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I got hooked and camped here intentionally - the killer hooked me and then stood at the top of the stairs (out of AFC range) and there was literally nothing our team could do.

in Blockable hook on hawkins Comment by Babz November 11, 2023

@Peanits said:
On the chances of the maps appearing more often: This isn't actually the case. We can control how often certain maps appear. In cases like this, maps with multiple variations have lowered chances.
For example, Suffocation Pit I or Suffocation Pit II have half the chance to appear as any other map on their own, but you're just as likely to be sent to one of the Suffocation Pit maps as any other map.

Waittt maybe you could have something Suffocation Pit - Day and Suffocation Pit - Night I feel like that could be kinda cool

in Realistically, do we need 10 Macmillan maps? Comment by Babz September 19, 2023

@Batusalen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3527466#Comment_3527466
With all due respect, when have you released a mechanic to "solve survivor's gameplay problems that already have a gameplay solution" that wasn't "hand holdy"? In fact, let's ask the killers reading this: How many times have you being denied of your end game 1K because the basekit BT protection prevented you to down anybody? And I doubt that I have to remember a member of the dev team what happened everytime you even tried to implement mechanics like this: Survivors abused it to get an advantage. How is all this no "hand holdy" when they allow survivor to win games they shouldn't? Because if a survivor should be dead and he isn't because a game mechanic prevents it, then it is hand holding him. And yes, thank god many of those thing wasn't released past the PTB (yet), but that doesn't change that you invested developing time in them.
This would not be a problem if, again, there wasn't already gameplay solutions for things like this: Coordinating bodyblocks to go for the save, doing the gens in a way that don't let the killer have 3 close by gens at the end (something that has happened to me, while I never defended 3 gens since the start of the game, and I have being accused of "3genning" anyways), etc. But survivors refuse to adapt and learn how to counter those things, so they complain and Papa BHVR comes up with another mechanic to make their life easier while making SWF with voicecomms stronger and M1 killers even less viable. Again, this is like a soccer team complaining is so boring and hard playing against teams using defensive tactics and the FIFA saying "Well, nobody can use a 5-4-1 formation against this team anymore".
And don't get me wrong, I'm the first one that hope you announce whatever you have in mind to solve 3genning and it is so fair and balanced you can shut my mouth up and make me swallow my words, but I'm just looking at the past facts, including the new "anti-camping" mechanic than even in paper already sounds abusable.
And about the "loyalty to one side" and the "us vs them" situation: When was the last time a member of the dev team or even a moderator have come to this forum to say to the killer community "Don't worry guys, we hear you and we are working in solving it"? Because I don't remember seeing it a single time. I have seen devs saying something multiple times in post like this one and others about camping, tunneling, 3genning, slugging... never in a post about the "overly powerful or frustrating gameplay" killers face. Are there any QoL improvements for killers coming? Something about haste stacking to the point of survivors being faster than killers in the works? About the amount of Endurance perks you implemented that are allowing even a new bully strategy when paired with Power Struggle? About M1 killers not being able to compete? Anything? Or we have to just wait for you to decide to solve any of those things 2 years from now and be grateful of the pleasant surprise?
Based on this, can we say that you are the ones only caring about the "fun and 'balance'" of survivors and not nearly enough about the experiences killers have playing the game? Because I think that I have addressed the problem in my other post: It's true that some killers can use those strategies so efficiently that makes it hard to counter them. So, nerf those killers. Rework Skull Merchant so she can't defend 3 gens at the start of the game and make it impossible to break it, change Bubba's power so he can't instadown someone with his chainsaw near a hook to prevent him from camping without allowing survivors to do a rescue. Refactor the map generator so it doesn't spawn 3 gens close by in an straight line.
Whatever it takes to "balance the fun" (for both sides, if you don't mind). But for the love of The Entity, don't add another general killer nerf in form of a mechanic to the game for the sole reason of survivors wanting to just do gens without having to put any thought in it when it's their work to not let it happen. Because then, it would end being another hand holding advantage for them by design, and another reason to get frustrated as a killer as you aren't getting outsmarted by survivors playing good, you are being outsmarted by the mechanics of the game.

'Denied of your endgame 1k' is not really a fair way to phrase it - firstly considering the fact that you're reached endgame with no kills in the first place and secondly because you cannot get a kill without tunnelling and camping one survivor out; since according to your logic the only way to get an endgame kill is through bypassing the 'basekit BT protection' to tunnel and kill one survivor. Just because you are a killer player this does not mean you deserve a kill and this mentality is exactly why the basekit BT was added in the first place; to actually give individual survivors a chance to escape killers to solely want to kill them and no one else.

Perhaps survivors still have abusable mechanics in this game which need fixing, but to act like the devs have not already tried to fix potentially unfavourable mechanics that act against killer players is rather derogatory and rude. I will list some of the buffs killers have received:

Dead Hard nerf
Generator time increase to 90 seconds
Medkit nerfs
Hit recovery time decrease
Pallet/generator/wall destruction time decrease
Endurance non-stacking effect, removal with conspicuous actions
Decisive strike/Off the record removal in endgame
2.5% instant damage when kicking generators

Yes there are problems in this game, I agree. However, you must understand that if this game becomes anywhere near completely 'balanced', e.g. the removal of survivor strategies with perks (as you mentioned) or the concept all killers [m1 or not] having equal chances to win, this game would be so, so boring. Dead By Daylight is not built to be a balanced game, therefore this concept of being 'outsmarted by the mechanics of the game' has always applied to both killer and survivor and always probably will. Here are some examples of this in survivor:

Getting hit through a window when the hit doesn't appear to connect
Running into a dead zone that simply exists because of RNG
Simply no option to make a 4-man escape against a basement Bubba due to his ability to camp with no downside

and for killer:

Unnecessarily large maps with generators almost impossible to patrol
Unplayable loop setups that make chasing feel arduous rather than fun

& many more on both sides. The point is, Dead By Daylight is not, and was not created as a balanced game and therefore often the game itself can feel like it is against you.

The devs are adding these mechanics (such as basekit BT etc) because they want to make Dead By Daylight into the game it is meant to be. Dead By Daylight is meant to be a thrilling game where the killer traverses the map hunting 4 survivors, not a game where a killer hunts and camps one particular survivor to get one kill. At this moment in time, I agree that the playstyle of NOT camping/tunnelling may be really punishing and you may feel forced to do so due to genrushing/too many pallets/overpowered loops etc... but until the devs remove the effortless nature of camping and tunnelling, they cannot nerf said genrushing/too many pallets/overpowered loops because that would simply make camping and tunnelling more powerful, oppressive and potentially drive most of the survivor playerbase away from the game.

It is actually a concrete fact that killer has received more buffs over the past year than survivor, so I would appreciate if you possibly understood that yes these developers ARE listening to you and are trying!! But until they add/alter mechanics to sort out the large CURRENT problems in the survivor/killer experience right now, they cannot progress to an overall better game. Although some mechanics that the devs add may currently feel punishing and abusable, they are often added with consideration to a larger plan that hopes to change the macro-level gameplay experience that perfects the fine line of Dead By Daylight being 'party game' that still offers competitive intensity/payoff.

in 3 GEN 3 GEN 3 GEN Comment by Babz August 30, 2023

@KayTwoAyy said:
Best of luck with content creation, should you to continue to follow that passion!
I've a friend with over 200k subs on Youtube, continuing to upload Fortnite content, despite losing his passion for the game long ago.
You're making the right call here. You'll be happier for it in the long run.
I uninstalled the game this morning, so I'll be joining you in this leave.
Cheers

Thanks man, hope you enjoy it too <3

@[Deleted User] said:
I am a killer main with 6k hours in the game. I don't play much survivor but I do understand how toxic Dead by Dayligh is now.
I even have a reply from someone that looks like:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/M3OIR4RVMJJA/image.png
It's on both sides and it's really bad nowadays especially at the highest levels but not only. You may get mad quickly.
I must mention that I also dislike the number of people trying to mock the main poster by saying stuff like "You don't have to announce your departure" "Thanks for the annoucement", it makes me think like you don't care about some people of this community and instead of showing empathy to people having a bad time you couldn't care less. Even though you may be joking, I don't believe the main poster takes it the same way and you are also not contributing with help.
Anyhow brother, take it good, keep yourself cool and you are welcomed back. Remember DbD is a good game, don't let yourself stressed by the rest. Much love and take care

This is really lovely, thanks for being so understanding. Even though I wrote this post with a bit of frustration, I agree that rather than posting snarky, unnecessary replies; actually contributing to the discussion is a lot more helpful. I subscribed to your YouTube <3

@KajdanKi said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/347163/im-leaving
Its funny how some Andy with some tik tok channel want to be felt important so he is making a good bye post. If you dont like it just go, or are you doing some pr crap to get more likes?

It appears some people here struggle to read. I mentioned the TikTok as an example of how much time I had invested in this game and its content. 15k likes doesn't just come out of nowhere; it takes time and effort to build up content and quality.

@foxsansbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3195844#Comment_3195844
No, we both have a user history that is starkly different.
Yours plays out like you live in a fantasy world. Surprisingly, that fantasy world clearly isn't DBD either.

what

in I'm leaving Comment by Babz September 22, 2022

@LittleBigSunset said:
I envy you for getting out at 2k hours. I've sunk more than 5k hours into DBD and can't seem to give it up, even when more than half the games I play leave a bitter taste in my mouth. I don't play it anywhere near as regularly as I used to though.
I even made a post quite similar to yours around the drop of the mid-chapter update. Got the same kind of boring responses too (ok, bye, who cares lmao). Ignore them. You've got every right to express your opinion on the state of the game (on the DBD forum, no less) and highlighting that it's caused you to quit can help to bring attention to the problem. There's a reason why posts like these seem to get so much attention.
Breaks always do me good when a game seems to burn me out. Give the game a try again when the next update drops or later. Maybe then it'll have the same spark that drew you into the game in the first place. Or you could give it up altogether and probably save yourself any future trouble. All the best anyway.

I appreciate this, thank you and I wish you the best too :) If you struggle to leave the game, don't stress it and instead just try and make the game a better place when you do play.

@sonata93 said:
I fully sympathize with everything you're saying, but I think both sides feel this way.
This game is currently stuck in a really vicious cycle. All it takes is for a killer to verse a really toxic SWF with toolboxes, spare parts, and map offerings to get frustrated and then take it out on other survivors. Conversely, all a survivor needs to do is play solo-queue and verse a really sweaty Nurse that slugs for them to feel disillusioned and take it out on the next killer. The issue is that whilst this isn't supposed to be a competitive game, most of the player base treats it as a competitive game. You only have to look at perk choices - despite the big 'meta shift' back in July, killers are still running gen regression/slow down meta, and survivors still favor second chance perks - this is because running these perks help them 'win'. I experience this a lot when playing solo-queue, I love to run fun, gimmicky builds but 9/10 times it gets me killed because the perks aren't powerful enough to verse the current killer meta, so I end up reverting back to the same old boring perks. Same with playing killer, you try and run some fun and underused perks, but you just get gen-rushed and teabagged at the exit gate. Both sides have glaring issues which I think stem down mostly to MMR.
Sorry to see you go, anyway! Hopefully there will be some positive changes in the game which will make you want to return.

This is really true; great point. I feel like toxic players cause a vicious cycle that aggravates both sides, and unfortunately ends up clashing with players who just want to chill and have fun.

I can especially sympathise with killers here since being ganged up on by 4 toxic survivors feels really punishing.

in I'm leaving Comment by Babz September 19, 2022

@EvilSerje said:
I absolutly understand what you are saying. Playing survivor is a complete hell. I don't know how long I could do this, because I feel burned out too, but I just want to finish that stupid survivor achievements (spoiler: didn't get any progress in a MONTH!)
Would never want to play survivor deliberately. I still don't understand why make killer so easy and survivor so impossible (I'm 1300h myself). Of course on this form lots of explanation like "git gud useless clown", but I don't know how more good I could be as I don't learn anything from any match. 10-30 seconds chase, hook, 10-30 sec chase, hook (if killer don't tunnel camp).
I still believe that all those idiots with insults never played survivor for obvious reasons, because if I am hopeless trash, it's unlikely that hundreds and hundreds of other people that matched with me are brain dead too. I cannot believe it.

Honestly agree.

I mainly don't understand why some reply to these complaints with things like 'ok?' that contribute nothing to the overall point we are trying to make. It's not us trying to make survivor an 'ez' experience, but more trying to understand why the majority of killers are tunnelling, slugging until bleed out, bming etc; trying to make the survivor experience as miserable as possible.

Survivor is already hard enough without proper communication, and I have always played more solo Q than swf so it directly affects players like me. I understand that SWF groups have massive winstreaks; perhaps that is something that needs to be addressed as well. But solo Q players recently seem to be struggling to get any wins at all (neither have any fun); and that's the situation I am trying to bring light to, since it literally made me leave the game.

in I'm leaving Comment by Babz September 19, 2022

@pseudechis said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3195255#Comment_3195255
I learned a long time ago never come to the forums if frustrated with a string of bad games. It just leads to a rant.
I’ve done it myself before.
But it’s it only a game in the end, the decision to stop playing really isn’t a major lifestyle choice.
Play something else for a bit and if they change dbd in a way you like then come back and play it some more. That’s all there is to it.
After thousands of hours in game it’s not really a revelation to think “hey I’m tired of this let’s try something else.”

ok thanks, no need to be sarcastic :)

in I'm leaving Comment by Babz September 19, 2022

@pseudechis said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3194025#Comment_3194025
Stop right there buddy my fun is the responsibility of everyone else!
It’s one thing to say I’m not a fan of X I’m taking a break but an essay of melodrama phew.
Why do they always announce their hours played and/or followers as if it makes them important to the game?
It’s almost a weird type of quitters narcissism.

Apologies if it came off like this - the reason I said the followers etc was to make it clear how much effort and time I had spent on things involving this game. I did also write this post when I was quite stressed and tired with the state of the game, perhaps why it comes off as 'melodramatic'.

in I'm leaving Comment by Babz September 19, 2022

@Shroompy said:
Hi leaving
Im Shroompy :)

hi :)

in I'm leaving Comment by Babz September 18, 2022

@LeFennecFox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3193400#Comment_3193400
What is there to discuss? Person goes on a rant flexing their 15k tiktok likes (😮), states that killers bm and 4k when you have 2-3 useless teammates, and complains about tunneling. All things/topics that have been obvious gameplay issues for years and recited many times.

I'm not flexing, the point of saying that was to show my dedication to this game and the social media accounts I have created for it. You don't just earn 15k likes in one day; you have to post regularly etc etc. It sounds like you like to 'rant' a lot more than I do with this type of useless response.

in I'm leaving Comment by Babz September 18, 2022

@Gamedozer7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3174534#Comment_3174534
The point he's making is its like a basekit spirit vs a MDR spirit. One you have plenty of time to hear he make the corner and move but if she has MDR boom she's there already.

thanks for clearing that up <3

in Gen Times - WARNING OTZ VIDEO WARNING - THERE IS AN OTZ VIDEO IN THIS LINK - THIS LINK HAS OTZ Comment by Babz September 6, 2022

@sizzlingmario4 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3174534#Comment_3174534
MDR and alch ring need nerfs too. This goes both ways.
Iri tape is fine for now only because sadako is bad. When they buff her (which they should) that addon could get a nerf as well.

I understand that, but realistically this is looking at the game with a viewpoint that everything must be of perfect balance. DBD is not that type of game and will never be that way, so I don't understand these repetitive nerfs to survivor when killer is staying relatively in the same spot (or being buffed), especially when solo q is really hard these days. I don't often swf tbh so that's my point of view, but perhaps a person who swfs more often may view the matter differently.

in Gen Times - WARNING OTZ VIDEO WARNING - THERE IS AN OTZ VIDEO IN THIS LINK - THIS LINK HAS OTZ Comment by Babz September 6, 2022

I dont think toolboxes need a nerf - survivor feels extremely punishing (at least solo q) already. Maybe perks that affect gen speeds could be changed, but if killers have access to addons that can really buff their kit (mdr, alc ring, iri tape etc) why shouldn't survivors be able to bring something that helps them out?

in Gen Times - WARNING OTZ VIDEO WARNING - THERE IS AN OTZ VIDEO IN THIS LINK - THIS LINK HAS OTZ Comment by Babz September 6, 2022

@Midori_21 said:
So apparently, after you reach a certain prestige level, lower rarity add-ons and offerings stop appearing. One of my friends just got pig to prestige 20, and the only addons he ever bothered using were combat straps and john's medical file. But now he's upset, because those add-ons are literally never appearing in his bloodwebs.
At first when he told me this my response was "PepeLaugh you didn't know the lower rarities would stop appearing lol."
But this makes me wonder, if this ends up being a problem that enough people talk about, will the devs do anything and what will they do? Often times some of the best killer add-ons are brown and yellow, and the higher rarity addons are either busted, or far weaker than the brown and yellows. So what happens if you run out of the addons you like to use, but you literally can't get any more of them because you've prestiged so many times, and the game refuses to put them in your bloodwebs?

Yeah I think this is a problem, but I'd give the devs time since they just fixed the opposite problem (not enough rare addons appearing) which loads of people were complaining about. Ultimately this is a massive update for the game and not everything can be fixed immediately. Making a game takes a lot of effort and skill, and I don't think theyre ignoring us here, but just give them a bit of time because they are working through lots of other problems/fixes at the same time. For now just try stock up on loads of rares on killers that have good rares :)

in Item rarity after prestiging Comment by Babz August 4, 2022

@roundpitt said:
Thanatophobia Rework
Each injured, dying, or hooked Survivor will now provide a 1/1.5/2% action speed penalty. If all four Survivors are either injured, dying, or hooked, Thanatophobia grants an additional 12% penalty to Survivors’ action speeds.
So after one survivor dies, the perk is nearly useless. In addition, you can only get good value with plague, legion and nurse.
I think this will mostly only be used on plague and legion though. They are kind of homogenizing perks.

Tbh I honestly dont mind it, with the killer buffs recently etc and perks like lethal, COB etc (that compliment different playstyles) I feel killer is still absolutely playable. The new thana just makes it fit more in line with being a perk to compliment a build rather than a perk to carry a killer (which is often the case)

in Latest Thanatophobia Change Comment by Babz August 2, 2022

@GannTM said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3086757#Comment_3086757
Oh I see my bad.
Yeah I agree with your take on DCB. It’s my least favorite Spirit add on for a reason. I really want strong add ons to take a lot of skill to use and this idea for DCB is perfect for that. I’m glad to hear you like my idea!

Ooh I just had an idea for a rare/uncommon:

After using phase gain Undetectable and move silently for 5 seconds.

This with Furin wouldn't be extremely strong but would be very fun

in Spirit is a popular killer again Comment by Babz July 24, 2022

@GannTM said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3086747#Comment_3086747
Perhaps if MDR gets removed then DCB won’t be as big of a problem. Still not a fan of it though.
I like the Wakazashi Saya and Mother’s Glasses changes though.

No no I meant like I love your change for dcb

Honestly as a long-time Spirit player I feel like dcb rn takes all required skill out of Spirit completely, it's just not good design at all.

Also make Katana Tsuba increase phase speed by 20% if mdr goes, I feel some speed add-on would still be nice

in Spirit is a popular killer again Comment by Babz July 24, 2022

@GannTM said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3086483#Comment_3086483
Juniper Bonsai: decrease Spirit’s movement speed by 10% and reduces her phase reappearance by 5%. Gives 100% extra bloodpoints in deviousness category. (I really want her to have a meme bloodpoint add on)
Dried Cherry Blossom: Increases reappearance duration by 0.5 seconds and reappearance movement speed by 50% when Spirit uses her whole power duration. (This would be a hard add on to get value out of but using it correctly gives a big reward, I’d compare it to Blight’s Iri Blighted Tag a bit)

I love the cherry blossom one sm tho

Wakizashi Saya: Reduces the directional phasing sound radius by 8 metres.

Mother's Glasses: Now has Wakizashi Saya previous effect and also has current effect at 4 metres instead of 2.

in Spirit is a popular killer again Comment by Babz July 24, 2022

@GannTM said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3086465#Comment_3086465
And her kit is so fun to go against and to play as. I will agree she does need changes to add ons. Mother-Daughter Ring and Dried Cherry Blossom need a complete rework, Juniper Bonsai just doesn’t have a good effect, Mother’s Glasses completely relies on Wakazashi Saya, and we need Father’s Glasses back.

omg we should make the best spirit add-on pass ever

Ill start with the iris:

Father's Glasses RETURNS

Mother Daughter Ring: Hitting a survivor with a successful post-phase attack instantly recharges 3 seconds of Yamaokas Haunting.