I think auric cell expiration feature is insane

I mean this thing literally costs money, how can it be vanish to nothingness like that

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  • Auric cells expire? I've never heard of this before.

    Looks like this is only a thing in japan where your auric cells expire after 6 months

  • @OrangeBear said:

    Auric cells expire? I've never heard of this before.

    Looks like this is only a thing in japan where your auric cells expire after 6 months

    Well, it's even more of an insanity now, because somehow this is regional thing

  • What?

    The paid currency expires? Why the hell would this feature exist?

    I fully support your take, this is ridiculous. Gives me even less reasons to buy auric cells.

  • Huh? Auric cells expire? That’s crazy.

  • @OnryosTapeRentals said:

    Huh? Auric cells expire? That’s crazy.

    Yeah, I've literally never seen a game where in game currency that costs money expires like that, and it's really ridiculous it doesn't even lasts a year

  • Unfortunately there is nothing we're able to do about this, the laws in Japan are very strict with regards to virtual currency and the expiration date of the Auric Cells in that region is in-line with those laws.

  • What even is this thread??? Why is no one asking for references and sources?

    @Neaxolotl said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3756785#Comment_3756785

    Yeah, I've literally never seen a game where in game currency that costs money expires like that, and it's really ridiculous it doesn't even lasts a year

    Could you please provide a reference to what you are talking about???

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    First results that come up are from Bethesda, lets have a look:

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    So its local laws.

    image.png

    So what is this thread even supposed to be, You want bHVR to break japanese law?

  • @Mandy said:

    Unfortunately there is nothing we're able to do about this, the laws in Japan are very strict with regards to virtual currency and the expiration date of the Auric Cells in that region is in-line with those laws.

    Curses, you were faster than I could google.

  • I'll give you a +1 for the effort though 👍️

  • Aww you are the sweetest.

  • @Mandy said:

    Unfortunately there is nothing we're able to do about this, the laws in Japan are very strict with regards to virtual currency and the expiration date of the Auric Cells in that region is in-line with those laws.

    …and why is literally any other games have no such restriction within in game currency

    I don't really understand, I heard a speculation about BHVR is misunderstanding cryptocurrency law and in game currency law or something, I wishes for another internal review about that law or something

  • @Neaxolotl said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3756808#Comment_3756808

    …and why is literally any other games have no such restriction within in game currency

    I don't really understand, I heard a speculation about BHVR is misunderstanding cryptocurrency law and in game currency law or something, I wishes for another internal review about that law or something

    please refer to what Emeal linked, it shows the other games that have to abide by this law. There is nothing we can do on the matter - it's Japanese law.

  • in fairness, I didn't have to google as I am aware of the information, so that saved time lol

  • @Mandy said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3756830#Comment_3756830

    please refer to what Emeal linked, it shows the other games that have to abide by this law. There is nothing we can do on the matter - it's Japanese law.

    I mean, I've googled about it and it doesn't seems to be necessarily like this, just that it could be a lot simpler with 6 months expiration date

    I'm not exactly sure since I am not an expert, but to me it seems like this feature is there to avoid having an obligation to bank like half of the paid currency worth money to japanese administration (as which will be necessary past 6 months), it's kinda sad when a law that exists to protect people from losing paid things ends up working as a shredder to that exact things

    companies from different country might have many difficulty to perform such process, I guess

  • I would say if MY COUNTRY had such laws, I would hope the game would tell me days before something like;

    "Listen here buddy, we are legally obligated to remove your Auric Cells due to Japanese Law, your expiration date is [DATE HERE]"

    I mean I know people dont like pop ups and being reminded, but I think its important and idd like to get reminded.

  • I wish I had an unlimited expiration date rift activator which is purchasable for same price at the very least, so I don't feel like "buy it and play like a job indefinitely, or else you'll lose out the in game currency"

    This fact really stops me from buying rifts to be honest

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    This is really annoying and regardless of how you get it, the currency will be removed after a certain period of time.

  • @Mandy said:

    Unfortunately there is nothing we're able to do about this, the laws in Japan are very strict with regards to virtual currency and the expiration date of the Auric Cells in that region is in-line with those laws.

    Do Auric Cells expire for everyone or is it just for players residing in Japan?

  • I think I understand why Japan made this law. It's to prevent or mitigate people from spending money to virtual currencies. The expiration date encourages people from Japan to save their money from in-app or in-game currencies, especially those who are more prone to impulsive buying but I think that last reasoning may sound counter-intuitive since it doesn't completely teach them to use their money in the first place since they most likely already spent a bunch of virtual currencies. And why don't they just ban virtual currencies outright if they don't want their people to spend money in the first place? Who knows. I'm not a politician lol.

    I get where the law is coming from but does it really work?

    I guess the proof is in this comment?

    @Neaxolotl said:

    I wish I had an unlimited expiration date rift activator which is purchasable for same price at the very least, so I don't feel like "buy it and play like a job indefinitely, or else you'll lose out the in game currency"

    This fact really stops me from buying rifts to be honest

    What Emeal and Mandy said is true.

    @Emeal said:

    https://c.tenor.com/kEJ7XCJ_HakAAAAd/tenor.gif

    First results that come up are from Bethesda, lets have a look:

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/SAE8Q5ZEU5UF/image.png

    So its local laws.

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/JEB9YLCALHYQ/image.png

    So what is this thread even supposed to be, You want bHVR to break japanese law?

    @Mandy said:

    Unfortunately there is nothing we're able to do about this, the laws in Japan are very strict with regards to virtual currency and the expiration date of the Auric Cells in that region is in-line with those laws.

  • @Kjøttkaker said:

    I think I understand why Japan made this law. It's to prevent or mitigate people from spending money to virtual currencies. The expiration date encourages people from Japan to save their money from in-app or in-game currencies, especially those who are more prone to impulsive buying but I think that last reasoning may sound counter-intuitive since it doesn't completely teach them to use their money in the first place since they most likely already spent a bunch of virtual currencies. And why don't they just ban virtual currencies outright if they don't want their people to spend money in the first place? Who knows. I'm not a politician lol.

    I get where the law is coming from but does it really work?

    I guess the proof is in this comment?

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3756870#Comment_3756870

    What Emeal and Mandy said is true.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3756812#Comment_3756812

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3756808#Comment_3756808

    Sorry but that doesn't seems to be the case for me, it is not a law to stop virtual currency to exist, bur rather protect people from losing all of it before they can use it

    All I saw was "a company must keep half the virtual currency worth of real money in case they goes bankrupt, but since this only came in after 6 months they can also circumvent this law by giving an expiration date of 6 months"

    Basically as long as they don't mind extra work and having less money to use they have no problem in not having expiration date, just that some companies don't like it (or simply couldn't do such things idk)

    And proof of this is majority of gacha games, online games or anything alike has virtual currency with no expiration date without any problem at all

    And I highly doubt the rift key will be considered "virtual currency" in any way too

  • @MrKrabsAckAckAck said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3756808#Comment_3756808

    Do Auric Cells expire for everyone or is it just for players residing in Japan?

    It seems like its JUST Japan players, the rest of the world does not have such laws.

  • @Mandy said:

    Unfortunately there is nothing we're able to do about this, the laws in Japan are very strict with regards to virtual currency and the expiration date of the Auric Cells in that region is in-line with those laws.

    That is insane tbh. But I see how dbd can't really do anything about that.

    Could those AC's be turned into a huge amount of Irisident coins on the expiration date instead?

    But 6 months is a long time. And people don't just by AC's just to have it. It is usually for a character or battle pass, or cosmetics.

    But knowing they have 6 months on them to buy something. It isn't really a problem?

    But does this effect when you complete the battlepass, and get the ac's back?

  • @Nightram said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3756808#Comment_3756808

    That is insane tbh. But I see how dbd can't really do anything about that.

    Could those AC's be turned into a huge amount of Irisident coins on the expiration date instead?

    But 6 months is a long time. And people don't just by AC's just to have it. It is usually for a character or battle pass, or cosmetics.

    But knowing they have 6 months on them to buy something. It isn't really a problem?

    But does this effect when you complete the battlepass, and get the ac's back?

    It does affect in a way where you have to at least complete a battlepass every 6 months, which really sucks for an effort it takes

  • @Neaxolotl said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3757836#Comment_3757836

    It does affect in a way where you have to at least complete a battlepass every 6 months, which really sucks for an effort it takes

    Playing actively, it is piece of cake doing that tbh. Not much to stress about.

  • @Nightram said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3757841#Comment_3757841

    Playing actively, it is piece of cake doing that tbh. Not much to stress about.

    It depends on the way you play and time you can have, definitely not "piece of cake" for sure