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@MusicNerd_TC said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/161067/is-doctor-a-little-too-mad
I agree with the 2 nerfs you suggested, but a low skill doctor won't be able to use the static blast effectively. Let's say a doc is running thrilling tremors and pop goes the weasel, when the doc downs someone, he does a static blast to shock survivors off of generators and trigger thrilling tremors, and pops the generator later. That is something a bit more complex about doctor. However dying survivors shouldn't scream, and maybe he shouldn't see his clones.
He doesn't see his clones (it's an addon that gives him the ability to see his clones). Without addons he's SO much weaker than with addons.
A rational observation would focus on Spirit, Billy or any other Top tier killer, not a Mid tier killer that requires you to use maybe more than 2% of your braincells to play against. I actually have fun playing against Docs (my main).
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Just ######### learn to play Doctor so you actually understand his playstyle. Then reverse engeneer that into your survivor's playstyle and you'll win every. Time.
If you get revealed by the Doctor, it's your ######### fault to begin with... I've managed to play against a doctor that completely decimated my team. I, on the other hand was always threading the needle and staying just outside of his TR enough so he doesn't Static Blast me. In chases, I understand the necessary distance to loop or drop a pallet prematurely. Either-way, I'm not a red rank survivor by any means, but I sure as hell know how to play against my main. If you're low skilled enough that you complain against doctor, then you're definitively in need of serious improvement.
It's true that in low ranks, Doctor thrives because of his immense potential to have many different playstyles, one more annoying than the other. But as you get into higher ranks, there are only one or two playstyles actually worth using on him, which restricts his power immensely.
I personally like playing a killer that isn't "meta" or like the other killers, I like mindgaming and torturing survivors, but I can't do that no more in red ranks... I have to actually try hard to win, I have to improve my mechanics and game sense.
And honestly.. If you even fall for fake pallets, you must really have a problem up there in your neural network.. They're even worse than freddy's fake pallets.
In summary:
GIT GUD.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350731#Comment_1350731
That's why I said asking her for her opinion would be interesting and far more accurate than this back-and-forth, but she shouldn't actually comment here.
PS: I'd ask my schizophrenic friend, but she doesn't like to discuss her condition and I respect that.
+ some other quotes from her
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"The flashbacks are PTSD not schizophrenia since they don't materialize.. Like she doesn't think they're physically there and real, there's no evidence of that, so the're normal flashbacks which means they're the result of PTSD."
-her saying that.
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@Squirrel_Thicc said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350874#Comment_1350874
I was honestly never interested in most characters lore lol.
Tbh the only lore I'm interested in is Doctor's lore. It's just amazing how much they took from the real world to make his lore.
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I'm all about human experimentation in the name of science, so in that regard I'm all in.
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Well it is a genetic disorder after all, some may have their genes/alleles so altered that they can't even reproduce. Technically we were all females in the womb until a certain point where we started to develop into either female or male. Of course something can ######### up during this process and cause a mutation. Either-way, until we have the technology required to literally change bodies/transplant brains, I'm not too keen about that (cause it looks weird and it's kind of an uncanny valley to me). Adding Legendary cosmetics IRL would definitively make things more interesting and make it easier for people to change gender/bodies/whatever they want.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350686#Comment_1350686
Trans men/women just want to be called men/women. Focusing on the DNA structure is incredibly short-sighted due to all the intersex conditions. Yes, I know, those are a tiny minority, but they're a much larger group than trans people. Denying trans people the ability to identify as men/women because of their DNA is also denying intersex people the ability to do the same.
Well, it is technically a mutation. They can call themselves whatever they want cause nobody knows ######### they are.
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I'll ask her then send a screenshot of our convo.
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She hasn't been treated very nicely in her childhood to say the least.. So yeah, that's a recurring problem in today's world sadly.
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I really want to get my gf involved in this now..
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I think getting physically and mentally abused for 20 years is FAR more traumatic than the death of a loved one.
" You're right, she didn't have hallucinations. I could've sworn the devs had added a line about hallucinations along with those "concepts of purification" and the "re-played memories" "
- "Memories that are re-played every night" - Flashbacks aren't specifically hallucinations.
- "concepts of purification" - Delusions aren't hallucinations.
As a guy with a gf with schizophrenia and a few friends with varying degrees of mental instabilities, I can tell you that I'd think about PTSD way sooner than Schizophrenia.
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@DrDeepwound said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350642#Comment_1350642
JK Rowling said men pretending to be women dont have menstruation since they are not females, and it set off the debate whether or not males who think they are females, are actually women or not since they cannot make babies. I have no opinion onj this subject j8ust telling you what she said.
They can mentally be females, but unless they literally transplant their brains into another body, the DNA structure tells us that they're males.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350647#Comment_1350647
The thing is, the LGBT characters are already here. It's not like they're going to create a character from the ground up just to add an LGBT character. They've already created LGBT characters and simply didn't confirm it. All they're going to do is confirm it. This is what's written in their tweet, if you take the time to read it.
which ones? I'm interested.
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Well they DID do some extensive research to do Doctor's background Lore (about MKUltra and all that stuff). So I think that they would've done the same if they really wanted to say the Nurse had schizophrenia.
Depression can both be Nevrotic and Psychotic.
There is literally nothing in her lore indicating she has hallucinations, if you think otherwise please quote the text.
Catatonia was previousely thought to be exclusive to schizophrenia, but recently it has been confirmed that it also appears in bipolar and depressive pathologies as well as PTSD (which is the more likely illness that she has).
The traumatic event you're talking about wasn't as traumatic as the things she saw in the Asylum. And no, the general description fits more PTSD rather than schizophrenia.
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And it would make some really INTERESTING content on Dbdgonewild ;)
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"you said you don’t give a f about the nurses sexuality, but then you said you don’t want any LGBT+ stuff in the game? That is very contradicting. Either you don’t care or you don’t want it."
-True, I do care about it as I don't want an entire character built around the principle of being Gay or whatever. If the character has a rich backstory and some pretty good lore overall with a sprinkle of "and btw he's gay" on top, then cool! I don't mind it at all. But if it's a Neeko situation where the entire character is made to be lesbian/gay, then I do have a problem with that.
"have you considered they add it not because of whiners but because they actually gradually expand the lore in every aspect? I didn’t see that many people that were against the tome backstories though."
- That would actually be awesome imo. I think it will be pretty obvious if they gave in to the whiners or if they actually wanted to expand the universe.
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Please mention said symptoms. And if the devs were going for schizophrenia, I think that they would have actually made it more apparent than whatever you're talking about.
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If you're really a physician that tries to diagnose someone based on 1 SYMPTOM ONLY, then you're either not a physician or you should be fired immediately.
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The diagnosis of schizophrenia? It is fundementally wrong. What's the Pathognomonic symptom that defines this particular diagnosis?
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Until you read the lore 3 times in a row so it's hard-written in your brain, don't come spitting out some bullshit that you don't know anything about. Do some research.
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https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Tome_II_-_Reckoning#David_King:_Manchester_Mash-Up@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350591#Comment_1350591
I already discussed this with him. Nurse and Doctor fit his bill, but he refuses to acknowledge it.
Read the lore, thank you Orion.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350595#Comment_1350595
Well then this whole topic shouldn’t affect you at all.
it does matter for others though, and there were always people that cared for the lore, so let them.
This seems like another one of those "JK Rowling" moments where there's a completely useless piece of info given with no meaning behind it, just to please some whiners that want to see gay stuff everywhere.
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@dastru said:
oh yay i cant wait BHVR to bend the knee and succumb to future posts of furries dont feel represented so lets boycotted it or give me an attack helicopter legendary skin or we will tear you down
Honestly if they add furries, I'll have to mori even more people. ######### furries.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350554#Comment_1350554
I'm good. Want me to give you a crash course on medical scanning equipment developed before the invention of the airplane?
You don't need MRI's to diagnose mental Illnesses in most cases. They're only useful if there's a chance that the symptoms were produced by physical abnormalities in the brain / elsewhere in the body.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350544#Comment_1350544
And how do you know she didn't? MRIs weren't exactly standard in the 19th century.
I don't think schizophrenics go around murdering people because of some delusions. Moreover, delusions is only ONE of the many symptoms found in schizophrenia and MANY other illnesses.
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Want me to give you a crash course on psychology?
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YOU CAN NOT DEVELOP SCHIZOPHRENIA IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE PSYCHOTIC STRUCTURE AFTER entering adulthood. Take some psychology classes PLEASE.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350515#Comment_1350515
Nurse and Doctor have been here for multiple years. You're not mad at anything, you're just trying to manufacture controversy. It's not like you care about representation all of a sudden, which is why decided to pick things that aren't normally included in video games: disabled people and mentally ill people. I've proven that we have had them for a while now, but you just keep pressing the issue instead of admitting that you're wrong.
What in the ######### are you on about? I never said anything about disabled people, I just replied to a comment saying "might as well add disabled characters" saying that I thought it would be funny because of the wheelchair 360' thing.
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@Primalux135 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350483#Comment_1350483
He has somekind of device on the leg to correct posture also hillbilly is laming too want more representation?
I never said I wanted/was against disabled characters to be in the game. I said it was funny because I just imagined a survivor in a whellchair 360' a killer lmao.
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Nurse doesn't have schizophrenia, she has PTSD and delusions.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350495#Comment_1350495
Well, you've had Doctor for a while now, as well as Nurse. Now can we focus on the LGBT #########, or is 3 years of the Doctor and almost 4 years of the Nurse not enough? I'm guessing it matters very little to you since you didn't even notice either of these characters.
I'm actually a hardened Doctor main (trust me I tried nurse once and don't want to play her again after discovering her mechanics). And I do care, I'm just mad that everybody puts their attention towards lgbtq and ignores the world of mental illnesses (that is VERY patronized and opressed). I'm not saying that being Gay is a mental illness (it isn't, even I am into some sissy stuff once in a while), about the Transgender thing; it's true that some people truly identify themselves with another gender due to their brain structure, but there are also people that want to change their gender to "fix" their mental issues (like my gf and some other acquaintances of mine that I helped to understand and better deal with their issues [at least I hope so]).
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350492#Comment_1350492
His mechanic is literally called "Madness", which makes you hallucinate, hear voices, and scream.
True, still hallucinations aren't schizophrenia. They're a symptom that can be caused by physical or emotional distress.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350490#Comment_1350490
You're the ones making it controversial. People who either don't care or support it are not saying anything or showing their support.
I'm not against it, I just want them to go all the way and dive into mental illnesses as well (since it's my field) instead of focusing solely on gays and the lgbt stuff.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350483#Comment_1350483
Did you miss the brace he needs to be able to walk? He might not be wheelchair-bound, but he is disabled.
Never played him, so never noticed. Good detail though!
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350482#Comment_1350482
He tinkered with people's brains to cause schizophrenia and depression, among other things. A schizophrenic friend of mine would probably liken him to her hallucinations, trying to mess with her head.
I don't think he caused depression nor schizophrenia. I read all about MKUltra and this field (both IRL and in his lore). It has literally nothing to do with causing mental illnesses and everything to do with knowledge and torture.
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@Mooks said:
As of now, they didn’t add any LGBT+ char and I noticed no message that explicitly stated they want homo-, bi- and asexual characters but not trans.
They will just add those themes in the backstories/lore of the characters (new and old) and don’t restrict themselves anymore. They didn’t say they will forcefully add one person for every orientation.
Cool, so they actually might go all the way into controversy, can't wait to read the news articles
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Like blizzard did with that horror that is Tracer and that straight jacket floating feet guy
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He's disabled?
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350472#Comment_1350472
Not that those things are related to being trans in any way, but Doctor not good enough for you?
He's not schizophrenic nor depressed. And I don't think he's related to mental illnesses in any way (except the sole fact that he worked in an institute). I was saying that if they choose to go for something controversial, they may as well go all the way.
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@EmpireWinner said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1350472#Comment_1350472
Let's also add a disabled person while we're at it
That would actually be lowkey funny, idk why it made me laugh xD
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Yeah, today's characters seem bland and just copies of others.. They're really losing imagination. And it shouldn't matter if someone is gay in the game or whatever, it has no correlation to the game at all. And even if they would go into that direction and say that X character is gay, then why not make someone schizophrenic or with depression?
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If there's a character that represents this, there should also be a character that represents schizophrenia or depression.
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@Gomolazoli said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1319318#Comment_1319318
And nearly took over the world with superior tactics and the most powerful army ever...Wonder how scarry would they be to you if you lived in Poland in 1939. And creepy pasta is #########. I’d rather have Mr.Tiny Mustache in the game with a frying pan than any of that fnaf like trash.
Yeah, FNAF and Creepypastas are cringe incarnate... Can't believe I was into tha kind of stuff when I was a teenager.. Eitherway, as much as the soviet army was way more cruel than the Germans, we know for fact that some nazis were the absolute worst humanity could offer.
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@Raven014 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1319318#Comment_1319318
At the time they were considered scary. The cartoonish idiots we see in movies/television were only made long after the way, as a way to rub it in that they lost.
Tbh the Soviets were the worst in terms of #########/pillaging/murdering civilians, but we're always talking about the germans because History is written by the Victor.
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Not Mori, that would be too easy. But I do enjoy torturing Claudettes and making their lives miserable. I'm happy to announce that I have almost 100% kill rate on Claudettes in my games, I simply will never let them escape or have any fun whatsoever. ######### Blendettes, they're the worst of the scum, not in levels of toxicity, but by doing absolutely nothing all game long, not helping team mates, not doing gens, not contributing in any way, shape or form, then escaping through hatch.
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Sorry to break it to you, but Blendettes are the scum of the earth (from Survivor and Killer POV). I've had too many instances of Blendettes doing absolutely jack ######### all game and letting their teammates die. I do not tolerate their existence and I take every opportunity I have to make their lives miserable.
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EDIT: There could also be the psychological approach: OCD, a mental illness taken to an extreme, unnervingly evil degree in this case.
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Doctor's movie would be amazing and very graphic. Just imagine a scene where the camera slowly goes into a room and you see doctor workin on some brains?
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Yeah, playing doctor at purple and red ranks is becoming more and more exhausting imo... I've always tried to not use NOED because it's a perk for "bad" killers (as tru3ta1ent says), but now at high ranks, playing without it or without bloodwarden is practically suicidal. hope the doctor's update comes in soon and strong. Can't wait to play a healthy doctor!
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Doctor is far too weak to be in B tier. I'd suggest putting him in low C tier or high D tier. His shocks are way too unpredictable and the survivors have a perk that completely renders his tracking useless. Overall a good concept but horrible execution...