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Why keep killers playing this game at high mmr?

solidhex solidhex
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i came back after i haven't played the game for most of 2025 and honestly, the gen speed is insane. I'm experienced (4000h) and i tried many different perk setups and tactics and honestly, there just isn't a way to 4k anymore. At least not against the survivors i play against. Even if my chases go fast, it's almost impossible to prevent all 5 gens from finishing. All the band-aid perks are gone and i'm not playing Blight or Nurse, so no oppressive s-tier killers here. It's so frustrating and i think about leaving again after 1 week. Meanwhile, i've escaped in most of my solo matches (2v8 is a different story).

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  • runningguy runningguy

    @solidhex said:

    i came back after i haven't played the game for most of 2025 and honestly, the gen speed is insane. I'm experienced (4000h) and i tried many different perk setups and tactics and honestly, there just isn't a way to 4k anymore. At least not against the survivors i play against. Even if my chases go fast, it's almost impossible to prevent all 5 gens from finishing. All the band-aid perks are gone and i'm not playing Blight or Nurse, so no oppressive s-tier killers here. It's so frustrating and i think about leaving again after 1 week. Meanwhile, i've escaped in most of my solo matches (2v8 is a different story).

    1. if you havnt played most of last year you may be out of practice, it happens after a long break.
    2. Are you tunneling?
  • Cassiopeiae Cassiopeiae
    1. How many hours you have is quite irrelevant, there's very good people that barely have a few hundred. Claiming to be good or bad based on how many hours one has or the character they are playing is not accurate at all.
    2. If you came back from a break you won't be playing well.
    3. Gen perks offer little extra speed and require setup, often wasting more time than they save so that's not a problem either.
    4. Are you sure you're tracking gen progress and where people are?
    5. Are you just chasing anyone and then perhaps proxy camping them or tunneling them?

    Even if you think you are in the right it's always best to look inward for more mistakes to get better instead of externalising blame.

  • Dinadin Dinadin

    @solidhex said:

    i came back after i haven't played the game for most of 2025 and honestly, the gen speed is insane. I'm experienced (4000h) and i tried many different perk setups and tactics and honestly, there just isn't a way to 4k anymore. At least not against the survivors i play against. Even if my chases go fast, it's almost impossible to prevent all 5 gens from finishing. All the band-aid perks are gone and i'm not playing Blight or Nurse, so no oppressive s-tier killers here. It's so frustrating and i think about leaving again after 1 week. Meanwhile, i've escaped in most of my solo matches (2v8 is a different story).

    Ill be honest, I cannot understand how people like you are so entitled to get 4ks as killer. The game isnt meant to get 4ks often at all. I completely doubt youre at high MMR or at least youre totally not meant to be at high MMR. It doesnt amtter if you play Trapper or Nurse. If youre a top-notched player you know how to do well, and you obviously dont do. The game itself hasnt changed much in 2025, besides being even more killer-favored in its core game design. Gen speed hasnt changed a bit.

  • solidhex solidhex

    @Cassiopeiae said:

    1. How many hours you have is quite irrelevant, there's very good people that barely have a few hundred. Claiming to be good or bad based on how many hours one has or the character they are playing is not accurate at all.
    2. If you came back from a break you won't be playing well.
    3. Gen perks offer little extra speed and require setup, often wasting more time than they save so that's not a problem either.
    4. Are you sure you're tracking gen progress and where people are?
    5. Are you just chasing anyone and then perhaps proxy camping them or tunneling them?

    Even if you think you are in the right it's always best to look inward for more mistakes to get better instead of externalising blame.

    1. it's definitely not irrelevant. while some are faster and some slower learners, someone with 500h will in 95% of the cases not be as good as someone who has 4000h. My experience has shown me this. At some point it doesn't matter as much (say, 6k vs 8k) because you can only learn so much, but there is a reason most comp teams require you to have a certain amount of hours.
    2. true, but i played every day multiple hours. my chases aren't that bad anymore, it just seems that no matter what i do the gens get done and even if i completely dominate (like in my last game), they still made it to endgame and lose then
    3. well, gen perks are still the most used perks in every tournament. i know this is not "normal dbd" but i'm sure they are good as a class, there is just not that dominant gen perk anymore (like pop years ago, then pain res, or call of brine for a while)
    4. i was trying different things, from 3-gen setups to hard-tunnel someone to just go for the easiest kill
    5. hard tunneling is usually the most effective way because the 3v1 is way easier to control for the killer in any case. stacking hook stages on multiple survivors will not win you games, at some point it has to be a 3v1. that's pretty much common sense in the dbd community
  • ImWinston ImWinston
    • Believe me, after a 1-week break from DBD, when I come back I feel really rusty🤣after a 1-year break, do you expect to always win? Play consistently, train and you'll see that good results will come.
  • solidhex solidhex

    @Dinadin said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/464156/why-keep-killers-playing-this-game-at-high-mmr

    Ill be honest, I cannot understand how people like you are so entitled to get 4ks as killer. The game isnt meant to get 4ks often at all. I completely doubt youre at high MMR or at least youre totally not meant to be at high MMR. It doesnt amtter if you play Trapper or Nurse. If youre a top-notched player you know how to do well, and you obviously dont do. The game itself hasnt changed much in 2025, besides being even more killer-favored in its core game design. Gen speed hasnt changed a bit.

    i play this game since 2020 and i even participated in smaller tournaments (mostly as survivor though). i 4k-ed most of the time when i were at the top of my game 2022-2023, that's why i'm so "entitled" and have high expectations on myself. Well, all of the survs i play against (the non-anon ones) have high amount of hours, some state they play in teams, a lot of them in swf's (according to their friendlist) which i guess isn't uncommon if you play this game regularly so it is to be expected. there is no mmr-reset i think. i think i know how to do well but what worked back then doesn't work as good nowadays. i guess player skill has increased overall (it would make sense). gen speed doesn't have to change if the band-aid perks or items or maps have changed, which can affect gen speed as well. the pallet density has made the game more braindead imo, while you can play around a lot of them it makes the game harder for m1's who already struggle with map pressure/control

  • Rickprado Rickprado

    @solidhex said:

    i came back after i haven't played the game for most of 2025 and honestly, the gen speed is insane. I'm experienced (4000h) and i tried many different perk setups and tactics and honestly, there just isn't a way to 4k anymore. At least not against the survivors i play against. Even if my chases go fast, it's almost impossible to prevent all 5 gens from finishing. All the band-aid perks are gone and i'm not playing Blight or Nurse, so no oppressive s-tier killers here. It's so frustrating and i think about leaving again after 1 week. Meanwhile, i've escaped in most of my solo matches (2v8 is a different story).

    Probably is due to how some people moved from medkits to toolboxes and "genrush" builds recently. I would recommend to use perks like Corruption Intervention to have a better early game and some gen regress perks. I'm avoid playing low tier killer or if i get to play one i make my mind that getting a 2k is probably the best result i will get against a decent team.

  • solidhex solidhex

    @ImWinston said:

    • Believe me, after a 1-week break from DBD, when I come back I feel really rusty🤣after a 1-year break, do you expect to always win? Play consistently, train and you'll see that good results will come.

    thanks, maybe it's really just that, i dunno

  • Junylar Junylar

    At high MMR, you either tunnel or you lose. What killer are you playing? If it's Pig or something like that, then it would be weird to expect anything else. Also, at high MMR the amount of "subtle" cheaters and sweat squads skyrockets, and due to the nature of the game's balance, if a 4man is coordinated enough, there is absolutely nothing you can do as a killer weaker than Ghoul. In tournaments, weak killers compete with hook states, it's almost always 5gens done. So if you want to continue playing someone of Pig tier, you would be better off just sliding down on your MMR a bit.

  • Temak Temak

    @runningguy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/464156/why-keep-killers-playing-this-game-at-high-mmr

    1. if you havnt played most of last year you may be out of practice, it happens after a long break.
    2. Are you tunneling?

    Are you BHVR employee? They like use such words to their game which inclines tunneling, slugging etc. And it depends on killer, did you play Twins?

  • runningguy runningguy

    @Temak said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4056430#Comment_4056430

    Are you BHVR employee? They like use such words to their game which inclines tunneling, slugging etc. And it depends on killer, did you play Twins?

    im just saying if someone is struggling and they are not tunneling then maybe try to tunnel. worked for me, repeatedly get experienced swf teams multiple times a night, i was losing a lot too until i started tunneling. Now its pretty balanced. Obviously if the killer is twins then slugging is probably the way to go but for most killers tunneling is more effective.

  • Pulsar Pulsar

    Most likely rust, doesn't really matter how good you were, time dulls all our senses.

    Good news is that is that it comes back fast.

  • brewingtea brewingtea

    You haven't played in a year, but you're sure you're "high mmr"?????

  • Nazzzak Nazzzak

    I'm rusty after a few weeks break, so I imagine you would be after pretty much a whole year

  • diablo916 diablo916

    @solidhex said:

    i came back after i haven't played the game for most of 2025 and honestly, the gen speed is insane. I'm experienced (4000h) and i tried many different perk setups and tactics and honestly, there just isn't a way to 4k anymore. At least not against the survivors i play against. Even if my chases go fast, it's almost impossible to prevent all 5 gens from finishing. All the band-aid perks are gone and i'm not playing Blight or Nurse, so no oppressive s-tier killers here. It's so frustrating and i think about leaving again after 1 week. Meanwhile, i've escaped in most of my solo matches (2v8 is a different story).

    With big licensed characters comes big bad ideas to keep the lights on at BHVR. They have to keep the new players flowing in, buying survivor cosmetics and then leaving. Ruins the game for the vets but it garauntees survivor casuals can escape no matter how bad they are. Meanwhile veteran survivirs get to play bully simulator forever

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