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@ Antares2332 said:
Yes, it is better to wait 1 hour for the killer to search for the downed survivor lol
Ik you're just exaggerating but that's not really the case anyway.
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Honestly I only bring this up because I truly believe their are a ton of perks that are left on the side burner. Which have good ideas behind them but another perk does it better. The new perks are totally outside the meta and nothing really seems to come close to be valuable 100% of the time. Bbq seems to be that one perk that should always be brought.
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@[Deleted User] said:
...so you want to be slugged on the ground for 4 minutes is what I'm seeing?
Tbh no, but if it gives me a better chance at finding hatch while slugged it would make sense that the killer would have to run deer stalker to find me.
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@LastShoe said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2021233#Comment_2021233
You really dont know what i am talking about... do you?
Killer attack cooldown is 3 seconds.
With wglf survivors can pick each other in 4 seconds (if both are picking up).
Soulguard lasts 8 seconds, which is enough (if you have 200% healing speed) to heal each other while killer is hitting healers.
Healed survivor can tank a hit for next 8 seconds, while healing with another one, who has 4 more seconds of soulguard the downed survivor.
In short, 3 survivors can hold the killer infinitely. Earlier it required medkits and when they run out, there was a problem for survivors, but now...
Now it's almost like the old sabo, where killer can't do anything, unless it's killer with power that downs survivors, or he has StBfL...
So yeah... this perk is still meh (almost 0 buff value) for low lvl players, but is insane for swf on higher skills...
So yeah... devs got a brainfart...
I have never encountered such a play. You cant buff and nerf perks, on a .00001% of a chance of it happening.
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@EvanSnowWolf said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2006269#Comment_2006269
Give'em a chance? What? What? What am I even hearing? Are you suggesting the Killer should just LET THEM take the last generator?
In what universe is this level of kindness EVER bestowed up a Killer player? In what universe does a group of Survivor players go "You know what, guys? We've looped this Killer for like 7 minutes and we are down to our last gen. Let's just let him kill us all, just to make it fair?"
Not even joking me and my friends let the killers kill us if we know we've pipped. But I was saying in that specific situation you dont wanna let the killer hold the game hostage.
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@EvanSnowWolf said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2006211#Comment_2006211
Then don't be stupid and gen lock yourself. This is a Survivor created problem.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2006218#Comment_2006218
It's when the Survivors are not paying attention and just do any old gens they see, and the next thing they know the last three generators are so close together that it becomes easy for the Killer to lock them down in a very tight patrol, making it extremely hard to get the final generator done.
Survivor Mains LOVE to whiny about the dreaded "3 gen scenario", despite the fact it is 100% in their control and it is something they do to themselves. It's ultra easy to avoid. Pick one generator out in the boondocks of the map. Now... DON'T DO IT.
There. You've avoided gen lock. You're welcome.
Someone's salty. I'm not complaining about a 3 gen. If you get yourself caught in that situation then a time limit would not be very suitable at giving everyone a fair chance to win. The survivors in that situation basically dug their own graves, so give em a chance? Mostly happens when you play solo. Not everybody has a 4 man stacked SWF to play with.
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@AsherFrost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2006211#Comment_2006211
What's a gen lock? That's a term I have not seen before.
When you're down to 1-2 generators left and all of them are in extremely close proximity to where the killer can easily patrol them. Mostly happens when you leave the 3 gen cluster (that spawns every game) to be the last 3 gens on the map.
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@EvanSnowWolf said:
For a second I thought this was a troll post, but it dovetails into another issue.
It's not the immersion part, it's the borderline holding the game hostage part.
I said it before, and I will say it again: the game needs a hard time limit, at which time the Entity takes out every Survivor like the EGC.
The problem with that is a gen lock. To where the roles are reversed and the killer then holds the game hostage. It's already hard enough to beat a gen lock because you played yourself into being gen locked. Might as well DC if you're gen locked with a time limit.
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@carnage4u said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1783080#Comment_1783080
I meant DS. lol.
Yea it's a pity they had to pick that out. Everybody knew what you meant they just had to be a smart ass. Lol. But you're right. People dont understand that BT and DS are fine the way they are. When I run them I'm glad I did because its normally a camping killer that causes me to use them both.
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I'm all for trying to find a solution to the swf bully squads. But I can tell you even if a 4 man swf all red ranks we still get stomped every once in a while. I truly believe everything would be ok if MM was a little better
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@zoozoom6 said:
the entire survivor meta: DS, UB,BT,DH, adrenaline, deliverance
for killers it's just :bbq, noed, haunted grounds,Bloodwarden,nurse's
I like that you said nurses because I was thinking (I play survivor 75% of the time) I dont heal a bunch around the TR just because of that.
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I dont see how the killer getting mindgamed at that pallet is a good example of why we need BL. I've never seen anyone respect a pallet that hard and not eventually just break it after falling for 15 fake vaults. That clip would probably be a better example of why we need better MM.
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Let's just talk about how the numbers are gonna be swayed in the experiment anyways because for 2 days all I've played against are huntress, deathslinger, and nurses. None of which I feel actually need BL.
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@PerkyPerky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495902#Comment_1495902
How the hell is hatch a killer favored mechanic when it literally gives survivors a win, someone explain to me please! 😂
So what if killer gets even more fast and et cetra, survivors get a huge advantage (free win) why can't killers also have it for playing poorly?!
I get what you're saying but just run noed as a perk if you want it so bad? Lol
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Am I the only one who runs to the farthest gate and waits for the killer to shut hatch? It's almost like a 80% chance I make it. And I feel like that's a deserved win because I've got a big brain!
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@Azgard12 said:
Why not remove gens and hooks as well? Just make it a race to a gate and be done with it all.
I actually laughed at your comment so hard lol. Thanks for making my day in this dbd grind better! I'll run OoO and race to the door the next game and see who wins! Lol
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I'm with you! I'm a flashlight main and on ps4 flashlight saves are my thing but theyre so far and few in between that I didnt think they needed changed at all!
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@tomas11403 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495547#Comment_1495547
I totally agree with you there. Not much chance for the survivors of the freddy is a good killer
I think everyone can agree that freddy on every platform is OP.
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@OldHunterLight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495533#Comment_1495533
Didn't dbd came out on console on 2017 around july?
I'm not sure when it came to console I started on PC to be completely honest.
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@tomas11403 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495494#Comment_1495494
You haven’t played on ormond? I really don’t want to make you feel like your opinion is invalid but the fact that there are maps you haven’t even played as killer leaves the impression that you aren’t quite as experienced
I am a rank 1 killer and survivor main lol...been playing since 2016 and I have never played killer on ormond. It's really not that hard to believe beings that ormond hasn't always been in the game. But I'll give you that it's been in the game long enough that I've should have gotten a killer game on ormond by now. Bs is what it is.
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@Kebek said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495399#Comment_1495399
Have you ever played vs OoO on midwitch ? You sound like you didn't since with a good looper that's more then just possible, it's actually the most likely outcome of circling the whole map like 2-3 times and then going for safe pallets and repeat.
Honestly that a terrible question because midwich just came out and you know how often OoO is ever even used.? I use it as survivor to meme for a good laugh when I'm with a 4 stack of swf....but honestly no one even uses it enough for anybody to actually complain...
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@tomas11403 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495313#Comment_1495313
Ok. I was just reading through this and wasn’t going to bother saying anything. I have around 1.5k hours playing dbd on ps4 probably about 2/3 of that as killer. Firstly, for the people saying ps4 survivors aren’t nearly as good as pc ones, that is both right and wrong. I would say your average ps4 survivor is more of a potato than an average pc survivor, but I promise you, the very best ps4 survivors can loop just as efficiently as anyone else, and do in fact have enough brain cells to do gens. As for the part about killer being to easy, I was wondering what your experience was like in terms of time played until I saw you say OOO is a meme perk. OoO is arguably the strongest survivor perk, it can be used to gain so much distance on a killer that it makes every chase 10x harder (obviously there are exceptions). You also clearly haven’t played against a top tier efficient swf on ormond (emphasis on efficient and top tier), because it just isn’t realistically possible to win as pig or gf. Sorry for the rant, but this thread just pissed me off
Tbh with you no I have never played a game of killer on ormond as stupid as that sounds. I've played a lot of games as survivor and killer and rarely get ormond. But OoO in my opinion is honestly a meme perk. I've hardly ever seen anyone use it correctly. I've played a lot of time on this game and honestly, still killer just seems a lot easier to complete the objective than survivor does.
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@NursesBootie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495313#Comment_1495313
It's about the information the survivors can exchange between each other. And OoO is by no means a meme perk.
We can hop in a custom match on midwich and you try to hit me with trapper in under five minutes. If you manage to do it, OoO is a meme. xD
Lol I'd honestly take you up on that! You really think midwich is going to save you from being hit in under 5 minutes?
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@NursesBootie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1494776#Comment_1494776
OoO, totem locations, loop locations and loop management, unhook management, gen management, should i go on? Seems like way more than TR to me.
OoO is a meme. I only run it as survivor when I want killer interaction. The rest is just RNG. How can you complain about RNG. So what ? They got lucky . Big deal. You can still respect the pallets and then tunnel them down?
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@Desh said:
You sure are one toxic person. Can you "humble" brag any harder?
I'm not bragging. I just really wanted input on what people think is so hard. I know I'm not the only killer out here who thinks a lot of these posts about how "hard killer is" seems like bait.
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@Kebek said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495228#Comment_1495228
Link to your steam works just fine.
I dont have a steam, I told you I'm ps4?
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@Kebek said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495142#Comment_1495142
I face potaotes on red ranks consistently for the duration of 4 years of playing DBD almost daily. So yeah, vast majority of red ranks are potaotes, not that they are horrible players but that they aren't good enough when they face seasoned red rank killer who's generally more skilled then average red rank survivor.
There are some good solo players in the mix but they themselfs can't hard carry the team unless killer tunnels them hard while they loop well and teammates actually hold M1 (nobody does that btw even at red ranks). Only saving grace for red ranks potatoness is good SWF teams, they're the ones who use everything in survivor's arsenal efficiently which then results in sweaty games that can sometimes be near unwinnable.
As I said, if you're so godly and face off great players consistently and beat them every game go steam. I'd watch you decimate good SWFs game after game after game to learn from your amazing skills.
I actually do stream. And I'll post something on her soon of actual evidence of how easy killer seems to be for me.
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@Dr_doom_j2 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495102#Comment_1495102
A 2k isn't a win, and I know for a fact it's easier for ME to pip as survivor, whether or not I survive, than it is for me to pip as a killer. It's the same echo chamber as survivors saying Hillbilly, Freddy, nurse, Deathslinger and Spirit need a nerf.
You must remember the review bombing this game received on steam because survivors wanted Freddy nerfed? Don't remember killers doing that over anything, but people get upset that killer side has valid issues that need addressing for some reason and that's where the impasse lies.
As a survivor I've had great spirits and nurses and potatoe spirit and nurses. It doesnt define how good the killer is by what they use. Anybody can get a 4k infantry belt/iri head with huntress. Huntress is one of the worst killers. So this leads me to believe that my dog can pick up the controller and get a 4k.
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@Kebek said:
If it's so esay and you never kill less then 3 or 4 survivors maybe you should start streaming ? I'm sure there's a lot of people who would love to see your godlike skill in action, never losing a single match even vs good SWF teams with midtier killers.
Maybe there's just too many casual players on console ? Dunno, without seeing the caliber of survivors you face there's no way to tell if you're just stomping potatoes or you're DBD killer god. From experince I'd say it's the first one.
I'd agree with that, except for the fact that no one can tell me that every red rank player I face is a potatoe.
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@skarsguts said:
That's because killer is easier than the killer players let out to be. They're just really loud with their crying.
I'm not a 3,500 hour player, only 660 hours at the moment (still no life), but I got to rank 1 killer with more than half of my hours being only survivor.. and still reside in red ranks thanks to the rift challenges making me play killer. Didn't even use NOED - and got bullied by SWF plenty of times. PC as well.
I think your right, killers mains only wanna be upset because they think 4k is a win.
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@Dr_doom_j2 said:
Iean I've played on PS4 since launch too.. it varies incredibly the type of response you'll get, and I believe region also has an influence, but in all honesty, I think this guys not being honest, and it doesn't matter what you say to them about it..
As killer mains who've been playing for several years, we know better than to take this serious, right? Even the best players in the world say the game isn't easy for killer at high ranks, some may disagree about solo survivor being harder (which I disagree with) but hardly anyone sits here and says killer is easy if they are actually a killer main.
So if one person wants to believe that, inspire of years of evidence to the contrary, than allow them to and move on.
I personally believe the broken record of "killer is so hard" "nerf swf" "4k is the only way to win" has just become what people feel they have to say. As many hours as I have in this game i know from experience as a killer and survivor player, that solo survivor is harder than getting 2 or 3k as a killer.
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@Volfawott said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1494959#Comment_1494959
Personally I hate solo survivor usually because it's a coin toss between whether your team is competent or a bunch of potatoes and for some reason you never getting in between it's always one or the other.
Hell during one of my streams I managed to die on first Hook because one of my team into an afk.
Another decided they wanted to take a tour of the map before saving me.
Lastly despite the fact that even the Killer (Wraith) tried really hard to get the third one to get me off hook even bringing her to me the Meg disagreed.
You were actually playing with a bunch of potatoes...please tell me they were red ranks lol
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@Volfawott said:
I'm not going to give you the annoying bait comments because that doesn't help anything.
Typically the problem of killer in comparison to Survivor mistakes tend to be a lot more punishing if you mess up as a survivor even if you're not working in a swf you still essentially have 3 people to cover your butt.
As for killer mistakes can very easily cost you the game especially as you have nothing else to really back you up without using endgame perks (but then again you do run into people who shake their entitlement stick about the perks you use this is not just a survivors but it also goes other Killers players as well)
For example playing a loop to safe as a result could not getting a head can possibly extend a chase for 15 to 30 more seconds depending on the score of the survivor. In that time a generator or two gen pop.
All in all is killer difficult or extremely hard. Not really. Can it be really frustrating and annoying yes. Is it easier than survivor well honestly that's always just going to be down to you a subjective opinion is always a subjective opinion
Thanks for the no bait comment lol. Those always suck because you dont put any input, but I agree with "killer easier or harder than survivor?" I dont really know, I have plenty of hard and easy games as survivor. I know that as a killer its 1v4 , if you make a mistake it's all on you. As a survivor you have 3 other people to make mistakes and if you dont make any mistakes it's almost a easy 2 pip escape. But I probably play 70-30 survivor main. Just those games I play as killer always seem like a breeze as to when I play survivor.
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@MusicNerd_TC said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1494916#Comment_1494916
I can't play huntress or slinger, I'm just a potato. 2 days ago I played slinger, and I only got 3 kills from camping, and the only shots I got were from camping. The survivors were overly altruistic, and that's the only reason I won. Goes to show how ######### I am at him.
Lol. I actually think huntress is a little harder than slinger. Her gen pressure and map control is really #########.
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@MusicNerd_TC said:
Try hag, trapper, huntress, nurse and slinger on PS4 and then we'll talk. I'm a PS4 player as well.
I actually love playing as huntress and slinger when I'm bored. The hitboxes are wider than the broadside of a barn. And playing slinger takes me back to the days of cod.
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@InsaneNurseMain said:
Try playing nurse. At red ranks. On console. You'll be wanting to uninstall in frustration within seconds
I will say I absolutely am a potato with nurse but her playstyle just isnt for me. That would definitely make things more challenging.
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@Arctus said:
Because you play on ps4. That's the only reason. Play on pc and you'll be crying your eyes out.
You're seriously gonna say that because I'm on console it's not as hard? You do realize that everyone who plays on console faces the same adversity as the next guy right? You dont have to own a $2,000 set up on PC to be good at a game just so you know.
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@RayrafLPP said:
I can confirm that it can go this way.
Ps4 is a super strange world for DBD.
But heres the thing:
Times.
When I took a break from taking a break on DBD I won like 50 games in a row with 4ks. I had a weekend off just for playing DBD. It was super easy and I got rank 1 survivors every match, but they just were super bad.
Then I could only play in the evening/night and voila:
Only SWF. usually 4 man at PS4 nighttime.
Games went from enjoyable 10 minutes to stressfull 5 minutes.
You win by slugging 3 of them and then kinda farm hooks when they lost already. I swear If there were 100 Ranks I would say during the day the best survivors you get are rank 50 max
but in the nighttime they are at least rank 50.
Its just nother world.
I dont want to say youre no good killer, but im sure you arent as great as your matches go, the BAMFs are just not online when you are.
I know this is true on ps4 because at night when I play survivor it's great killers, during the day doesnt seem so good. But I'm sure I'm not as great as my games seem to go. When it comes to killer games tho, that difference is player skill for survivors from night to day doesnt seem to change. My games are much more fun late at night tho!
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@Zaitsev said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1489415#Comment_1489415
Dont tell me yall still DC over Legion.
Why does anyone feel the need to DC against a legion?
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@HectorBrando said:
Because Killer is not THAT hard unless you face the 4 men SWAT team or a group of 3-4 insanely good Solos in a very bad map, regular SWFs and Solos are perfectly beatable or at least get 2 kills.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1494776#Comment_1494776
I think it is because people overestimate their skill, if 4 Survivors beat you, maybe you are not good enough to beat them (yes I know sometimes is the map or external factors like lag or some weird bug). As a rule thumb "I win, the game/bad luck makes me lose", this applies to Survivors and almost any game in existence. Also people tend to remember that one crushing defeat against 4 gods but forget those 100 games steamrolling solos.
I agree with this. Most of the time I brush off that sweaty 4x swf because I just steamrolled the last 25 games! This cant be only my experience. I have thousands of games as survivor and am always a rank 1 not that that means much anymore. and even as swf we get obliterated all too often. I think people overreact to 1 L compared to the hundreds of games they won.
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@RakimSockem said:
It's hilarious how when someone makes the claim that their killer games are relatively easy, everyone assumes that this person has played against nothing but potatoes (I mean do yall really believe that? What are the chances?)
I'm not really sure why people get so mad about the claim that killer seems easy. I actually wanted someone to tell me why they think it's so hard. I'm not even sure if its sweaty survivors who get upset or killer mains at this point?
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@MadLordJack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1494785#Comment_1494785
Then you are probably at high ping, are only going against terrible survivors, both, or are so good at the game that you could play survivor with no hands.
I guess I'm just that good then!
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@Exxodus21 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1494728#Comment_1494728
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1494797#Comment_1494797
I agree it probably has more to do with survivors. I can't count the number of times I've given "baby" survivors a break just to see in post-game they were rank 2-4. They're a terrible survivor but got carried to red ranks by a swf team.
It's good for killer to because of the individual killer rankings. If manage to get to red ranks while leveling up a couple of killers Freddy, Ghost Face, and Doctor but then decide to try Nurse, Clown, Huntress, etc you're gonna have a bad time.
I agree. I think it's going to be great for when you wanna try out that new killer and not be set up with a bunch of sweaty survivors. But also I like the challenge of playing good survivors. Playing good survivors as killer is what makes you better at killer and survivor.
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@vogit10102 said:
Being killers is so easy now the only way to have fun is against SWF squads. Also Cannibal now is a killer machine
I kinda really agree with this comment. Killer seems so easy to me 99.9% of the time. Without the once in a while sweaty swf I would stop playing killer, because other than bloodpoints, killer isnt really fun to me when I'm 4k 3 outta 4 games.
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@Rin_is_my_waifu said:
So, you must be the 1% of those players who 4k as perkless clown on Haddonfield against red rank SWF
I need an autograph now
I mean this is serious? Lol. Can someone please give me a reason to why they think killer is actually hard? What seems to make it so hard other than once in a while getting a game against a good swf that knows how to hold m1 on a gen?
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@MadLordJack said:
If this isn't bait, then you are either only playing top tier killers with their best addons, only getting terrible survivors that don't know what a gen is, or are playing at a high ping.
I said I'm maining pig mostly and sure I use rule set #2 and tampered timer a lot. But when I play against pig it's so easy to get the helmet off. No real reason any decent survivor should be dying to a helmet when I dont tunnel down the people going to jigsaw boxes.
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@ Antares2332 said:
If this is not a bait, then chances are the game has put you with players of a different rank or you have never been touched by a decent group of SWF.
I mean I'm actually being dead serious lol. I really cannot wrap my head around why people truly think that killer is so hard. Swf doesnt even seem that bad, sure theres a lot of communication in swf. But it's not much more then your terror radius already gives away?
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I'm obviously a survivor main and I love tru, cuz hes honest about the games balance and what he feels is op or not. He loves spirit but always talks bout how op she is. With the right add ons or perks I believe everyone can be op.
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What's so weird to me is how they say ranks dont mean much, but as soon as I get in a match I know if the killer is red rank or not. I wish everything would kinda stay the way it is. But I'm sure mmr will be ok as long as they use the data that has been taken over the last month or so.