Why can't nurse be stunned while recovering in fatigue?

As the title says, this has been what I assume is a bug for the longest time, is this intentional? You can't use head on against her or pallets while she is recovering, I feel she'd maybe be a bit funner to play against if she could

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  • Because then they are being penalised twice, you can stun her immediately after fatigue still, which is even worse. It just isn't easy to do.

  • @MaTtRoSiTy said:

    Because then they are being penalised twice, you can stun her immediately after fatigue still, which is even worse. It just isn't easy to do.

    Other killers lack the same stun protection during their power cooldowns and thus can be penalised twice though.

  • @MaTtRoSiTy said:

    Because then they are being penalised twice, you can stun her immediately after fatigue still, which is even worse. It just isn't easy to do.

    But why do I get exhausted when I use Head on then but she doesnt get stunned, it seems hardly intentional

    Even if it was allowed to be done earlier, it would hardly harm her, she is already one of the strongest killers in the game, giving you a way to stop her recklessly lunging or fatigueing through pallets would be nice.

    She of all killers could use some more interaction with her, especially with the new "Fragile Pallets" if you use one of these too soon on her you've wasted a hard to earn resource AND she can get a free hit.

  • Let them first fix the fact that she can teleport back due to server bugs or a new engine, this is already a critical bug that makes her not so much dependent on skill as on randomness

  • It's how the game is coded and it's not Nurse that is special in this regard. Killer's cannot be double stun and cannot be stun in animation.

    What happens when you DS a killer and immediately hit them with a pallet? The pallet pushes them back without stunning them.

  • @Dem34888 said:

    Let them first fix the fact that she can teleport back due to server bugs or a new engine, this is already a critical bug that makes her not so much dependent on skill as on randomness

    explain what you mean by this?

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  • @Rokku_Rorru said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962185#Comment_3962185

    But why do I get exhausted when I use Head on then but she doesnt get stunned, it seems hardly intentional

    Even if it was allowed to be done earlier, it would hardly harm her, she is already one of the strongest killers in the game, giving you a way to stop her recklessly lunging or fatigueing through pallets would be nice.

    She of all killers could use some more interaction with her, especially with the new "Fragile Pallets" if you use one of these too soon on her you've wasted a hard to earn resource AND she can get a free hit.

    That is with Head On not the killer.

    Are we still trying to stun Nurse with pallets? How many times do you need to be hit before you learn that's not the play. Treate her like any other killer that can hit over pallets. There are many killers that can do that now. Predrop and force them to blink when you're out of sight.

  • @Mr_K said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962243#Comment_3962243

    That is with Head On not the killer.

    Are we still trying to stun Nurse with pallets? How many times do you need to be hit before you learn that's not the play. Treate her like any other killer that can hit over pallets. There are many killers that can do that now. Predrop and force them to blink when you're out of sight.

    She should be able to be stunned, who would even say that, that's saying don't use the tools at your disposal.

    Listen to yourself. Legion can be stunned mid recovery, Ghoul even can, so can Wesker.

    Such lack of awareness is frustrating lol

  • @Rokku_Rorru said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962324#Comment_3962324

    She should be able to be stunned, who would even say that, that's saying don't use the tools at your disposal.

    Listen to yourself.

    Fatigue is an animation lock. Like every other killer you cannot stun a killer in animation.

    Head On exhausting a survivor when the stun did not work is the fault of the perk mechanic not the killer you tried to stun. The same thing would happen if you mis-timed a DS into Head-On combo with any other killer.

  • @Rokku_Rorru said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962324#Comment_3962324

    She should be able to be stunned, who would even say that, that's saying don't use the tools at your disposal.

    Listen to yourself. Legion can be stunned mid recovery, Ghoul even can, so can Wesker.

    Such lack of awareness is frustrating lol

    It is actually foolish to want this to begin with. You want to give a strong killer the ability to cancel out one of her forced cooldowns with a quick stun?

  • @Mr_K said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962327#Comment_3962327

    It is actually foolish to want this to begin with. You want to give a strong killer the ability to cancel out one of her forced cooldowns with a quick stun?

    Who says I'm using it early, I want to be able to use a locker with my exhaustion to evade her and buy more time in chase against her with what I have available to me.

    It's not my fault you have no awareness of the survivor's perspective.

    Also again it's an animation lock, like Legion's fatigue state, they don't get special treatment, again.

    Also Head On DS hasn't been doable ever since 5 seconds was reduced, another thing you are unaware of lmao

  • @PolarBear said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962185#Comment_3962185

    Other killers lack the same stun protection during their power cooldowns and thus can be penalised twice though.

    When though? What killer locked in animation can be stunned while locked in an animation?

    This doesn't work for the same reason you cant pallet save if you drop the pallet too early while the killer is in the pick up animation. I know people don't like this fact but downvoting me doesn't make me wrong.

  • @MaTtRoSiTy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962187#Comment_3962187

    When though? What killer locked in animation can be stunned while locked in an animation?

    This doesn't work for the same reason you cant pallet save if you drop the pallet too early while the killer is in the pick up animation. I know people don't like this fact but downvoting me doesn't make me wrong.

    Legion Fatigue, exact same thing

    Blight Fatigue, exact same thing

  • @Rokku_Rorru said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962334#Comment_3962334

    Who says I'm using it early, I want to be able to use a locker with my exhaustion to evade her and buy more time in chase against her with what I have available to me.

    It's not my fault you have no awareness of the survivor's perspective.

    You are clearly using it early! Nurse is not immune to Head On. You tried hitting her while in animation. You got exhaustion because BHVR's spaghetti code doesn't check if the stun occured or not.

  • @Rokku_Rorru said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962338#Comment_3962338

    Legion Fatigue, exact same thing

    Blight Fatigue, exact same thing

    But you cant stun them in that second the animation plays and the window is only longer with Nurse because her fatigue animation is quite long

  • Should 100% should beable to get stunned during fatigue.

    Is so silly that you can bait a head on to a free hit with it. Or a pallet at the small end of her fatigue, resulting in you just getting 1 blink tapped after it.

    You had to throw the pallet otherwise blink hit, but you also get hit after the fact lol

  • @Mr_K said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962337#Comment_3962337

    You are clearly using it early! Nurse is not immune to Head On. You tried hitting her while in animation. You got exhaustion because BHVR's spaghetti code doesn't check if the stun occured or not.

    See this is why I find you frustrating, you're speaking with only your perspective coz you're not trying to understand in the first place, I'm using it toward the end of her animation coz I'm having to have head on charge when she misses her blink. I'm not using it at the end of it

    I'm not on about I'm using it perfectly, not to mention latency plays into this.

  • @MaTtRoSiTy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962340#Comment_3962340

    But you cant stun them in that second the animation plays and the window is only longer with Nurse because her fatigue animation is quite long

    Omg you literally can LMAO that's why Legions use End fury

  • @Rokku_Rorru said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962342#Comment_3962342

    See this is why I find you frustrating, you're speaking with only your perspective coz you're not trying to understand in the first place, I'm using it toward the end of her animation coz I'm having to have head on charge when she misses her blink. I'm not using it at the end of it

    I'm not on about I'm using it perfectly, not to mention latency plays into this.

    Your headline say fatigue but now you are saying not during fatigue. Sorry for taking things at face value.

    Your explaination is still confusing could you provide a play by play or something where I can tell when you are trying the stun?

  • there's no valid reason she shouldnt be, yeah.

  • @Mr_K said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962347#Comment_3962347

    Your headline say fatigue but now you are saying not during fatigue. Sorry for taking things at face value.

    Your explaination is still confusing could you provide a play by play or something where I can tell when you are trying the stun?

    Yes, I'm hitting her DURING Fatigue, it's not confusing at all, you're defending it DURING fatigue, I'm talking about how she should DURING.

    You randomly changed it to an assumption that I was hitting it after? If I was, would I have made this thread? Hello?

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  • @Mr_K said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962243#Comment_3962243

    That is with Head On not the killer.

    Are we still trying to stun Nurse with pallets? How many times do you need to be hit before you learn that's not the play. Treate her like any other killer that can hit over pallets. There are many killers that can do that now. Predrop and force them to blink when you're out of sight.

    Or you could do what I did and stun her with a perfectly timed Flashbang during her Blink and crash the entire game

  • @Rokku_Rorru said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962350#Comment_3962350

    Yes, I'm hitting her DURING Fatigue, it's not confusing at all, you're defending it DURING fatigue, I'm talking about how she should DURING.

    You randomly changed it to an assumption that I was hitting it after? If I was, would I have made this thread? Hello?

    Well then I don't understand why you are saying I'm being killer bias (have no perspective) when I'm telling you facts of the game mechanics.

    You just want a special case for Nurse. I've already pointed out this is a foolish request because stunning a Nurse out of fatigue could then be reduced with perks. You are basically giving double tap opportunity.

    Yes, I've seen you listing other killers but @MaTtRoSiTy has already refute that.

  • @UnicornMedal said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962324#Comment_3962324

    Or you could do what I did and stun her with a perfectly timed Flashbang during her Blink and crash the entire game

    ez

  • @Mr_K said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962358#Comment_3962358

    Well then I don't understand why you are saying I'm being killer bias (have no perspective) when I'm telling you facts of the game mechanics.

    You just want a special case for Nurse. I've already pointed out this is a foolish request because stunning a Nurse out of fatigue could then be reduced with perks. You are basically giving double tap opportunity.

    Yes, I've seen you listing other killers but @MaTtRoSiTy has already refute that.

    Because casual players exist too? Who said it has anything to do with Killer bias, I'm on about a casual survivor playing is going to hit her while fatigued, which I will admit I didn't state that specifically. I've exhausted all dialogue with you it seems so I'm done here, you disagree I get it.

    Also the nurse rubberband bug should absoloutley be fixed too, she just seems to be really neglected in general where she has issues playing as and against her rn.

    I've heard stuff that she has both range addons too baseline or something? But I have no idea if that is true.

  • @Rokku_Rorru said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962363#Comment_3962363

    Because casual players exist too? Who said it has anything to do with Killer bias, I'm on about a casual survivor playing is going to hit her while fatigued, which I will admit I didn't state that specifically. I've exhausted all dialogue with you it seems so I'm done here, you disagree I get it.

    Also the nurse rubberband bug should absoloutley be fixed too, she just seems to be really neglected in general where she has issues playing as and against her rn.

    I've heard stuff that she has both range addons too baseline or something? But I have no idea if that is true.

    killer bias came from:

    you're speaking with only your perspective coz you're not trying to understand in the first place,

    Which I took to mean Killer perspective instead of casual vs "no life" perspective which you just clarified.

    Idk where you heard her distance addons were made basekit because that is very not true. Her base blink distance has always been 0.1s charge = 1 meter travel. 1st blink 20m, 2nd blink 10m. You can squeeze a little more from the 2nd with perfect timing.

    At least we can end on an agreement. Her rubberbanding with higher pings needs work. I will also add her fatigue animation desync needs fixing but getting BHVR to fix bugs is like pulling teeth.

  • her fatigue is already painful enough :(

  • @Mr_K said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962368#Comment_3962368

    killer bias came from:

    you're speaking with only your perspective coz you're not trying to understand in the first place,

    Which I took to mean Killer perspective instead of casual vs "no life" perspective which you just clarified.

    Idk where you heard her distance addons were made basekit because that is very not true. Her base blink distance has always been 0.1s charge = 1 meter travel. 1st blink 20m, 2nd blink 10m. You can squeeze a little more from the 2nd with perfect timing.

    At least we can end on an agreement. Her rubberbanding with higher pings needs work. I will also add her fatigue animation desync needs fixing but getting BHVR to fix bugs is like pulling teeth.

    Why are you putting words in my mouth, are you okay? I didn't say you had no life either lol

    And I'm saying I heard about it can you read, I said IDK if its true, dear me

  • @Rokku_Rorru said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962391#Comment_3962391

    Why are you putting words in my mouth, are you okay? I didn't say you had no life either lol

    And I'm saying I heard about it can you read, I said IDK if its true, dear me

    "No life" is a joke. I'm not trying to insult you here. I'm being light hearted.

  • @Mr_K said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962407#Comment_3962407

    "No life" is a joke. I'm not trying to insult you here. I'm being light hearted.

    I apologise, I misunderstood.

  • It's intentional, she can't be stunned during fatigue.

    I don't agree with that decision though

  • @sizzlingmario4 said:

    It's intentional, she can't be stunned during fatigue.

    I don't agree with that decision though

    I don't either. if someone was brave enough to pallet stun a Nurse, they should get a payoff for it. I wish bhvr would go back on removing her double stun

  • @100PercentBPMain said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962440#Comment_3962440

    I don't either. if someone was brave enough to pallet stun a Nurse, they should get a payoff for it. I wish bhvr would go back on removing her double stun

    if someone was dumb enough to pallet stun a Nurse, they should get hit for it.

    Ftfy

  • @Mr_K said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962530#Comment_3962530

    if someone was dumb enough to pallet stun a Nurse, they should get hit for it.

    Ftfy

    yeah, that's me. I'm dumb enough to try it. almost 10/10 I mess it up and die.

    I've seen people do it to me tho, and I couldn't help but be impressed.

  • @100PercentBPMain said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3962440#Comment_3962440

    I don't either. if someone was brave enough to pallet stun a Nurse, they should get a payoff for it. I wish bhvr would go back on removing her double stun

    Just an FYI, in the window after the blink where she can swing or charge another blink, she is vulnerable to stuns.

    Getting a pallet stun while in danger of being hit has far more merit than stunning while she cannot do anything to you.