Why Buff The Onryó?
unnecessary changes and disappointed how Devs made her powerful. She was already okay to play and now y’all ruined to play against her
unnecessary changes and disappointed how Devs made her powerful. She was already okay to play and now y’all ruined to play against her
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Probably because her kill rates were far from Ok.
May i suggest you always keep a tape on you?
Her killrates have been high since even before the rework because people are so bad they will die even to meme killers like what she was before. However I do think she was a bad killer before and they made her better, just correcting you, she has always had a high killrate.
Before her rework she was one of the highest kill rate killers even in high MMR, I wouldn't really use kill rates as evidence as to why she needed a buff :p
I don‘t like playing here anymore, the fast teleport before was so nice and I hate to be forced to condemned someone. She is stronger, but not in a fun way to play.
And were did i say that they were low? I only said that they were far from ok.
See above ;)
And what exactly did you mean with far from ok in that case?
OPs statement was that she was Ok to play.
I said the kill rates were far from Ok. She received a rework, because the kill rates were inconsistent. We had a few streamers that only killed with condemnation and normal players that could never condemn. A killer who´s power revolves about condemnation should have a consistent way to apply that power.
I would have loved it if they focusessed more on her antiloop, in the sense of being invisible, not the not getting stunned she has right now. But I think the passive slowdown from the teleport is alright, I mean just grab a tape and you are fine... Cannot understand how people still don't do that...
she was not okay before she was arguably the weakest killer in the game, her only redeeming quality being her map mobility.
You can completely counter her power by just grabbing a tape. grab a tape.
It's not always that straight forward since you can only grab a tape from a tv that's on.
Because you could completely avoid the minigame associated with her. And due to this she was almost non-existent in matches.
Her power is meant to be a slow-down, not a super quick build up to an easy 4k.
Most powers are meant to slow or find survivors. Her power is currently out of control.
she is fine. Her previous state however was not fine.
She is a bit much at the moment but I don't think that she was unwarranted in getting a buff since her chase game and overall kit were lacking compared to other killers
her power isnt out of control. you can grab a tape, hold onto it, and literally put it in any tv. if you want to see "out of control" then look at mft. onryo is a far (FAR) example of "out of control."
Grab a tape. It will protect you from the teleport condemnation.
Yes. she had a high kill rate before. Now its higher i guess????
#bringbackSadako
Agree. Pre-rework Sadako was way better. Maybe not stronger, but more fun to play.
The rework killed my enjoyment for her.
#bringbackSadako
disagree.
absolutely agree
"disappointed how devs made her powerful".
So that's how I died because I got full condemn stacks because you grab a tape to protect your self.
grab one at the start of the match, at any other time you can see nearby TVs.
how. it doesn't go up progressively anymore and you can put it in any tv at anytime.
she was literally weak and not played much besides at low mmr or very rare cases the condemned play style
its the average survivor. literally just said he wants her weak
I died because I cant find a turned on TV. Because they grab a tape to protect themselves from getting stacks.
it doesn't have to be turned on. thats your fault
Doesnt have to be a turned on TV but any TV?
I don´t know how you died, but as long as you carry the tape, the condemnation meter won´t fill from teleports. Hits are a different story, but really no issue if you occasionally bring a tape to a tv.
yes. it can be any tv turned on or not
I really don´t think her kill rate is high against decent survivors.
there is I believe 2 addons (might be wrong but I know for a fact there is one) that makes it so you have to take it to a certain tv. thats more of an addon issue than onryo issue.
You are correct, just that it is only addon that has this effect.
i played her since release. She was weak in unexperiencced hands.
I condemmned people without iri tape or ring drawing. She was a fun and interactive killer with a strategic skill cieling. Now shes strong but all the fun has been drained out of her.
we dont know that.
I liked old Sadako way more. I miss playing her.
I miss playing Original Freddy. Its just the design choices the devs make.
Totally agree with you, I had a lot of fun playing her, wasn't bothered about winning, using rancor at the end of game to kill someone was brilliant.
Didn't like the update they'd done, not played her since except a few goes to try out the change, was gonna p100 her too, not anymore...
Agree. But that does not mean, that i have to agree with these choices.
so you're not playing her anymore simply because Shes strong
No I'm guessing because she's strong without any required skill to be strong. Why the hell does a killer deserve to get to outright kill survivors for just teleporting which takes no brain or skill to do? In the matches I played against her, she teleported so much that even if I had a tape, I ended up running into her as she popped out of the TVs and got hit for major condemned buildup. It's not hard with perks like Discordance and others that warn where survivors are to keep teleporting to areas where there are survivors so she ends up running into them as she emerges from TVs.
On maps like Gideon or Midwich, it's disgusting and impossible because survivors are fighting amongst themselves to find tapes and/or TVs and this game was made for survivors to work as a team like the reasoning given behind the medkit and other healing nerfs, not against each other, so her rework is anti-DBD's objectives. That is not the case with her anymore and it's BS. At least tombstone Myers has to fully drain his stalk of 3 survivors and a good portion of the 4th to be able to kill which requires actually walking the map down and finding all 4 survivors (if just one eludes him for an entire match, he will be unable to get to tier 3 with the Judith's tombstone add-on anyway and won't kill anyone unless he bothered hooking them). Plus for Myers, it's not a basekit thing that's built into him but requires an iri add-on. If they wanted to do this with her, they should've done it by turning one of her iri add-ons into a condemned buildup by teleport add-on as crappy as that still would've been. But now she has that as basekit PLUS has the benefit of the previous effects of her iri add-ons. How the hell is that fair?
Instead they made this change and didn't even do something like make TV auras be visible map wide at all times, whether a player has a tape in their possession or not, which would make it more tolerable. Though the amount of gen slowdown by doing the tapes so often would still be too much when you consider one of her perks regresses gens by 200% (and I'm not even bringing up Merciless Storm)!!! I don't know if she has any teleport cooldown (it's BS if she doesn't) but if she does, whatever it is is not enough, especially now and is an insult to Freddy players who have a big cooldown and can only teleport to gens that are not finished. His teleport game is dead in the endgame unlike hers.
Currently I feel the same with Trapper. Maps used to be full of grass, titles are more simple. Yes he had only 5-6 traps, but I know exactly where to put traps, either in titles or connection path between titles, and all of them are useful and effective.
Now he has 10 traps and I dont know where is set traps anymore, whats the points of having too many traps only to get disarmed because no grass covering them.
I dont even remember Toba map layout yet, then Alien map came out and without grass, then they change map layout of 2 Coolwind farm maps, then they add another 4-5 maps of MacMillan...4 Gens completed just because I wandering around dont know where to put traps and not even finish to put 10 traps.
Agree.
At least Trapper still has Badham preschool and dead dawg saloon.
Badham still has old grass textures and dead dawg has solid grass in general.
She is still Tier G after the rework. She is rather worse than before in terms of mobility in defense of gen and hooks.
Even in competitive DbD tournaments she is treated as a non character pick. The only way I can think of to make her any weaker is to make her unable to hurt survivors.
True lol. Literally she went from D tier to like a high B I have no idea why this is bad.
from these people's logic "she now requires no skill and is boring"
yes. you can put tape in any TV. the only time you cannot put a tape in any television is when she has iri-tape.