0SDGNp5Axkwhat sounds sarcasm? that it happen or me trying you people need to stop taking matter in they own hands when a player does something they don't like or think is a against the rules which trying unhook are self's is not against the rules.
I will keep recording/reporting ever time this happens so either let me go report me for letting go (SoH is not reportable) or unhook me so I can try to do some gens so others can get out but don't throw the game to teach me a lesson becuasse that just get you recorded/reported by me I'm sure not the only one who does this.
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@UndeddJester said:
SIgh, yeah this one was a shame. I'm usually more lenient on the game developers sides, but this one was bad change. It hurts genuine gameplay for the sake of a very small nubmer of bad actors…
Even the label of "bad actors" is questionable.
I'm not advocating for griefing, but what's really frustrating is this "grief" was not prevelant at all, and the only times I've ever even seen it was in response to a player trying to SoH and get out of the game. If you unhook them they just run straight to killer and try to kill themselves again. This was the only mechanism survivors have to try and force a player to either DC and give us a bot, or stop screwing around and actually play, cause they are made clear they won't be allowed to SoH, and will be forced to sit in the game as long as possible.
This is basically a buff to facilitate SoH…. which BHVR have said they have no ideas for dealing with SoH players…. so since you can't reasonably solve the issue, why not leave the rest of us with a policing tool to help prevent it ourselves?
Edit: Correcttion. Peantis confirmed this is being removed too!
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3703126#Comment_3703126
Nice! 😁
dude I try get off the hook all the time get to 2nd stage but if I see someone coming I try hold on( hitting the skill checks) and really try not to get hooked again but sometime after holding on they start doing that repeating the unhook action on me not going to dc to plz anyone especially bratty nerds.
one time I try unhook myself got to 2nd stage a survivor started repeating the unhook action so I started recording they kept doing it till the killer down the survivor he was chasing then down the survivor doing unhook action,lets say I feel the one griefing me messed up the game more the me trying unhook myself.
anyways I reported them and I ingame report they took care of it
I hate to do that but survivors need to stop taking action on players doing thing they don't like….
they not video game cops they need to stop.
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@Nerfpopalready said:
I mean if you wanna use invocation no offense but do it in. A swf and don’t ruin randoms games and giving the killer free pressure…
free pressure? for use that perk? the one trolling and-griefing is giving free pressure to the killer because not only can the killer get the one using invocation but also the one tell where the survivor is to the killer
now that two on hook in basement now who to blame?
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going start running invocation in every match now and record it every time maybe I get few people banned who shouldn't be playing this game anyway.
btw the perk is bad dev need to change it but no one got the right to treat people this way for running a perk the dev made.
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no matter if you play killer or survivor when one side has a broken combo of some kind they want to keep it like flashbang+BGP and FTP+buckle up and yes there broken.the different is killer don't keep broken thing for long like gen regression perks combos and starstruck nurse but I know they needed to go so does Flashbang+BGP and FTP+Buckle up.
anyone who say tho combo are fine either don't play killer or care about the killer have a good time.
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just make a fatal frame chapter.
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the gens have limits on killer kicking them now also he got a cool down on his TP power.
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@Xernoton said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3697747#Comment_3697747
It was a joke. Only about 3 people in the entire world can hit those. It's stupid, that this achievement is so hard to get on console and it honestly doesn't make much sense because it's arguably even harder to aim with a controller.
yea and easier on pc for some reason tho even 20 is hard.
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bodyblocking when you just got off the hook your asking to be tunneled.
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@Xernoton said:
Skill issue. Just hit those orbital strikes, baby killer.
you don't have to be like that but this is dbd so keep it up I guess…
also I don't main her and like to see you do with out fail.
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@ohheyitsbobcat said:
I think they have to pay to get the trophies changed and even then I think it's still a pain in the ass process if the trophy is doable. You tend to only see trophies that are impossible get changed in most cases.
Also, on PS4 it reads that you only need 20. It's a mistake on their end and you still need 100 so don't get your hopes up too much but that might mean they're working on it?
i hope so but I can't even get 1 when I playing as her.
you knew ps5 show how many you need to go.
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yeah why don't we just ban people for just play killer too….
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@Mr_K said:
You don't like the scaredy cat perk?
no that's not really it I like it but wanted a change and wanted a tif avatar.
@glitchboi said:
I think they hit the limit sadly. I remember when they temporarily pause adding new avatars after All-Kill, think they took away some of the more underused perk icons iirc to add character icons after Yun-Jin and Trickster.
that sucks oh well thanks.
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just people being children even when they not children.
you know that kid who say something to someone then runs away(haha you can't get me) like that.
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people want all killer nerfed.
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@solarjin1 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3692981#Comment_3692981
no where. The one million is for pain and suffering from not playing the ptb!
so there a chance no 1m bp,also pain and suffering? I sometime feel we get pain and suffering just for playing.lol