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@Dimek said:
Nerf Trickster he is OP
Hope all these guys who saying killer easier now as every patch are getting buffed should play the trickster as he the newest so must be the best go get adept achievement at rank 1 with him as it must be so easy lol I also love fact the start of this post is this game is so easy as killer now I win by tunneling lol this game is now easy for survivor just do gens have 1 chase and game over I wouldn't use pip system as proof of a win anyway as like u say tbf to survivor if they just do gens hide from killer won't get a pip even though they escape which kinda sucks but that's the emblem system whole issue with game is all they need to do is have a clear wind draw lose that we all see as is it pip is it how many u kill or is it points? In fairness pips for killer seem easier but not always the case, and as for kills as u see of multiple what we classas good streamers they can get 4ks main of time by tunnel or 1 hooking all fair enough tactics but not very entertaining at times but hey ho, yet if u look at points that shows who has actually worked for there points I have seen games where all survivors escape have a measley 15k bloodpoints and killer at 25+k points And vice versa that they don't escape but out point a camp killer which shows again who has done the work in that match. All behaviour need to do is make a clear point what's a win a draw or loss then players can finally see who really wins the match then we can see what's balanced and not
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@dspaceman20 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1968321#Comment_1968321
Actually I think there are steps the devs can take to minimize toxicity. They are already doing it wilt in-game chat
But they could also come out and speak out against it and say they won't tolerate it in their game.
There could also be in-game incentives to lower it. Like say one nice thing in the in-game chat and you get a certain number of bloodpoints or shards.
But ultimately they have to come mostly from the community we as a community has to take a stand against it and do what we would do in real life. If your a survivor and you see your teammate bullying the killer tell them to stop. If you see the killer being toxic speak up. I'm confident the game can be less toxic.
And to OP I would prefer a shirtless legion.
Why no topless Romero?
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@Phasmamain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1966211#Comment_1966211
I can’t condition them when there’s only three chases per game usually. Especially when she knows where you are due to pain grunts .
You can get an idea of where she is but by that point it’s too late and you’re already dead since she moves so fast in phase
Standing still can work with IW but if you don’t have it she’ll just hear you and you’re dead
I can learn what a player does but by that point I’m already dead since I don’t have enough time to make good use of it
By what ur saying pain sounds should be removed from her in phase? If that's the case then ur right won't need iron will however how did u manage to get hit off her in the first place as she doesn't hear ur grunts of pain so if she can hit u with no pain sounds likely hood they will get u anyway just like the killer see's the grass move in phase u can also track the killer by grass movements and counter also she had massive nerf by running into ppl being removed as it was so unfair let's nerf spirit more as all we want is killers who we can read and loop for days like ppl who played any killer pre nerf they adapt and get kills so maybe rather than need things nerfed all the time ppl should do less complaining of op things in game be it killer or survivor perks and adapt improve and will make the game higher skilled based
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@IronWill said:
What kind of kill rate do you want so you would finally be statisfied? According to some voices here, people seem to want to 4k legit every single match. I mean do you guys realize the othr side of the same coin wants to have fun too?
A kill rate of 100% is NOT balance! Balance would be 50/50 which means killers getting a average of 2k in most matches.
To be honest everyone has there own opinion and what some class as balance others won't regardless of what changes same with all things I guess, but for me in a game where most ppl class escaping as a win or killing all 4 as a win I put to them if the killer ends the game with 3 kills and 1 guy escapes who then has won? Is it the survivor or the killer? Let's face it it doesn't really matter for me I want to win but with this game there is no clear what is a win as is it pips or kills for me I look at the points if I'm survivor and the whole team gets killed but at the end say I have the most points as all that killer has done is camped and tunneled and teammates have been over altruistic I'd be like we'll be ain't won look at his ######### score but like every1 we all have our views but for me where there is no clear and concise win I use points as more of a realistic benchmark for who won as if I haven't done enough on either side then I have lost like I say that's just my opinion
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@ITSMEASS said:
Okay so, camping the hook its something that a lot of killers does and I think there's should be a change. So, if a killer stay in an area like 20-30 metters of the hook, it freezes, stopping the countdown. That would be fair because, most of this kind of plays ruin the fun of the players and for that, you will need to change some perks that stops the countdown. Camping will also make the killer lose, and I think putting that freeze thing, it will help killers get better and making more pressure on the map. Its my suggestion, if you don't like it don't need to "attack" me.
Just use Steve Harrington perk and be a survivor that camps close to hook then it freezes the timer while the other 2 do gen rush problem solved gens complete use bt and adrenaline pop em off hook and bam killer gets ruined so no need to change it and there is plenty of killers out there who can go a whole game without even getting a single hook should we make it if they haven't had a single hook and that the gens have popped to quick then he gets super speed boost and can walk through pallets and walls like a ghost and insta down as I feel that would make game fair for killers that can't get hooks due to gen rush don't u think? No it's a silly idea just like stopping the clock as there is plenty of ways to deal with a camp killer rush gens n camp killer is pointless really yes 1 may die but that's what can happen just like there are plenty of killers who don't camp manage to 2 hook all guys get fast downs but all escape as they have efficiently did gens even though killer has played amazing and he technically has failed at his job for me killers can camp and tunnel as much as they want just like survivors can gen rush and loop killers it's just the game and ppl should play it how they like to if they like camping let them camp they maybe find it fun I can't see why but they might just like some survivors like to gen rush and never engage a chase or those that like to clicky clicky and tebag that's what they find fun and that's fine
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@Yords said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1822774#Comment_1822774
Could you be a bit more clear with this comment please?
All I am trying to say is most players use add ons for all killers unless messing about a bit or trying to prove a point but as for the the wraith having nothing really power wise I think if you try the add ons I mentioned makes the wraith a really impressive top killer and makes it for a really fun game. I would much prefer to play as a no add on wraith to a add on Oni tbh as I am quite poor with him so I do believe everybody has a certain killers that work or don't work for them depending on a players style, level or preference but that is just my opinion like before Freddy rework I really enjoyed him and how his powers work same as Dr but I also enjoy them since there reworks so if a rework is done to improve things I'm all for it but I don't think some things need changed but as long as the game grows and improves that's all that matters
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Well if you read the post I had replied to I was agreeing with his opinion and also I appreciate the game being played in a way that it is fully intended too so those killers & survivors who go out to win well played as for the 1s who want to goof around go play kyf as that is what that mode is there for
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@Huge_Bush said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1899494#Comment_1899494
This is your opinion. Many people don't play to just "win". Lots of people play to have fun irregardless of whether they win or not. When I play killer, I love picking Doctor to harass survivors and make them scream over and over. I do it too much against potatoes sometimes and let them all go in the end. I didn't need to win anything, I just had some fun.
Same with when I play Hag. I'll get someone on the hook, and place all 10 of my traps in the path that leads to the hook just so I can hear the rescuer scream over and over. I find it funny and for making them suffer through all those traps I don't pursue them.
No one here is being entitled or on a high horse. This thread is dedicated to the killers who go out of their way to make the game enjoyable for their opponents even though they don't have to. If you were to have actually read the thread, you'd have seen my comments where I state that I don't believe anyone should judge or disparage players who choose to play the way you describe.
Perhaps you're just not good enough to be able to play in a way that is fun for everyone, and that's fine, just don't come here and try to put down others who are.
Lol you have said u find it fun to shock people over and over then let them leave I'm sure to some people that isn't fun at all so what u find fun others won't so what u think makes the game fun for others isn't true at all I'd rather u just played the game properly and I'm sure other people would feel the same I'm entitled as is everyone else including you to play how u want to play and never assume just because u goof about in a game that it makes it fun for all involved as it doesn't just like I know going all out doesn't make it fun it depends on your opponents and unless u know them then u don't know if they all found it fun and if ur telling me a game is fun because u goof about and don't care then like I say that's ur choice n hurray for u having fun but I'd rather play a killer or survivor team that plays amazing as only way players get any better is by learning and ain't going to learn nothing from someone letting people go just going to make the average player rage when they play a good player and get anhilated in the next game thus creating the whole my last killer was so fun let us go but u killed us not fair at all pfff like I say play how the heck u want but just remember u didn't buy a game for others u bought it for yourself to have fun and if others enjoy ur playstyle then great for them but No1 playstyle is for everyone look at for example tru3talent he doesn't change how he plays 1 game gets praised next game getting slagged though he hasn't changed how he plays
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@Axx said:
Sorry that some people have fun playing to win in a PvP game I guess.....? As a solo survivor player, my fun isn't more important than the killer's fun. If they want to play to win, slug, tunnel, etc, that is fine, because I will loop them and rush gens hard, aka, the survivor version of playing to win. Like, I can understand not wanting to be faced camped, because that is dumb, but this is a PvP game. If you really want more meme filled games, I would suggest finding like minded people to play KYF with. In most PvP games people play to win. DBD is actually the first PvP game that I have played in my almost 20 years of PC gaming where one side gets mad when other side plays to win.
You couldn't have put it any better I totally agree people need to get off there high entitled horse be it killer or survivor the game is PvP and whole point is to win so whatever is required to win and it's not cheating is fair game in my eyes
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@Yords said:
(Not including nurse since we all know how strong she is)
Let's just compare the Wraith and Oni's base kit (no addons) for reference.
What does the virgin Wraith have for his power?
The Wraith is a stealth killer who has a bell that he can use to cloak himself. During the cloak, the Wraith gains undetectable status effect for as long as he is cloaked. Survivors can hear the bell ringing when in a range of 24 meters away from the Wraith, they can also hear a wisping sound when in a range of 40 meters away from the Wraith...He is not fully invisible though, you can see him across the map when he is cloaked... He moves at 126% movement speed when he is cloaked, which is exactly 11% faster than he is not... It takes 3 seconds to uncloak and when you fully uncloak you gain a boost in movement speed for one second. Finally, he is fully invisible when standing still.
Now, what does the chad Oni have for his power?
The Oni is a killer whose power allows him to enter blood fury. To enter this mode, the Oni needs to fill up his power bar by sucking up blood orbs. The blood orbs are dropped from injured survivors every few seconds or when they perform most actions (being hooked, vaulting, dropping a pallet, crouching, and failing a skill check) and can be seen through walls. The oni also gains 40% of his power instantly by hitting a healthy survivor or a survivor with the endurance status effect. Once the Oni has the power bar filled up, he can choose to enter blood fury mode. This state lasts 45 seconds and allows the Oni access to two special abilities, demon dash and demon strike. Demon dash is performed by holding the secondary action button for two seconds. The Oni then begins running at a speed of 195% movement speed (Do NOT hold w when dashing because it actually slows you down, same for spamming a and d). Demon strike allows the Oni to perform demon strike which instantly puts survivors in the dying state. This can also be done during demon dash.
I think it is safe to say that there is a clear difference between different killers' powers in the game. Seriously, I wonder "Why would I ever play this guy at the high ranks?" sometimes. I still do because their concept is fun to me. Same for Clown, the idea behind the power is there it's just weak and not expanded upon.
What does Wraith have to get around the map? Nothing. His movement speed increase while cloaked is not enough. In fact, unless you are going to the complete opposite side of the map there really is no reason to cloak other than to hide from an object of obsession user. What does he have to help him catch survivors in a chase? nothing, unless you count the burst in speed when you uncloak which only helps on unsafe pallet loops.
But look at Oni, the dude has both. He has the ability to run around the map (better than billy btw) and be dangerous in a chase. He IMO, is the most balanced killer right now. You can still win against him and have 3 or 4 escapes, he is only really good if the player playing as him is skilled, and his power is a "power burst" kind of ability. This means the tides can tip fast for either side depending on who plays better or outsmarts the other person in a chase.
Even with the upcoming buffs to both Wraith and Clown, I feel like they are still going to need a bit more than just a few buffs, I mean a full-on rework. What I don't want them to be is just an average killer like Plague or Doctor in the middle tier. For Wraith idk give him some sort of passive ability I guess? Maybe every time survivors hear the bell ring they suffer from some sort of passive status effect that gets stronger as the trial goes on. Just some random thought but he will still need more than "true invisibility" and a few addons being base kit and changed. For Clown, I am clueless other than giving him different effects with his bottles.
Note: So after some thought and discussion, I have come up with the suggestion of instead of completely reworking all killers to be viable, they should instead get some buffs (not lazy ones) that are thorough and make the killer receiving said buffs to be able to be put in a mid-tier position.
I really hope that the Wraith and Clown will be given creative buffs or changes that create unique and fun gameplay.
Couldn't disagree really as u said with no add-ons however flip that and give wraith imo his 2 best add-ons the silent bell and the purple all seeing mud and u have a top tier killer can use mind games at pallets where there are clear blind spots and survivors even good ones can't anticipate what u going to do like are u unloaking or waiting to catch a better position love wraith and before all the haters say he rubbish I say try with those add-ons and u will see how fun he can be and also gets kills at the high ranks but ofc the top tier killers are immense providing u know how to use them otherwise u may aswel play billyboi
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@DeliciousFood said:
Or go out of their way to stomp 3 v 1's (One DC's straight away, quite common).
You take this silly party game way too seriously. You don't have to let anyone go, but holy ######### at least give them a game. Most of the time it'll end up being people slugged to prevent saves so you can secure your ez pz win. Queues are bad, this game is imbalanced in so many ways, please just try to make this fun for everyone, including yourself.
If your definition of fun is absolute domination of those hopelessly under you then I do think this game isn't for you. There are other competitive games that reward you for having this kind of mindset.
Also, a strange remark, but it mostly tends to be Spirits, Freddy's and Huntresses that sweat the most in these situations. Not really telling of anything but that's been my experience.
If more people played killer survivors would get games faster but people to scared to get bullied as killer so that's why que times so slow as not enough killers. also why blame try hard killer when 1 DC the reason the game turns rubbish is due to slack teammate why should killer go ok I'll take it ez now would survivors go o man we did 4 gens in sub 4mins let's now all stop doing gens let killer get us all a few times n couple of kills not going to happen so for me survivors play game how u want if u have fun gen rush or loop for days or tbag go ahead and do that and killers play how u want to play if u play any game u never play so rest have fun but u don't u play to have fun how u want to so people should do less complaining because they don't like someone's playstyle and just be like o well next game will be better
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@Komodo16 said:
So I get coal tower, so I'm like aw yeah cool I spawned by it so I'll go loot it. Hear someone open it and get sad and then blight breaks door and I vault the window not realizing he was jumping through and eventually go down. So this dwight on PC is just nice perfect tight loops and then blight misses a rush and he bt saves me, so I take a hit and then get tunneled because he couldn't get over one tiny mishap. Proceeds to suck and have me loop him on two freaking shortwall jungle gyms for 2 gens, because of his stupid pride and then somehow his rush pushes him past me and he breaks the freaking pallet that he blood lusted like a rank 20! Not only did I block his path I got tunneled whilst having two crap teammates that I'll get to later.
Then I ran to coal tower to be healed after my unhook, just to be stuck behind something cuz he could see me if I run and he downed someone, I try and run away and of course he wants me out of the game now so he tries slugging fails and I get away. I make it to shack where a gen was finished and he comes cross map, whatever I'm almost healed, but he got his too fast cool down which can be pretty unfair tbh, and so I ran and vaulted window to be downed because freaking p3 meghead cant take a hit and he had blood favor so he just picks me up and doesn't try to slug like before. So I spectate them and man the NEA and meg were trash, nea constantly wasting dead hard for no reason and too scared to pop a gen at full health. Meg tries being a blendette and so they all die to him after he constantly was getting new hooks and meg is the only one to escape. Now I am salty, the girl who was useless and bad escapes whilst, me the one who prevented then from being juggled by being tunneled dies DUE TO THAT SAME GIRL and dwight who was a good team player and everything heals nea another bad player and risking his own neck. He deserved to live and he didnt. We need better matchmaking, I dont have friends to play with so I dont deal with potatoes.
Welcome to my Ted talk, entitled survivor comments with no reason can be left below and stories of similar events can as well
Best player survived
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@RoboMojo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1769405#Comment_1769405
Personally I see a games main objective as being fun first with winning being a side objective. That's not to say that I'm going to hinder my team as survivor just searching cheats and doing dull totems. I more mean that I'm not going to actively hinder the enjoyment of others just so that I can get a win. In a MULTIPLAYER game there is a social responsibility to make sure the game was enjoyable for everyone. Thing is, people tend to be very selfish a lot of the time, especially thanks to the anonymity of the internet. They just do their thing and everyone else can go ######### themselves with a rusty spoon. That's not the right attitude to have I think, on the other end of that screen is a person who has feelings too y'know?
Any games that pit a person against another is all about a side winning should I be bored in a game to make it fun for the others? Play a game how u want to play it so if u want to play in a way that all have fun then do that but if I want to win the game by playing fun for me but others don't find it fun then that's not my problem is it as at the end of the day if all having fun except u why should they change. If the game was set in a fun way at all times for you what is to say it is for the rest of the players people who don't like it won't play and people who like it will play I honestly couldn't care less if u give me a full sweat squad at rank 1 and they having fun by tbagging and doing gens in that game and I don't get a hook basically I have just had a crap game and need to get better or change my play style to beat them or maybe it was the map I don't care I have been annoyed about the match by getting wooped but when I get that same sweat squad and they dont escape I will have had the fun but sadly they won't. but should they have in the game when they won ez not done what there objective is to escape and made it more enjoyable by letting me 2 hook them all then they escape? No that is naff as how can u improve or try new things and get better I don't see the point in not going for the win as long as it ain't cheating then anything is fair game even exploiting isn't there fault it's game design so if a killer wants to 1 hook and camp n tunnel let him I don't care next time I'll try harder to loop him and not get caught or at least give my team enough time to escape
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@RoboMojo said:
Is it really that important to win? I mean I get it, it feels good to get that 4K or have a flawless 4 man escape but c'mon, winning isn't that important. Like what, if you don't get that 4K are the Devs gonna shoot your mom or something? Otherwise I don't understand why you care THAT much about winning. Was it really necessary to slug that baby dweet until he bled out so that you could get your 4K? Probably not, lol. I mean there comes a point where trying to win becomes a chore. No one could enjoy slugging the third person and searching for two minutes to find the 4th and meanwhile as survivor, doing all the gens in three minutes and escaping without even so much as seeing the killer couldn't possibly be fun right? Prioritizing winning over fun makes every loss sting that bit more and every win feeling kind of shallow if the majority of the match was boring. Am I missing some secret thrill to sweating or something? It sounds more stressful then fun to me.
Only reason to play anything is to win. otherwise every game should just be a draw then I'm sure no1 would play. Does any1 truly go out buy a game and go I don't want to win I'm just buying it because it will be fun to never win sadly that is what losers always say it's about having fun and taking part pfff there only saying that as they have a win rate of 1% winners have best fun when they win simple enough. So what if a guy camps slugs or tunnels or survivor do gens in no time or loop for days that's how they have fun that's how they have fun just because u don't enjoy the match doesn't mean they don't. that's problem with gamers these days always feel like there owed some free pass because they playing poor or that simply the opponent is better should be less moaning about getting wooped and try get better but thought u said it about having fun well sadly other players don't play for there opponents to have fun they play to enjoy it so if that's how someone plays that's what they enjoy even if they disagree with the tactic they use to win there enjoyment comes from the win
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@Nobsyde said:
I uploaded a very similar one just today, with two games played one after the others: one against a full swf team (4 blendettes with Object of Obsession), the other vs a Solo team.
Can you guess the difference between the two games?
Watched both games the difference is game 2 u got a basement hook and guy u chased ran to basement as other guy was sneaking there so that's GG right there if you looked and none swf blendettes the gen speed was far quicker and who knows if you had got basement hook against swf that would been same outcome so GG
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Lol good ol salt grinder shows up but as this game doesn't actually offer any better graphics or gameplay just early access for pc woopdiedoo why spend on pc? I have all but I would never just buy a pc for dbdLowbei said:
your name is ironicWhy_Are_You_Salty said:PC and Xbox have already gotten the update and chapter and PS4 EU players get the chapter in 2 days which is enough time for double bp so PC, Xbox, and EU PS4 players will have time to grind bp for the chapter and other killers and survivors and since NA PS4 players get the chapter at the end of double bp we have no time to level Clown and Kate, yet PC and Xbox will have a second double bp event to level the Clown, Kate, and everyone else and NA PS4 only has 1? That's ridiculous they're being rewarded for nothing while NA PS4 has to wait and only gets 1 double bp weekend to level the Clown and Kate. It should only be available to PS4 NA players not everyone else. I don't care if PC or Xbox players bash me about this it's true you guys have time and we don't it's only fair to make it exclusive to PS4 in NA.
be glad that you peasants are getting an event at all. get a job and buy a pc if youre salty about this.
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So Mr your right I'm wrong where's the update 3 weeks n counting now not 2 t 3 weeks it now over pff guess it legitimate now is it that all the moaning was wrong but it so right like devs maybe u and them should watch Harry potter I shall tell no lies.powerbats said:@ThePloopz said:
@awsome_predator @powerbats they said 4 days before the pc release that console would be longer. Now remember people were under the impression that things were going to be released simultaneously due to what bhvr said so I can understand the frustration thereThat I can understand it's the constant barrage of bs from certain posters claiming outright false things constantly and then claiming something different or 2 different and contradictory things at the same time. The people who're legitimately concerned are made to look like they're part of a kindergarten class by those who seem to have never grown out of that stage.
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Sadly there initial release date for all platforms were due the day pc expansion came out they didn't say before that date that it was delayed they said on the pc release date, they knew prior but didn't let people know hence people posting and saying what they want about it being delayed but ur there to tell people stop complaining why don't u just go back to ur cave as if u fed up with talk about same subject stop complainingpowerbats said:@awsome_predator said:
Wow u clearly know what your talking about lol at what point did i get mad? Hmm yes day it released they saud 2 to 3 weeks so what ur claiming is that they only found out when they woke up hey its not going to be ready do ur reasearch u pompous know Jack shiznick and yes your right things get delayed but they don't tell u on day it's released o hey thanks for coming come back in 2 to 3 weeks and there was no contradictory [BAD WORD] I said they would know before day of release that's when they told us but clearly they knew it wasn't going to be ready.
You just contradicted yourself yet again so here let me bold it for you.
Hmm yes day it released they saud 2 to 3 weeks so what ur claiming is that they only found out when they woke up hey its not going to be ready
So 3 weeks would be July 3rd so if it comes out on that day it's still within the timeframe they said. So that'd mean that your statement is complete and utter nonsense again.
ready do ur reasearch u pompous know Jack shiznick and **yes your right things get delayed but they don't tell u on day it's released ** o hey thanks for coming come back in 2 to 3 weeks and there was no contradictory [BAD WORD] I said they would know before day of release that's when they told us but clearly they knew it wasn't going to be ready.
You really should do your research since the pompous one here is you because you obviously don't like being shown that you're completely and utterly wrong. Wait they didn't tell you, then what were all those posts and updates they made where they said it'd be 2-3 weeks for the certification process? I mean you yourself even said I was right when they said it'd be 2-3 weeks. So yes they did in fact tell you on the day it was released and before that how long it was going to be.
Again they told you it wasn't going to be ready on day of pc launch and said it was based upon certification with the 2-3 timeframe. Xbox update came out 15 days after pc release which is still within the 2-3 timeframe. So again you're posts are not only contradictory but completely wrong on your claims.
You can keep trying Straw Mans, Red Herrings etc but it won't change the fact your claims are false and you know it.
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Wow u clearly know what your talking about lol at what point did i get mad ? Hmm yes day it released they saud 2 to 3 weeks so what ur claiming is that they only found out when they woke up hey its not going to be ready do ur reasearch u pompous know Jack shiznick and yes your right things get delayed but they don't tell u on day it's released o hey thanks for coming come back in 2 to 3 weeks and there was no contradictory ######### I said they would know before day of release that's when they told us but clearly they knew it wasn't going to be ready.powerbats said:@awsome_predator said:
Lol we all know they ain't going to give anyone anything for free it's all about the Benjamin my man. If people want to vent let them it doesn't mean there petulant they are just frustrated and venting as all had expected no matter how big changes are that would be across all platforms at same time not weeks apart as the case may be and as for timescale they give yes your right they did say 2 to 3 weeks but as for clear and transparent they will have known well before they announced that it wasn't coming out same time as pc or are u claiming day it comes out for pc there like o man we expected it on all platforms today delay is now 2 to 3 weeks well thanks for telling us and now there still in timescale for what they said I wish all jobs had deadlines when u can say ran into unforseen circumstances let's extend deadline. But venting means nothing as they don't really care so why do we all bother as it a way to vent out our annoyances such is human nature.
This is why i say petulant whining posters because you just completely ignored what I said because it didn't fit your narrative. You expected something unrealistic and now that your expectations haven't been met you got mad because YOU DIDN'T BOTHER READING THE POSTS THEY MADE ABOUT IT. They were clear and transparent and you even said they said 2-3 weeks. Yet here you complain and contradict yourself by saying they didn't tell you.
Try going back and reading what they've posted where they explain everything repeatedly and why it's happened the way it has. But if you do that it'd mean you'd have to admit that what you just wrote was full of hot air and you're venting due to your own mistakes.
As far as jobs that can extend deadlines due to unforeseen circumstances seriously do you even have a job? Have you ever worked at a job that has to deal with deadlines, let alone one that has to deal with stuff like this? The answer is obviously no since stuff is delayed all the time, cough Tesla cough, Warframe just did an update, still not out.
I could list over 100 of the top companies in the world and all the deadlines they've missed but that'd take up several pages.The point is you have no idea what you're talking about and next time try researching before posting so many logically impossible and contradictory things at the same time.
Try using Google since it's easily usable and or go check out the dev streams or even their news releases/posts.
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It depends on what u class as a win and a loss u get loads of points and don't pip is that a win? Or is getting a 3/4 man low point n pip a win either way what does it matter it's that person's choice how they want to play for whatever reason just like how survivors want to play the want to flashlight teabag chase me chase me so be it what frustrates u may not frustrate others n vice versa it is all part n parcel about what we like I dislike in game but all games have things people don't like others doing at end of the day it's a game if you didn't like it u wouldn't play but clearly we all do only thing I think should stop is toxic chat so what if u get tunneled or camped that's what they wanted to do so what if they constantly flash light u body block that game they won and that's how they wanted to play let's just remove toxic chat as benefits no1 and kinda pointless as unless u making money off the game or are proven to be best were all crap gamers in comparison to the best.Someissues said:@arcticxlia said:
I was playing some rounds (ps4), had a few campers (even facecamper) and i'm really asking myself why some Killers are camping? These even don't get much points and probably don't Pip..so whY the [BAD WORD]?
I really dont get it.Read this thread, it explains perfectly why Killers have to camp especially at high rank. You need to Camp or at best you get a Black Pip, you'll only rank up if the RNG are on you and survivors made extremely bad move like constantly saving friends when killer was near etc
if you don't camp you will lose. because games only last 5-8 minutes, gens are too fast, and survivors having 3 lives means you MUST focused on one person or they will all get away. and you MUST TUNNEL
Face camp, however, will guarantee you will lose the game
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Lol we all know they ain't going to give anyone anything for free it's all about the Benjamin my man. If people want to vent let them it doesn't mean there petulant they are just frustrated and venting as all had expected no matter how big changes are that would be across all platforms at same time not weeks apart as the case may be and as for timescale they give yes your right they did say 2 to 3 weeks but as for clear and transparent they will have known well before they announced that it wasn't coming out same time as pc or are u claiming day it comes out for pc there like o man we expected it on all platforms today delay is now 2 to 3 weeks well thanks for telling us and now there still in timescale for what they said I wish all jobs had deadlines when u can say ran into unforseen circumstances let's extend deadline. But venting means nothing as they don't really care so why do we all bother as it a way to vent out our annoyances such is human nature.powerbats said:What I find funny is you're all still posting flame post basically saying the same thing over and over which does nothing but start more flame posting. You complain about it taking so long yet they said 2-3 weeks which is still right on schedule.
At 2 weeks would be June 26th and it came out yesterday for Xbox, at 3 weeks it'd be July 3rd. Since this would still be before double blood points weekend it still works and July 3rd is the next Sony update day. So they planned accordingly and you're getting mad at them for the schedule being pretty accurate.
You complain they're not keeping you updated but if they kept posting the same thing every day that MS and Sony said it was still in certification you'd whine and ######### even more saying they were hiding something. I mean good grief quit blaming it on them based upon past things. This patch was different and had a lot more stuff going on. Also quit trying to compare them to the really big game developers with tons of employees and money.
As someone else has pointed out Warframe is still in certification and they're a whole lot bigger. The whole well they should've ignored ptb and sent it, well then you'd have a super buggy ass game and then you'd whine and ######### even more.
The biggest fallacies are saying well MS has it done so it's obviously BHVR's fault Sony isn't done. Well did it ever occur that Sony and MS are not only to different companies but also have different certification processes? That the code might gasp be different and that gasp those Q&A departments might be doing other certs at the same time for other companies?
While BHVR might've had some issues as they discussed and posted about, but it might also be completely out of their hands and if it comes by July 3rd then guess what it's still within the estimated 2-3 week timeframe they gave. Yes it's frustrating but all the constant non stop spamming of whine threads makes you all look like a bunch of entitled, petulant whiny children..
NOTE: Yes that last part was harsh but it's meant to be to get the point across. They haven't lied, they haven't hid anything and when they've gotten something new to add they've posted about it. The next patch should be smoother now that the store update is done since that was the biggest change alone with Shrine being moved.
Lastly when PS4 does get it hopefully they'll compensate all console users an appropriate amount of iridescent shards for the wait.
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Or how about the door only stays open for 20secs then if u want open again need power a gen means survivors have to work as team more leave sharply or potentially lose
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Surely as game developers u would know bigger the update longer the process so that being said if u plan correctly there wouldn't be any issues saying it big and that's why surely they know the ins and outs of the process basicly they have dropped the ball plain n simplerha said:@Damaho said:
They planned for this? Highly doubt it. They announced 4 days before the clown release that consoles would get it later.No, they already said in Reddit Q&A from May 14 that the certification process would be slower because it's a big update and consoles would very likely get it later.
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Surely as game developers u would know bigger the update longer the process so that being said if u plan correctly there wouldn't be any issues saying it big and that's why surely they know the ins and outs of the process basicly they dropped the ball n don't want to take liablity for the shambles. When ps4 mess up u get freebies so hope behaviour do the same for there disgruntled fansrha said:@Damaho said:
They planned for this? Highly doubt it. They announced 4 days before the clown release that consoles would get it later.No, they already said in Reddit Q&A from May 14 that the certification process would be slower because it's a big update and consoles would very likely get it later.
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Before they said delay due to blah blah they said when new dlc comes out it will be same time. Just like pig launch they got that wrong too they should learn from there past mistakes as although I don't know the process of there work much like they wouldn't know mine I understand the need to plan ahead and if there possibilities of delays u start early with ur ptb so that all issues are resolved n ready for same day release get the certs in order in good time before u announce this is our release date then u don't have problem with people complaining, Christmas is here in 6 months time I think I will wait to Xmas eve 10mins before shops close to buy my kids presents already got my wife's but I can just tell my kids hey kids ur mam got her present because she knew what to expect but u will have to wait a few days to get yours as the shops didn't stay open long enough and if u have a problem many ppl struggle just look at dbd devs they couldn't get it sorted but not there fault it the certs pff load of rubbish planning is key245_Trioxin said:@awsome_predator said:
The update is late they said would all come same time, then they change the goal posts. Look at there plan also we have tournaments on all platforms which face it joke!! But even so pc can have new killer for it but console users no, n I know people wouldn't have used anyway but still it's a jokeIt's not late, though. This has already been discussed ad nauseam. BHVR did state that the console release would take approximately 2-3 additional weeks due to the size of the update and Microsoft's and Sony's certification process.
It's currently week 2 since the release of the update on PC (June 12). The update shouldn't technically be considered late until the end of next week. If it takes longer than that, then I agree that something should be done by BHVR to accommodate for time lost. But until it's actually late, based on the timeframe that was stated by BHVR, then we just just need to show some patience.
Why do you think the shrine is closed until the 29th, and the double bloodpoint weekend isn't until July 5th? These dates are based on the need for an extra 2-3 weeks due to the certification process.
Microsoft certified the update, Sony has not. So, wouldn't this now be the fault of Sony for PS4 users?
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They shouldn't need to rush anything it's called good planning, lots of other companies manage huge expansions which all come out simultaneously and like the person said before is it that hard to integrate changes such as shard cap removal? Not really at least then it means people can store up and get ready there main issue is the buy cosmetics store, I don't really care about paying them more money bring it out whenever they will still get money from people who want the stuff but they wont be mad if that's all they had to wait for.Yes, it would be.
- That would add a separate update that would need to be certified.
- They would then need to pull the original update that contains the cap removal, as it needs to be removed from the code, because it has been added as a separate update.
- They would then need to turn the update code back in, after the removal of that code, and restart the entire certification process.
This would cause the whole update to take far longer to get certified. We'd be looking at another 3 weeks to get the full update.
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They shouldn't need to rush anything it's called good planning, lots of other companies manage huge expansions which all come out simultaneously and like the person said before is it that hard to integrate changes such as shard cap removal? Not really at least then it means people can store up and get ready there main issue is the buy cosmetics store, I don't really care about paying them more money bring it out whenever they will still get money from people who want the stuff but they wont be mad if that's all they had to wait for.245_Trioxin said:
OK, but if they had rushed it out on console to match the PC release, it would have wound up worse for console.fcc2014 said:245_Trioxin said:
It's a very common practice in PC gaming. PTBs and PTS's are in a lot of games. Other communities don't make a huge fuss about it.
I'd rather know that we're getting a proper update on console, because of the PTB, than to get a bug-ridden update that went through zero rebalancing.
If we don't have it by the end of next week, then make a fuss. But, as it stands, it's only been ten business days (QA, testers, and auditors don't usually work on weekends).
We are not getting a proper update. PC is reporting all kinds of issues.
Keep in mind that the console release was not originally planned, and only happened because of people asking about it week in and week out. It's a pretty shoddy port, to be honest, and if they did rush things out to it, it would be in a really broken state.
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The update is late they said would all come same time, then they change the goal posts. Look at there plan also we have tournaments on all platforms which face it joke!! But even so pc can have new killer for it but console users no, n I know people wouldn't have used anyway but still it's a joke245_Trioxin said:
I can read. I also have a very solid understanding on how these businesses work. To boot, I understand that the PTB and the actual release are two very different things.fcc2014 said:@245_Trioxin said:
The PC update was June 12. It's been 2 weeks. Stop blowing this out of proportion. If we get it this week on console, then it's right in the time frame that BHVR stated.Apparently you can't read the chapter first came out on the ptb on the 29th. I was stating they should have instead released the chapter on ALL platforms at the same time(smaller patch) everyone happy. The ptb could have still been used to test the new chapter and store with console getting a later release and access to the store as that patch would've have taken longer.
Looks like we have one thing in common. We're both literate.
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Potatoe_survivor said:I don't think anyone here actually understands the certification process because I see A LOT of speculation and anger regarding DLC disparity. I'll give you the in-depth version and if anyone has more specific questions feel free to ask.
Console certification depends on a myriad of factors from the volume of submissions by all devs to the certification department, to time of submission. The average time from submission to DLC drop is 5-7 days for MS, and up to 2 weeks for Sony.
The curtain call DLC was tested in house before being pushed to the PTB, then from the PTB everything was reworked, and finally pushed to PC June 12th. After that the proposed update (or in this case DLC AND update) is readied and sent to the different cert departments where it is independently tested by them for stability, bugs, issues etc. Each company has their own process but behavior has to wait on BOTH to be certified before they can release either for obvious reasons but most obvious is so they can avoid another howling grounds disaster where rushing the update literally broke the game on all platforms and required months of fixing.
So what likely happened is:
-In house testing (may-june)
-Ptb (june 1-11)
-Rework (during ptb)
-Push to PC June 12th
-Update sent to MS/Sony june 13/14
Again average turnaround is up to 2 weeks with Sony so the earliest you could expect it on either console is June 28th but since they have a double blood point event planned early July I wouldn't expect curtain call before July 2nd.
The only thing that really irks me is I know for a fact Sony stays in constant communication with any developer who issues a update for certification. They update the dev throughout the entire process from bugs found, to likely testing completion date and behavior COULD share that information with us if they wanted so we would feel less like an afterthought and more like a part of the community but since DBD started as a PC game and they only made console versions for the money they clearly don't think of us as that important.
I dont know the numbers, only they do, but I'm fairly confident more people play on pc than ps4/xb1 combined so we will forever be an afterthought.
Anyways that's why we're forced to wait and when we can expect the update roughly.
Just a quick questions as I have no idea on how whole process works but just intrigued that when most other games bring out there expansions they come simultaneously and a lot of the time after beta and such ps4 for instance get them earlier. I just struggle to see how the other games get the cert work together yet they can't? Why not do the ptbfor a week or 2 depending how much time u need to discover issues which 9 out of 10 times they know the bugs but hey, close the ptb then get all sorted n release all at same time maybe they should have started earlier than they said or said expansion bit bigger than we thought sorry guys delay instead let's rush out the pc n get round to rest, if that's how they want it to be so be it but don't try blaming certs of ps4/ms all developers know the procedures n timing so get sorted in advance or be open n transparent and tell people pc get earlier because that what we want to do not blame others because they can't be bothered to prepare right.
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Lets hope they do as will be funny seeing all the salty cheats cry waaaaa not fair I mean if u need to cheat to win shows how rubbish they really are and even more so when the cheat backfiresLowbei said:
You hear that devs?!? THIS guy said you have to, so... you better do it now.Might_Oakk said:@EpicFailTryHard said:
interesting. i would think this would be a ban handled by sony.Game developers have to add bans to their games on console. Pretty much same as steam.
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True that mate like i say spoils game for newcomers and these guys just trolls guess they did to the wrong killer as they were salty as anything after getting wooped lolChesterTheMolester said:Pallet looping and stacking autohaven offerings is one thing but survivors using splinter offerings is just ######### up.
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U don't see the offering until the end of the game as it a secret offering. I know I could tell when game started but like I say I don't mind playing Freddy but not the point as clearly they thought ha we will bully this guy as Freddy easy to bully if u don't know how he works unfortunately for them i know how to play him without add one I just hate knowing ppl like that out there that will spoil for some players who find it difficult enough n no wonder so many killers dont want to play when hard enough for some without throwing in that kinda rubbishMight_Oakk said:Dbd hasn't instituted console bans yet. Notqueen said they are going to add them but have no eta. So yeah since it took them over a year to add them on pc I wouldn't hold your breath.
Why not just close dbd when you see the offering?
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All Sony are bothered about is if your being abusive to other players that's why I was Hoping the dbd devs could stop this from happening or at least punish them as could be quite off putting for new players to deal with that kind of rubbish.EpicFailTryHard said:interesting. i would think this would be a ban handled by sony. -
Not trying to offend but why as a killer would u not want to tunnel? basicly game is harder for killer than survivor, killer been looped for days finally gets 1 then they get flashlight or ds start the looping again gaurntee this happens multiple times a game so when u get 1 hooked and now there 2 gens left if your lucky why as part of killer game is to kill would u not be like hmm I'm make sure I get at least 1. When I get camped I just sit hook let team do gens n get out dosnt matter if I don't get off as long as I give them time to get out n if that's how a killer plays so be it same as survivors with ds flash light n looping it all just game mechanics so it how u chose to play. N I don't use speed boosts perks often all about stealth n dukes n stuns. Teabagging is basicly haha killer can't catch me get focused on me as I'm a looper while u want me so much my team blast gens bb game over I don't get salty If I know I ain't getting them I go after rest n make sure once I get u I saviour it not because I'm salty because but I know survivor will message u so salty bro hmmm nope u messaged me because I hit u on hook or look up n down I'm just showing u same courtesy u showed me so no salt salt comes with messages n just makes me lol.mintchapstick said:I would argue that being camped or tunneled is just as demoralizing as being teabagged is. You still get the feeling of losing and having to think, "I suck so bad at this game, why do I bother playing?"
I know I went through a phase where I didn't have any kind of speed boosts on any of my characters, so every single round, I was the one who was the weakest link & i was tunneled to hell & I was Rank 20, so ofc I was camped too, and I didn't understand why I was so bad and everyone else could get the killer off their ass for longer than 5 seconds. and I wanted to practice running & juking but I couldn't, because I was constantly being immediately downed, tunneled, & camped.
Very frustrating, very demoralizing.
People who teabag are just being ridiculous and they don't actually hinder your ability to play the game like camping or tunneling does.
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Go check it out put on YouTube: dead by daylight: swf cheats. I actually didn't mind as I 4k them guess little did they know I'm a rank1 killer who hasn't had much time to play get rank down since resets if they had made me nurse or Billy they would have won but I quite like Freddy n was funny to see the cheats get there's. N thanks very much guys.